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Long story I will keep it long.Pass this if you're looking for a helpful thread.Any advices on this topic will be apperciated specially by high repped members ,Let's get straight into this.
So, I have started College two weeks ago as a freshman.My life experiences till this moment and social tools are not enough to let me be the coolest guy in college but I try to keep up with the infos shared here on the forum and RSD videos to keep my mind straight. I knew a guy on the first day on college.Sooner we became somewhat of friends (later I get amog'd by this guy).My social skills have improved massively during the first week and I managed to maintain the uni mates So I do not stand alone during the gaps between lectures.I learned from roosh and rsd that its all about social circle game, So I'm trying as much to be as open and funny with people.Week two , I see a girl giving me strong eye contacts and is always standing alone (We have only 1 session about one and half hour a week in common). Yesterday , session time she comes and asks me if the seat beside me is taken and eventually she sits down. I strikes up a conversation 10 mins after asking her to help me in X she leads me. Sooner I make her laugh, I ask her if she thinks the TA's english is good she tells me not so good then she asks about what I think, I bait her by saying that I were in a french school So the conversation flew.. And when session time ended I ejected after giving her a good line for her to sit beside me again while not being so needy. End of the day going to my lecture hall I see the Amog making her all laugh in front of the hall , I walk my way and he shouts my name Do you know that she's X , Nothing in my head at this time , no social tools or experience I shake hand with her in a ceepy way with nothing to say . They enter the lecture hall together he's making her all laugh. He takes her close to a seat of another hottie that he stated to her before that he likes her. I get jealous at this scene( The girl that was into me is now into him , he's making the hotties of the lecture hall jealous too) . I ask my friend do you really understand what the Prof is saying , He answers me he doesn't, We both eject and Im at the peak of frustration I get out of the hall and tell my buddy why Im frustrated. Women are the reasons of conflict between men , They initiate jealousy which leads to frustration. I try to maintain myself and he's here tellin me its ok. Sooner I forgot about it and we're laughing together. I get back to the parking to wait for the uni bus to arrive I sit down And this happens.Guess who's coming back to ruin it more for me ,Yep. The Amog and the girl are walking in together He sees me and says my name Shakes hand , she tells him we sit her with a friend of her. They're all laughing about things together and I feel they sense my frustration I try to be as cool as possible and making my mate laughing at something at my phone . She asks me a question and I answer back. I eject when the bus came feeling like a wuss. I talk to myself 'I really need to go to approach some girls today so I forget what happens" But then I say ' You're really in a bad mood get back to your home , Take a shower and sleep , tomorrow is a better day' Next day I thought I forgot about it but the thing is It keeps catching to me again in someway or another and I still feel jealous about the amog and can't keep it down.
I even don't know in what way I should be proceeding in college, Do I keep talking with the amog and tellin him what was my intentions , Or I keep talking with the only hottie I see in my session which got picked up by the amog.I would like to know your thoughts on this stating what I did wrong , etc and how to handle future situations if that could help.

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Post: #3

Quote:I talk to myself 'I really need to go to approach some girls today so I forget what happens" But then I say ' You're really in a bad mood get back to your home , Take a shower and sleep , tomorrow is a better day' Next day I thought I forgot about it but the thing is It keeps catching to me again in someway or another and I still feel jealous about the amog and can't keep it down.

Yeah, a warrior must know when to retreat. When the mood is not the best, better to go back, meditate, improve, and then come back stronger.

Now, you have to realize that there will always be guys better, stronger, faster, with more wit, better looking, taller and stylish. So, you have to work hard to get better in all those fields. First, learn how to write better, because it was very hard to read your post.

Then make yourself an interesting guy, a guy that other guys like to hang around with, and respect. If you don't get the respect of guys, you will never have the respect of girls. Not saying that you should be the Turtle of that "Entourage" tv show, nobody wants to be that guy, you have to be respected for your personality and not for being a ball licker of jocks or amogs.

