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(02-05-2018 08:16 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  What belief systems do Christian nations have to refuse refuse entry to non-Christians or regulate the rise of Atheism or other belief systems within their nations.

How can Christianity be the answer if it got us here in the first place?

I wouldn't say Christianity got us here in the first place. Catholicism, for example, is often credited as being responsible for the massive drag on social progress people pointed to as explaining the SouthAm doldrums ever since the Conquistadors landed. That's mainly because historically it refused to change. You would not have recognised it prior to Vatican II, it was more like a medieval or late medieval kingship than a faith: stubborn demands of obedience to Rome, insistent upon Catholic baptism for the forgiveness of sins and accepting no other. It was welcoming to all people, but it also didn't brook religious multiculturalism and it demanded absolute conversion with no looking back. Remember the Spanish Inquisition was, first, an effort to root out crypto-Judaism, i.e. to find those assholes who'd converted to Christianity but were still carrying out Jewish rituals in secret.

I always chuckle when they call guys like JP 2 and Benedict XVI "conservative" Popes. Those people don't know their history. There's a reason most of the sedevacantists hold up St. Pius X or so as the last example of a solid Pope: because he was the last hardcore son of a bitch who was determined to keep moral relativism out of the church, and who saw the error and threat of modernism for what it was. That's just over one hundred years ago, 1884 - 1914, a blip on the radar of an institution that's lasted 2000 years or so.

Christianity has a strong capacity to bend to the will of the society it inhabits. When there's a big enough economic disaster or war, people's attitudes will change too, and with it, they'll demand a Christianity that reflects their attitudes. That Christianity will be patriarchal in a world where men and women will have to contend with robots for their jobs.

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(02-05-2018 08:45 AM)Fortis Wrote:  Race? Definitely. War brides from other countries have been giving dudes happa kids since times immemorial. I suspect it has more to do with the culture you raise happas under and less to do with their DNA. Shit, I mean, I'm technically Black and White, but raised black and I have 0 identity issues because I was never told anything else.

America is a reasonable example of this. If you bring your non-European kid to America and raise him as an American he'll probably slip right into listening to rock, driving fast cars and all the other American things.

Nation? Yes if you require that all immigrants take on your culture and your rules it seems to work out. China does this reasonably well. The immigrants here enjoy a good life as long as they don't fuck around with the Government.

Political structure? I'm not really sure. What would an inclusive political structure entail? Do you mean a political structure that allows more than 1 viewpoint or do you mean something else? I need more info.

Every one of the accounts of dysfunctional mixed-race children I have read is the result of race fetishism on the part of the parents rather than a marriage based on genuine love and character.

Eliminate the race fetishism and there will be far fewer interracial marriages and children but they would be far more functional.
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In a few months, Cape Town will run out of water.

Mexico City and Delhi has the same looming problem.

The wall(s) better be in place before the latter two.
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(02-06-2018 05:17 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  Every one of the accounts of dysfunctional mixed-race children I have read is the result of race fetishism on the part of the parents rather than a marriage based on genuine love and character.

Eliminate the race fetishism and there will be far fewer interracial marriages and children but they would be far more functional.

It's probably impossible to condition human behavior in some way that this doesn't happen in a multicultural and a multiracial society. Natural in group preferences in all races means that people who prefer the out group are by definition unusual. There's even a cultural agenda to push certain interracial pairings in media. We all know about the google result search biases etc..

This type of relation will always have some fetishism.

I do meet some perfectly functional mixed race people but usually there's always still some underlying psychological issues. Either they overcompensate in order to identify with one race or on the opposite end they are completely nihilistic in their worldview.
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(02-06-2018 12:33 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  In a few months, Cape Town will run out of water.

Mexico City and Delhi has the same looming problem.

The wall(s) better be in place before the latter two.

In Delhi they will invent a machine which will suck up all the street shit, condensate it, and then turn it into potable water.
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(02-03-2018 06:41 PM)bojangles Wrote:  However the Hindu, Sikh and Jewish populations remained pretty constant. The latter 3 rarely push for any cultural or political changes because they are happy being small minorities.

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(02-07-2018 04:52 AM)Super_Fire Wrote:  
(02-03-2018 06:41 PM)bojangles Wrote:  However the Hindu, Sikh and Jewish populations remained pretty constant. The latter 3 rarely push for any cultural or political changes because they are happy being small minorities.

Yeah?

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The Rothschilds owned the Churchills, and you know what that entailed.

