Post: #51

I know my answer is not to the questions that you originally asked. But if you really are looking for something long-term, and your intentions are legit, I think Belgrade is where you need to go.

You won't be slamming bitches, you wont be using tinder, but if you give yourself 3-6 months and make an effort, you'll meet a good woman there who you will treat you well.

Or you can go Turkey *cough* I mean Ukraine.

Post: #52

(02-17-2018 12:26 AM)xai Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 08:29 AM)Themin Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 08:27 AM)Henny Wrote:  Do you speak Russian TheMin? Otherwise conversations with Ukrainians are often boring.

She thought you were an Oligarch the first time she met you eh? Not the greatest compliment seeing as most are old and ugly

learning russian atm. But I choose carefully girls who speak good english/italian/french or above obviously... normally highly educated girls, do (or foreinger groupies but those also tend not to be that well educated...)
She meant because of the presence I commanded

Why do you guys want a more educated girl that's been indoctrinated with feminist ideology from college? A girl can still be intelligent without the indoctrination. I realize a second income could be handy but is it really worth the headache?

Because we need to talk to her about something

Post: #53

What is with the Filipina bashing in this thread? Aren't we as men supposed to like them for what they are and what they offer? In America, that last sentence would sound like I was being a male feminist but with Filipinas it's different. Allow me to defend them as we have a 210 page thread on the subject with no one representing the benefits of Filipinas yet.

Objectively, Filipinas are not the hottest girls in the world, but they are certainly not ugly. I think it helps if you don't care about skin color and you like the Asian look (I happen to be both here) but objectively, I'd portray Filipinas as it's probably more difficult to find a stunner because they tend to have smaller bodies in general, but you also won't see as many outright ugly girls. I noticed this in Taiwan too, there's a lot of cute, short and skinny chicks. Some guys dig that look.

I love Eastern European chicks as much as the next guy, but let's not pretend that they age great. From what I've seen, their looks tend to fall off faster than Asian girls. I've been with 30's Filipinas that can pass for around 25.

The reason I like Filipinas is because with most of them that I have been with, it's like my mind gets to be a bit at ease. Yes, they will shit test but at the same time, it's not about every little thing. Usually it's more big picture stuff and the girls are very relaxed, optimistic, and tend to enjoy life for what it is. In a way, it's very refreshing compared to the environment I've seen in the west where girls get triggered over the slightest miscue or projection.

I've never been to Ukraine or dated one, but I'm a simple and laid back guy, I feel like the materialistic soft-gold digger personality would get annoying pretty quickly for me.

Post: #54

(02-16-2018 04:10 AM)Tintin Wrote:  Dont know why you feed the op, guy is blatant troll. On the off chance he's not, then I suggest he goes to Odessa in summertime where he can join the hordes of misguided ill-informed yanks who came to meet their princesses ofrom Anastasia date.

Grab the American passport and the cowboy hat, sit outside of Dublin Pub and wait for the magic to happen

The food at that place is terrible

Post: #55

(02-17-2018 12:26 AM)xai Wrote:  Why do you guys want a more educated girl that's been indoctrinated with feminist ideology from college? A girl can still be intelligent without the indoctrination. I realize a second income could be handy but is it really worth the headache?

If you want an idiot, don't go to the FSU, they're amongst the smartest and most strong willed women I know and I don't think you'd be able to handle that considering the above.

My advice, stay in Asia.

Post: #56

(02-17-2018 04:14 AM)Bikal Wrote:  

(02-17-2018 12:26 AM)xai Wrote:  Why do you guys want a more educated girl that's been indoctrinated with feminist ideology from college? A girl can still be intelligent without the indoctrination. I realize a second income could be handy but is it really worth the headache?

If you want an idiot, don't go to the FSU, they're amongst the smartest and most strong willed women I know and I don't think you'd be able to handle that considering the above.

My advice, stay in Asia.

When you attempt to spread misinformation it's hard to not rip on you. Do you lack reading comprehension or are you attempting to push some agenda?

