Post: #51

Seriously I think there’s a case for nice underwear.
The first fuck is the time where you need to make a good impression (assuming you want a second fuck, which is both polite and -in some cases at least- convenient). Obviously performance is more important, but the details matter too.

Post: #52

I don't think the CK label or CK boxers are particularly status symbols these days like they were in the 90's but I have had plates make positive comments about my designer underwear on day 2, day 3 lays. Not an important detail in the buildup but I agree with you Montrose - its a nice touch..

Props to the OP for stimulating debate.

Post: #53

(02-26-2018 08:55 AM)Mig Picante Wrote:  Someone else has already said it and explained it very well here:
http://wallstreetplayboys.com/personal-f...nd-dating/

"If She Can’t Experience It, It Does Not Exist"

Excellent link, thank-you.

Post: #54

In Detroit, Cartier sunglasses with White Buffalo Horn frames. Came out of urban culture. Unfortunately, there's a good chance you can be set up to be robbed or killed for these in Detroit specifically. Rappers love wearing these as well (ie. Big Sean, Dej Loaf, etc.)

Brand new before sales tax direct from Cartier runs a cool $2,895.

Cartier - C DÉCOR SUNGLASSES - White Buffalo Horn, Smooth Golden Finish, Brown Lenses

There was a funny urban parody movie filmed in Detroit about these glasses:

Buffed Up (Movie):





And here is an excellent article on the topic of these coveted glasses as well (and its role specifically in the Detroit area):

Cartier Kings (article)

Some awesome history on the legendary French brand, Cartier, that has supplied jewelry and other items to royal figures & celebrities since the 1800's. The Wikipedia entry.

Post: #55

A status symbol that's biologically ingrained in both men and women are people who have very erect posture, with head held high, and sticking out your chest. If you combine that with a well-fitted suit (with pocket square), color-coordinated dress shirt, decent shoes, and smooth manners you'll be amazed at how differently you get treated by people.

I really don't think most girls care about brand. If you like a shiny, fashion-forward suit, then instead of buying one from Hugo Boss, Gucci, or Burberry, just get one custom-made in the style that you like. It may cost 1-2 thousand dollars less than one of those designer brands (depending on the material you choose) and will likely look better because it will be fitted completely to your body.

Another way to display status is to have a girl meet you in an upscale cocktail lounge, cigar bar, or trendy restaurant in which the staff treats you extremely differentially or else you already have it on lock. Then, you just act like that that kind of place is your usual hangout, which is easier to do if it really is your usual hangout. I took a girl once on a first date to an upscale cocktail bar with a person playing the piano on a small stage. I ordered the cheese plate and I could tell she didn't know how to combine the cheeses with the different condiments that were served so I showed her how to do it. I could tell it really had an effect on her and led to an SNL.

Post: #56

Alot of you guys are taking this too far. The OP simply wanted items that could be seen as status symbols, Simply a fun topic. Doesn't mean he's using it to attract women or to intimidate men. SIMPLY something to help him see items that have made other men feel like they have status

With that said i do agree with the lifestyle choice being a status symbol


THE BIGGEST STATUS SYMBOL OF ALL IS A GENUINE SMILE.

WHY? because so many people go through life faking a smile. Hiding their true pain, struggling to get by and letting that struggle keep them down. A genuine smile can be contagious and can prove that you made it, you're happy, you're not only content with life but overjoyed with life.

THE SECOND BIGGEST STATUS SYMBOL IS A HUGE INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT
I don't know about you all but every girl I ever met wanted my Instagram account. At the moment I don't have one but just imagine pulling out an Instagram account and its similar to @tomclaeren or the old youtube channel High on life? Imagine her seeing you traveling the world, going to extravagant parties, Riding in the best cars while wearing the best clothes. Do all of this for yourself, as a journal of your happiest moments (instead of most people who do it to brag). She's going to pretty much beg to be apart of that life or at the very least fuck the person who is capable of doing all of this......

So yeah

Post: #57

(02-27-2018 01:25 PM)Keepiticy2 Wrote:  Alot of you guys are taking this too far. The OP simply wanted items that could be seen as status symbols, Simply a fun topic.

