(02-25-2019 06:54 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  All that aside fellas. Real talk for a minute.

If you had a billion dollars in wealth. How hard would it be to do what Dan Bilzerian does times 100? Couldn't you fly in as many Asian women from Asia or have your yacht go get them? I don't have that kind of money, but if I did, it would be super fucking easy for me to get 10+ gals and have them constantly on standby down for whatever, whenever.

It's almost like these guys really are average joes in many ways. Their cunning and guile stops short in spots. He is old though and we all know by now that low Test equates to mental fog and poor judgement.

First I would do vanilla shit, like what you said about fucking 10s, then I'd go into more degenerate stuff like bringing in FOB asians on my boat, then on a container ship because they illegality would make it extra kinky. After a while I'd get bored of third world women with ringworms so I might piss on them, eventually getting bored with that and then start to shit on them. Because doing the same gets boring, I'd want to do western women because it's harder to convince Stacy to let me shit on her than Thuy or Ngoc. Invite your buddies over on the boat and make it rain on the hoes while you unload your brown load.

Essentially you would run standard Dubai deuce game?

What would I do if I was a billionaire? I’d probably get a party boat, throw parties and hire a club promoter to bring in hot girls and bang them all. I’m not sure to be honest, I’d probably try to find a woman who isn’t a gold digger to start making babies with and then have side girls from seeking arrangement but if I really was a famous billionaire, I’d probably have to get them their own apartments and even hook them up with easy jobs. Ita a good question to be sure

I don’t really get the fetish of shitting on girls. But whatever floats your boat

(02-26-2019 12:14 AM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  ^ It's well documented that Bilzerian was paying the girls, at least in the beginning.

Was he? Any links? Early on, he was also dating Playboy Playmate Jessica Hinton. With his looks, personality, and private jet, he wouldn't actually need to pay girls directly, although he himself admits he at times (but said it's not his thing). Have a look at his interview with Joe Rogan. A rich alpha guy with his personality and lifestyle is gonna get laid like a boss whether he's paying or not. Most of the "he's paying" chatter likely comes from jealous beta haters who can't fathom it.

^That said. Of course his instagram pics are a bit of a setup. This is true of most instagram profiles, including my own. And of course he's giving girls free trips places, but, what are you gonna do -- charge your girls to ride on your private jet?

Bilzerian probably doesn't pay the girls. They are all Instathots who volunteer to party with him so that they get more exposure. Not a bad deal.

(02-26-2019 11:31 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Bilzerian probably doesn't pay the girls. They are all Instathots who volunteer to party with him so that they get more exposure. Not a bad deal.

There is never a free lunch with pussy.

(02-25-2019 11:53 PM)Ceasar Wrote:  Yeah, I'd have to say, I'm not that impressed with what Bob Craft or Bezos are pulling... relative to what I do in the admittedly easier playing field of EE or SEA.

Bob Craft literally got cucked -- he bought his girlfriend a house in LA where she lives with her 1 year old baby by another man.

Dan Blizerian is in another category. I'm frequently jealous of what he pulls. He does waaaaay better than these guys. He's a natural with women, he's alpha, he's strong. Dude's already living at close to the max. You just aren't going to pull significantly more or hotter women, visit more interesting places, stay in nicer hotels, etc. etc. than what the guy is doing. You might be able to top him with $1billion, but there is no 100 times better.

Sure, he inherited $100mill. But the appeal to women isn't just his money -- it's day and night between him and Craft. The guy's a natural with women. Dude did go through Navy Seal training, although he f*cked up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAdp0DkORTE

Dan Bilzerian is going to be able to offer a more youthful alpha dog energy + experiences that Robert Kraft simply can't compete with. Sure if it is purely about money & gold diggers, Kraft has even more cash to play with, but both of them are rich beyond all of our wildest imaginations IMO. Splitting hairs at that level really. Only matters if we're talking about purchasing new jumbo jets or skyscrapers, etc.

Notice the victim in this case is actually the State of Florida.

