Post: #126

(11-01-2017 01:35 AM)speculator Wrote:  Most women are sluts, and the remainder have not met the men who will turn them into sluts.

The reason that your mom is not a slut is not her own decision. It is because your grandpa, her brother, and your father did not let her become a slut. Plus, slut shaming was intense back in the day. Nowadays, sluts=women try to outwhore each other and men are cheering on the sidelines and liking their photos and lying to themselves that there are still unicorns left that are roaming through green pastures.

...Closing in on 4 billion sluts, eh?

Man A: I cannot catch a fish. There are no fish in this ocean.

*Man B catches a fish*

Man A: Well, there was one fish in the ocean, but now there are none.

Post: #127

(11-01-2017 02:21 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 01:35 AM)speculator Wrote:  Most women are sluts, and the remainder have not met the men who will turn them into sluts.

The reason that your mom is not a slut is not her own decision. It is because your grandpa, her brother, and your father did not let her become a slut. Plus, slut shaming was intense back in the day. Nowadays, sluts=women try to outwhore each other and men are cheering on the sidelines and liking their photos and lying to themselves that there are still unicorns left that are roaming through green pastures.

...Closing in on 4 billion sluts, eh?

Man A: I cannot catch a fish. There are no fish in this ocean.

*Man B catches a fish*

Man A: Well, there was one fish in the ocean, but now there are none.

Man C: Eats the fish caught by B.

Post: #128

Not if Man B is alpha enough.

LTR success denialism is game denialism.

Millions of men are catching fish and keeping fish.

If you're not capable of that then it's on you, not the world.

Post: #129

(11-01-2017 03:35 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Not if Man B is alpha enough.

LTR success denialism is game denialism.

Millions of men are catching fish and keeping fish.

If you're not capable of that then it's on you, not the world.

Here's a quick and easy quiz to determine whether or not Man C is eating your fish.

How do you earn the majority of your money?

(a) Working for an employer.
(b) Offering services that cut out the middle man and deliver all of the revenue for my work directly to me minus taxes. This allows me to survive financially.
© Offering services that cut out the middle man and deliver all of the revenue for my work directly to me minus taxes. This allows me to live well and I earn twice what I spend.
(d) By selling services or products that other people do the majority of the work in manufacturing, providing, selling and delivering. I give orders, participate in the development of new products and otherwise sit back and enjoy earning 2X or more the money I live on.

Now tally your answers:

If you got mostly a's, another man is eating your fish and you're not nearly as alpha as you think you are.

If you got mostly b's, another man is not eating your fish, but you suck as a fisherman and are not nearly as alpha as you think you are, unless you fuck at least one new girl every month.

If you got mostly c's, another man is not eating your fish and there is a good chance you are alpha, assuming that you do get laid regularly by women who are at least a 6.

If you got mostly d's, you are Man C.

Post: #130

I think the metaphor has drifted.

To be clear I'm talking about acquiring and keeping an LTR/Wife without being cheated on.

I'll have to concede to you on matters of business. In that field I plainly admit I am no alpha.

Post: #131

(11-01-2017 03:51 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I think the metaphor has drifted.

To be clear I'm talking about acquiring and keeping an LTR/Wife without being cheated on.

I'll have to concede to you on matters of business. In that field I plainly admit I am no alpha.

The metaphor has drifted.

But I still can't help but be suspicious of a man who believes he is alpha but his only evidence of such is the fact that he hasn't be divorced or refused sex yet.

I've noticed that these men tend to over-compensate with supposedly masculine hobbies and have never actually succeeded in the one arena that quickly separates the true alphas from the talkers: business.

Every player I know that doesn't struggle to get laid and yet is also a well-balanced human-being has sooner or later gotten to a point where their focus moves to establishing a reliable and independently established financial foundation (i.e. business).

I can't help but be confused by all the men who never went down this road.

Were they over-whelmed by pussy before making the intentional choice to turn down all that pussy and get faithfully married instead?

Did they bang out a ton of women, but never moved onto the other masculine pursuits such as captaining their own ship (i.e. business)?

I'm also very suspicious of those who portray themselves as having great political insight, but have some how failed to turn all of that genius into a million dollars.

Post: #132

It's natural to be suspicious of anyone that's not you.

