Post: #326

47% of mass shootings have been by Immigrants either 1st or 2nd generation.

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2018-0...#read_more

Yet they want to disarm heritage Americans.

Post: #327

How many MSM outlets have reported that the shooter was Jewish?

Post: #328

Still haven't heard a single word about why the teen who was expelled from the school and banned from campus was able to walk through the front door with a rifle and bag full of magazines. Or motive. Or whether he acquired the guns legally. Or how this lunatic even afforded ten guns. Or how his shitty adoptive family is somehow innocent in all this. Or the failings of the FBI. Or the failings of child protective services when he told them he was cutting himself and was going to buy a gun.

Actually, I haven't heard fucking anything about the shooter.

Nope, relentless propaganda that's been sitting ready to go. Ban assault weapons. Raise the age limit which is hilarious since you can vote on the leader of the nation, get drafted to go die in a war, smoke, work, have your earnings taxed, and drive a 20 ton death machine all at 18. And since there is no common factor of age in mass shootings. That vegas faggot sure wasn't 19 years old. Also nevermind that he was looking up islam propaganda on how to build a bomb and had smoke grenades and a gas mask. Nope, without guns murder cannot happen.

The propaganda is relentless, my local media will not shut the fuck up about this, is the average person going to be able to mentally stand up to this war of attrition over the years, every time the FBI lets a mass shooting happen?

Post: #329

(02-21-2018 04:53 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The sad fact about the conspiracy theories from here back to JFK is that from this point on it really doesn't matter if they're true or not.

Someone could massacre 100 kids and leave a solid trail of evidence a mile long that makes it utterly clear that they were either a lone wolf attacker OR a deep state pawn.

Like I said in the Trump thread. At this point the battle lines have all but hardened. Nobody is interested in the evidence, and sadly that's with good cause.

Let's imagine you're a liberal. You have a conservative neighbour with whom you share a mutual hatred and have exchanged mutual death threats. One day someone shoots up your house and you assume it's your neighbour, but an investigation clears him because he had an alibi. Do you give a shit? Of course not. You want that motherfucker's guns confiscated, NOW!

On the flip side. You're a conservative and you have a liberal neighbour with whom you share mutual death threats. One day your neighbours house gets shot up. You suspect that your neighbour might have done it himself as a pretext to have you disarmed but you don't know for sure. Your neighbour is apparently pissed and is also apparently certain you're to blame. He wants the police to take your guns. Do you offer them up? HELL NO! You just KNOW that sonofabitch is going to come shank you the second you're unarmed!

At this point in history nobody believes anybody on the other side is acting in good faith. Dialogue is over. Evidence is over. Bipartisanship is over. All that's left is propaganda and war, in itself or by other means.

Don't give up your guns if 10 kids are killed or 100 or 1000. God forbid there are actual deep state agents killing kids, the second you give up something meaningful in recompense they will kill ten times as many to extract ten times the recompense.

I say again. The answer to the left is that you will not give up your guns to a political opponent who has repeatedly made it clear that they want you and everyone like you DEAD!

Correct and now that you have identified the problem perhaps you can cease the ridiculous emotiveness of your posts and the ridiculous capitalization and bolding and take a step back towards rationality. I don't expect much considering the ridiculous conspiracy theories you're peddling but anyway for your own personal development I suggest you come back to the sane side

The left/right dichotomy is a simplified analysis, meaningless political posturing. The Democrats don't actually want gun control or else they would have brought in ground measures but a sizeable number of democrats voted against it.

That said I hope everyone is in agreement that no individual should be in possession of nuclear weapons or tanks. The next step perhaps would be to revisit that line.

Ultimately every civilized nation has gun laws that are similar except the USA and don't give me crap about the 'second amendment'. It was written in a bygone era by people who thought slavery was morally justifiable.

Post: #330

(02-21-2018 06:27 PM)DragonsandTigers Wrote:  Ultimately every civilized nation has gun laws that are similar except the USA and don't give me crap about the 'second amendment'. It was written in a bygone era by people who thought slavery was morally justifiable.

You literally just lost any leg you were standing on to argue, and showed how foolish you really are.

Kindly go back to Huffington Post you soy boy.

Post: #331

MSM addressing the crisis actor 'CONSPIRACYYY#^&%.' All with big red letters plastered across the screen.

I've never given the crisis actor concept the time of day, but that might change now. I don't know what to believe, but based on my experience over the last several years - if you believe the opposite of what the MSM says you're more right than wrong.

Come to think of it, I think a lot of normies are following this train of thought too over the past couple of years...

Post: #332

Hold on guys. Let's all remember that DragonsandTigers here is our intellectual superior and he talks to us as such.

Apparently he is sane and we arent.

Telling us every "civilized civilization" has gun control laws and that the people who wrote the second amendment were from a bygone era isn't a sane arguement.

Neither does the guilt by association attempt of"those people thought slavery was morally justified" disqualify the second amendment as valid and important to our rights.

For thousand of years people thought slavery was morally justifiable for every reason under the sun. Does that we mean we need to throw away Hammurabi's Code of Law? The wisdom from the classics? Sun Tzus Art Of War?