Woah!

Missed that gem from Bojangles (who is usually on point).
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(01-30-2018 12:28 PM)Raylan Givens Wrote:  Over the long term any institution (political, cultural, or religious) cannot survive with inclusiveness and multiculturalism. Competing ethnic, racial, and cultural groups will tear it apart.

Furthermore unless an organization is explicitly right wing in orientation and steadfast in it's fidelity to the founding stock it will whither and die. Some people say it is possible so long as we "enforce the law" but how can you do that when jurisprudence is tied very closely to racial and cultural origins. As soon as America started opening her doors to people who do not understand or appreciate Anglo-Saxon legal tradition it was inevitable that the constitution would be rendered null and void. The further you get from Anglo-Saxon thought the harder it will be to assimilate those people. Italians, Poles, and Slavs are at least European and Western so they have some grasp of the tradition in which the American legal and political system sprang up from, unlike Indians, Somalis, or Arabs.

Christianity was a poison pill for the West from the start being a multicultural, universalist religion. Religions need to spring organically from a race of people and are reflections of the unique folksoul of those people. There is a reason Christianity was warped to near unrecognizableness when it came to Europa, we needed a religion we could understand. Christianity was morphed from a esoteric peace cult founded by a rebellious Jew to a warrior cult focused on the cultivation of martial and manly virtues. The religion of Charlemagne, Richard the Lionheart, and Vlad the Impaler was not the religion preached by Jesus in the desert ancient Judea. As Christianity's center shifts southeastern it will change once again.

All of this sounds nice to someone who has never read the Bible. But to anyone who has read it can easily recognize your nonsense.

Jesus was never a pacifist.

Quote:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

40 He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

And long before Charlemagne, was another man who brought Christ with a sword...

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The benefits of Christianity were to bring balance to an unmerciful world. Jesus was not an extremist but actually quite moderate in all things. He adovocated charity but not cucking (he talks ill of robbers many times), being righteous no matter the amount of hate you recieve, and violence as a last resort not as a means to dominate others but instead to create love and freedom.

It was the world of Christ that preserved the last of the Roman empire as its inhabitants died off from decadence, with a new Christian faith proving itself against the test of time.

It's easier to be a Christian today than at any other point. "Ye shall know them by their fruits," and we can see the fruits of Christianity everywhere the White man settled and traveled. We can see Ethiopia as one of the greatest countries in Africa (the first to adopt Christianity) - the only ones to resist colonization, the ones with the most beautiful black women, and one of the strongest all-Black economies in the world despite being landlocked. Everywhere Christianity has taken root has resulted in nothing but good things.

But remember, to be a Christian one must believe in Christ - he was the Son of Man who died for our sins - and redeeming yourself through his teachings is what will save you, and create a better world to come. We've seen this process in action for 2000 years, yet how many fools will stay in denial?

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(02-07-2018 02:15 PM)Samseau Wrote:  34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

That quote has nothing to do with war or peace. It is a warning that when you follow him the road won't get easier, it will get harder.

Sword is only a metaphor for difficulty.

Obviously he came for peace.

He was only saying there would be plenty of resistance along the way.

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Again, and for the thousandth time, it doesn't matter what specific quotes people dig out of the Bible to explain why 2.3 billion cucks are "getting it wrong". As Forest Gump said, stupid is as stupid does. Christianity is proving daily that it doesn't contain a strong enough defense mechanism to survive in a world with mass international transit, high production per capita (charity complex) and a (((mega-rich superpredator))) hunting from the shadows.

It is what it is, not what it is "supposed to be".
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(02-07-2018 06:27 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Again, and for the thousandth time, it doesn't matter what specific quotes people dig out of the Bible to explain why 2.3 billion cucks are "getting it wrong". As Forest Gump said, stupid is as stupid does. Christianity is proving daily that it doesn't contain a strong enough defense mechanism to survive in a world with mass international transit, high production per capita (charity complex) and a (((mega-rich superpredator))) hunting from the shadows.

It is what it is, not what it is "supposed to be".

Christianity was a product changed over time. Of course it had very martial and strict rules for a long time or it would not have survived as a culture. Fighting the heathens was a strong motivation for Christians for millennia.

If Islam had been created by Rumi based on his fantastic books and a peaceful saint, then the Rumi-Muslims would have somewhat shifted it anyway towards a more warrior-spirit in order to survive. Though it would be certainly different from what has happened after following Mohammed.
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(02-05-2018 08:57 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 08:16 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  What belief systems do Christian nations have to refuse refuse entry to non-Christians or regulate the rise of Atheism or other belief systems within their nations.