Being intelligent and educated are entirely different. You can be a moron with an art degree.

You almost sound like a male feminist. You're putting Ukrainian girls on a pedestal. The girls to me are like any other girl I've plowed. Maybe a little more attractive. I don't care about your psychological projections about how intelligent or strong willed they are.

I only care about:
a) if you dated or fucked them. What worked for you and how did it compare to other countries? It's a very simple question that keeps getting derailed over and over.

Post: #57

(02-17-2018 04:59 AM)xai Wrote:  When you attempt to spread misinformation it's hard to not rip on you. Do you lack reading comprehension or are you attempting to push some agenda?

Being intelligent and educated are entirely different. You can be a moron with an art degree.

You almost sound like a male feminist. You're putting Ukrainian girls on a pedestal. The girls to me are like any other girl I've plowed. Maybe a little more attractive. I don't care about your psychological projections about how intelligent or strong willed they are.

I only care about:
a) if you dated or fucked them. What worked for you and how did it compare to other countries? It's a very simple question that keeps getting derailed over and over.

Wow you're a major douche aren't you? You stated you were looking for a LTR, that usually means you'll have an educated, intelligent girl who's mature, feminism doesn't enter into it.

Now as I've already stated, I've dated and had ONS with Ukrainians and Russians, I was myself, I spoke Russian and met them at home and abroad and while I took charge I wasn't an idiot and they respond well to strong men as is the culture in the FSU.

Overall your original statement as to what you wanted vs. what it appears you actually want, you're in for a shock when you hit the FSU, these girls aren't easy hoes like the Asians, I can already see you getting gamed by them with multiple dates and blueballs at the end.

Good luck on your endeavour, I can't wait to hear all about it

Post: #58

(02-17-2018 05:09 AM)Bikal Wrote:  

(02-17-2018 04:59 AM)xai Wrote:  When you attempt to spread misinformation it's hard to not rip on you. Do you lack reading comprehension or are you attempting to push some agenda?

Being intelligent and educated are entirely different. You can be a moron with an art degree.

You almost sound like a male feminist. You're putting Ukrainian girls on a pedestal. The girls to me are like any other girl I've plowed. Maybe a little more attractive. I don't care about your psychological projections about how intelligent or strong willed they are.

I only care about:
a) if you dated or fucked them. What worked for you and how did it compare to other countries? It's a very simple question that keeps getting derailed over and over.

Wow you're a major douche aren't you? You stated you were looking for a LTR, that usually means you'll have an educated, intelligent girl who's mature, feminism doesn't enter into it.

Now as I've already stated, I've dated and had ONS with Ukrainians and Russians, I was myself, I spoke Russian and met them at home and abroad and while I took charge I wasn't an idiot and they respond well to strong men as is the culture in the FSU.

Overall your original statement as to what you wanted vs. what it appears you actually want, you're in for a shock when you hit the FSU, these girls aren't easy hoes like the Asians, I can already see you getting gamed by them with multiple dates and blueballs at the end.

Good luck on your endeavour, I can't wait to hear all about it

I've been around the block a few times. You just come off as a guy trying to protect his little flock of hens more then anything else. I could be wrong, but that's the impression I get from you. Especially when you make comments like I should stay in Asia.

I have a lot of Polish/Russian friends and what they tell me vs what you say is entirely different. That's why I'm calling you out. They told me diner dates are entirely normal and the girls tend to expect it. Especially with a man traveling from halfway across the world. If you tell some 8, you'd rather take her for a walk in the park. She's going to think you're broke or a sex tourist. It's not the best impression. You're telling me they use this to scam western guys. This could also be true. You're not going to know either way. She could be playing the long game and butt fuck you once you're married too.


Speaking of Asia, I hear the same things from guy there. You know why, they don't want some guy coming there, making it rain and then having the girls expect that. It's self preservation, I understand.

Post: #59

(02-17-2018 02:48 AM)yankeetravels Wrote:  What is with the Filipina bashing in this thread? Aren't we as men supposed to like them for what they are and what they offer? In America, that last sentence would sound like I was being a male feminist but with Filipinas it's different. Allow me to defend them as we have a 210 page thread on the subject with no one representing the benefits of Filipinas yet.

