(01-24-2018 01:13 PM)Samseau Wrote: Hard to blame Boomers when they didn't know any better.
I'd disagree. I observed how my parents and all my friend's parents acted over the years. The politicans, the media figures, older co-workers, teachers, caregivers. They were narcissistic arseholes of the highest order - the Millennials are lightweights by comparison. Nothing else existed to them outside their current desire, even their children's comfort and safety.
They chose to be so of their own free will. No-one 'tricked' them into anything.
A few of us Generation X'er's who are helping an abandoned Kid discussed our upbringings with him the other day, particularly the shared latchkey nature and the sensed lack of mattering to our parents: we were all abandoned to social causes; sins of sex, drugs and alcohol; or whatever the latest shiny toy was.
You make a good point. While the boomers had no real way to organize amongst themselves with technology, they still had a cultural heritage of the Bible and Constitution. They mostly ignored it in favor of selfish desires, and totally fucked over the civilization.
But this goes back to who raised them, and the "greatest generation" had a boatload of flaws as well. Turns out murdering millions of people in decades of wars wasn't something that was spiritually healthy either.
If we had to trace the chain of cause and effect, I think the corruption really started with WW1. Once America got conned into fighting that war, it started down the path of endless empire building and spiritual corruption of the men and people.
Think about it: America entered WW1 in 1917, loses 120K soldiers, passes female suffrage in 1920. People believed men were so bad and women would help govern wiser or whatever. Then once pandora's box was opened it started the endless tide of divorce rape and adultery in the 1940's, culminating in the baby boomer generation. And the cycle of selfish degeneracy has remained unbroken to this day.
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(01-26-2018 12:00 PM)Samseau Wrote: Think about it: America entered WW1 in 1917, loses 120K soldiers, passes female suffrage in 1920. People believed men were so bad and women would help govern wiser or whatever. Then once pandora's box was opened it started the endless tide of divorce rape and adultery in the 1940's, culminating in the baby boomer generation. And the cycle of selfish degeneracy has remained unbroken to this day.
WW1 really was the beginning of the end and it wasn't even America's fight. Wilson could have kept us out but there was a serious quid-pro-quo going on with England and other interests - the likes of which I will leave out for now so as not to send the thread cascading into a Spenseresque shit show.
But yes, the ensuing years opened up a can of worms which the Boomers irresponsibly accelerated while there was still time to react a bit.
(01-26-2018 12:00 PM)Samseau Wrote: If we had to trace the chain of cause and effect, I think the corruption really started with WW1. Once America got conned into fighting that war, it started down the path of endless empire building and spiritual corruption of the men and people.
Think about it: America entered WW1 in 1917, loses 120K soldiers, passes female suffrage in 1920. People believed men were so bad and women would help govern wiser or whatever. Then once pandora's box was opened it started the endless tide of divorce rape and adultery in the 1940's, culminating in the baby boomer generation. And the cycle of selfish degeneracy has remained unbroken to this day.
We discussed this last year. As I've said before we can keep passing the blame game back along the chain as far as we want to play it.
The point isn't what you think, or what I think, or what Debeguiled thinks. None of us take things at face value and question and research and reflect upon information before coming to our conclusions. That's why we're on this forum.
It's what easy narrative that plays up to these long-simmering resentments that will take hold of the emotions of the mob of people who aren't capable of thinking like we are when conflict eventually hits.
Boomers - whether falsely or not - are considered as the public face of Globalism and Leftist Thought - there's years of media programming selling them as such - and hell is going to rain down on them when the gloves are off.
I expect some weird and unexpected divisions to form, even within homogenous groups.
Bill and I were talking about this the other day. He senses something is about to happen, and he was commenting on how most women seek the power to be in charge only to resent having to be in charge.
I nodded my agreement. "The last thing a woman wants is genuine-responsibility."