Truth or the actions we should take doesn't lie with the majority. Just because a majority of people apparently think we can change our gender at will, doesnt mean we can.

You really want to argue what's morally justified based on appeal to the majority?

Post: #333

(02-21-2018 06:27 PM)DragonsandTigers Wrote:  Ultimately every civilized nation has gun laws that are similar except the USA and don't give me crap about the 'second amendment'. It was written in a bygone era by people who thought slavery was morally justifiable.

Post: #334

(02-21-2018 06:43 PM)kamoz Wrote:  I've never given the crisis actor concept the time of day, but that might change now. I don't know what to believe, but based on my experience over the last several years - if you believe the opposite of what the MSM says you're more right than wrong.

Come to think of it, I think a lot of normies are following this train of thought too over the past couple of years...

The alternative perspective would be: what you're describing is the point of CNN's stupidity. Now you feel more alone and isolated from the reality than ever.

Remember these AntiFag demonstrations:



Maybe they were actually trying to articulate their plan. And further to this line of thought, the fact that the SPLC labeled RoK a "hate" group and the MSM is now reporting it everywhere is likely to drive traffic to the site, not away from it. As in, it's sufficiently been identified as a lazy right-wing site that can increase the divisive dialectics and further erode "govern-ability" and justify further State advance.

Post: #335

(02-21-2018 06:54 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  You really want to argue what's morally justified based on appeal to the majority?

People like dragonsandtigers would prefer to argue what’s morally justified by making appeals to emotion. (I.e. what about the children?/think of the children.)

Post: #336

(02-21-2018 07:31 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

(02-21-2018 06:54 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  You really want to argue what's morally justified based on appeal to the majority?

People like dragonsandtigers would prefer to argue what’s morally justified by making appeals to emotion. (I.e. what about the children?/think of the children.)

LOL. Please demonstrate the way you "argue" about morality.

He even correctly called it emotivism. LOL.

Post: #337

(02-21-2018 07:19 PM)Different T Wrote:  

(02-21-2018 06:43 PM)kamoz Wrote:  I've never given the crisis actor concept the time of day, but that might change now. I don't know what to believe, but based on my experience over the last several years - if you believe the opposite of what the MSM says you're more right than wrong.

Come to think of it, I think a lot of normies are following this train of thought too over the past couple of years...

The alternative perspective would be: what you're describing is the point of CNN's stupidity. Now you feel more alone and isolated from the reality than ever.

Remember these AntiFag demonstrations:

Maybe they were actually trying to articulate their plan. And further to this line of thought, the fact that the SPLC labeled RoK a "hate" group and the MSM is now reporting it everywhere is likely to drive traffic to the site, not away from it. As in, it's sufficiently been identified as a lazy right-wing site that can increase the divisive dialectics and further erode "govern-ability" and justify further State advance.

True and I have considered that. However one must also consider that this is an enormous propaganda effort. They cannot accommodate for every single individual's line of thinking. What makes the most sense is to target the majority. Just like everything else, a bell curve applies and we are on the 'right' side of that bell curve in a minority (albeit growing). As a result our perspective will be different the majority.

What this means is that what you mentioned is more likely to be overthinking than what is going on. I think we are most likely looking at damage control. We also have to keep in mind that the deep state exerts their control indirectly. That's the price you have to pay to keep your identity hidden. Unlike in Soviet Russia where the government had a direct line to Pravda, but everyone knew who was pulling the strings.

Post: #338

(02-21-2018 07:38 PM)kamoz Wrote:  True and I have considered that. However one must also consider that this is an enormous propaganda effort. They cannot accommodate for every single individual's line of thinking. What makes the most sense is to target the majority. Just like everything else, a bell curve applies and we are on the 'right' side of that bell curve in a minority (albeit growing). As a result our perspective will be different the majority.

What this means is that what you mentioned is more likely to be overthinking than what is going on. I think we are most likely looking at damage control. We also have to keep in mind that the deep state exerts their control indirectly. That's the price you have to pay to keep your identity hidden. Unlike in Soviet Russia where the government had a direct line to Pravda, but everyone knew who was pulling the strings.

The alternative perspective is: it clearly is "an enormous propaganda effort." CNN, et. al. are (probably literally) (((globalist))) cum guzzlers. But they are also reactionary.

There is an entire military doctrine developed by the Soviets for dealing with their likes: Reflexive control.

Again:

Post: #339

(02-21-2018 04:38 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(02-21-2018 12:25 AM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  

Interesting theory and guess what - the demolition of the school has been decided - heh heh:

http://www.businessinsider.com/marjory-s...018-2?IR=T

Quote:The building where the Florida school shooting took place will be torn down

Guess Uncle Sam has all the taxpayer money in the world. Couldn't they sell it and get a few million out of it? Nah - it must be destroyed.

Would not surprise me if the story above is true.

I guess I've been living under a rock - but apparently Sandy Hook was demolished, and there are plans to do so for the church in Chareston (if it hasn't already)??

