Post: #1376

(01-20-2019 11:20 PM)godzilla Wrote:  

(01-20-2019 10:43 PM)Higgs Bosun Wrote:  

(01-20-2019 10:31 PM)zigZag Wrote:  

(01-20-2019 10:26 PM)Higgs Bosun Wrote:  Fuck yeah, Patriots roll again! Brady, Edelman and Gronkowski do it one more time. First NFL game I've watched this season and it was well worth it, hopefully they take home the trophy. Those boys Brady and Belichick are no cucks.

They play in Gilette Stadium... Every time they play a home game they are fighting toxic masculinity.

lol hardly. Brady and Belichick endorsed Trump prior to the 2016 elections. They endorsed Candidate Trump mind you, who may as well have been "literally Hitler" compared to the disappointment President Trump has turned out to be.

Also, the Patriots have the whitest offense in the NFL and have had that distinction every year for at least the last decade so it's no coincidence. Seeing that offense tear through the entire NFL to end up in the Superbowl year after year with the reliability of a Swiss watch is enough to make the soyphags gnash their teeth in bitter tears. Every Patiot super bowl victory is enough to cancel out some hundred odd (((commercials))) portraying white men as pathetic, emasculated schmucks.

I'm not sure I agree with anything you wrote, but because of stereotypes that whites are not good athletes, many coaches, and GMs overlook too many of them. Belichick picks these guys up on the cheap and is able to fill many positions without spending as much money as other teams, also realizing that skill positions are not as important as people think. This allows the Pats to spend more money on lineman which are far more important. Not many GMs were clamoring to sign guys like Burkhead, Edelman, and Hogan (and even Wes Welker, Danny Woodhead, and Danny Amendola back in the day) when the Pats picked them up.

It's almost the same thing that happened in the 50s when Blacks were integrated into the leagues.

I'm not sure why you think you're contradicting me with that post. The points I was making are that:

1) Brady and Belichick support and publicly endorse the Right
2) The Patriots offense has consistently had the highest number of white players in the skill positions compared to the rest of the NFL.
3) The amazing success of said "white" offense serves to both annoy the anti-white propagandists and weaken their propaganda efforts to emasculate white men.

Nothing you wrote weakens or even really addresses any of these points. At best it's an explanation for how and why #2 came to be, but the how and why is not really the topic under discussion.

Post: #1377

(01-20-2019 11:27 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

(01-20-2019 11:20 PM)Atomic Wrote:  

(01-20-2019 10:20 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  And now we get yet another Patriots Super Bowl appearance. Oh goody, how exciting. Maybe someone can answer this for me but are Tom Brady and Bill Belichick that much smarter and better than everyone else or does everyone else just suck ass and can't figure out how to beat them? Not surprised KC lost, they don't play any D and allowing 3 TDs in a row in a championship game is a total joke. NFL has truly become a joke between this and the bs reffing in the early game. Oh well, I'm gonna bone my chick for 4 hours on Super Bowl Sunday and not watch one second of that garbage game.

Dude. KC put up 31 points in the second half to Pats 17.

39 seconds left and they walked the field to the red zone and got a field goal to tie up at :16 (or was it :11?). Either way it took them about 20 seconds.

That was a hell of a game.

KC's offense is amazing but man you have to play some defense in order to win, especially at key moments in the game. You can't win when you give up 3 touchdowns in a row late in the game and into OT. It's an old cliche but defense does indeed win championships. Was a great game no doubt but I can't watch yet another Patriots Super Bowl, its not interesting to me. Plus we get stuck with an exciting half time show featuring Maroon 5! Patriots and Maroon 5, what a way to waste 4 hours. I guess at least the Pats will go to the White House after they win.

I'm actually thinking Rams will take it but I'd like to see a ring on Tom's second hand.

Post: #1378

Yeah I think the Rams will win.