Objectively, Filipinas are not the hottest girls in the world, but they are certainly not ugly. I think it helps if you don't care about skin color and you like the Asian look (I happen to be both here) but objectively, I'd portray Filipinas as it's probably more difficult to find a stunner because they tend to have smaller bodies in general, but you also won't see as many outright ugly girls. I noticed this in Taiwan too, there's a lot of cute, short and skinny chicks. Some guys dig that look.

I love Eastern European chicks as much as the next guy, but let's not pretend that they age great. From what I've seen, their looks tend to fall off faster than Asian girls. I've been with 30's Filipinas that can pass for around 25.

The reason I like Filipinas is because with most of them that I have been with, it's like my mind gets to be a bit at ease. Yes, they will shit test but at the same time, it's not about every little thing. Usually it's more big picture stuff and the girls are very relaxed, optimistic, and tend to enjoy life for what it is. In a way, it's very refreshing compared to the environment I've seen in the west where girls get triggered over the slightest miscue or projection.

I've never been to Ukraine or dated one, but I'm a simple and laid back guy, I feel like the materialistic soft-gold digger personality would get annoying pretty quickly for me.

Yes Ukraine women age badly thus it's necessary to get them at a young age and rear them on a healthy diet and plenty of exercise, much like finding a dog at the pound hehe

Post: #60

(02-17-2018 04:12 AM)This Is Trouble Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 04:10 AM)Tintin Wrote:  Dont know why you feed the op, guy is blatant troll. On the off chance he's not, then I suggest he goes to Odessa in summertime where he can join the hordes of misguided ill-informed yanks who came to meet their princesses ofrom Anastasia date.

Grab the American passport and the cowboy hat, sit outside of Dublin Pub and wait for the magic to happen

The food at that place is terrible

I dunno, I quite liked the fish and chips!

Post: #61

(02-17-2018 04:59 AM)xai Wrote:  a) if you dated or fucked them. What worked for you and how did it compare to other countries? It's a very simple question that keeps getting derailed over and over.

If easiness is what matter to you, Philippines for sure. There is nothing to discuss about it.

Post: #62

(02-17-2018 04:59 AM)xai Wrote:  I only care about:
a) if you dated or fucked them. What worked for you and how did it compare to other countries? It's a very simple question that keeps getting derailed over and over.

Be a boss

Don't be cheap

Have bankroll

Don't be thirsty

Be interesting

Be in control at all times

Speak good Russian


Few people know how to do this.

Post: #63

Just a note on the surrounding environment when deciding if the price to go to "pussy paradise" is worth it

Phillipines

expect cockroaches where ever you stay and other weird bugs
don't drink the water (similar to ukraine)
don't open the windows for a breath of fresh air
expect a blast of hot humid smog filled air when you first step out into the day
also expect traffic/people chaos (horns 24/7)
expect when it rains slimy (broken) sidewalks (if any) to walk on from the grime, soot and garbage
expect children as young as 4 begging for money in rags
expect street urination
Go have your morning coffee! With a guy guarding the place with a pump action shotgun
Actually everywhere is a guy with a shotgun standing at a building looking at you
Grab some groceries.....but to get in past security ...you need to be patted down and "wanded"
Fine cuisine is 7-11 store fried chicken and rice...or jollibee gravy on rice?..or Kentucky fried chicken and a ball of rice....or basically just like eating chicken and rice.
enjoy stepping over people on the street...or I mean actually living on the street sleeping
A jeepney passenger told me ..be careful all your worth here is a bowl of rice to some people.....yes that's your value! and it's a shock to realize.
I asked an Aussie where a good gym was (he had green snot at both nostrils ..smog related I guess) around Makati he said none closeby that had air conditioning...100 degree workouts in 100 percent humidity blows big time.
Like I wrote earlier people are all stupid but nice 365 days a year....who the fuck puts christmas tree up in September?
IF your western white/black (or some asians types)...you'll stand out...your not blending in....and some starving weasel is dreaming about your money
IF you can deal with the cultural horror (meaning to just ignore it)

THEN you can work on...who isn't a ladyboy and who's a non scamming gold digging cam whoring sweet girl. (Have fun with that).