I was wondering how they identified him and it was because after watching the massage, they waited for him to get in his white Bentley and then performed a traffic stop. Kraft has a private driver so he would have been sitting in the front passenger seat. A passenger in a vehicle does not have to produce identification. The driver would, but not the passenger. For a BS traffic stop, the officer would have no grounds to try and enforce / obtain the identification of Kraft. He should have refused or called his lawyer. He had just done an illegal act, and the vehicle he was driving in committed no obvious traffic violations and got stopped, and they came for HIS identification. He should have known the game was up at this point.

Instead, he switched up his disguise by arriving in a blue Bentley for round 2 the next day.

How do you roll up in a fucking 300k Bentley at a crappy rub n tug. Joe the plumber was probably just leaving in his '93 Toyota getting the same service from ling ling.

The police documents below say they obtained a "sneak and peek warrant", which authorized them to break into the massage parlor at night to secretly install video cameras.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneak_and_peek_warrant

The police can do all kinds of shady shit with this kind of warrant. This shit ought to be unconstithtional.

(02-27-2019 03:36 AM)frozen-ace Wrote:  Notice the victim in this case is actually the State of Florida.

I was wondering how they identified him and it was because after watching the massage, they waited for him to get in his white Bentley and then performed a traffic stop. Kraft has a private driver so he would have been sitting in the front passenger seat. A passenger in a vehicle does not have to produce identification. The driver would, but not the passenger. For a BS traffic stop, the officer would have no grounds to try and enforce / obtain the identification of Kraft. He should have refused or called his lawyer. He had just done an illegal act, and the vehicle he was driving in committed no obvious traffic violations and got stopped, and they came for HIS identification. He should have known the game was up at this point.

Instead, he switched up his disguise by arriving in a blue Bentley for round 2 the next day.

(02-25-2019 05:57 PM)redonion Wrote:  Kraft has supposedly hired Jefferey Epstein's lawyer to combat this misdemeanor charge.

Either Kraft is adopting the mindset of "reputation is everything" or this story is about to get a lot worse. His rep is pretty destroyed even if he gets off scot free.

He's a billionaire, it will be chump change for him. I think his biggest worry is that he can be sanctioned personally by Goodell.

(02-27-2019 06:36 AM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  The police documents below say they obtained a "sneak and peek warrant", which authorized them to break into the massage parlor at night to secretly install video cameras.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneak_and_peek_warrant

The police can do all kinds of shady shit with this kind of warrant. This shit ought to be unconstithtional.

(02-27-2019 03:36 AM)frozen-ace Wrote:  Notice the victim in this case is actually the State of Florida.

I was wondering how they identified him and it was because after watching the massage, they waited for him to get in his white Bentley and then performed a traffic stop. Kraft has a private driver so he would have been sitting in the front passenger seat. A passenger in a vehicle does not have to produce identification. The driver would, but not the passenger. For a BS traffic stop, the officer would have no grounds to try and enforce / obtain the identification of Kraft. He should have refused or called his lawyer. He had just done an illegal act, and the vehicle he was driving in committed no obvious traffic violations and got stopped, and they came for HIS identification. He should have known the game was up at this point.

Instead, he switched up his disguise by arriving in a blue Bentley for round 2 the next day.

The sketchiest part is how they got in to plant the cameras. Remember, a big part of their case is based on the girls living there full time, the couldn't plant them with the girls present. Turns out the called in a fake bomb threat to force them to leave.

(02-27-2019 12:04 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  The sketchiest part is how they got in to plant the cameras. Remember, a big part of their case is based on the girls living there full time, the couldn't plant them with the girls present. Turns out the called in a fake bomb threat to force them to leave.

Very shady. I have to wonder in the post-911 era what judges think of fake bomb threats to justify sneak & peeks. That and the "reasonable expectation of privacy" angle of filming inside a place of residence (even if was against zoning laws to live there) would have to be overcome. It's failed in Georgia on those grounds.

If I were a defense attorney, I would be interested to know whether any of the officers attended this recent police seminar about such operations, or one similar to it. Two of the instructors are from FL and have years of experience conducting these kinds of warrants. If the Jupiter police department paid for their officers to go to this and were on board with the techniques taught therein, I'd be looking at the possibilities for a civil rights suit in addition to getting the warrant thrown out.

Quote:When do government officials violate someone’s constitutional rights?