Post: #1379

(01-20-2019 11:27 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

(01-20-2019 11:20 PM)Atomic Wrote:  

(01-20-2019 10:20 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  And now we get yet another Patriots Super Bowl appearance. Oh goody, how exciting. Maybe someone can answer this for me but are Tom Brady and Bill Belichick that much smarter and better than everyone else or does everyone else just suck ass and can't figure out how to beat them? Not surprised KC lost, they don't play any D and allowing 3 TDs in a row in a championship game is a total joke. NFL has truly become a joke between this and the bs reffing in the early game. Oh well, I'm gonna bone my chick for 4 hours on Super Bowl Sunday and not watch one second of that garbage game.

Dude. KC put up 31 points in the second half to Pats 17.

39 seconds left and they walked the field to the red zone and got a field goal to tie up at :16 (or was it :11?). Either way it took them about 20 seconds.

That was a hell of a game.

KC's offense is amazing but man you have to play some defense in order to win, especially at key moments in the game. You can't win when you give up 3 touchdowns in a row late in the game and into OT. It's an old cliche but defense does indeed win championships. Was a great game no doubt but I can't watch yet another Patriots Super Bowl, its not interesting to me. Plus we get stuck with an exciting half time show featuring Maroon 5! Patriots and Maroon 5, what a way to waste 4 hours. I guess at least the Pats will go to the White House after they win.

I mean it's not like the Patriots where playing defense at th end of the game either. They won because they came out better and more prepared in the first half, which is a testament to better coaching and experience. Then the younger Chiefs settled down and stepped it up, but couldnt do enough to win before overtime. Game was literally decided by a coin toss at the end, nobody can convince me that Mahomes wouldnt have marched down the field too if they got the ball first.

I think the Patriots will win the Super Bowl for the same reason they won this game. Better coaching and more experience. . And Brady of course.

Post: #1380

I think they need to do OT like they do in basketball, ie play a 10 min half or something and see who's leading at the end of it. Doing sudden death works beautifully in hockey but is ridiculous in football. Even the college system would be better where they give each team the ball at the 30 yard line and both teams get a chance to play offense would be better. Another thing this game illustrated to me is just what a non-entity defense is in the modern day NFL. This game was decided by the last team to get the ball on offense because like you said, Repo, if KC had won the toss, they would have gone down and scored too. I grew up watching ferocious defenses like the Steel Curtain, the 86 Bears and their 4-6 defense, the Giants with Lawrence Taylor and so on so to see defense the way it's played now is a travesty for me. It was an exciting game but I'm sorry but without defense, it's not football to me.

Post: #1381

Unfortunately we may never get that old school defense again with all the health concerns. .. the league and refs wont allow it.

Post: #1382

Both games were insanely great... minus the helmet-to-helmet non-call against the Rams. Really puts a dark cast on the game, especially considering the league is supposed to be cracking down on that kind of thing.

It looks like the Chiefs defense that sucked at almost everything all year long finally dissolved when it mattered the most. Complain all you want about the overtime rules, but you gotta make that final stop to give your torrid offense a chance–the Falcons couldn't do it in 2017, and the Pats completely shredded the Chiefs in the end of this one. I guess Andy Reid will have to wait yet another year for a chance to win a Super Bowl–at least Chiefs fans have Dee Ford as a scapegoat for the loss, because it sure wasn't Mahomes' fault. Kid played his ass off, and will deservedly get the MVP in a few weeks.

Was really hoping for the Brady-Brees matchup though. Brees actually has the career h2h advantage, 3-2, but only one of those wins is from his Saints days, and neither of the Chargers-era wins were in the postseason.
I'll also say this... Super Bowl 53 is the last stand for Tom Brady as the legend we know him as. The wall is coming for him like it does for everyone, and the regular season showed it. All his talk of playing til age 45 or whatever is BS, and he should honestly retire after SB53 whether he wins or not. Go out on, or at least near the top.
What this regular season was for Brady, next year's will be for Drew Brees as well: the last good one.

Post: #1383

Could it possibly be a coincidence?? The hate on MAGA boy's "smirk" is like an out of control wildfire all over the internet. If not coincidence Brady truly is the GOAT of GOATs.

Post: #1384

The Rams need to solidify their fanbase - they're in a new city and building a $2.6 BILLION stadium. They were getting that win if Goodell had to personally break Bree's leg with a tire iron.