Apparently the owner of Pulse Nightclub vowed to re-open but the MSM were quick to attack:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati.../85890036/

Quote:Pulse owner vows to reopen nightclub. Is it a good idea?

Seems strange, especially since the media pushes people so hard to 'continue living their lives normally' amidst terrorism, and 'not to give into fear.' And of course the whole 'WE WILL REBUILD' after natural disasters. Following that train of thought, re-opening a nightclub or school would make sense, but apparently that's not desired. Hmmm...

Post: #340

Little Marco Rubio has some balls. Showed up for a CNN Town Hall meeting with students from the Parkland Highschool. Getting drilled but holding his own.

Post: #341

Oh boy! Crisis actors. Check out David Hogg.

Post: #342

Heartiste has quite the post on this today:

CH Wrote:More suspicious details about David Hogg that lend credence to the claim he’s a hired crisis actor tasked with pushing a major social movement to repeal the 2nd Amendment:

Hogg works for John Podesta’s Center for American Progress
From that same link, an antifa member claims Hogg didn’t go to Parkland HS; he went to school with him at Redondo Shores HS in California
Hogg really is the son of an FBI agent
Most hilariously, Hogg is seen feeding shitlib boilerplate scripted lines to a “schoolmate” in a video “interview” he supposedly shot “during” the Cruz shooting.

Very strange that the closet interview video is supposedly filmed around 9:30 (they say so in the video) and the shooting occurred at 2:20, according to the Sheriff's Ofiice.

Post: #343

(02-21-2018 10:28 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  Heartiste has quite the post on this today:

CH Wrote:More suspicious details about David Hogg that lend credence to the claim he’s a hired crisis actor tasked with pushing a major social movement to repeal the 2nd Amendment:

Hogg works for John Podesta’s Center for American Progress
From that same link, an antifa member claims Hogg didn’t go to Parkland HS; he went to school with him at Redondo Shores HS in California
Hogg really is the son of an FBI agent
Most hilariously, Hogg is seen feeding shitlib boilerplate scripted lines to a “schoolmate” in a video “interview” he supposedly shot “during” the Cruz shooting.

Very strange that the closet interview video is supposedly filmed around 9:30 (they say so in the video) and the shooting occurred at 2:20, according to the Sheriff's Ofiice.

The Redondo thing was debunked, and the Twitter account that started it was posting photoshopped pics. Amazing that memes posted on Twitter with zero evidence or sources, just photoshopped screenshots, are held to such high regard.

It was an antifa account based in Russia (per the accounts location on twitter) .. . But most likely isn't even real antifa probably just a complete troll.

I get that nobody trusts the mainstream media, but you have to hold these anonymous twitter/4chan/whatever sources to the same level of scrutiny as you do the media.

Let's be real, if that antifa account posted anything going against what you wanted it to say, nobody on the right would have even given it an ounce of faith, and rightfully so .

Post: #344

But what's the explanation for the 9:30 time in the video?

Post: #345

I haven't had time to fact check or look into every aspect, maybe he is a crisis actor, I'm just pointing out that the Redondo thing is bullshit unless more evidence surfaces, and we need to be suspicious of every claim.

If this were a setup, I'm sure the people doing it would float all kinds of bogus claims for people to pick up so they could be easily discredited.

Post: #346

I agree with being suspicious. Check out the video posted here and see what you think:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2018/02/...g-on-tape/

One theory proposed is that the video was actually filmed earlier in the day during a shooter drill.

Post: #347

Fake news or legitimate communist propaganda. It hardly matters except to avoid looking like a buffoon by spreading it yourself and being called out.

CNN is the agitprop-pimp that cried wolf. If people now believe they're hiring sociopathic manchildren to play school shooting survivors then so be it. Don't get squeamish. By the time this is all done most of us will have done far worse things than unjustly discrediting an otherwise traitorous organisation. You don't have to peddle a lie, but neither are you obligated to discredit it. They sure as hell wouldn't extend such honourable conduct to us.

Post: #348

(02-21-2018 10:40 PM)Repo Wrote:  

(02-21-2018 10:28 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  Heartiste has quite the post on this today:

CH Wrote:More suspicious details about David Hogg that lend credence to the claim he’s a hired crisis actor tasked with pushing a major social movement to repeal the 2nd Amendment:

Hogg works for John Podesta’s Center for American Progress
From that same link, an antifa member claims Hogg didn’t go to Parkland HS; he went to school with him at Redondo Shores HS in California
Hogg really is the son of an FBI agent
Most hilariously, Hogg is seen feeding shitlib boilerplate scripted lines to a “schoolmate” in a video “interview” he supposedly shot “during” the Cruz shooting.

Very strange that the closet interview video is supposedly filmed around 9:30 (they say so in the video) and the shooting occurred at 2:20, according to the Sheriff's Ofiice.

The Redondo thing was debunked,

Experience tells me that when people claim something controversial has been "debunked" there's about a 99% chance it hasn't been.

Please post the "debunking" so we can make up our own minds.

Post: #349

Ben Shapiro channeling Little Dark:

Post: #350

(((Tim Wise)))