OK:

Watch
Suit
Blazer (if not wearing a suit)
Waistcoat/vest
Quality leather jacket
Dress shoes

In addition to red, I think purple is also a color that denotes power and status.

Post: #58

(02-27-2018 01:33 PM)C-Note Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 01:25 PM)Keepiticy2 Wrote:  Alot of you guys are taking this too far. The OP simply wanted items that could be seen as status symbols, Simply a fun topic.

OK:

Watch
Suit
Blazer (if not wearing a suit)
Waistcoat/vest
Quality leather jacket
Dress shoes

In addition to red, I think purple is also a color that denotes power and status.

I liked your original statement, i was referring to the people who were stating that physical things and name brands don't show status.

Post: #59

Hilariously half this shit doesn't even fucking matter if you can't open your mouth to talk to a girl.

Beyond the obvious shit you'd wear on the regular - most this shit isn't a "status" unless you're around people who will validate you for it and comment on it. It only makes YOU "feel" like high status - which in most cases should be the only thing that matters in the first place.

I agree with basics - clothes, shoes, and accessories. Those should be the bread and butter of any guy.

Can't afford name brand shit ? Fuck it, get generic suits, get them tailored, they might put a designer suit to shame, I know some of mine have because they didn't get it tailored.

Can't afford red botoms? Buy multiple colors in a favorite style shoe/dress shoe.

Same goes for blank tees, jeans, canvas, pants etc.

You shouldn't be throwing money at shit you can't afford....all just for the status.

Then you just look like a foolish 30K Millionaire.

Post: #60

Bro..... you can't expect to bang 7's or higher in 2018 without having at least one private jet.

Haven't you heard? Poland and Ukraine are finished and the sky is falling.

I don't have my jet yet but I'm close to a purchase. I've saved a lot of money because I don't buy appetizers or pay for girl's taxis when I'm south of Texas.

P.S. don't worry about this shit, improve your appearance and game, pay attention to what kaotic said ^ up there and what steelex said here

Post: #61

How old are you keepicity? I doubt many men over 25 use instagram.

Post: #62

(02-27-2018 06:32 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  How old are you keepicity? I doubt many men over 25 use instagram.

Then you're late to the game, I'm in my early 30's and use IG - plenty of guys do.

If you're good looking and have decent photos, bonus for pics of you traveling and having fun - you can clean up on IG.

ESPECIALLY if you're jacked.

My good friends is 36 and slays it on IG, he gets unsolicited messages from girls.

IG is an underrated tool if you know how to use it.

Post: #63

I thought the girl was the status symbol.

Post: #64

(02-27-2018 06:45 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  I thought the girl was the status symbol.

On your arm, yes a bit.

On a pedestal, never.

But you know this

Post: #65

(02-27-2018 06:32 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  I doubt many men over 25 use instagram.

Only the thing is, we do.

I'm pretty sure it came out when we were in our late teens not long after the iPhone became more accessible and social media really started to take off, admittedly I use it for photos of my dog, nature and myself, standard boring IG but use it right and you can get a bang or two.

Post: #66

(02-27-2018 01:53 PM)kaotic Wrote:  You shouldn't be throwing money at shit you can't afford....all just for the status.

Then you just look like a foolish 30K Millionaire.

I don't know, surely no one can think it's wise to spend ridiculous amounts of money just to achieve status if you can't afford it of course. But I think there is a good point in trying to dress and appear more successful than you really are, if you have a career you care about or whatever.

Perception is reality. Dan Pena talks a lot about this and how he used to go and try Rolls Royce and smell the leather at car stores before he even could afford them and how he and his wife would dress up to go and view properties worth millions before he was able to live in a castle like today. He would also always wear a 3 piece suit before he got rich and wealthy and he talks a lot about making people perceive you as more successful and high status than you really are.
Sure it can be seen as try hard if it's the only thing you actually got going for you, then it's just a facade, but I also think there is some power in faking it til you make it, if you want to move forward in life.

Post: #67

(02-27-2018 07:16 PM)The Alpha Virgin Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 01:53 PM)kaotic Wrote:  You shouldn't be throwing money at shit you can't afford....all just for the status.