Post: #1385

(01-20-2019 10:43 PM)Higgs Bosun Wrote:  

(01-20-2019 10:31 PM)zigZag Wrote:  

(01-20-2019 10:26 PM)Higgs Bosun Wrote:  Fuck yeah, Patriots roll again! Brady, Edelman and Gronkowski do it one more time. First NFL game I've watched this season and it was well worth it, hopefully they take home the trophy. Those boys Brady and Belichick are no cucks.

They play in Gilette Stadium... Every time they play a home game they are fighting toxic masculinity.

lol hardly. Brady and Belichick endorsed Trump prior to the 2016 elections. They endorsed Candidate Trump mind you, who may as well have been "literally Hitler" compared to the disappointment President Trump has turned out to be.

Also, the Patriots have the whitest offense in the NFL and have had that distinction every year for at least the last decade so it's no coincidence. Seeing that offense tear through the entire NFL to end up in the Superbowl year after year with the reliability of a Swiss watch is enough to make the soyphags gnash their teeth in bitter tears. Every Patiot super bowl victory is enough to cancel out some hundred odd (((commercials))) portraying white men as pathetic, emasculated schmucks.

Come on why are we bringing race into this? Not everything needs to be about (((them))) and Race. With that being said the reason the patriots are winning has nothing to do with the "Whiteness" of their offence. Their defense shut out the chiefs in the first half.

The main factor is that Tom Brady is an elite QB playing on a really low salary compared to what others are getting. Bill is just levels above everyone else and they are able to acquire players that prefer winning to a high salary and coach em up. Guys like Gronk are making A LOT less than they would somewhere else. Then they have continuity in coaching. I saw somewhere that the O line coach is there 17 years. So basically Tom Brady has the protection he needs and that line is giving the RBs great holes to run through.

There are alot of reasons the patriots do so well. As for my semi serious comment about Gillette Stadium. Well every time you say the patriots home field it's a Toxic masculinity ads. But i'm just tired of seeing the patrios in every championship and superbowl. But they deserve to be there.

What sucks is the patriots will win the superbowl because watching Goff the dude SUCKS under pressure. He literally freaks out and threws really shitty passes under any sort of pressure. I'm not even talking about 0 blitzes... just regular 5 man pressures. I noticed that every time i saw him play. Especially when they played the cowboys last week.

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NFL is a lot better this year

Post: #1386

(01-21-2019 08:21 AM)zigZag Wrote:  EDIT:




NFL is a lot better this year

“Anything’s better than hue... I mean you.”

I like Baker Mayfield and hope he becomes one of the premier QB's in the wack ass NFL

Post: #1387

(01-21-2019 03:10 AM)Higgs Bosun Wrote:  

Gronk forever the NFL's biggest goofball

   

Post: #1388

Gronk reminds me of a guido. Brady is GOAT

Post: #1389

(01-21-2019 08:21 AM)zigZag Wrote:  [b]The main factor is that Tom Brady is an elite QB playing on a really low salary compared to what others are getting. Bill is just levels above everyone else and they are able to acquire players that prefer winning to a high salary and coach em up. Guys like Gronk are making A LOT less than they would somewhere else. Then they have continuity in coaching. I saw somewhere that the O line coach is there 17 years. So basically Tom Brady has the protection he needs and that line is giving the RBs great holes to run through.

You're absolutely right about coaches. Since many of the coordinators/assistants from the first few BB years (Eric Mangini, Charlie Weis, Al Groh) left to try (and fail at) HCing there has been much less turnover compared to most any other NFL team. Even Josh McDaniels came crawling back a year and a half after he left to try (and failed miserably at) being the Broncos HC.
In addition to his on-field and (for the most part) personnel-management mastery, Bill is also incredibly good at employing coaches who are either simply not as football-smart as he is, and/or keeping those with that potential less football-intelligent than he is.
I'm sure there is some redpill/game concept(s) that can be likened to this.

Post: #1390

(01-21-2019 10:57 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

(01-21-2019 08:21 AM)zigZag Wrote:  EDIT:




NFL is a lot better this year

“Anything’s better than hue... I mean you.”

I like Baker Mayfield and hope he becomes one of the premier QB's in the wack ass NFL

Colin Cowherd has left the chat.