In any case being an alpha can certainly be heavily contextual. Some guys are alpha businessmen but still end up getting played by low-rung gold-digging whores.

The bottom line is that telling the guys that do it that it can't be done is laughable.

Imagine if I insisted that China was an impoverished third world sausage-fest shithole and it was impossible for a man to be happy there? Imagine that I persisted despite you giving personal testimony to the opposite?

Post: #133

^ Well... There was one fish,

but Suits caught it.

Post: #134

Is alphaness a biological or a specifically human social concept?

Post: #135

So now we have the "I only fuck girls that don't fuck" crowd and the "all women are sluts" crowd.

What is it full moon? Damn

Post: #136

(11-01-2017 06:26 AM)Elster Wrote:  Is alphaness a biological or a specifically human social concept?

I personally believe it's both.

Your base level of capacity is genetically predetermined (chesty puller vs aids skrillex) but with effort and training you can rise a certain degree beyond your biological base.

Like sports, you have to have the nature AND the nurture at 100 percent to be the best, but being gifted OR training hard will get you half way.

Post: #137

(11-01-2017 12:19 AM)Pheonix Wrote:  And I do tell the decent women i encounter that I’m not looking for.a LTR, but a woman generally thinks she is the one to change that, of course. So the fucking ensues and continues.

And you don't think she's looking around also ?

You told her you aren't interested, you might be a main pursuit but she's always gonna look for something better, or a beta bucks to settle down with and bail on you.

Don't be foolish.

Quote:And yep, sure did have a prostitute use me to escape the game. Learned a good lesson from it, but I don’t hate her and I don’t hate women generally.

But the idea of potentially banging or eating a pussy full of the semen of another dude(s) in it should disgust any self-respecting male. This potential is high among sluts. You have at it, though. Enjoy. I’ll pass.

Odds are you've already done this Mr. Dark Alpha Triad

That good girl you adored could've snowballed you while making out or had a semen cocktail you shaked up in her pussy.

Question is, how will you ever know ? Plan on swabbing every pussy you're about to bang and get it tested ?

You can screen as much as you can, but you can only live your life so paranoid.

Post: #138

(11-01-2017 07:44 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  So now we have the "I only fuck girls that don't fuck" crowd and the "all women are sluts" crowd.

What is it full moon? Damn

First of the month and the autism is too damn high in this forum nowadays.

Post: #139

(11-01-2017 01:20 AM)musampa Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 10:26 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 09:58 PM)musampa Wrote:  All women are sluts ≠ women enjoy sex, which some users are pushing to be the same thing.

However, they are both independently true statements.

Can you explain a bit why do you think that all women are sluts?

Is your mom slut? (no insult, just wondering out of curiosity)

Speaking from experience from what I see slapped in front of my face everyday. I really do wish that I was wrong, and I would employ mental acrobatics in the past to justify that not all girls are sluts and that I will one day find my wife and future mother of my children.

My mom grew up in Iran in a small village and was married away when she was 15 years old. So, no.
If she grew up in a feminist "you go gurl" western society would she be a slut? Probably, unfortunately.

Post: #140

It's sad and encouraging at the same time to read threads like this. Sad, because this is a well known fact by those who experience this the hard way and encouraging that young blokes are finding out sooner rather than later after having a baby or marrying bishes like this.

Post: #141

(11-01-2017 11:11 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 07:44 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  So now we have the "I only fuck girls that don't fuck" crowd and the "all women are sluts" crowd.

What is it full moon? Damn

First of the month and the autism is too damn high in this forum nowadays.

I've been in 5 or 6 different thread tonight and it's all just people arguing about Jews.

Came into the game section for some light relief and you're arguing in here too.

Enough internet for tonight.

Post: #142

Autists are in full force. It seems the forum antitroll antibodies need to work double time clear this shit heap up.

The average in modern America is looking better and better these days honestly.

Out there there's only morons with social skills. I hop in this thread and there seems to be morons AND they have no social skills.

Post: #143

(10-29-2017 07:06 PM)Striking Wrote:  All you want as a player is a woman that sleeps with only the best of men, so you can actually feel proud of what you're doing, ...

Cuck.

Post: #144

(10-30-2017 06:11 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:54 PM)Samseau Wrote:  ...