You know you had a great trip when you can leave and sit on the airplane thinking...fuck I made it out of there alive...with no diseases I hope

And whats the environment for gaming women in the Ukraine?
99 percent of the above isn't there.....yes there is security in malls or stores...but in most cases it's to keep the whores from loitering.
the worst people are usually the taxi drivers
The point is you can have a cheap enjoyable trip and focus not in survival mode...but on women

You know you had a great trip when you think on the plane...fuck I can't wait to go back....and I hope I got no diseases

Post: #64

Both are utter shitholes. Even if you bang 20 Philipino 4s, even if you have a long term relationship with a Ukrainian 7, it's not worth the effort.

Post: #65

I don't understand why these two countries are being compared for this particular reason? They have nothing in common other than they are cheap countries to live in.

Post: #66

Also, are people really complaining about bugs in a tropical area? Might as well complain about how piss cold it is in the Ukraine.

The climates of these place are givens...

Post: #67

(02-17-2018 01:47 PM)Aladdin Wrote:  Both are utter shitholes. Even if you bang 20 Philipino 4s, even if you have a long term relationship with a Ukrainian 7, it's not worth the effort.

What Utopia do you come from Aladdin?

Post: #68

There's nothing else to add to this dumb thread, should be closed

Post: #69

Ukraine is frigid and has a very high divorce rate, it is not a traditional country, it's a broken country.

Also, Ukranian girls have big tits that get worse when they get pregnant and even worse when they get old.

Also, Ukrainian girls have these really sharp faces, like a witch in a children's book, think Soros, not soft at all.

Also, they're pale, when someone is that pale, you can see their veins through their skin, I'm sure some guys are into it, but not everyone is, and they also age terribly unless you keep them in a dark refrigerator and I don't want to live in a dark refrigerator.

You can see moles, birthmarks, and any imperfections on their skin from a mile away.

Also, their butts are like pancakes. White, pasty pancakes.

The guy complaining about a cockroach here and there in the Philippines, there aren't as many bugs in the Ukraine because everything is dead!
The Ukraine is literally a dead land for almost half the year, it's that cold, it's so cold you could be a human popsicle stick if your power went out over there.

Also, the Philippines' GDP growth rate (lately) is usually better than Ukraine's, there's an economic boom, construction everywhere and they've got a president that's getting things done.

Also, team Ukraine's always talking about how Ukranians are so smart. Really? Ukraine's in Europe, the industrial revolution happened not too far away, Ukraine literally got the answers to the test and still managed to fail, how smart can they be? At least the Philippines can say they're at the edge of the world, about as far away from the birthplace of the industrial revolution as you can get in the old world, anyhow. And even with that drawback, the Philippines still used to have a pretty decent lifestyle a couple of decades back before they fell into their current economic malaise.

Also, the guys that have actually lived there frequently comment on the Ukranians' general pessimism, in complete contrast to Filipinos being known for their optimism. Who wants to live around a bunch of sad sacks? Not me. Like seeks like, I suppose.

What's Ukraine doing? Fighting with themselves over a frigid wasteland no one wants to be in except for horny Turks?

The Philippines also exports nurses and caretakers to the rest of the world, that's pretty cool. What does the Ukraine export? Turks a little less horny than they were when they got there? I don't know, I can't think of a single Ukrainian export other than Turkish nutsacks that weigh a little less than the ones in Turkey.

Anyhow, I like Filipinas, the ones I've dated have been really nice, educated, humble, and gorgeous.

Also, nothing against any Ukranians here, I'm just fighting fire with fire.

#teamPhilippines #teamAsia

Post: #70

I implore you all not to bite on the above

Post: #71

(02-17-2018 10:42 PM)Tintin Wrote:  I implore you all not to bite on the above

#teamWeDidn'tStartItButWe'llFinishIt!

