(09-07-2018 03:06 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(09-07-2018 02:53 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Word everywhere is just how low enrollments are for youth football across the country. I heard of a high school not too far away from me that closed it's football program due to a lack of interested players.

Forget about all the Kapernick shit. That's the real threat right there to the NFL, not politics.

Could we see NFL end up being as small as hockey is? Who knows but it is headed in that direction.

Do you think that's part of the head injury scare or other reasons?

C......T.........E

If the NFL is really dying, I'm just glad I was alive to see its GOATs.

Nike sales are up, particularly online, in case anyone is wondering. Looks like Nike knew exactly what they were doing.

^^^^ Under Armor is the sport brand of choice for older white people, not Nike. I'm sure Nike knew that.

(09-08-2018 02:26 PM)Stirfry Wrote:  Nike sales are up, particularly online, in case anyone is wondering. Looks like Nike knew exactly what they were doing.

I'd be interested to see a link for that.

Reports are online sales "surge 31%" but this is a dishonest metric. Total sales are the real way to judge.


Personally I would never buy shoes without trying them on, maybe I'm not in the majority but I doubt it.

I doubt that there will be a surge from this crap. It will cost them in the US market, but the giant corporation will survive - especially since most of their market never heard of the campaign and does not care - heck in the US many people probably don't care. Sure - they may have lost some customers for life, but they will live.

Nike is so big that they can do 10 Kopernik-fauxpas per year and still survive - those slave labor North Koreans are working for next to nothing until their malnourished hands bleed, so they will be making just less profit.

Say what you will about the protest, that was imo a highly inspirational commercial.


I haven't spent much time in the US, but from my few encounters it seems the police is not as professional as they are in Norway.

Sitting on a bench in Austin, I got more or less chased away cause it was after 11. Okay, i'll respect the rules, no problems. But two fat cops with an attitude kind of pissed me off.

Another time stopped by cops in the highway due to a busted tail light.
No problem stopping me, but the overall experience from the way the cops handled did not seem that professional.

What I dont get is the race angel Kaepernicks takes, young black commit far more crimes than the rest of the population. That's just sadly how it is...

However I do support people right to protest, as this is necessary for a democracy to function.

(09-09-2018 08:58 AM)pants Wrote:  Say what you will about the protest, that was imo a highly inspirational commercial.

Inspirational commercial ---

Is it so inspirational that Nike gets a pass on using third world slave labor to produce shoes for nations full of fat people because they largely don't exercise?

The whole thing is a Con, the protests are a sham to make a mega-brand like Nike look like good guys for the sheep consumers. The commercials supporting it are nicely wrapped shite.

(09-09-2018 08:58 AM)pants Wrote:  

I find this TV spot nothing more but corporate-globalist propaganda:

+ oppression narrative
+ open borders refugee propaganda
+ pro Islam pro Hijab-is-empowering propaganda

All put into syrup of muh-inspiration.

Don't get me wrong - I respect LeBron, even Kaepernik or the Williams sisters for their talent and hard work, their results in the sport they chose.

But this kind of propaganda pushing has an ultimately different motive than simple inspiration. It's clearly political and even strong-handed at that.

And this being done by one of the world's globalist corporations is just showing you why the shitheads work as one from top to bottom. They are one with Antifa and the SJWs.





And while we are at Kaepernik - I don't like to use those labels, but that half-White guy is the very definition of a SJW-Oreo. He grew up in an all-White stable home and only later imbued himself with the SJW dogma similar to the progressives at college. From a business prospective this may be even a good choice, since he made millions more from NIKE than his active sports career.

I'm strictly talking about commercial.
If you want to muddy the water by bringing in any geopolitical angel under the sun, by all means..

Which sporting brands does not utilize cheap labor?

At the end of the day, they all do, cause that's the only way to stay competitive.

Here you are only making an argument for tariffs and regulation, which by the way I am all for.

SS;

People fighting their way to the top even if they are given a shit hand is to me inspirational.
Disabled people without hand playing at the top level in NFL, kids without legs still wrestling.

Its not necessary to bring in every geopolitical crises in the mix. Just people who got dealt a shit hand working their ass off to get where they want in life.

I know immigration is high on your political agende, and I would like very tight borders for EU, so no reason to start a discussion there.

< I don't mind the points you mentioned of course.

My propaganda tolerance level is just low - concerns not only commercials, but TV and Hollywood. This is rather heavy-handed even if they use real emotional themes on top of it. Most people will just swallow the bad with the good and make the next time a better association with the negative insane topics. It was not me who brought the refugee-theme into the commercial - it was them. They did this deliberately to push a certain topic. That is why they started slow with the disabled kids to pull you in before they fire the artillery in your fucking face - see one refugee became a world-class champion - letting in 200 mio. will be fine!

That is how propaganda works and I wonder how anyone cannot see this - it's blatantly Stalinist.

The inspiring parts simply don't pull me in just as Nazi or Stalinist beautifully shot emotional propaganda is not inspiring to me, because I know what is behind this.

fair enough,

It just seems exhausting if every snip of information has to be viewed through the lens of leftist propaganda.

The right is outraged about a black james bond? Does this also justify outrage on the right?

To me its just another movie. they made countless movies with Caucasian males, now they make one with a black guy. I dont really care.

On a micro level I dont have a problem with immigration, as 99% of the people I encounter from the middle east / Africa are just seeking a better life, which is exactly what I would do if I lived in a shit hole.

However, on a macro level I do see major issues. A segregated society broken down by ethnic groups. And a higher level of violence among the 1% of bad apples if enough to justify tight borders for the EU.

