Post: #1

There are a few phases a fledgling player goes through when it comes to meeting girls.

Phase 1: "She'll just descend from the heavens someday if I just keep being myself!" (Good luck with that)

Phase 2: "There are so many girls online and they're all single!" (and they're also banging 20 other dudes they met off Tinder, and you've wasted too many valuable hours of your life texting back and forth with her).

Phase 3: "OMG, I read Mystery's book!! I can go out to bars and clubs and pick up women!!!" (the women you pickup in clubs and bars are smuttier than what you'll find online).

Phase 4: You have a soft harem of smuts, none of whom you're enamored with.

Once your body, finances, and game are on point, you find yourself with a lot of women in your life. However, most of them are either golddiggers or straight up smuts. Or both. It's easy to find yourself surrounded by nothing but vapid smuts who either want your cock or your cash, and are good for nothing but getting a nut off. Fun? For sure. Satisfying? Eh.

So the question then becomes "how do I meet better girls?" You know, the girls that don't have 50 dicks in their life, are loyal, pleasant and feminine. Someone you might even consider having an LTR with.

These are my observations and where I've had success...

- Meetup.com. This site is way better for meeting better girls then online dating. I recommend joining groups that are focused on outdoorsy activities (hiking, adventure, etc.), religious activity (girls who are religious are WAAAAY better than those fat feminists who hate the patriarchy), Republican groups (Republican / conservative girls are way better), etc. I use meetup.com mostly for business, but I've found it's actually a better way to meet new women than online dating. If you really want to take this to the next level, consider hosting an event tailored to something you're interested in.

- Eventbrite. Similar to meetup.com, but it's got a lot more entertainment focused events. I prefer meetup, but check them both out.

- Church and/or bible study stuff. What you don't want is the "born again" variety though -- they're usually smuts with a kid who now want to meet a "good man" to settle down with. What you want are girls who believe in social structure, family values, etc.

- Country music festivals. Someone asked if you can run game at regular music festivals. The answer is, if you rent an RV, you can pretty much fuck smuts at will, because after a few days they're desperate to get out of the heat, take a shower, and use a bathroom that isn't a port-a-potty. However, it's just more of the usual that you find at bars and in clubs looking for an excuse to do drugs and fuck. That said, I've found that girls who attend country music festivals tend to be much better (and hotter).

- Crossfit. Yeah, I know the stereotype is a big manly woman with giant biceps. However, your average Crossfit girl is lean, and can actually stop drinking long enough to find an hour each day for hard exercise. I met a lot of hit awesome chicks at Crossfit. (though there are some butch women). The downside is the competition at Crossfit is fierce - you have a lot of jacked dudes who can afford $160 a month to exercise. Women who go to crossfit are usually financially stable, reasonably in shape, and at least somewhat committed to health and fitness.

- Shared office space co-ops -- my preference is WeWork. If you're the entrepreneurial type, don't work from home. Ever. A lot of hot women are self employed and work out of co-op space. If they're in any role that requires sales, that means not dying the hair blue, having a nose ring, tattoos, etc. Plus, self employed people all hate taxes and eventually become more conservative. I like WeWork because they have offices all over the country and in each major city. If I sit in a common area wearing a suit, often girls will just come up to me and start talking.

- Local GOP events. Republican women tend to be hot and conservative.

- Real estate events. Women involved with real estate tend to be hot. However, they tend to be less feminine. I typically don't meet women that I like at real estate events, but if you want a women who is more of a Type A, haveatcha.

Places and things I avoid with respect to women...

- My high end gym. The women there are looking for rich and powerful men. They're also usually old.

- Yoga. Women are hot, but tend to be liberal. While I think it's a great activity, it's not something I would sign up for to meet girls.

- Democratic / liberal political events. If you're a value signaling liberal, maybe this would work for you. As soon as these women find out I'm a sexist, gun toting, Trump voting Republican, it just becomes annoying. Plus, these women are all horrible anyway.

- EDM festivals. Expensive, hot, and the women tend to be drug users. Yuck.

- Jiu Jitsu / kickboxing / anything MMA related. Women tend to sign up for these events because they want to fuck fighters. You do not want to date women who are in the MMA community. (Great spot for meeting masculine men, though).

Some concluding thoughts...

You can use this stuff to meet other high value masculine men, and form tribes. Nothing is better than taking a girl out and showing her what a wide, diverse, and masculine social network you have. Plus, if you're self employed, it usually results in new business.

Another huge advantage is that going to events is usually free, and they're generally catered by the host. Meaning that instead of taking a girl out on a "date" and having to buy her drinks, you're drinking wine on someone else's dime. Traditional dating can get very expensive very quickly.

What I try and do is mix up my week. Three nights a week I'll usually do an event that is business / real estate related, and two nights a week I'll do something that is religious, political, etc. Even though I have a physical office, during the day I'll work from a common area or a coffee shop, always in a suit and tie.

Just like business, the more you put yourself out there, the more success you'll find yourself having. If you're looking to meet more women, put yourself out there in the right places.

Post: #2

Have you ever tried exclusively singles events? If so, how was it?

WeWork is an excellent resource.

Post: #3

Dupe.

http://www.returnofkings.com/72189/8-pla...lity-women

I think this time you got sloppy.

Post: #4

WeWork is not in the ROK article, and it's a brilliant idea (for those who can exploit it)!



I have worked in a shared co-office space before and it definitely presented...opportunities. You get all the sense of shared social-circle of being a coworker without the ethical concerns of working for the same company. I don't work for myself but I do telecommute. Even if I can't expense a co-working space through my employer it might be worth paying out of pocket and going through the commute ritual just to sit side by side with my natural professional peer-group.