There are a variety of different ways a government official may violate someone’s constitutional rights. But most Section 1983 lawsuits and Bivens claims are brought when an official of the state or federal government violates someone’s Fourth, First or Eighth Amendment rights in one or more of the following ways:

Shootings by law enforcement officers against unarmed citizens and other cases of police brutality and excessive force

False arrests by law enforcement officers and malicious prosecutions when there is no probable cause or evidence of criminal wrongdoing

State and federal law enforcement officers searching through your house and seizing your property without a valid warrant

If you are a prisoner and you are beaten and injured by guards or if guards deliberately ignore your medical needs

Schools or government employers who punish or censor a student or public employee for exercising their right to free speech or religion

Kraft won't give a shit about suing them under that but any number of the other defendants might.

(02-27-2019 03:36 AM)frozen-ace Wrote:  

Am I the only one thinking that this unnecessarily vivid police report will end up inadvertently doubling the popularity of rub-n-tug massage parlors?

(02-27-2019 03:44 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 12:04 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  The sketchiest part is how they got in to plant the cameras. Remember, a big part of their case is based on the girls living there full time, the couldn't plant them with the girls present. Turns out the called in a fake bomb threat to force them to leave.

Very shady. I have to wonder in the post-911 era what judges think of fake bomb threats to justify sneak & peeks. That and the "reasonable expectation of privacy" angle of filming inside a place of residence (even if was against zoning laws to live there) would have to be overcome. It's failed in Georgia on those grounds.

If I were a defense attorney, I would be interested to know whether any of the officers attended this recent police seminar about such operations, or one similar to it. Two of the instructors are from FL and have years of experience conducting these kinds of warrants. If the Jupiter police department paid for their officers to go to this and were on board with the techniques taught therein, I'd be looking at the possibilities for a civil rights suit in addition to getting the warrant thrown out.

Quote:When do government officials violate someone’s constitutional rights?

There are a variety of different ways a government official may violate someone’s constitutional rights. But most Section 1983 lawsuits and Bivens claims are brought when an official of the state or federal government violates someone’s Fourth, First or Eighth Amendment rights in one or more of the following ways:

Shootings by law enforcement officers against unarmed citizens and other cases of police brutality and excessive force

False arrests by law enforcement officers and malicious prosecutions when there is no probable cause or evidence of criminal wrongdoing

State and federal law enforcement officers searching through your house and seizing your property without a valid warrant

If you are a prisoner and you are beaten and injured by guards or if guards deliberately ignore your medical needs

Schools or government employers who punish or censor a student or public employee for exercising their right to free speech or religion

Kraft won't give a shit about suing them under that but any number of the other defendants might.

Or he might secretly bankroll the other defendants and their efforts to sue.

"You come at the King, you best not miss." - Omar from The Wire.

Hope some team gives this guy a shot in the league. Years stolen by a fake rape accusation. Dude was a beast and would have been drafted if not for this.

Interesting that some SJW Activists just gave Patriot Football fans like me an early 2019 Christmas Present a Poll wrapped up in a big Socialist Red Bow... Some SJW bishes likely into soyboys and not the hardcore surging testosterone toxic masculinity of Professional American Football want Gillette to Drop its association with the NE Patriots... In the name of God Emporer Trump on behalf of Alpha Males everywhere please get every toxic masculine man like us and the women who love us to sign this petition so we can finally rid Professional Football of these Gillette Get Woke SJW Men hating socialists... Perhaps find a truly Alpha Male Dominated industry like our many New England Military Industrial Manufacturers who specialize in technology dedicated to killing our enemies like Al Qaeda and Isis Islamists, Chinese and Latin American Narco-Terrorists Cartels, Globalist SJW Cucks Soros et.al. and the CFRCs - Perhaps UA Sikorsky or Raytheon Patriot Missiles Stadium instead of the Gillete Neofaggery.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/03/05/...t-charges/

A web petition on Care2.com had garnered more than 13,000 signatures by Tuesday, demanding that Procter & Gamble — Gillette’s parent company — cut ties with the Patriots. An organizer of the petition drive noted the company’s recent venture into lecturing men about morality.

“We’re asking Gillette to stop sponsoring Gillette Stadium, the home stadium for the New England Patriots — owned by Robert Kraft, who was just arrested during a human trafficking sting operation,” the petition reads.