How can Christianity be the answer if it got us here in the first place?

I wouldn't say Christianity got us here in the first place. Catholicism, for example, is often credited as being responsible for the massive drag on social progress people pointed to as explaining the SouthAm doldrums ever since the Conquistadors landed. That's mainly because historically it refused to change. You would not have recognised it prior to Vatican II, it was more like a medieval or late medieval kingship than a faith: stubborn demands of obedience to Rome, insistent upon Catholic baptism for the forgiveness of sins and accepting no other. It was welcoming to all people, but it also didn't brook religious multiculturalism and it demanded absolute conversion with no looking back. Remember the Spanish Inquisition was, first, an effort to root out crypto-Judaism, i.e. to find those assholes who'd converted to Christianity but were still carrying out Jewish rituals in secret.

I always chuckle when they call guys like JP 2 and Benedict XVI "conservative" Popes. Those people don't know their history. There's a reason most of the sedevacantists hold up St. Pius X or so as the last example of a solid Pope: because he was the last hardcore son of a bitch who was determined to keep moral relativism out of the church, and who saw the error and threat of modernism for what it was. That's just over one hundred years ago, 1884 - 1914, a blip on the radar of an institution that's lasted 2000 years or so.

Christianity has a strong capacity to bend to the will of the society it inhabits. When there's a big enough economic disaster or war, people's attitudes will change too, and with it, they'll demand a Christianity that reflects their attitudes. That Christianity will be patriarchal in a world where men and women will have to contend with robots for their jobs.

It's kind of a chicken or the egg question, but I think the reason northern Europe embraced the Protestant denominations is the the same genetic reason they were more successful. It's not that Catholicism held back Southern Europe. Even today when you look at maps showing patent applications, books published, GDP, etc, the difference between the Germanic countries and Southern Europe is shocking. However you can see a massive difference within Italy - Southern Italy is far behind and they share Catholicism.
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(02-07-2018 08:34 PM)Thomas Jackson Wrote:  It's kind of a chicken or the egg question, but I think the reason northern Europe embraced the Protestant denominations is the the same genetic reason they were more successful. It's not that Catholicism held back Southern Europe. Even today when you look at maps showing patent applications, books published, GDP, etc, the difference between the Germanic countries and Southern Europe is shocking. However you can see a massive difference within Italy - Southern Italy is far behind and they share Catholicism.

The difference in productive output or lack thereof in countries like Italy is only recent. Italians had been dominant and productive in Roman times and in the last centuries with Venice, Medicis and other achievements.

I will agree that protestant Christianity is more productive because it stresses the importance of worldly success, but Bavaria was 90%+ Catholic and they clearly had tremendous output in the recent century.

High-stage development is a tricky thing - climate and the ease of life, lifestyle and elite investments in education play a large role. If Italy had had a leader like Bismarck around 1860, then they would be at a different stage. Also if they had adopted air-conditioners as in the South of the USA, then this would have tremendously boosted their output (instead of retaining a siesta-lifestyle).

Some of output differences at higher stages is the Hawaii dilemma - "Why bother? I am living in paradise already?"

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(02-07-2018 06:27 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Again, and for the thousandth time, it doesn't matter what specific quotes people dig out of the Bible to explain why 2.3 billion cucks are "getting it wrong". As Forest Gump said, stupid is as stupid does. Christianity is proving daily that it doesn't contain a strong enough defense mechanism to survive in a world with mass international transit, high production per capita (charity complex) and a (((mega-rich superpredator))) hunting from the shadows.

It is what it is, not what it is "supposed to be".

Protestantism doesn't.

Traditional Catholicism (pre-1965) does.

Protestant work ethic existed long before Protestantism; it was introduced to the Germans arguably by the Benedictines. Protestantism and its many off-shoots is a form of Judaism; that is, they wanted to claim Christianity but engage in usury, and thus create modern, usurious capitalism, a predatory Jewish financial system.

Of course they got rich off that, but the work ethic was already there. The only organized force that has successfully stood up to (((them))) over the last 2,000 years has been the Catholic Church, though. Time to take the best of these different cultures.
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People don't realize that some Sicilians and Southern Italians are straight up arabs. As in literal, genetic arabs, who converted to christianity. Low class southern Italians sounds and looks remarkably like arabia. Go watch Gomorra and tell me you're not watching a series about arab gangs.
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(02-08-2018 05:04 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  People don't realize that some Sicilians and Southern Italians are straight up arabs. As in literal, genetic arabs, who converted to christianity. Low class southern Italians sounds and looks remarkably like arabia. Go watch Gomorra and tell me you're not watching a series about arab gangs.