I continued, saying that it won't matter once conflict hits, because then they'll all instantly-revert to saying "Oh, protect me, Mr Big and Strong Man, I'm just a Girl."
Bill shook his head, since he recognises (and has great contempt for) female emotional manipulation. "Spot on. That's exactly how they'll play it. They can fuck right off, unless they're pretty enough to be worth a ride."
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(01-26-2018 06:53 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote: I continued, saying that it won't matter once conflict hits, because then they'll all instantly-revert to saying "Oh, protect me, Mr Big and Strong Man, I'm just a Girl."
Bill shook his head, since he recognises (and has great contempt for) female emotional manipulation. "Spot on. That's exactly how they'll play it. They can fuck right off, unless they're pretty enough to be worth a ride."
Look on the bright side - maybe you can turn that around and have some "end of the world" sex.
Quote:On the occasions when these patients do report a parallel increase in sexual intensity, their primary issue isn't biological or existential. Rather, it is about safety. At the deepest level of our psyches, the real reason some of us get turned on by disasters is because disasters make us unconsciously feel safe to be sexual.
(01-26-2018 01:30 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote: ^ Fortis, Debeguiled: it's the 'All Woman' statement. There's exceptions for every rule.
I've accepted my parents were deeply-flawed, and have forgiven them - they were what they were - but I imagine I'm also an exception to the rule.
There's conflict coming, both right and left and looking for someone to blame, and it's simply another divide that will form as shit starts going south. It's very easy for my generation to look at how easy the Boomer Generation had it, to have sensed the tale end of a prosperous society and seen evidence of stable family structures that still existed in our childhoods, all of which was destroyed before our eyes, then take in the realization that 1/3 of our generation was aborted in the womb, and, well, I imagine there's a lot of people in the next 15 years who are going to be dancing not only on graves, but every single ideal that was held dear by what they see as selfish, privileged monsters.
Gen Z have had the same experience, whilst growing up under the harassment-era of the PC Moral Policing Millennials. White People are not united, the Right even less so. Even now, they're distracted and wasting time attacking each other. Hell, I don't think much of Trump, and I'm probably considered a 'Cuck' for looking after a half-aboriginal Kid who isn't my son. If Tribal Lines start forming in a Collapse, all these factors will come into play about who you choose to stand with, and, with that reality, certain age demographics are going to be viewed with deep suspicion.
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I stumbled across this movie trailer since I first posted earlier today.
Ages back on here, I wrote about how the Left existed at the fringes of Popular Culture, and how it was obvious they now controlled Pop Culture since they now revel in the sort of mass culture - like Star Wars and Marvel Movies - that Leftists of my era would have sneered at as being 'so mainstream'. Their culture was Subversive and Fringe, and I mentioned a movie like 'Heathers', from 1987 or 1988, a flop on its initial release, where a girl meets a bad boy and they set about killing the popular kids in their high school, since, in the Leftist mind, childhood status injuries are a valid justification to fantasize about murder. Of course, the people they hate are really substitutes for their parents: the Cheerleaders and Jocks. There's some very spot on depictions of latchkeying, and conversations with self-absorbed parents who aren't really listening.
Now look at this. They've remade it. Understand it's aimed at a teenage Gen Z audience. Take a good look at who the heroes and villains are.
Particularly: note the language the Queen Guy uses to describe the Heroine's boyfriend.
The Social Justice Brigade is downvoting it to oblivion, and not understanding that people are seeing them as, well, the bullies they are.
I'm hoping it's not a fake out.
Jesus Christ.....what the fuck did I just watch...
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(01-26-2018 06:53 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote: It's what easy narrative that plays up to these long-simmering resentments that will take hold of the emotions of the mob of people who aren't capable of thinking like we are when conflict eventually hits.
Bingo!
Elites don't care if it is blacks vs. whites, women vs. men, young vs old. The important thing is having a target for your resentment that doesn't look towards the elites.
Divide and conquer is the oldest and most effective psyop in the world.