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@Rocha Trust me I work on improving everyday. And without the forum I don't think I would've ever started. And for the writing thing , I will keep it short next time.

Post: #6

It's really hard to understand your post but it sounds like you're in your head more than the other guy. Is he being friendly with you? Calling you out and shaking your hand and introducing you to the girl (even though you already know her)? Sounds like he's being nice to you. Get over that jealousy and fast. He probably has better social skills, maybe a better upbringing, maybe he was wealthier and more confident because of it. Who cares, don't get mad at him for it. Learn from it to be a better man. Befriend him so that you have someone to learn from. He could be a good connection now and through life. Every single dude should have a male role model that they know is better than they are.

Forget about the one hottie, think about the abundance of hotties. If you are with a girl and you have cool guys calling you out and recognizing you then that is going to help you. There are plenty to go around, especially early in University. If he does actually block you more than a few times then stay away but so far it just sounds like a guy you are intimidated by is being nice to you. Get over it and be more confident in who you are and who you are becoming instead of worrying about who you're not.

As Rocha said, get better in every way. Anything you think he does well, work to do better. You may not ever catch up but girls will take notice and you'll become a better person.

Most importantly, don't get angry or frustrated, it's just some stupid girl. Who cares. Take advantage of the situation to improve yourself.

You also said the "only hottie" in your session. That's probably not true. There are other girls there and you'd be surprised how a girl that didn't look that great in class looks so good riding on your D.

Post: #7

AMOGS and Alphas are going to fuck who they want.

Always improve yourself and try become the AMOG and alpha.

In the meantime, you focus on hunting the left over pussy and the gaps in their carnage.

Don't hate the game, get better at it.

Post: #8

Stop viewing other guys as competition, it's weird.

The guys I've hated most were the ones that treated every girl and social gathering as some sort of rabid race to get laid, as opposed to a way to just have a good time. Have a good time and you'll end up pulling (or not, but you'll still have a good time and a good reputation to go with it).

Treat it like a competition or a big deal and you'll find a lot of girls and guys won't want to be around you much.

The reality is some of the advice in the manosphere and game works best in situations that are relatively anonymous and very time limited (running into a girl in a coffee shop downtown), but aren't as beneficial in environments such as college, where girls are abundant and your reputation precedes you

Post: #9

Sounds like two apes trying to see who can beat their chest the loudest.

I've never worried about that AMOG stuff and none or the guys I roll with worry about it either.

The questions you ask and problems you have determine your life. If your biggest problem is how to make a girl laugh more than the guy next to you , your game and lifestyle will never become anything more than superficial nonsense without real confidence.

Post: #10

(10-21-2017 10:19 AM)LINUX Wrote:  Sounds like two apes trying to see who can beat their chest the loudest.

I've never worried about that AMOG stuff and none or the guys I roll with worry about it either.

The questions you ask and problems you have determine your life. If your biggest problem is how to make a girl laugh more than the guy next to you , your game and lifestyle will never become anything more than superficial nonsense without real confidence.

Where does real confidence come from and how does one develop it? I've heard a lot of different examples about it, and I'm curious to see what your perspective is.

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Nobody will probably admit this but being on campus in college sucks unless you’re a top dog. Why constantly be in an environment where 1000 dudes better than you are walking around everywhere. There’s little you can do. And im a guy who was always one of the most athletic, smartest, and best looking guys.

I honestly think a true player should skip university until he’s 35-40. Then the trade off gets good because you got so many younger woman all around you. Plus you’ll have a much better idea what you want to study.

My advice is to dropout and spend your youth traveling cheaply in a foreign country. Totally serious. If I had a kid I’d tell him the same thing. College is so dumb and a waste of your time and money. Don’t bother trying to game it. Not with all this PC crap you’ll run into. Nope.