Post: #72

#teamPhilippines ftw

Post: #73

(02-17-2018 10:34 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  Ukraine is frigid and has a very high divorce rate, it is not a traditional country, it's a broken country.

Also, Ukranian girls have big tits that get worse when they get pregnant and even worse when they get old.

Also, Ukrainian girls have these really sharp faces, like a witch in a children's book, think Soros, not soft at all.

Also, they're pale, when someone is that pale, you can see their veins through their skin, I'm sure some guys are into it, but not everyone is, and they also age terribly unless you keep them in a dark refrigerator and I don't want to live in a dark refrigerator.

You can see moles, birthmarks, and any imperfections on their skin from a mile away.

Also, their butts are like pancakes. White, pasty pancakes.

The guy complaining about a cockroach here and there in the Philippines, there aren't as many bugs in the Ukraine because everything is dead!
The Ukraine is literally a dead land for almost half the year, it's that cold, it's so cold you could be a human popsicle stick if your power went out over there.

Also, the Philippines' GDP growth rate (lately) is usually better than Ukraine's, there's an economic boom, construction everywhere and they've got a president that's getting things done.

Also, team Ukraine's always talking about how Ukranians are so smart. Really? Ukraine's in Europe, the industrial revolution happened not too far away, Ukraine literally got the answers to the test and still managed to fail, how smart can they be? At least the Philippines can say they're at the edge of the world, about as far away from the birthplace of the industrial revolution as you can get in the old world, anyhow. And even with that drawback, the Philippines still used to have a pretty decent lifestyle a couple of decades back before they fell into their current economic malaise.

Also, the guys that have actually lived there frequently comment on the Ukranians' general pessimism, in complete contrast to Filipinos being known for their optimism. Who wants to live around a bunch of sad sacks? Not me. Like seeks like, I suppose.

What's Ukraine doing? Fighting with themselves over a frigid wasteland no one wants to be in except for horny Turks?

The Philippines also exports nurses and caretakers to the rest of the world, that's pretty cool. What does the Ukraine export? Turks a little less horny than they were when they got there? I don't know, I can't think of a single Ukrainian export other than Turkish nutsacks that weigh a little less than the ones in Turkey.

Anyhow, I like Filipinas, the ones I've dated have been really nice, educated, humble, and gorgeous.

Also, nothing against any Ukranians here, I'm just fighting fire with fire.

#teamPhilippines #teamAsia

I like this guy Better then the male feminists that were coming in here earlier and putting Ukrainian girls on some pedestal

Post: #74

(02-17-2018 10:34 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  Ukraine is frigid and has a very high divorce rate, it is not a traditional country, it's a broken country.

Also, Ukranian girls have big tits that get worse when they get pregnant and even worse when they get old.

Also, Ukrainian girls have these really sharp faces, like a witch in a children's book, think Soros, not soft at all.

Also, they're pale, when someone is that pale, you can see their veins through their skin, I'm sure some guys are into it, but not everyone is, and they also age terribly unless you keep them in a dark refrigerator and I don't want to live in a dark refrigerator.

You can see moles, birthmarks, and any imperfections on their skin from a mile away.

Also, their butts are like pancakes. White, pasty pancakes.

The guy complaining about a cockroach here and there in the Philippines, there aren't as many bugs in the Ukraine because everything is dead!
The Ukraine is literally a dead land for almost half the year, it's that cold, it's so cold you could be a human popsicle stick if your power went out over there.

Also, the Philippines' GDP growth rate (lately) is usually better than Ukraine's, there's an economic boom, construction everywhere and they've got a president that's getting things done.

Also, team Ukraine's always talking about how Ukranians are so smart. Really? Ukraine's in Europe, the industrial revolution happened not too far away, Ukraine literally got the answers to the test and still managed to fail, how smart can they be? At least the Philippines can say they're at the edge of the world, about as far away from the birthplace of the industrial revolution as you can get in the old world, anyhow. And even with that drawback, the Philippines still used to have a pretty decent lifestyle a couple of decades back before they fell into their current economic malaise.