If you want to have a civilization worth a damn, you need more than 50% of the women having children. You actually need to feel pain at all the lonely broken hearts out there, both male and female. You must love your Neighbor.

Your plan: No more breeding until civilisation corrects it's birth rates.

Does not compute.

All of our forefathers at some point faced the various horsemen of the apocalypse and survived to carry our bloodlines on.

Anyone wallowing in self pity about the hardships of this declining golden age is no man at all.

Anyone complaining that he doesn't have a stable of loyal, 18y/o, virgin, white 8's to choose from whenever he feels like settling down, and who furthermore will accept him fucking around until death do them part?

Those guys need to grow the fuck up and either increase their value or learn to compromise. The petulant whining about LTRs is getting to a fever pitch and I for one have no more tolerance for it. Find me a guy bitching about having trouble getting off the cunt carousel at 40y/o and I'll show you a guy that's passed up a half a dozen keepers because he wanted to keep on fucking and fucking and fucking.

We are officially the pot calling the kettle black these days.

Roosh himself struggles with the long road back to traditionalism to create a stable family, but he doesn't bitch about it all day long. He demonstrates an acceptance that what he gained in one field caused him to lose out in another. NEVER does he complain that he should always have been given the best of both worlds.

We make our choices and we play our hand. From time to time we vent. But to dwell on the rot of the world? To study it and obsess?

That invites it into the soul.

Dunno how I forgot to respond to this post.

This is boilerplate cuckservitism. Purge it from your mind, my friend. Blaming men for not reproducing in a rotten debauched society is ridiculous nonsense with zero historical understanding.

The times when "our forefathers faced the horsemen of the apocalypse" were never even close to the problems we have today with women. Before in the past, save the Roman times, the problems were related to food or war, but the idea that the average woman had notch counts exceeding 5 men was simply unfathomable for 99% of history.

Again, the facts are very simple. White birth rates today are below replacement levels due to rampant sluttiness. There isn't a lack of resources or eligible men. The women simply do not want to get married or have children. We are living in crazy, debauched times with virtually no precedent. The idea that a man gets a good women in these broken times and believes he has game is laughable. Luck is not game.

As for your strawman,

Quote:"Your plan: No more breeding until civilisation corrects it's birth rates."

Is not what I've said or ever said. My plan is to fix civilization, and then birth rates will correct themselves effortlessly. Until civilization is fixed, all children produced today will be consumed by the Beast and women will be thrown into the slut-grinder dating market.

This is why your tough-guy talk of "just find a good woman dude!" is cuckservatism. It completely ignores the larger forces tearing our society apart, and all that will happen is your kids or grandkids will get chewed up by the forces you didn't fight. By ignoring the larger political context in which you exist, you are cucking yourself as your kids will not fare well at all.

It isn't necessary for men to have children. Children are the prerogative of a woman, not men. It is women who should be dreaming of the happy family life, not the men. The fact that you are trying to shame men into "finding a good woman" is feminine thinking.

Our civilization was mostly built by great men who had no children, or did not marry. This is because the most valuable thing a man can do is not have kids, but create a world where families proliferate. As Jesus says, "seeds in good soil multiply a thousandfold." As men, we are the ones responsible for creating the good soil. The women cannot do it, as they have no ability to destroy and move politics like men can.

The great men of history were the opposite of Leonard D Neubache:

(11-01-2017 11:30 AM)Samseau Wrote:  Did Jesus, the Apostle Paul, Socrates, Plato, Descartes, the leader of the First Crusade (never married), Newton, Hume, Kant, and about 10 thousand other bachelors who built the west go extinct?

How about the millions of soldiers whom have died with no children over the past 2000 years, did they go extinct?

Or are they not living on through you and millions of their other children?

The idea that men having kids is necessary is simply anti-Christian. There is a reason both Jesus and the apostle Paul writes so highly of the ascetic life. Any moron can fuck a bitch and have kids, anyone can reproduce like an animal. But creating the world where kids are raised right is 1000000000000000x more important and difficult to do.

Our civilization would have never reached the heights it has if it weren't for men who understood that children are secondary to truth and righteousness. Look at Africa - they are great at reproducing! Boy oh boy such manliness! But until Christian technology came to them, their population was miniscule because none of those kids survived or grew up into anything worth a damn.