There is a much greater long term trend that will end professional sports in the next 2-3 decades:

https://www.gq.com/story/sperm-count-zero

Both sperm counts and testosterone levels are undergoing generational decline. Assuming linear projections (I know, I know, things are rarely linear, but bear with me on this!), sperm counts reach zero around 2045. Testosterone levels in males reach the high female range about the same time. Maybe a little earlier.

I would say this long term effect will have a very profound influence on the development of professional athletics.

(09-09-2018 09:33 AM)pants Wrote:  SS;

People fighting their way to the top even if they are given a shit hand is to me inspirational.
Disabled people without hand playing at the top level in NFL, kids without legs still wrestling.

Its not necessary to bring in every geopolitical crises in the mix. Just people who got dealt a shit hand working their ass off to get where they want in life.

I know immigration is high on your political agende, and I would like very tight borders for EU, so no reason to start a discussion there.

That's how liberals work. They take a group of people who might be inspirational in their own right, then assign to them a political agenda, thereby deflecting any criticism as an attack against some cripple who rose above his affliction. If it was just about people rising above handicaps, why have Colin in it at all? He rose above nothing. They're trying to equate Colin and his retarded political views (which are based on lies) with some kid beating cancer so it's harder to criticize.

It's weaponizing compassion and it's the mainstay of American liberalism because, for the last 70 years, it's worked like a charm.

(09-09-2018 10:02 AM)pants Wrote:  fair enough,

It just seems exhausting if every snip of information has to be viewed through the lens of leftist propaganda.

The right is outraged about a black james bond? Does this also justify outrage on the right?

To me its just another movie. they made countless movies with Caucasian males, now they make one with a black guy. I dont really care.

On a micro level I dont have a problem with immigration, as 99% of the people I encounter from the middle east / Africa are just seeking a better life, which is exactly what I would do if I lived in a shit hole.

However, on a macro level I do see major issues. A segregated society broken down by ethnic groups. And a higher level of violence among the 1% of bad apples if enough to justify tight borders for the EU.

James Bond is white. If you want to have a movie about a smooth British spy who's part of MI8 there's an infinite number of "00" possibilities besides 007 to assign without making it SJW bullshit.

There was nothing "inspiring" about that video. Serena Williams, greatest athlete of all time? lol She wouldn't even make the top 1000 in men's tennis even even with her decade plus of roid use.

Honestly, go buy and read Roosh's new book as penance for how silly your statement was.

Pants - you are likely a young guy who grew up in the cultural marxist wasteland indoctrinated since birth in some state gulags.

That is what non-political pro-masculinity commercials used to be just a mere 24 years ago:





And I would not care if 20% of the men were black with their sons - in fact I would be all for it. That ad personified the positive feeling permeating the West especially up until the 1950s when modernism and loving expectation for the future was so positive - that is why the people loved futuristic looking furniture and houses.

Now it's all self-hate, sniveling guilt-riding cultural marxism complete with more oppression bullshit that ultimately does not serve anyone jack-shit. And I don't even see disabled kids in sport as something to aspire to. A man without arms and legs being positive is indeed empowering, but I don't wanna see that shit in a sports apparel commercial. Do a commercial like Gilette about NIKE and I can guarantee you that you have a 10-20% boost in sales within one month.

That is what a lot of ads used to be - the current crap is not even disguised propaganda - it's a fucking Stalinist video and nothing else!

(09-09-2018 11:43 AM)achromaticmike Wrote:  There was nothing "inspiring" about that video. Serena Williams, greatest athlete of all time? lol She wouldn't even make the top 1000 in men's tennis even even with her decade plus of roid use.

The "greatest of all time" just HAD to be a woman. 3 years ago it would have been Ronda Rousey.

Mayor of Kenner, LA bans purchase of any Nike gear for use at city facilities:

IMHO, Nike was targeting the folks who were complaining about their sweatshop factories. This ploy certainly has shut them up and got them on board. They got played, hard.

Color of James Bond?: It's fiction. Artist takes artistic freedoms all the time... Why does it matter if James Bond is black?

I live in a marxist cultural wasteland?: I dont consider Norway a wasteland by any means. Marxist? I think we have a healthy balance between regulations and a free market.

Serena Williams greatest athlete of all time?: Of course she is not, best female tennis player through history, probably. However this is a commercial, not a history book. Not the first time I heard a motivational speech skipping the nuances for additional motivational effect.

Banning Nike apparel?: You really wanna abandon freedom of choice over a smal issue of initiated by a few people in the NFL? Funny how quickly someone want to abandon their principles over a smal social issue.

Bill Burr hilarious as always

Putting the politics aside for moment. The Giants rookie RB Saquon is going to be something special.

No one won a Libyan war or conquered the Burmese jungle in a pair of Nikes.

Kaperneck got a big payday for the commercial, multi-millions to be a corporate whore for Nike. The man need that cash money, Mr. Kaperneck as you gotta maintain that lifestyle as he rejects playing football in Canada to rent out a field and gym each day in jersey to workout and stay in football shape. This is same guy that took any endorsement to get his money up when on his rookie deal.

Let us contrast this to a other athlete who took a poltical srance that fucked with his professional career. Cassius Clay, aka Mohammed Ali had the weight of of the establishment on his neck for refusing the draft and openly calling out USA foreign policy in Vietnam. Ali, the anti-globalist at the time made note that he had no beef with Vietmnese people and didn't want to go over there and kill sny of them as they ain't do nothing to him. The ramifications was that that Ali lost all types of money, an Olympic Gold model, and spent time in jail for his views back in the day, that is real fighter regardless of your views on that subject. Ali lost some of his prime years and in those days big time money for his views but he held his frame and didn't back down.

Where was Ali's sack of money from big corporations? He never bent over from any corporate cock. Kaperneck took the money, this had nothing to do with the politics.