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It is hard to blame them for not seeing the hand that shakes the jar.
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(01-26-2018 06:53 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote: It's what easy narrative that plays up to these long-simmering resentments that will take hold of the emotions of the mob of people who aren't capable of thinking like we are when conflict eventually hits.
Bingo!
Elites don't care if it is blacks vs. whites, women vs. men, young vs old. The important thing is having a target for your resentment that doesn't look towards the elites.
Divide and conquer is the oldest and most effective psyop in the world.
A little kid puts a salamander and a scorpion in a jar and shakes it up. They fight to the death.
It is hard to blame them for not seeing the hand that shakes the jar.
(P.s. Spell check doesn't have an entry for psyop. It thinks I am trying to say "topsy.")
Its true. We dont care. We're having way too much fun.
I think of it this way: it is not that the Boomers didn't know any better, it is just that they chose not to know any better because they thought that since they were born on 3rd base in the historical sense, they hit a home run. They chose to be degenerates, poison society with their degeneracy, virtue signalled their degeneracy and even had the audacity to preach to the old and young generations on a holier-than-though approach that their degeneracy was a blessing from God. Now, before the end, they want to see society burn down in flames before they all croak because they cannot handle the truth that embracing degeneracy is causing the world around them to crash.
Getting rid of the Boomers is technically addition by subtraction. I hope that it will not take a war to fix their mistakes but it looks like it is inching that way!
Just saw that Roosh put this article at the top of his list.
Quote:“People have completely forgotten that in 1972 we had over nineteen hundred domestic bombings in the United States.” — Max Noel, FBI (ret.)
True statement, and a great reminder of days gone by in that linked article. I can remember as a very young kid that bomb scares were still relatively commonplace, although dwindling in frequency by the mid-1970s. Somebody would call up the school, claim a bomb was placed and they would close it for a few hours while the cops - and there were not many SWAT cops back then - did their best to clear it. They didn't find any bombs at the ones I remember, but real bombs definitely were a reality in years prior. Cunts like this were lionized, to say nothing of Bill Ayers, who by some procedural screw up got away with bombing the US Capital building. You even so much as bring a sharp stick into that place nowadays and you're getting cuffed & convicted.
Everybody's forgotten about how it was mostly boomers, black and white, who as young hippies caused all of the bombings and bomb scares of the seventies. Islamic terrorism was a rarity in the US. As the boomers slipped into middle age, got on with careers and continued to support politicians who gave Israel whatever it wanted. Well, whaddya know that pissed off the Muslims and after a series of ignored attacks against a volunteer military (Beruit Embassy, Khobar Towers, USS Cole), they had the audacity to be surprised at 9-11 and actually bought the idea we were attacked "because of our freedom."
(01-29-2018 10:21 PM)PharaohRa Wrote: since they were born on 3rd base in the historical sense, they hit a home run.
Sounds a lot like millennial entitlement culture to me. As they say, history doesn't necessarily repeat, but it rhymes. The difference between, let's say, the hippie movement is at least all that free sex was sugar-coated as "free love" whereas now people cringe over the word love. And now people are clicktivists who start hashtag movements rather than stage sit-ins.
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(01-26-2018 06:53 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote: I continued, saying that it won't matter once conflict hits, because then they'll all instantly-revert to saying "Oh, protect me, Mr Big and Strong Man, I'm just a Girl."
Bill shook his head, since he recognises (and has great contempt for) female emotional manipulation. "Spot on. That's exactly how they'll play it. They can fuck right off, unless they're pretty enough to be worth a ride."
Look on the bright side - maybe you can turn that around and have some "end of the world" sex.
Quote:On the occasions when these patients do report a parallel increase in sexual intensity, their primary issue isn't biological or existential. Rather, it is about safety. At the deepest level of our psyches, the real reason some of us get turned on by disasters is because disasters make us unconsciously feel safe to be sexual.
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