It's incredibly easy to strike up smalltalk in an environment like this, usually in the kitchen area. It is really a college-dorm like atmosphere and the women just feel safe and more relaxed around the guys because they know they're professionals. Would love to hear success stories on this front.

Post: #5

(11-15-2017 06:01 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Dupe.

http://www.returnofkings.com/72189/8-pla...lity-women

I think this time you got sloppy.

Please, they have similarities but they aren't identical. Besides, dupes only apply to RVF, not ROK and RVF.

Besides, it lacks a few things.

Country festivals.
Eventbrite
Political events
shared office space
real estate meetups.

That is 5 things not listed in the article.

Post: #6

(11-15-2017 05:47 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  Have you ever tried exclusively singles events? If so, how was it?

WeWork is an excellent resource.

No, but I've been meaning to. They advertise for something on the radio about singles meetups.

However, in my head all I'm picturing are old divorced women and self proclaimed "cougars."

I like meetups that if all the girls suck, at least I'm doing something that I enjoy, fosters relationships with likeminded masculine men, or generates business.

Post: #7

Funnily enough my brother met his wife at a Jiu Jitsu class but in general I agree and would not recommend for meeting girls.

Similarly my 6'4" 220+ pound friend does very well with the girls at his cross fit gym. But if you're not that, then he is the kind of guy you are competing with.

I would also add to the list any kind of sport/club that has an affiliated women's team.

Post: #8

Can you just walk into a WeWork office and buy a day pass? I tried to look for that but they all seem to have monthly plans.

Post: #9

Be a better guy...they will come to you

Post: #10

(11-17-2017 04:12 AM)Cane Toad Wrote:  Be a better guy...they will come to you

I´m afraid it´s not that simple.

Post: #11

Rename the title to Where to Meet Better Girls.

The How is a completely different story.

Interesting post, I also use meetup.

Ironically, I jest with my one of best mates of having a meetup group called 'Beers For The Boys'.

Have a theme and set the time for 3-4 hours for men in relationships who want to go out and meet other guys.

They don't even need to show up, it's plausible deniability for them to do what ever.

"Sorry babe, I have a meeting tonight with BFTB".

Can provide 'tickets' for free if their missus are super anal.

Post: #12

(11-17-2017 04:36 AM)Brazilianguy Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 04:12 AM)Cane Toad Wrote:  Be a better guy...they will come to you

I´m afraid it´s not that simple.

Why is that not that simple?

Post: #13

(11-17-2017 04:47 AM)Noir Wrote:  Rename the title to Where to Meet Better Girls.

The How is a completely different story.

Interesting post, I also use meetup.

Ironically, I jest with my one of best mates of having a meetup group called 'Beers For The Boys'.

Have a theme and set the time for 3-4 hours for men in relationships who want to go out and meet other guys.

They don't even need to show up, it's plausible deniability for them to do what ever.

"Sorry babe, I have a meeting tonight with BFTB".

Can provide 'tickets' for free if their missus are super anal.

That is a great idea.

Post: #14

(11-17-2017 03:33 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Can you just walk into a WeWork office and buy a day pass? I tried to look for that but they all seem to have monthly plans.

No. It's all monthly.

However, you can just walk into one and say you're there to meet some generic person like "John Clark" or something, and they won't really say anything.

We had one kid "squat" here for like, 6 months. He just came in everyday and no one realized he wasn't a member.

The only issue is you won't be able to get in before 9am, or after about 5:30pm. I start my days at 7am, so that would be an issue for me.

Post: #15

(11-17-2017 07:38 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 03:33 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Can you just walk into a WeWork office and buy a day pass? I tried to look for that but they all seem to have monthly plans.

No. It's all monthly.

However, you can just walk into one and say you're there to meet some generic person like "John Clark" or something, and they won't really say anything.

We had one kid "squat" here for like, 6 months. He just came in everyday and no one realized he wasn't a member.

The only issue is you won't be able to get in before 9am, or after about 5:30pm. I start my days at 7am, so that would be an issue for me.

You can buy day passes at any one of them.

Post: #16

Meetup in my city and the cities around is literally just for 35 age + people.
I go regularly to a running meetup (cause its fun and I lose the beer fat) and not once a woman under 25 joined us lol. I'm always the young "boy".

Quote:Church and/or bible study

This is so true. My second girlfriend was very religious and she went to a big-ass church community on Sunday (sometimes Saturday nights) and it was full of young, nice down to earth women. Problem is, I can't stand the Jesus stuff lol. But if you compare the women to a random club anywhere, its day and night difference.

Post: #17

(11-15-2017 11:18 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  - Jiu Jitsu / kickboxing / anything MMA related. Women tend to sign up for these events because they want to fuck fighters. You do not want to date women who are in the MMA community. (Great spot for meeting masculine men, though).

Could you elaborate on this? Why is it bad?

Post: #18

One other good venue is social dancing clubs, swing or salsa. Good ratios, and you're in an intimate but mellow situation with easy dating avenues afterwards. That's where I got my last woman.

Post: #19

This thread is going to be very helpful with my online-dating exit-strategy.

Quasi-online socialising and networking is probably the way to go in the smartphone, instathot era which has adversely affected nightgame as well as online dating.

Post: #20

(11-17-2017 03:11 PM)little wing Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 11:18 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  - Jiu Jitsu / kickboxing / anything MMA related. Women tend to sign up for these events because they want to fuck fighters. You do not want to date women who are in the MMA community. (Great spot for meeting masculine men, though).

Could you elaborate on this? Why is it bad?

A lot of girls get involved in the MMA community because they want to fuck professional / semi-professional fighters. They become groupies.