Then you just look like a foolish 30K Millionaire.

I don't know, surely no one can think it's wise to spend ridiculous amounts of money just to achieve status if you can't afford it of course. But I think there is a good point in trying to dress and appear more successful than you really are, if you have a career you care about or whatever.

Perception is reality. Dan Pena talks a lot about this and how he used to go and try Rolls Royce and smell the leather at car stores before he even could afford them and how he and his wife would dress up to go and view properties worth millions before he was able to live in a castle like today. He would also always wear a 3 piece suit before he got rich and wealthy and he talks a lot about making people perceive you as more successful and high status than you really are.
Sure it can be seen as try hard if it's the only thing you actually got going for you, then it's just a facade, but I also think there is some power in faking it til you make it, if you want to move forward in life.

You didn't quote the rest of what I said.

You can dress real nice on the cheap and feel like a million bucks.

Faking it (spending money you don't have) till you make it (get rich) is stupid.

Looking like a million bucks, on the cheap, and feeling like it as well, is a different story.

The try hards are the fake ballers and the 30K millionaires of the world - and they're easy to spot a mile away.

There's alot in between "visualization" of your goals and getting rich.

Dressing the part is maybe .1% of what you'll need to be at Dan Pena's level.

Definitely yes, maximize your looks and wardrobe.

Post: #68

(02-27-2018 06:32 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  How old are you keepicity? I doubt many men over 25 use instagram.

Im 24

Post: #69

I heard there's a VERY fine line between visualization and mental masturbation. i deleted my profile on Instagram and stopped looking at videos of cars and such because i spent more time looking at the life that i could have rather than working to get it

Plus kinda like the no fap theory, once i deleted porn, Instagram, and cars and such. Everything seemed to be "better" sex was better, the sound of my car was better, women in person seemed much more beautiful, and i had a better view of the world


I know this is common sense but i felt i had to share

Post: #70

(02-27-2018 07:31 PM)Keepiticy2 Wrote:  I heard there's a VERY fine line between visualization and mental masturbation. i deleted my profile on Instagram and stopped looking at videos of cars and such because i spent more time looking at the life that i could have rather than working to get it

Plus kinda like the no fap theory, once i deleted porn, Instagram, and cars and such. Everything seemed to be "better" sex was better, the sound of my car was better, women in person seemed much more beautiful, and i had a better view of the world


I know this is common sense but i felt i had to share

This is what I was hinting at with visualization.

Dudes follow tons of girls on IG and mentally masturbate to their pics and like them and comment on them.

Same with cars and accessories - shit they can't afford.

They day dream instead of focusing on HOW to get the lifestyle that gets those things.

That's great you stopped watching porn and don't fap.

That's one of the biggest things that unplugs you from the beta matrix man.


Now don't get me wrong - I'm not hating on dudes who says "man that car is sick as fuck" - but don't rattle off all these stats about it to me.

What you should be asking is, "man how did that guy GET that X (status symbol)"

Post: #71

When I think of belts like that I think of some of the scrubs I know who spend $400+ on Gucci belts so they can "flex." So fucking dumb, wearing stuff that broadcasts name brand "status" just screams "I am inadequate so I spend a lot of money on clothes that all the sheeple wear." Not to be confused with buying high quality garments that fit well and are comfortable that don't scream name brand.

Post: #72

(02-27-2018 01:24 PM)C-Note Wrote:  I really don't think most girls care about brand. If you like a shiny, fashion-forward suit, then instead of buying one from Hugo Boss, Gucci, or Burberry, just get one custom-made in the style that you like. It may cost 1-2 thousand dollars less than one of those designer brands (depending on the material you choose) and will likely look better because it will be fitted completely to your body.

You can buy a suit for $200 or a jacket for $100 at Macy's and spend $50 getting it tailored, and if you have good posture you are ahead of 99.9% of dudes. Forget the tie, and unbutton 1 or 2 top buttons. Pocket squares can look good but too often look "try hard."

But people in the know that most people who still wear suits these days are bankers, accountants, or people on trial. The real status symbol is shedding the suit and tie.

Post: #73

i am kinda wondering... what kind of IG here? is it jeff seid kind of bodybuilders who always post half naked pictures on IG? shit goes stale once you hit late 30s.

