Post: #1

Hey guys. Noob here. I read Bang about a year ago and was really encouraged by it. I'm an older guy (33) and have kind of (unknowingly) accepted a beta role. I'm pretty average all around in the looks and cash department. On my best day I'm probably a 7 or 8 in terms of looks but I know with some game added, I can be a 10. I have never knowingly used game. I was recently accused of being a player by a solid 9 and kind of let her think that while thinking to myself, oh how I wish! After reading the book, I realize that I have used it (game) and not even realized it. I also learned a lot of other things that really encouraged me. My biggest weakness is approaching. I don't know why but I almost never do it. Most of my limited success comes from when I'm introduced to someone and I take it from there. Anyway just wanted to give a brief intro and I hope to learn a lot from you guys.

As for my question, it's probably been asked before but let me set it up. I met up with some friends (a couple) after a football game the other night. She happend to have 4 or 5 girls on the way. Jackpot! Anyway, one of them was kind of hot and I wasn't interested in the rest. I ended up talking to her and her friend next to her most of the night. I noticed her friend, probably a 5 or a 6, checking me out a lot and giving me a lot of eye contact while the hot one didn't seem as interested. What would you do in this situation? Would you give up on the one you wanted that seemed only mildly interested or just go for the one you KNEW was interested? I'm pretty picky so I stuck to the one that was hot and ended up pissing the other girl off. I didn't get any either way so I feel like I kind of cut off my nose to spite my face. So what would you do here? Thanks in advance.

Post: #2

Hey man, I'm new to all this stuff too, so keep that in mind. But to address your question, from what I've read I think most of the guys on these forums advocate going for the girl who is more of a sure thing. This makes sense because if you're shooting for the more attractive girl who isn't as interested, the majority of the time you'll end up with nothing. You want to maximize your success rate by going for the girl who you can tell is into you. If she's not even really attractive enough for you to care, then you might as well go for the one girl you're actually into, but it sounds like the other girl was decent in your case. I think the hotter girl would have to show enough interest in you for you to justify taking the chance, so they would both need to seem fairly interested.

I think the point where you can start taking more risks with hotter girls, and risk ending up empty handed is when you're like some of the successful guys on this forum that already have a handful of girls lined up and are simply looking to replace them with higher quality girls. At this point it seems like if you strike out you're not really losing anything.

Just my two cents.

Post: #3

(09-19-2011 11:11 AM)Constantine Wrote:  Hey man, I'm new to all this stuff too, so keep that in mind. But to address your question, from what I've read I think most of the guys on these forums advocate going for the girl who is more of a sure thing. This makes sense because if you're shooting for the more attractive girl who isn't as interested, the majority of the time you'll end up with nothing. You want to maximize your success rate by going for the girl who you can tell is into you. If she's not even really attractive enough for you to care, then you might as well go for the one girl you're actually into, but it sounds like the other girl was decent in your case. I think the hotter girl would have to show enough interest in you for you to justify taking the chance, so they would both need to seem fairly interested.

I think the point where you can start taking more risks with hotter girls, and risk ending up empty handed is when you're like some of the successful guys on this forum that already have a handful of girls lined up and are simply looking to replace them with higher quality girls. At this point it seems like if you strike out you're not really losing anything.

Just my two cents.

Thanks for the reply. One of my "issues" is that I'm probably more picky than I should be. I don't know if that's something that I can change although I have noticed that I find some chicks more attractive now that I wouldn't have a few years ago. I have a buddy that will bang just about anything that walks and I wish I could do that but I'm somewhat repulsed by some of them. I don't know how he does it. I've never been with a fatty and the ugliest girl I've been with was probably in the 6-7 range but had a really nice ass which made her more of a 9 after a few drinks. I think I'm going to take more chances with the ones I'm not as attracted to, like you said, to kind of build up some prospects and come across as more in demand. I've never worried about having that type of image in the past but it does seem that it helps.

Post: #4

Fuck dude. Turns out I was waaaaaaaaaaaaayyy off base. The uglier chick has a bf and I'm going out with the hot one this weekend. Life is fucking weird. Wish me luck.

Post: #5

Life is very strange my friend. This much I know is true.


Well good luck!