Kraft pleaded not guilty last month to soliciting prostitution charges in Jupiter, Fla., in connection with a sting targeting massage parlors staffed with Chinese women that authorities say were virtual sex slaves. In January, Gillette launched its controversial “Is This The Best A Man Can Get?” ad campaign that cited the #MeToo movement and took aim at so-called toxic masculinity, suggesting boys need to be taught not to be abusive.

Care2’s Rebecca Gerber said, “It’s nice to see a brand use their influence for good, but now it’s time to see if they will actually back up their words with action.”

“Robert Kraft believed his power would protect him from being held accountable for exploiting vulnerable women forced into sex slavery. This is exactly the kind of behavior Gillette said it will stand against,” Gerber said in a statement to the Herald. She said approximately 200 of the 13,000 signatories are from Massachusetts.

“The sting operation exposed that the workers, mostly from China, were lured to America with the promise of regular massage therapy work. However, when they got here, they were forced into performing sex work with few breaks, no days off, and in unhygienic conditions. Essentially, they were forced into sex slavery,” the petition continues.

Care2 bills itself as a network of campaigners to “fuel the progressive movement” on causes they care about. Other notable campaigns on the website include “Impeach Trump,” “Ban Plastic Beads At Mardi Gras” and “Tell Congress We Need A Strong Green New Deal.”

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Bottom line is this is the perfect vehicle for us to hoist these liberal SJW Pro AOC CFRC socialists on their own petards.

These Care2.com neofag lesbo-cucks think they are hurting us when we have been searching for a way to rid the Get Woke and Go Broke Gillette neofags from our hallowed combat sports grounds ever since they began flying their True Commie Red colors. Best way to get rid of Gillette is to get everyone you know to sign this petition whether they love or hate the NE Patriots we Toxic males need to rid these Get Woke Go Broke fools from our beloved combat sports that are most often the youthful training grounds for our future military defenders.

It is an interesting twist of fate with respect to the Gillette stadium sponsorship. It always gets complicated for liberals when they start waving one too many flags for causes that end up conflicting with each other.

Speaking of cucks, I did not know Bob Kraft appears to have been cucked by his girlfriend. They aren't saying who the father is but Kraft seems happier getting steam n creamed by middle aged Chinese women in strip malls than he did banging out Ms. Carousel Manjaw while he could.

Yo Soy Fiesta!!! I love Gronk as he worked hard and played hard. I know he will definitely enjoy retirement.

Nice tribute to the character and values of Barry Sanders.

Just caught "A Football Life : Barry Sanders" last week of NFL network. They are all good and well produced, but his story was really good. Shame the NFL turned into the SJW league. How I miss the 90s....

The Robert Kraft case has taken a new turn. When it was first announced all we heard about from the prosecution and mainstream media was “sex trafficking” and “human trafficking” which was the basis for the sneak and peak warrant. Kraft’s name was smeared through the mud in an attempt to ruin his reputation.

It’s a well known fact that prosecutors (local, state, and federal) routinely lie, embellish, exaggerate, withhold evidence, and twist the facts in an attempt to pump up their own cases or sway public opinion. Even lawyers on both sides will release fantastical, extremely strong worded statements that have no basis in reality. Recent examples of procedural misconduct include the Ted Stevens case (incredible procedural misconduct by the feds to make him lose his Senate seat), the Buddy case (feds lying and withholding evidence in a trial that would otherwise have been a slam-dunk victory), Aaron Swartz case (inappropriate level of punishment / overzealous prosecution even when the offended parties wanted the whole thing dropped), the Smollett case (dropped by the prosecution / Kim Foxx based on certain political pressure from insiders), Muller’s top prosecutor in the Trump investigation was Andrew Weissman...a man who made a career at winning cases no matter what the cost. Riding the waves of the media mob looking for justice after the Enron collapse, he engaged in egregious misconduct and destroyed the accounting firm Arthur Anderson. That case was famously overturned a few years later by the US Supreme Court in a unanimous decision, but Anderson was already destroyed. We are supposed to believe that the pursuit of justice is pure, sacred, untainted, and beyond reproach, when in reality it is dirty and selective. The Kraft case checks all the boxes for a great public lynching-> famous rich old white male billionaire...there is no way the prosecutors would ever drop this case. They will fight it to the end (on taxpayer money). As noted in the filings, the victim in this case is the State of Florida.