It's part of a shepherd tribal culture too. Spaniards are probably even more Arabic in terms of looks and genes. But alas as with the Arabs - the genes are not that problematic. Stop the shitty inbreeding at levels of 50%, stop the Ramadan fasting during pregnancy and the low vitamin D levels for women and you easily breach a 10-15 point IQ gap to Caucasians.

The Spanish despite having been constantly raped for centuries turned around and became the absolute dominating force in Europe and the world for a while. They also ushered in modern civilization by bringing Europe the potato and other tasty nutrient-dense food from the Americas.
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(02-07-2018 02:51 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:15 PM)Samseau Wrote:  34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

That quote has nothing to do with war or peace. It is a warning that when you follow him the road won't get easier, it will get harder.

Sword is only a metaphor for difficulty.

Obviously he came for peace.

He was only saying there would be plenty of resistance along the way.

Not only does your interpretation make no sense given the rest of the passage I quoted, as the sword clearly marks division, not difficulty, but Jesus also told his disciples to buy a sword at one point so they could defend themselves as the day of his arrest was coming:

Luke 22:36

Quote:He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.

The idea that Jesus was a pacifist is contradicted by at least 3 passages I can think off the top of my head (don't forget the money changers in the temple), but also Christians who followed him justified violence and war in every single age, from Rome to Byzantine to Catholic to Protestant times.

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(02-07-2018 06:27 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Again, and for the thousandth time, it doesn't matter what specific quotes people dig out of the Bible to explain why 2.3 billion cucks are "getting it wrong". As Forest Gump said, stupid is as stupid does. Christianity is proving daily that it doesn't contain a strong enough defense mechanism to survive in a world with mass international transit, high production per capita (charity complex) and a (((mega-rich superpredator))) hunting from the shadows.

It is what it is, not what it is "supposed to be".

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Christianity is surviving better than almost any other cultural force in the age of mass transit, production, and Jews.

Look at the traditional cultures of India, Asia, Africa - all gone or rapidly disappearing.

Christians were actually among the most skeptical of Jews because of Chrysostom's - Against the Jews - influence back in the 3rd-4th century. That Christians have turned away from the wisdom of what made them great are among the reasons they are suffering in today's age.

Christianity has proven itself to be one of the most resistant forces against (((globalization))) in the world, while globalizing in its own way - ushering in elections of leaders like Trump, Orban, and PiS (polish conservatives), while simultaneously making huge gains in Asia and Africa.

Meanwhile, your pathetic atheist countries are bending over while grabbing their ankles, as they get destroyed by globalists and their pet muslims. To attack Christianity is just a pure denial of reality at this point.

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People like to call themselves protestants but ignore Luther writing "On the jews and their lies". Did he do that for the fun of it?

I'm seeing so many heretic christians with their zionist agenda. They are judaizers and living in sin. Not only living in sin, but being heretics.
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(02-07-2018 06:27 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Again, and for the thousandth time, it doesn't matter what specific quotes people dig out of the Bible to explain why 2.3 billion cucks are "getting it wrong". As Forest Gump said, stupid is as stupid does. Christianity is proving daily that it doesn't contain a strong enough defense mechanism to survive in a world with mass international transit, high production per capita (charity complex) and a (((mega-rich superpredator))) hunting from the shadows.

It is what it is, not what it is "supposed to be".

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Christianity is surviving better than almost any other cultural force in the age of mass transit, production, and Jews.

Look at the traditional cultures of India, Asia, Africa - all gone or rapidly disappearing.

Christians were actually among the most skeptical of Jews because of Chrysostom's - Against the Jews - influence back in the 3rd-4th century. That Christians have turned away from the wisdom of what made them great are among the reasons they are suffering in today's age.

Christianity has proven itself to be one of the most resistant forces against (((globalization))) in the world, while globalizing in its own way - ushering in elections of leaders like Trump, Orban, and PiS (polish conservatives), while simultaneously making huge gains in Asia and Africa.

Meanwhile, your pathetic atheist countries are bending over while grabbing their ankles, as they get destroyed by globalists and their pet muslims. To attack Christianity is just a pure denial of reality at this point.