Post: #1391

(01-20-2019 10:20 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  And now we get yet another Patriots Super Bowl appearance. Oh goody, how exciting. Maybe someone can answer this for me but are Tom Brady and Bill Belichick that much smarter and better than everyone else or does everyone else just suck ass and can't figure out how to beat them? Not surprised KC lost, they don't play any D and allowing 3 TDs in a row in a championship game is a total joke. NFL has truly become a joke between this and the bs reffing in the early game. Oh well, I'm gonna bone my chick for 4 hours on Super Bowl Sunday and not watch one second of that garbage game.

Brady and Belichick are smarter because of this guy, Ernie Adams:



He's a former Wall Street quant who gives Belichick his edge.

Many have speculated that he is behind the high number of white skilled players on the Patriots. Not because he is a white nationalist, but because white skilled players are significantly cheaper than black players at the same position.

If a white guy is only 75% as good as the black player that you had in mind, if he only costs 40% as much you can put that money elsewhere like the offensive line without taking a bad hit on effectiveness. In turn, this will make him much better since Brady will have better protection in the pocket.

He probably was able to convince Belichick and team executives tp do this given his other successes for them.

When they got Edelman at over 200 picks into the draft, a average sized jewish white guy who went on to become one of the most exciting players in the league, the Patriots showed their hand.

I have also read (but I can't remember where I saw it), that the Patriots like to trade away many of their draft picks for proven veterans and garbage draft picks. They then use all of those picks to cheaply roll the dice over and over again on unproven players until they find a gem. If this is true, this is exactly the kind of strategy a former quant would come up with.

Post: #1392

It's not just the cheap white receivers and lineman. There's two more factors that make the Patriots operate really efficiently. The first is that Brady takes a discount because he has a rich wife. Pretty easy with the money she has, but I think part of it is Brady knows it will help them win and get him some endorsements to make up for it. Brady averages about 22 million a year right now. Rodgers is the highest paid QB at 33.5 million per year. Matt Ryan also makes 30 million a year. That's a big difference. Saving at least 8 million a year on an elite quarterback can also get you some higher quality in valuable positions.

The second is that the Patriots not only buy low and sell high on underrated players, but also on star rentals. They got Randy Moss at the lowest point of his career after two years in Oakland. He went on to set single season records with Brady. Darelle Revis came off a low point with Tampa Bay after he left the Jets. The Patriots snagged him up to complete their defense and win their first Super Bowl in 10 years. Blount stepped up for them after having a rough patch with Tampa as well. Brandin Cooks came from the Saints last year, Josh Gordon this year.

The point is the Patriots seem to know the perfect time to trade or sign more notable names in the NFL as well. Better than most teams I've seen. Effectively, they're the Wall Street alphas of the NFL. Never apologizing and living by the buy low sell high mentality to the fullest. Even with Brady and Jimmy G some people killed the Patriots for trading Jimmy last year, but this year there has been crickets.

Post: #1393

(01-21-2019 01:08 PM)yankeetravels Wrote:  It's not just the cheap white receivers and lineman. There's two more factors that make the Patriots operate really efficiently. The first is that Brady takes a discount because he has a rich wife. Pretty easy with the money she has, but I think part of it is Brady knows it will help them win and get him some endorsements to make up for it. Brady averages about 22 million a year right now. Rodgers is the highest paid QB at 33.5 million per year. Matt Ryan also makes 30 million a year. That's a big difference. Saving at least 8 million a year on an elite quarterback can also get you some higher quality in valuable positions.

The second is that the Patriots not only buy low and sell high on underrated players, but also on star rentals. They got Randy Moss at the lowest point of his career after two years in Oakland. He went on to set single season records with Brady. Darelle Revis came off a low point with Tampa Bay after he left the Jets. The Patriots snagged him up to complete their defense and win their first Super Bowl in 10 years. Blount stepped up for them after having a rough patch with Tampa as well. Brandin Cooks came from the Saints last year, Josh Gordon this year.

The point is the Patriots seem to know the perfect time to trade or sign more notable names in the NFL as well. Better than most teams I've seen. Effectively, they're the Wall Street alphas of the NFL. Never apologizing and living by the buy low sell high mentality to the fullest. Even with Brady and Jimmy G some people killed the Patriots for trading Jimmy last year, but this year there has been crickets.

