John Lennon was a hippy. Being with an Asian girl helped to promote his image.
We were bombing the shit out of that side of the world in his time.
How would it look if he's preaching world peace and banging hot little groupies all day long.
And who's to say he wasn't anyway. It just probably wasn't publicized.
I do agree with you though. He could have done much better Yoko.
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09-22-2011 08:14 AM
Kish
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I never understood Lennon's thing for Yoko. Damn, that bitch was ugly.
I'm glad we have threads like this every once in a while. Sometimes it's rough being single all the time but I start to appreciate it when I see these pictures.
09-22-2011 11:01 AM
Parlay44
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(09-22-2011 11:01 AM)CupCake Wrote: I never understood Lennon's thing for Yoko. Damn, that bitch was ugly.
I'm glad we have threads like this every once in a while. Sometimes it's rough being single all the time but I start to appreciate it when I see these pictures.
I hear ya. There's always the question of dating down for the steady ass or keep trying to get a better girl. I vote for the later. I won't be seen sporting a girl I'm not into in public or my social circle.
I think the answer is to keep the average girls around for fuck buddies.
It's not a bad thing to be single.
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09-22-2011 11:08 AM
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Most people have this unwritten assumption that guys bang the girls they deserve. Given their game, looks, money, style and so on, they will land X quality of woman. The reality is, the more opportunity you have to casually meet attractive women, the greater your quality and quantity of women. Plus, more exposure to attractive women will enhance your game at a greater rate. I think this is one of the most under rated aspects of the game. We all acknowledge it for bartenders and bouncers, but then ignore it for everyone else. It matters no matter who you are.
Take the same man, and imagine him in two separate career trajectories: construction manager and fashion buyer. Is there seriously any doubt that the latter will pull more and hotter chicks? Even with half the bankroll, I'd pick the fashion guy. Even if both got to meet the same number of attractive women, the fashion guy would be doing more warm approaches. I can easily imagine him consistently scoring women rating a point or more than his alter ego does.
I know this whole exercise was based on looks. But in general, whether 'he can do better,' how well he can do, is extremely dependent on his circumstances.
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09-22-2011 11:26 AM
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(09-22-2011 01:20 AM)speakeasy Wrote: Speaking of them, John Lennon at the peak of his career could've slept with starlets every night, yet he choose Yoko.
Your Dream Girl is my drunken one night stand and my dream girl is your average fuck & chuck..(rating scales are useless)
At the end of the day its all about happiness and who makes you happy. (Not impressing other men)
Does anyone really care if another dude is settling for a girl you don't find attractive ? This kind of behavior is feminine. Not a good look for a man.
I'll never understand why a group of intelligent guys are amused by these kinds of threads.
09-22-2011 03:56 PM
Nonpareil
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(09-22-2011 01:20 AM)speakeasy Wrote: Speaking of them, John Lennon at the peak of his career could've slept with starlets every night, yet he choose Yoko.
Your Dream Girl is my drunken one night stand and my dream girl is your average fuck & chuck..(rating scales are useless)
I'll never understand why a group of intelligent guys are amused by these kinds of threads.
Yet here you are...as for the 1-10 scale, all relativity and personal tastes fall between the 4 and 7 levels of the scale; almost all guys agree which girls are hideously ugly and which girls are ridiculously attractive.
Your 5 could be my 7 and my 4 could be your 6, but I really doubt that your 9 is anything less than my 8 or your 2 is anything more than my 3.
Watch that movie to see two things;
1) The nauseating depths of John Lennon's betatude. I'm not let down because he quite clearly settled for Yoko (let's not avoid the fact that he probably got more pussy than God before he met her), I'm let down by how much of a deluded pussy he became. 'World Peace' looks good on a bumper sticker; too bad it's impossible from both an economical and a psychological standpoint.