(02-27-2018 06:37 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 06:32 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  How old are you keepicity? I doubt many men over 25 use instagram.

Then you're late to the game, I'm in my early 30's and use IG - plenty of guys do.

If you're good looking and have decent photos, bonus for pics of you traveling and having fun - you can clean up on IG.

ESPECIALLY if you're jacked.

My good friends is 36 and slays it on IG, he gets unsolicited messages from girls.

IG is an underrated tool if you know how to use it.

Post: #74

As it pertains to clothes, I think buying quality materials and styling is far more important than brand names or trendiness.

There is a DeNiro film called Ronin that makes this point. (As an aside, its a pretty good spy/action/suspense film, similar to the Jason Bourne flicks. Its not as good as those, but if you watch closely you'll see that that Bourne stole a lot of the driving stunts from this film.) About halfway through the film, DeNiro has to scout the bad guys who are at a high end hotel on the French Riviera. Now, in the film he is a late 50s ex-CIA tough guy, hard on his luck, dresses like a government employee. To penetrate the hotel, he dons a plain merino mock turtleneck with a suede jacket, and has a statuesque 20-something blond on his arm. Its a classic look, and he looks wealthy and like he has status without looking try-hard. The scene is just a minute or two in the movie, but if you want to know how to fake status this is the best explanation I've seen. Here is a clip of his outfit when they are in their dump hideout, getting ready to scout the high-end hotel. This still photo doesn't really do it justice, and the contrast with his appearance earlier in the film is even more instructive.



You can see his outfit a little better in the trailer, but to really understand the power of a few changes you need to watch the film and see the before and after.

Post: #75

This post from Hypno hints at what in my view is the most effective status symbol - being well dressed, and appropriately dressed for your character type.

What does this involve?

Know your colours. There are colours and tones that will suit you and make your face look as good as possible. Know what these are and wear them. The effect of properly selecting your colours on your appearance is quite marked. All of your clothes should conform to the colour palate that suits your complexion.

Know your dimensions and your best features - are you tall, short, long legged, narrow shouldered etc? Dress deliberately to flatter the good features and draw attention away from negative features. For example, I have a long neck, so I tend to wear higher collars, round colours on jumpers, that sort of thing - even just popping the collar on a rugby shirt immediately frames my face better and improves my overall appearance. My face is a good feature for me, so things that draw attention to it, like wearing my hair longer, or tie bars for example, are effective as they draw the eye up and focus attention on my face.

Know your style. I come from a military background, used to box a lot, come from a traditional family, etc etc. For a long time I went with a very classic look, or a very rough and ready look. The reality is that neither of these are best suited to my character, which by nature is more mischievous, playful, suave/aesthetic, sensual and slightly roguish - for some bizarre reason a lot of people think I am mysterious. Girls looked at me and saw a lover, and I was trying to be a fighter. Introducing elements into my dress that emphasised those aspects of my character made me appear much more congruent. Noone saw me as a brooding tough guy, they saw me as the guy who got loads of girls and would probably seduce their sister if they weren't vigilant - even though for most of my life nothing could have been further from the truth. Essentially, dressing 'in character' will help you appear well put together and won't cause any disconnect in people's minds. A congruent man has a certain status.

Jewellery is something you should be careful with too, and pick appropriately for your character and overall style. Again, colouring is important, so knowing if you suit silver or gold is useful. For me, I wear a very slim watch, in silver/metal, with a very simple leather strap. It's a beautiful piece of engineering - a wafer thin self winding watch. But the appearance is refined and elegant - a lover not a fighter, which is how I come across, even if I try to be tough or excessively military. If I were to wear a chunky watch, or bracelets and chains, it would be jarring with my overall image.

Having a style, in the right colours, and in the kind of clothes that flatter your features/create the right overall illusion is an excellent status symbol. You can look high status regardless of whether you wear rugged attire, classic attire, dramatic attire, or opt for an elegant and refined look. One is not better than the other, so long as it suits you. We know this instinctively when, for example, we see massively muscular guys trying to wear over tailored (for them) suits, skinny ties, overly intricate patterns, etc etc.