Exactly.

With the exception of Tom Brady being an underpaid trophy husband for his rich wife , these are all moves that indicate the influence of a quant.

Post: #1394

Another thing I like about Brady is that he doesn't rely on the long ball as much as other QBs. His game is more patient and strategic than a young guy like Mahomes. He'll kill you with a million 8 yard short passes that will end up being a 10 minute drive, eating up any time left for a comeback.

Post: #1395

Well I sat by the legendary Green Panda through our beloved American Patriots vs the Knucklehead Stadium Chiefs nail-biter and saved my best Kristoff Nicaraguan with some Tullamore Dew Irish Whiskey chasers for the 4th Qtr/OT Victory Cigar Celebration. Winning the OT toss as Heads gave Brady all the time he needed to convert with Edelman, Hogan, Gronkster and then run Burkhead for the win. An epic classic of Brash Youth and Energy (Mahomes) versus Wisdom and Experience. Masterful to see Brady on the final 3rd Down Conversion in the OT Drive call his Kill Sign and change the play while Chiefs defenders were all yelling QB Sneak - Brady then ran Burkhead behind FB Devlin and Gronk blocking up to the 5 yard line for another first down and then again used Devlin and Gronk and the premier offensive line Brady Bought and paid for with his $15 Million discounted salary (And Deferred Compensation guaranteeing him a lifetime income) - White went in motion as a diversion and Devlin and the O line blew a wide open hole and Burkhead (another inexpensive white RB playing in the American Patriots system for SuperBowl Glory) bolted through for OT Victory.

Perhaps Belichick picked up some strategic wisdom when he watched his Dad coach at the USNA as Fortune favors the Bold in both love and war.

OBTW noticed how Mahomes ran into the locker room without congratulating Brady on his epic win? The Boston Sports media said that this extreme lack of sportsmanship may have been due to the fact that he and his team ran down to the locker room to have a good heartfelt CRY baby session - heard literally bawling their eyes out!

There is no Crying in Football - Alpha Men prepare, train, practice till perfect then put their heads into the battle, execute and win then come home and phock the Prom Queen.

This is Brady's 10th Trip to the big Show and he has only won 5 times - did he cry when he lost - Phock NO - he doubled down on his training The TB 12 Way (His Book) and came back smarter and stronger than ever and proves that at Age 41 skill, wisdom and experience beats youth and exuberance every time. Is it better to be Good or Lucky - Answer BOTH. Luck is what happens when your hard work and preparation meets up with opportunity.

Post: #1396

It was pointed out in reddit that many of the Patriots losses in recent years have been to teams who have their qb on a rookie contract. This isn't a coincidence. With Brady accepting much less money than hes worth, and with many players accepting a discount to play for the team, they are able to consistently put together a well rounded elite team. Had the Eagles been paying Wentz a non-rookie salary, they wouldnt have been able to field so many other offensive weapons last year.

So it's essentially a self perpetuating gravy train. Patriots win, their players accept less money to stay with winners, which let's them keep winning and attracting people willing to accept less money.



Like the Warriors, minus the bitchassness.

Post: #1397

Tiki Barber





is on Broadway.





walking a mile in someone else's boots.

Post: #1398

I like the post about Ernie Adams. He def has a philosophy of finding cheaper, less appreciated players that they can maximize.

However, its not just white players. They have also picked guys like James White (who won them that atl superbowl), malcolm butler and now sony michel.

They have an incredible formula.

Post: #1399

About the Rams game, it is definitely a tainted win. I know people tend to exagerrate things with the whole "the refs cost us the game" excuse, but that shit was egregious. Considering the Saint field position and the timing, I would say had that call been made, we'd see a Brady-Brees SB.

Post: #1400

(01-21-2019 05:08 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Tiki Barber





is on Broadway.





walking a mile in someone else's boots.

As a Giants fan, Tiki can suck a dick. He was locker room cancer and soft as shit. An abysmal announcer too, it's rare to hear someone as boring, uninteresting, and whiny as him. His cries for attention have reached desperate levels.