2) How pathetically uncool and Stalinesque the Nixon presidency was. Entire industries are built around maximizing your gains (be they pussy, money, prospects or status) by making you appear cooler than you are...and the reason John Lennon is a hero today and Nixon is a criminal today is because one was much cooler than the other (well that and Watergate...but if Nixon was as cool as Kennedy he could have recovered from it).
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09-22-2011 05:02 PM
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(09-22-2011 11:01 AM)CupCake Wrote: I never understood Lennon's thing for Yoko. Damn, that bitch was ugly.
I'm glad we have threads like this every once in a while. Sometimes it's rough being single all the time but I start to appreciate it when I see these pictures.
Yoko gamed Lennon; she turned the tables.
She demonstrated high value by being the avant garde artist he really wanted to be, but never really could.
She also didn't automatically sleep with him like all the other women he could have had.
The lyrics of "Norwegian Wood" -- a song about his first meeting with Yoko -- defines how the Alpha guy was turned into a Beta by the Alpha babe.
I once had a girl, or should I say, she once had me...
She showed me her room, isn't it good, norwegian wood?
She asked me to stay and she told me to sit anywhere,
So I looked around and I noticed there wasn't a chair.
I sat on a rug, biding my time, drinking her wine
We talked until two and then she said, "It's time for bed"
She told me she worked in the morning and started to laugh.
I told her I didn't and crawled off to sleep in the bath
And when I awoke, I was alone, this bird had flown
So I lit a fire, isn't it good, norwegian wood.
The song Norwegian Wood is a song Lennon wrote whilst on holiday with his wife at the time Cynthia in the Swiss Alps, it alluded to an affair he was having (not with any particular women as he was having many) and had nothing to do with Yoko Ono.
09-22-2011 06:19 PM
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(09-22-2011 05:02 PM)Nonpareil Wrote: as for the 1-10 scale, all relativity and personal tastes fall between the 4 and 7 levels of the scale; almost all guys agree which girls are hideously ugly and which girls are ridiculously attractive.
Your 5 could be my 7 and my 4 could be your 6, but I really doubt that your 9 is anything less than my 8 or your 2 is anything more than my 3.
How about...
- Hot enough to be my girl
- I'd fuck her
- Not my type
09-22-2011 06:19 PM
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(09-22-2011 01:20 AM)speakeasy Wrote: Speaking of them, John Lennon at the peak of his career could've slept with starlets every night, yet he choose Yoko.
Your Dream Girl is my drunken one night stand and my dream girl is your average fuck & chuck..(rating scales are useless)
I'll never understand why a group of intelligent guys are amused by these kinds of threads.
Yet here you are...as for the 1-10 scale, all relativity and personal tastes fall between the 4 and 7 levels of the scale; almost all guys agree which girls are hideously ugly and which girls are ridiculously attractive.
Your 5 could be my 7 and my 4 could be your 6, but I really doubt that your 9 is anything less than my 8 or your 2 is anything more than my 3.
Watch that movie to see two things;
1) The nauseating depths of John Lennon's betatude. I'm not let down because he quite clearly settled for Yoko (let's not avoid the fact that he probably got more pussy than God before he met her), I'm let down by how much of a deluded pussy he became. 'World Peace' looks good on a bumper sticker; too bad it's impossible from both an economical and a psychological standpoint.
2) How pathetically uncool and Stalinesque the Nixon presidency was. Entire industries are built around maximizing your gains (be they pussy, money, prospects or status) by making you appear cooler than you are...and the reason John Lennon is a hero today and Nixon is a criminal today is because one was much cooler than the other (well that and Watergate...but if Nixon was as cool as Kennedy he could have recovered from it).
What would you do with your 9? What does a 9 entail to you? Would you cupcake her more? Because at this stage of the game, it's just about pumping and eventually dumping right? So I am actually interested..what would one do with a 9 that they wouldn't do with a 7? How would their behaviour differ from a 9 that it wouldn't from a 7?
I think 9's would just get different public treatment. As long as a lizard passes the boner test and meets a mid to high 6, I think guys would pretty much go off in that ass the same way they would with a 9.
