Post: #26

I agree - you have a good basis.

I will leave you with a list of sites that may help you - of course aside from ReturnOfKings and the forum here.
Red Pill: The Rational Male - books, site with all articles
Heartiste on Game is also helpful

Game:
Roosh - Daygame - good book for indirect Game
Nick Krauser - Direct Game - his products are also worth the cash

Since you are going into medicine:
http://www.doctoryourself.com/index.html
http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html - many talks available by Dr. Cathcart
You can check out orthomolecular medicine like another fresh MD who came to appreciate that suppressed part of medicine - especially high-dosage supplements and vitamin C for various conditions.

Aside from that - most guys go through an angry period after becoming Red Pill. The fact that you did that at such an early stage means that even age 15 is not too early. But it is very very good that you got out of that. We are here about self-improvement and because we love women - just learning here how to deal better with them. There is a subset of the pua-hate crowd who are Red Pill while denying Game. That is a very dark place because then you are limited to try to look better, beauty ops or more extreme "solutions".

In any case - you are at a good place - if you start meeting up with guys, then you will find that we are mostly a reasonable bunch.

Post: #27

I agree - you have a good basis.

I will leave you with a list of sites that you are aware - of course aside from ReturnOfKings and the forum here.
Red Pill: The Rational Male - books, site with all articles
Heartiste on Game is also helpful

Game direct:
Roosh - Daygame - good book for indirect Game
Nick Krauser - Direct Game - his products are also worth the cash

Since you are going to medicine:
http://www.doctoryourself.com/index.html
http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html
You can check out orthomolecular medicine like another fresh MD who came to appreciate that suppressed part of medicine - especially high-dosage supplements and vitamin C for various conditions.

Aside from that - most guys go through an angry period after becoming Red Pill. The fact that you did that at such an early stage means that even age 15 is not too early. But it is very very good that you got out of that. We are here about self-improvement and because we love women - just learning here how to deal better with them. There is a subset of the pua-hate crowd who are Red Pill while denying Game. That is a very dark place because then you are limited to try to look better, beauty ops or more extreme "solutions".

In any case - you are at a good place - if you start meeting up with guys, then you will find that we are mostly a reasonable bunch.

Post: #28

If I were at your age, I would dedicate more time and mental energy to fitness than game.

A guy with a fantastic body and great athleticism can do well even with a modicum of game. Online is becoming an increasingly prevalent and time-efficient way to spit game, and on Tinder, looks matter the most. I used to spit a boring ass routine to girls on there but my profile was solid and I looked good in my pictures. If you can put on thirty pounds of muscle and become a vastly better athlete in that time, you can slay without too much effort being put into game itself.

Don't be a guy with "good game", be a well rounded man who won't have to spend hours in a mall just to get a girl's number. Also make sure not to make women the center of your life. Roosh himself just put out a post declaring his disgust with casual hooking up and how it made him feel like a fake person. This also happened to me (albeit to a lesser extent) -- fucking randoms really is not the end all be all of life. You will get a million times more satisfaction from winning an amateur fight or putting up a 500 lb deadlift than you will from getting notch #21. I would know because I've done both.

The game industry, at its best, will help you scratch an itch and fulfill a basic biological need. It won't fulfill you, it won't make you happy, and it won't necessarily make you a better person. You absolutely should daygame and build social confidence, but by itself, game is not nearly enough to make you a quality man.

If I were you, I'd sign up for a BJJ/MMA gym and get a personal trainer for lifting. Come out of college with a massive squat/deadlift and a blue belt in BJJ (with strong expertise in MMA as well). Pursue your actual hobbies (making music, writing, whatever it is). Travel/study abroad as much as you can. Build a good and healthy lifestyle for yourself. Then on the side spit game at girls on the way to class and enjoy a party every now and then.

Post: #29

If stuttering less and making eye contact are accomplishments, I'd advice to dedicate a solid amount of time to your social skills. Just befriending sociable people is not going to cut it.

In my opinion live coaching would be best to get those social skills. Because:
- A good coach can "diagnose" where you're at. Someone else needs to look at you (live, or through Skype) and point out what needs fixing
- One micro-skill (making eye contact, talk slow) takes a lot of practice to get it under your belt. Having someone correct you consistently for a week helps tremendously
- Can put you in touch with a healthy peer group IRL who are on a similar path
- It's time and cost effective. Learning social skills without help takes a long time, especially if you're not working in the service industry or a sales job where you are judged for it

Is medicine something you're passionate about?

Post: #30

"So I agree with guys saying that the focus in that age should be career and education, but Red Pill and Game is an important part of the overall growth as a man."

This sums it up best, IMO. Seduction should be a hobby, and always come second to your meaningful life goals. If you are feeling like a failure for not banging girls now, you are plain using the wrong criteria to evaluate your progress as a MAN, not a silly PUA.

Also, referring to your title, let's be clear: you don't learn game so much as practice it, same as dancing or lifting.
If you are regularly socialising with a lot of different people, and then read an article now and then to inspire you on some sticking points or what have you, you are doing it right.
If you are constantly studying so called game materials and doing one approach a week where you try to contrive a weird conversation that you saw in an infield video, get nowhere, then go home and spend all night on this forum, cool as it may be, you are doing it wrong.
Practice > study.

Post: #31

I have starting lifting weights since about 2 or 3 weeks. I started squatting the bar now I do 40kg - I know it's low af, but it's progress .

In all seriousness I am planning to get Roosh's book about daygame. I read a little bit, and when he described guys with terrible day game - it sounded like me... But thats just encouragement!

Note:
I used to be really focused on chasing girls, but I have focused my energy into studying at school since September. My current school is liberal as ****. So I remain quiet about issues like gender. My current friends are well erm.. Bluepilled as fuck. But I tolerate them. After reading 48 Laws of power, I realised having them made me blend in - which is a good thing IMO. Especially since at my school, being even slightly right wing is a death sentence.
For anyone curious why my school is like this, it's because since Year 7 - Year 11 (Ages 11-16) the school is all boys. But at Sixth-form (16-18) the school becomes mixed sex. So what I am guessing is that these pussy deprived boys have essentially become tampons for these girls, and hence support everything they do. Some of the students (including me) have recently joined at the sixth-form from mixed sex schools, so we are well, a lot less tolerant of girl's bs.

Post: #32

You'll be fine, mate.

Post: #33

(03-20-2018 08:32 PM)PondScum Wrote:  If you are worried about your sexual performance (don't be, btw, girls just wanna have fun, and laying down the perfect pipe is only one part of that. One night, I was too wasted to get a boner on a first shag, so we danced around the kitchen to balkan party music, had a mostly naked jam fight, then showered together and pissed on each other while we cried with laughter. I can't remember why that was so funny, but it was. She was addicted to me after that. And cleaned the kitchen in the morning. Top trout.)

This made me smile, I need the full story man.

Post: #34

One is never too young or too old to do anything--but a man's got to know his limitations.