More pesky facts:

(10-29-2017 09:13 PM)Samseau Wrote:  If women want to have families and babies, then they will get them. It's that simple. Between WW1 and WW2 somewhere around 10-35% of men of all European countries were murdered, and yet birthrates remained high and population continued to increase. Didn't matter that there was a massive man shortage. Women still had families and babies.

On top of that, the highest birthrates in the world today occur in shit poor countries where people crawl around in dirt. Women are popping out 4-8 kids a whack in these places despite living like it's the bronze-age.

Meanwhile, in our "advanced" first-world nations, where money and men are plentiful, somewhere close to 50% of women aren't having children and around 40% of those who do have kids are welfare moms. White birthrates are negative, despite the women having more than virtually any other women on earth or history, and people want to blame the men?

If women want to have children and families, they will have them and few things can stop them from doing so. Therefore the only possible explanation today is that women do not want to have children and families.

Post: #145

^^^

Looks like this thread needs to go into politics and war now

Post: #146

(11-02-2017 01:47 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  ^^^

Looks like this thread needs to go into politics and war now

Nah, deep forum. Was thinking of thread titles just the other day, I'm close to settling for "It is not necessary for men to have children."

Post: #147

(11-02-2017 05:44 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(11-02-2017 01:47 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  ^^^

Looks like this thread needs to go into politics and war now

Nah, deep forum. Was thinking of thread titles just the other day, I'm close to settling for "It is not necessary for men to have children."

Well, being a Christian, I think you should point out that everyone should just kill themselves, because Jesus commanded it:

Luke 14:26
If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple.

Post: #148

Me when Samseau's preaching:



The guy must be Pope Urban reborn or some shit.

While I agree with Samseau that women can have whatever they wanted, family and children the easiest on the list and that the current social scene today is detrimental to raising families, Leonard does have a point. You cant just go around complaining that there aren't any good woman around. First, it is not true. Second, it turns you into a bitch.

We DO see people happily married, all the time. I myself had the chance to have several redpill mentors, all around 30-35. They have great business, have a 6-figure portfolio, and are all engaged with beautiful and feminine girl. None of them even remotely resemble your typical female trash.

I'm also flying out to Burundi for my mate's wedding. He made the good, sensible choice of marrying a Catholic girl from a piss-poor country who worship him. Take a look at this photo and tell me if that's the kind of girl who's gonna divorce rape you?

Several of our RVF members are happily married. Strikeback and Mufasa come to mind. How about that Chinese guy with the smoking Ukrainian wife? I myself am in a happy LTR with a great girl. Now I do admit we are the exception rather than the norm.

But herein lies the point. You should always be the exception. That's why you are here on RVF. Dont be the normal, average frustrated chump. Dont fucking be like OP.

You cant tell people who are happily married with loving wifes, who in turn surround himself with other men who are happily married, that all women are trash. It simply reeks of inexperience and bitterness. All women are CAPABLE of being trash, but luck + game ensure you can find several who aren't.

I personally find it sad that so many forum members are on the AWALT train. I did woke up several times next to a beautiful girl, who later told me they already had a boyfriend. I was surprised but not shocked, and I certainly did not lose faith in women. I simply dont give any girl any credit until she earns it, and I dont expect anything until the girl proves herself worthy. But there's no need to go cry AWALT.

If what you want is a good wife with a good family, you can do it. Search in-state, out-state, high and low, whatever you will find it.

I've been out of USA for so long I dont know how it is. But given the fact that so many women did vote Trump things cant be all that bad.

Post: #149

What I'm like when I find out a girl I though was a good girl is a slut



What I'm like when I find a good girl I can turn into a slut(most of them)

Post: #150

I totally agree that we should strive to be the exception. Self-improvement is essential for happiness. In no way am I saying MGTOW whining is virtuous.

But I am saying that merely getting your own piece of the pie isn't enough. Take care of your Neighbors because when they are gone, you'll be next. We are political animals and therefore rise and fall with our political systems. Read your history and learn about how many countries were wiped out because their politics and people became corrupt. Selfish thinking is what creates internal corruption. Do not abandon your Neighbors even as you live an exceptional life.

Quote:40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

What good is it if a man gains the whole world but loses his own soul?