The only difference with a 9 is that one wouldn't be ashamed to go to a public function with her in tow.
The 1-10 number scale means nothing to me, for me it's either "would fuck her" or "would NOT fuck her". I don't need anything else to guide me. My opinion only.
09-23-2011 06:38 PM
Nonpareil
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(09-23-2011 04:27 PM)Moma Wrote: What would you do with your 9? What does a 9 entail to you? Would you cupcake her more? Because at this stage of the game, it's just about pumping and eventually dumping right? So I am actually interested..what would one do with a 9 that they wouldn't do with a 7? How would their behaviour differ from a 9 that it wouldn't from a 7?
I think 9's would just get different public treatment. As long as a lizard passes the boner test and meets a mid to high 6, I think guys would pretty much go off in that ass the same way they would with a 9.
The only difference with a 9 is that one wouldn't be ashamed to go to a public function with her in tow.
Am I onto something or am I totally off?
It's not totally about pumping and dumping; the pump and dump and short-term FWB situation is good, but so would an LTR with an attractive girl with a quality personality.
That's really the equalizer (for women) here; attractive girls can bitch and moan because they can't find a guy for any longer than a few weeks, when they're uninteresting, whiny people. Looks will get us on the hook, but lacking in quality...if the materia is less than fine, only a fool would stay on the hook.
Most guys game would actually come off tighter with the 7 than the 9 because he's appear more disinterested. A girl of lesser attractiveness would have to be that much cooler than a more attractive girl to have the same success in the relationship game. The sad fact is that once a girl i sat or above a certain threshold (widely acknowledged as 8), all she really needs to do is show up.
I think the point at which guys stop experiencing shame at being seen with a girl in public is 7, and 8-9 is where the guy starts having pride about being seen in public.
(09-23-2011 04:27 PM)Moma Wrote: What would you do with your 9? What does a 9 entail to you? Would you cupcake her more? Because at this stage of the game, it's just about pumping and eventually dumping right? So I am actually interested..what would one do with a 9 that they wouldn't do with a 7? How would their behaviour differ from a 9 that it wouldn't from a 7?
I think 9's would just get different public treatment. As long as a lizard passes the boner test and meets a mid to high 6, I think guys would pretty much go off in that ass the same way they would with a 9.
The only difference with a 9 is that one wouldn't be ashamed to go to a public function with her in tow.
Am I onto something or am I totally off?
It's not totally about pumping and dumping; the pump and dump and short-term FWB situation is good, but so would an LTR with an attractive girl with a quality personality.
That's really the equalizer (for women) here; attractive girls can bitch and moan because they can't find a guy for any longer than a few weeks, when they're uninteresting, whiny people. Looks will get us on the hook, but lacking in quality...if the materia is less than fine, only a fool would stay on the hook.
Most guys game would actually come off tighter with the 7 than the 9 because he's appear more disinterested. A girl of lesser attractiveness would have to be that much cooler than a more attractive girl to have the same success in the relationship game. The sad fact is that once a girl i sat or above a certain threshold (widely acknowledged as 8), all she really needs to do is show up.
I think the point at which guys stop experiencing shame at being seen with a girl in public is 7, and 8-9 is where the guy starts having pride about being seen in public.
s-
I think we're seeking answers in the wrong places. My BFF and best man was and still is the poster boy for this bullshit. First hand and detailed observation has enabled some conclusions. The conclusions don't lie in betatude/intimidation factor or extreme thirstiness: Some guys just don't have normal standards-this nigga once fucked a 3 all weekend! He'd have married her but has me to thank for not inflicting his folks with ugloid grandkids.
They're not so much serial down daters but omnivorous feeders. This dude handles 4s and 8 with equinamity. In a way I envy his particular tribe. They build up impressive notches;he's easily twice mine in the low 300s. Being constitutionally incapable of even semi hardening for a -6 and not requiring an ego boost via a rock star slay list I just watch and smile.