Also, the guys that have actually lived there frequently comment on the Ukranians' general pessimism, in complete contrast to Filipinos being known for their optimism. Who wants to live around a bunch of sad sacks? Not me. Like seeks like, I suppose.

What's Ukraine doing? Fighting with themselves over a frigid wasteland no one wants to be in except for horny Turks?

The Philippines also exports nurses and caretakers to the rest of the world, that's pretty cool. What does the Ukraine export? Turks a little less horny than they were when they got there? I don't know, I can't think of a single Ukrainian export other than Turkish nutsacks that weigh a little less than the ones in Turkey.

Anyhow, I like Filipinas, the ones I've dated have been really nice, educated, humble, and gorgeous.

Also, nothing against any Ukranians here, I'm just fighting fire with fire.

#teamPhilippines #teamAsia

Excellent post that calls it as it is. Now I have never been to the Phils but have been to Ukraine and after my second visit to Kiev - the novelty of dealing with ice cold princesses and banging groupie sluts just wore off. And that was back in 2012. Judging by the posts on this forum and accounts from friends, it has got a lot worse. It's not quite Poland but it is getting there.

As for the Turks and Arabs, those guys dominate the P4P and sponsorship market so I never viewed them as anything but a slight inconvenience.

Post: #75

(02-18-2018 02:57 AM)xai Wrote:  

(02-17-2018 10:34 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  Ukraine is frigid and has a very high divorce rate, it is not a traditional country, it's a broken country.

Also, Ukranian girls have big tits that get worse when they get pregnant and even worse when they get old.

Also, Ukrainian girls have these really sharp faces, like a witch in a children's book, think Soros, not soft at all.

Also, they're pale, when someone is that pale, you can see their veins through their skin, I'm sure some guys are into it, but not everyone is, and they also age terribly unless you keep them in a dark refrigerator and I don't want to live in a dark refrigerator.

You can see moles, birthmarks, and any imperfections on their skin from a mile away.

Also, their butts are like pancakes. White, pasty pancakes.

The guy complaining about a cockroach here and there in the Philippines, there aren't as many bugs in the Ukraine because everything is dead!
The Ukraine is literally a dead land for almost half the year, it's that cold, it's so cold you could be a human popsicle stick if your power went out over there.

Also, the Philippines' GDP growth rate (lately) is usually better than Ukraine's, there's an economic boom, construction everywhere and they've got a president that's getting things done.

Also, team Ukraine's always talking about how Ukranians are so smart. Really? Ukraine's in Europe, the industrial revolution happened not too far away, Ukraine literally got the answers to the test and still managed to fail, how smart can they be? At least the Philippines can say they're at the edge of the world, about as far away from the birthplace of the industrial revolution as you can get in the old world, anyhow. And even with that drawback, the Philippines still used to have a pretty decent lifestyle a couple of decades back before they fell into their current economic malaise.

Also, the guys that have actually lived there frequently comment on the Ukranians' general pessimism, in complete contrast to Filipinos being known for their optimism. Who wants to live around a bunch of sad sacks? Not me. Like seeks like, I suppose.

What's Ukraine doing? Fighting with themselves over a frigid wasteland no one wants to be in except for horny Turks?

The Philippines also exports nurses and caretakers to the rest of the world, that's pretty cool. What does the Ukraine export? Turks a little less horny than they were when they got there? I don't know, I can't think of a single Ukrainian export other than Turkish nutsacks that weigh a little less than the ones in Turkey.

Anyhow, I like Filipinas, the ones I've dated have been really nice, educated, humble, and gorgeous.

Also, nothing against any Ukranians here, I'm just fighting fire with fire.

#teamPhilippines #teamAsia

I like this guy Better then the male feminists that were coming in here earlier and putting Ukrainian girls on some pedestal

Even a male feminist dressed as a Ballerina is likely to have more success than you in Ukraine, based on your perceptions