Now the prosecution in the Kraft case is quietly dropping all references to sex trafficking and human trafficking as there simply wasn’t any to begin with, which was the whole basis for the sneak and peak warrant. Kraft’s lawyers have argued that if human trafficking was really the issue (and the basis for the sneak and peak warrant), why not raid the place with the swat team and rescue the women?

(04-28-2019 04:22 PM)frozen-ace Wrote:  SNIP

Kraft’s lawyers have argued that if human trafficking was really the issue (and the basis for the sneak and peak warrant), why not raid the place with the swat team and rescue the women?

Solid gold right there. The police knowingly let women suffer in (alleged) chattel slavery for MONTHS just so they could arrest a few people? Would they do the same for child abuse?

For the record, not a fan of Kraft in the slightest.

Great observations Mr. High Hawk and Frozen-ace.

On another note, disapointed bur not surprised Nick Bosa cucked and deleted his "racist" tweets when he learned SF was going to pick him. He had a couple of good ones.

As I expected, that warrant, the traffic stop and the police evidence gathering methods in general is causing the case against Kraft to fall apart. Among other basic criminal procedure erors committed by the prosecution, apparently the massage parlor had legit services where even women got massages, but the police kept on recording them during the sting operation. The judge didn't like that much.

Quote:...Also on Monday, prosecutors admitted that police did in fact break federal law when they filmed individuals at Orchids of Asia who were not the recipients of any sex acts and instead just at the location to get a massage.

It was also revealed at that same hearing that 10 individuals who appeared to be soliciting prostitution were not charged after authorities determined the footage of the men was inconclusive.

There was no explanation however for the multiple women who visited the Orchids of Asia Day Spa back in January who were being watched by members of law enforcement.

Judge Hanser, the Palm Beach County magistrate who is overseeing the Kraft case, first revealed that there were fenmale clients caught on film last Tuesday.

It did not stop there either according to Judge Hanser, who wrote that 'more than one woman had a significant portion of her spa time viewed... and the entirety of her spa time recorded and placed in Jupiter Police Department record.'

This was problematic for a number of reasons, he went on to state, with the most glaring being the fact that 'the search warrant did not allege that women were seeking illegal contact.'

In the order announcing that evidence obtained from hidden cameras and a traffic stop of Kraft would not be permissible at trial, Judge Hanser also detailed the flaws in the warrant obtained by the Jupiter Police Department to conduct their sting operation.

'The fact that some totally innocent women and men had their entire lawful time spent in a massage room fully recorded and viewed intermittently by a detective-monitor is unacceptable and results from the lack of sufficient pre-monitoring written guidelines,' said Judge Hanser.

The number of women is not known at this time.

One of the men who wasn't looking for a steam-n-cream is suing. Can't blame him.

Quote:A lawsuit was previously filed by a male client however who claimed he was at the spa while the sting was being conducted by Jupiter police.

A complaint filed in federal court y by attorneys Edward Mullins of Reed Smith and Joe Tacopania of The Law Offices of Tacopina & Seigel on behalf of a John Doe, accuses authorities of violating Doe's Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure, Fourteenth Amendment right to procedural due process, and constitutional right to privacy.

Doe states that he was visiting the spa on January 19 for a massage that did not include any manual or oral sex act from a spa employee.

The filing, which was submitted in the United states District Court for the Southern District of Florida, goes on to state that Doe had a reasonable expectation of privacy as he undressed inside the spa and then received a massage while in the nude.

He is now seeking monetary, punitive and exemplary damages while demanding that no copy of any of the tapes showing men inside the spa be released to the press or public.

Doe also wants those tapes, and any copies, destroyed for good.

Just goes to show you how money helps you avoid jail when you would otherwise be on some trumped up BS charges. Glad this is making this ridiculous police tactic look bad. I just finished watching both seasons of "Making a Murderer", and this falls in line with the crap the police pulled there (although in MaM they were 100x worse). Just too bad he didn't have Robert Kraft kind of money.