[Image: FT_16.11.09_Relig_ExitPoll_ReligRace.png]

What's with all the Hispanic Catholics voting Clinton then? Blacks are 79% Christian. How did that work out? And on what planet was Candidate Trump, of all people, running as a religious man?

Things are what they are, not what you want to imagine them to be. Religion was barely touched during the campaign, in part because Trump was clearly no holy man, had no religious credentials and was smart enough not to try to pretend otherwise.

The votes could obviously be tracked more effectively by race than religion, but clearly you have a conflicting narrative to push.
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Guys, atheistic Darwinism is not the way to go, and neither are forms of Christianity which are in league with (((them))) or pretend (((they))) don't exist.

If a government is the body, then the traditional church is the soul; without it, there's no moral code to prevent the government from preying on its own people.
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(02-08-2018 05:04 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  People don't realize that some Sicilians and Southern Italians are straight up arabs. As in literal, genetic arabs, who converted to christianity. Low class southern Italians sounds and looks remarkably like arabia. Go watch Gomorra and tell me you're not watching a series about arab gangs.

Sicily is the definition of a polyglot culture, mainly because it's been run over by one large empire after another: first the Greeks, then the Arabs, and then the fucking Normans, i.e. the Vikings, under Roger Guiscard, which is why you've got some blonde, blue-eyed Sicilians. Even the British and the French got in there before it eventually fell under Italian control through Naples. And the place has never really gotten off its ass mainly because each of those empires mismanaged it or let local elites run it into the ground: the definition of a Mediocristan.

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(02-08-2018 06:49 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 11:35 AM)Samseau Wrote:  ...
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(02-07-2018 06:27 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Again, and for the thousandth time, it doesn't matter what specific quotes people dig out of the Bible to explain why 2.3 billion cucks are "getting it wrong". As Forest Gump said, stupid is as stupid does. Christianity is proving daily that it doesn't contain a strong enough defense mechanism to survive in a world with mass international transit, high production per capita (charity complex) and a (((mega-rich superpredator))) hunting from the shadows.

It is what it is, not what it is "supposed to be".

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Christianity is surviving better than almost any other cultural force in the age of mass transit, production, and Jews.

Look at the traditional cultures of India, Asia, Africa - all gone or rapidly disappearing.

Christians were actually among the most skeptical of Jews because of Chrysostom's - Against the Jews - influence back in the 3rd-4th century. That Christians have turned away from the wisdom of what made them great are among the reasons they are suffering in today's age.

Christianity has proven itself to be one of the most resistant forces against (((globalization))) in the world, while globalizing in its own way - ushering in elections of leaders like Trump, Orban, and PiS (polish conservatives), while simultaneously making huge gains in Asia and Africa.

Meanwhile, your pathetic atheist countries are bending over while grabbing their ankles, as they get destroyed by globalists and their pet muslims. To attack Christianity is just a pure denial of reality at this point.

[Image: FT_16.11.09_Relig_ExitPoll_ReligRace.png]

What's with all the Hispanic Catholics voting Clinton then? Blacks are 79% Christian. How did that work out? And on what planet was Candidate Trump, of all people, running as a religious man?

Things are what they are, not what you want to imagine them to be. Religion was barely touched during the campaign, in part because Trump was clearly no holy man, had no religious credentials and was smart enough not to try to pretend otherwise.

The votes could obviously be tracked more effectively by race than religion, but clearly you have a conflicting narrative to push.

Because it's not enough to merely call oneself a Christian, or to simply state you believe Christ was the son of God.

You actually have to follow the basic teachings, 1. Love God and 2. Love your Neighbor as yourself.

What we see with the darker races is a far looser adherence to these commands, if at all. When 70% of American Blacks are born out of wedlock because the women are happy to collect welfare if they get impregnated and the men are willing to impregnate any female they can, consequences be damned, they are not practicing love of Neighbor.

Same is true of the "Catholic" countries in South America, or Philippines. Bastardization is off the charts, and bastards are the results of fallen morals in so many other ways. Jesus says that anyone who causes harm to a child basically gets a one-way ticket to hell.

So they can call themselves Christian, or whatever they want, but that doesn't make you a Christian. "Faith without works is dead." Can't just talk the talk, gotta walk the walk.

I've never heard of mass scale bastards being a problem in Ethiopia as much as I have heard about it in America. The Orthodox in Ethiopia are actually loving towards one another, and understand that having large families is detrimental to all.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34732609

Quote:In the capital, Addis Ababa, the fertility rate is estimated to be 1.7 - lower than the rate needed to keep the population steady.