For some reason I find I have better odds after listening to "beatin the odds" by Molly Hatchet. I'm not sure if there's anything special about the song or that it just makes me feel like an all out bad ass.

Check it out.

Check out my post in this same section while you're at it.

Post: #6

(09-20-2011 11:29 PM)Bookemdano01 Wrote:  Life is very strange my friend. This much I know is true.


Well good luck!

For some reason I find I have better odds after listening to "beatin the odds" by Molly Hatchet. I'm not sure if there's anything special about the song or that it just makes me feel like an all out bad ass.

Check it out.

Check out my post in this same section while you're at it.

Molly Hatchet always makes me feel like I'm a pro at fixing cars even if I
m just kind of average. I'm gonna check your post out now.

Post: #7

Well maybe that's why I like them so much.

I was a Fuel Inductions specialist on a Blown Alcohol Dragster pit crew for years and I own several muscle cars.

Post: #8

(09-20-2011 11:45 PM)Bookemdano01 Wrote:  Well maybe that's why I like them so much.

I was a Fuel Inductions specialist on a Blown Alcohol Dragster pit crew for years and I own several muscle cars.

Nice! You don't happen to have a 68 Chevelle or Camaro do you? Those are my favorite 2 classics. I'm thinking about getting one or the other pretty soon.

Post: #9

My boss back in the day had a 68 Camaro.

I've had:

72 Road Runner
72 Cadillac Coupe Deville W/ 472
69 Ranchero GT350

Currently have:
70 Pontiac Firebird Formula 400 W/ Trans Am 455
71 Pontiac LeMans

Restoring:
56 Ford 2dr Sedan
59 Ford F100
72 Ford F100 4x4 Sport Custom

Post: #10

I guess you can keep having high ass expectations with bitches but you're going to be struggling if you're new to this. I would start from the bottom and work my way up. It makes things a lot easier.

Post: #11

(09-22-2011 12:30 AM)houston Wrote:  I guess you can keep having high ass expectations with bitches but you're going to be struggling if you're new to this. I would start from the bottom and work my way up. It makes things a lot easier.

This is true. However, as the country song says, "you've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything". I can't bone a whale, just can't do it. I'm sure moth people can't either. I'm a stone cold believer in the saying "When at first you don't succeed, try, try again".

Post: #12

(09-22-2011 12:30 AM)houston Wrote:  I guess you can keep having high ass expectations with bitches but you're going to be struggling if you're new to this. I would start from the bottom and work my way up. It makes things a lot easier.

The thing is, I don't have to use any game to get lower chicks. Talking to two lower ones right now just for shits and giggles but I'm meeting up with a hottie this weekend. I'll have to have a little game for her but we've already met once and got along ok. I just misread her. I didn't think she was very interested but it turns out she was.

Post: #13

(09-22-2011 07:21 AM)BetaNoob Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 12:30 AM)houston Wrote:  I guess you can keep having high ass expectations with bitches but you're going to be struggling if you're new to this. I would start from the bottom and work my way up. It makes things a lot easier.

The thing is, I don't have to use any game to get lower chicks. Talking to two lower ones right now just for shits and giggles but I'm meeting up with a hottie this weekend. I'll have to have a little game for her but we've already met once and got along ok. I just misread her. I didn't think she was very interested but it turns out she was.

Similar to my "misread" except not quite as epic of a failure. Don't forget the Molly Hatchet my friend. HAHA

Post: #14

(09-22-2011 02:16 PM)Bookemdano01 Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 07:21 AM)BetaNoob Wrote:  

(09-22-2011 12:30 AM)houston Wrote:  I guess you can keep having high ass expectations with bitches but you're going to be struggling if you're new to this. I would start from the bottom and work my way up. It makes things a lot easier.

The thing is, I don't have to use any game to get lower chicks. Talking to two lower ones right now just for shits and giggles but I'm meeting up with a hottie this weekend. I'll have to have a little game for her but we've already met once and got along ok. I just misread her. I didn't think she was very interested but it turns out she was.

Similar to my "misread" except not quite as epic of a failure. Don't forget the Molly Hatchet my friend. HAHA

Thanks man. I will give the Molly Hatchet a go. lmao

Post: #15

Try it out and you'll find that you'll be "beatin' the odds"