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Travel, I don't really get how you could find college so bad. I was nowhere near the best looking kid in college and I did fine. Guys over the age of 25 in college were absolute pariahs

Post: #13

I studied abroad every semester of college. And I still think it’s a scam industry. You can go walk around campuses and talk to the girls for free. Why pay tens of thousands of dollars for four more years of high school?

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Thanks for all the advices shared here. I have sit with myself for some time and I'm finally fully aware of what I have to do for the rest of the college semester.
First I pinpointed Where My problem arises.
*Due to lack of life experiences in general, Having losers as bestfriends which made me learn nothing in life in general , Having a best friend that I realised has the same failure inability to success In general.
Examples of my crucial mistakes
*I look at the girls in campus as the type I think of having sex with , When I talk to a girl It looks so obvious that Im interested in her. The result of that is: Either the girl back off the conversation a lil bit to make my sexual excitement goes down , Or either other girl Look at me in the prespictive of 'Oh this guy is coming here to fall in love or to pick up any girl he is talking to'
I realised I did this two times unconsciously. I say to a group bye , And then I look at the girl I'm really attracted to and say bye again, Unconsiously Im falling in love with girls in campus.. Which makes me looks like a fuckin creep.
*Inability to change myself from being a sexual guy talking to just a friend.
What will I do.
*Tone down being attracted to a certain woman at its lowest
*Be completly aware while talking to girls to not look really interested in them so the group of girls don't take notice
*Just having fun all around in campus
*Trying to be just a friend with everyone.
*Using the social tools I learned and that was a lesson for me in this thread , to be a friend with the group , more than a potential Boyfriend with a certain girl.
That was a wrap of my thoughts in this exact day. Thanks for everyone who's been here to help and any follow on this post will be apperciated.

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@travel, depending on your state you can get a BA for anywhere from being paid to go to school, to free, to $15,000 tuition for a total 4 years with no financial aid. There's a lot of social events and groups that only students can participate in. It might be possible to sneak in on that once or twice, but once outed it'd basically be the end of that.

@nick, glad to hear that youve identified what to work on

Post: #16

Update:
I will try to write in details in an organised way so you could know what I'm Up to, And possibly give me your personal thoughts.
The Mate X : He is a guy thats known in our group of 5 males the beta pickup guy , who gets the girl and instantly gets friendzoned.This guy has released for us some of his ways to get the girl following a completly direct game, as soon as He released that I felt bad for this guy and I imagined his future in college And thats all because of what I learned in this forum.
The Amog: Same guy I wrote the thread about , we're getting closer now I started learning few things from him not in game , but in life in general .
For me : I backed up after posting the thread 2 days max , I came back to uni in a good mood , I started more socializing with all the people, And this hottie is telling me today you're really a sociable person, And stands with me for a good 20 minutes.
Today for the Amog is like my day when I wrote this thread. A girl gets out of the lecture (she's a 6 at max) And the amog Tells me She is the hottest girl in the lecture and that she is his target. Anyway.. she gets out of the hall sits with us for the first time. The amog started talking to her in front of us then the conversation was headed to the guy X He was talking to her then isolated her from us , more talk and one hour later left with her. This is what happens, The amog gets frustrated , I can see the jealousy and the loss in his eyes. Then he tries to hide it by being funny sometimes and stating the pickup things of the guy X in a funny way other times. I can see my mates all standing with the amog's talk , helping him making fun of the guy in front of the girls, And then the girls start laughing at him too. Next day The guy X returns to sit with us and a bunch of new girls , the amog and our mates still keep making fun of him while the amog always the one initiating and leading our friends by stating his Pickup Lines with The pose that he does while talking to a girl. The end of the day , I tell the amog and my mates you should've tamed it down a bit , He never hurted us in a way or another telling them they were too harsh on him. The guy's future is fucked up And I really feel bad for him. I never thought uni will be that crazy tho and I will be exposed to this types of gaming interactions. I know that this post sounds more like two kids fighting for a useless toy, but I'm completly serious about what I'm experiencing right now. Thoughts on this ?