Now the lack of a welfare state obviously helps to keep people responsible there, but how often do you hear of Orthodox Ethiopians migrating to White countries to breed like rabbits? Conversely I have heard of Islamic Ethiopians doing the population displacement thing.

Angola actually banned Islam five years ago: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...sques.html

Why can a third-world nation get it so much better than the first world? Being totally Christian definitely helps! Of course Angola is a mess in so many other ways, but in terms of Christian development the country is a baby. Ethiopia has been Christian for almost 2K years, Europe around 1.5K years, religions take centuries before you start seeing the big effects.

And that is why when you pull this foundation after relying upon it for thousands of years there will be serious consequences, such as the destruction of the family or zero resistance to invasion.

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(02-09-2018 01:39 AM)Samseau Wrote:  Angola actually banned Islam five years ago: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...sques.html

I am afraid that this is a myth:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37316749

Quote:The South Africa newspaper the Daily Maverick busted the myth shortly after it first emerged.

"No" it said "Angola has not 'banned Islam'. It's a little more complicated than that".

Many, including the Daily Mail, quoted Angola's Culture Minister Rosa Cruz e Silva as saying that mosques would be closed until further notice.

One detail, which gave the story more credence, was that the government had denied a Muslim group's applications for legal recognition.

This does appear to be correct.

It is what Mr Campos was referring to when he said that Islam was not recognised by the government.

However, it does not appear to be specifically anti-Muslim as a lot of other religious groups are also not recognised.

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Islam is the enemy of everything that is not Islam - including logic and science.

But Angola is such a bumfuck country of vast oil reserves and charging in some areas 100$ for a watermelon while many people live off 2$ per year - that you cannot expect them to do anything right.

Islam should be banned, but currently no one is doing it.
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(02-08-2018 09:27 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 05:04 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  People don't realize that some Sicilians and Southern Italians are straight up arabs. As in literal, genetic arabs, who converted to christianity. Low class southern Italians sounds and looks remarkably like arabia. Go watch Gomorra and tell me you're not watching a series about arab gangs.

Sicily is the definition of a polyglot culture, mainly because it's been run over by one large empire after another: first the Greeks, then the Arabs, and then the fucking Normans, i.e. the Vikings, under Roger Guiscard, which is why you've got some blonde, blue-eyed Sicilians. Even the British and the French got in there before it eventually fell under Italian control through Naples. And the place has never really gotten off its ass mainly because each of those empires mismanaged it or let local elites run it into the ground: the definition of a Mediocristan.

You forgot the Phoenicians/Cartagians somewhere in that timelime Smile

Yes, it's an extreme melting pot. As far as I know it was the Normanns who allowed the arabs to stay - if they converted to christianity. Thus, there are most likely genetic arabs living in Sicily today, though most are mixed into the local population I would guess. What is interesting, even muslims can be converted to christ by the sword.
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(02-09-2018 01:39 AM)Samseau Wrote:  ...

Because it's not enough to merely call oneself a Christian, or to simply state you believe Christ was the son of God.

You actually have to follow the basic teachings, 1. Love God and 2. Love your Neighbor as yourself.
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You have provided no evidence to counter my claim that the election of Trump was not due to a Christian resurgence, and you have seemingly reinforced my claim that racial factors were the prevalent issue.

After that there's a bunch of here-and-there stuff that I couldn't find to be tied to anything we were discussing. As usual you cap it off with prophesy absent evidence or correlating evidence and apply it to a vast timeline, so basically it's all emotionally driven conjecture. Whatever floats your boat, but I'd like this thread to stick to evidence based approaches thanks.

Quote:Religion in Japan is dominated by Shinto (the ethnic religion of the Japanese people) and by Buddhism. According to surveys carried out in 2006[1] and 2008,[2] less than 40% of the population of Japan identifies with an organised religion: around 35% are Buddhists, 3% to 4% are members of Shinto sects and derived religions, and from fewer than 1%[3][4][5] to 2.3% are Christians.[note 2]

^One of the safest and most sophisticated societies on the planet. < 3% Christian which according to you is not possible because without Christ they should be in the throes of primal savagery. But like Europe they simply underwent some changes and adapted over time to become better than they were before. No Christianity necessary, and proof positive that Western civilisation can live beyond Christianity if that's what it takes to survive.
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