Post: #1

I hit up nightclubs with a couple of my good buddies pretty often. 2 of my boys are very good looking (no homo ofcourse), and i realised everytime I hit up a club with either one of them, the girls seem to eye the fuck out of them and clearly make themselves available to them. Now I am not bad looking, in fact I think I am good looking... but these 2 guys blow all the other guys out of the water. They're the types that if they are walking to the washroom, I would be surprised if they DIDN'T get approached or eye fucked hard.

My question is, other than having nice eyes, being 6'2, lean and well dressed, how the hell do you do this? It's so easy for them to pull from the club because of this, but for me pulling is rare simply because I am overshadowed by these guys.

What are some tips/advice on getting this attention/attraction? Sometimes I watch what they do and their body language, but I just can't seem to find them doing anything out of the ordinary. Seems like they do what I do.

Post: #2

They have an easier time because of their looks, so you need to step-up your game. Approach more, have better conversation, etc.

Post: #3

(09-05-2011 04:35 PM)Samseau Wrote:  They have an easier time because of their looks, so you need to step-up your game. Approach more, have better conversation, etc.

Exactly.

These things help:

Dress sharper
Carry more CASH
Have more Juice in the club
Exude more positive energy

Use your friends to your advantage.

Have them get a group of girls cooking and then hone in.

Post: #4

(09-05-2011 03:56 PM)1bliss Wrote:  I hit up nightclubs with a couple of my good buddies pretty often. 2 of my boys are very good looking (no homo ofcourse), and i realised everytime I hit up a club with either one of them, the girls seem to eye the fuck out of them and clearly make themselves available to them. Now I am not bad looking, in fact I think I am good looking... but these 2 guys blow all the other guys out of the water. They're the types that if they are walking to the washroom, I would be surprised if they DIDN'T get approached or eye fucked hard.

My question is, other than having nice eyes, being 6'2, lean and well dressed, how the hell do you do this? It's so easy for them to pull from the club because of this, but for me pulling is rare simply because I am overshadowed by these guys.

What are some tips/advice on getting this attention/attraction? Sometimes I watch what they do and their body language, but I just can't seem to find them doing anything out of the ordinary. Seems like they do what I do.

Go clubbing with uglier guys. It's simple. In that sense, you will look like Enrique Inglesias/Matthew Mconnaley (teh spelling??)/Morris Chestnut in comparison.

Don't fight the flow, work with it.

Post: #5

Offer the girls something they want. Imagine a fat girl asking this question. Women arent as visual but they are visual. Step you game up (dress, shape (hit the weights), image, demeanor, energy, vibe, and all that). The 2 guys can at most only take home 2 girls a night each lol.

Post: #6

(09-05-2011 05:41 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 04:35 PM)Samseau Wrote:  They have an easier time because of their looks, so you need to step-up your game. Approach more, have better conversation, etc.

Exactly.

These things help:

Dress sharper
Carry more CASH
Have more Juice in the club
Exude more positive energy

Use your friends to your advantage.

Have them get a group of girls cooking and then hone in.

So don't use the debit card at the bar and use the back of the receipt to figure the tip in?
When I see one of those guys it kills me. the only thing that kills me more is when some bitch rips the receipt out of his hand to see what the deal is..
Listen to G... CASH!!!! debit cards are for ladies

Post: #7

The thing is in the past not too long ago, half the time I would be at the club with 1 of them and I'd be getting the attention, the eyes, etc. But recently I'm feeling like girls are not physically attracted to me. I've had this feeling for the last few months to be honest, and I have no idea wtf is going on.

I keep trying to think back at the times when I was feeling it, but I just can't seem to put my finger on what I was doing differently, how I looked differently (maybe a different hair cut, different diet, different weight, etc).

Again, I am not bad looking, in fact I know I am good looking (according to many others), but I am trying to figure out what has gone wrong. How do you guys get back in the zone all the time, where the energy you're releasing just seems to be attracting all the girls? I really miss this.

Post: #8

(09-05-2011 05:51 PM)1bliss Wrote:  The thing is in the past not too long ago, half the time I would be at the club with 1 of them and I'd be getting the attention, the eyes, etc. But recently I'm feeling like girls are not physically attracted to me. I've had this feeling for the last few months to be honest, and I have no idea wtf is going on.

I keep trying to think back at the times when I was feeling it, but I just can't seem to put my finger on what I was doing differently, how I looked differently (maybe a different hair cut, different diet, different weight, etc).

Again, I am not bad looking, in fact I know I am good looking (according to many others), but I am trying to figure out what has gone wrong. How do you guys get back in the zone all the time, where the energy you're releasing just seems to be attracting all the girls? I really miss this.

Sounds like you are giving off bad energy.

I won't go out unless I am feeling 110%.

Even the best looking/smoothest cats are invisible if they give off negative energy. (Your humble author included).

Work on yourself first. You will know when you are ready to go out.

Post: #9

(09-05-2011 05:55 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 05:51 PM)1bliss Wrote:  The thing is in the past not too long ago, half the time I would be at the club with 1 of them and I'd be getting the attention, the eyes, etc. But recently I'm feeling like girls are not physically attracted to me. I've had this feeling for the last few months to be honest, and I have no idea wtf is going on.

I keep trying to think back at the times when I was feeling it, but I just can't seem to put my finger on what I was doing differently, how I looked differently (maybe a different hair cut, different diet, different weight, etc).

Again, I am not bad looking, in fact I know I am good looking (according to many others), but I am trying to figure out what has gone wrong. How do you guys get back in the zone all the time, where the energy you're releasing just seems to be attracting all the girls? I really miss this.

Sounds like you are giving off bad energy.

I won't go out unless I am feeling 110%.

Even the best looking/smoothest cats are invisible if they give off negative energy. (Your humble author included).

Work on yourself first. You will know when you are ready to go out.

I hit the gym 5x a week. I currently am a university student. I work part-time to pay for school + going out + looking sharp. Any advice on what else I can do to work on myself and get back in the zone?

Post: #10

(09-05-2011 06:22 PM)1bliss Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 05:55 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 05:51 PM)1bliss Wrote:  The thing is in the past not too long ago, half the time I would be at the club with 1 of them and I'd be getting the attention, the eyes, etc. But recently I'm feeling like girls are not physically attracted to me. I've had this feeling for the last few months to be honest, and I have no idea wtf is going on.

I keep trying to think back at the times when I was feeling it, but I just can't seem to put my finger on what I was doing differently, how I looked differently (maybe a different hair cut, different diet, different weight, etc).

Again, I am not bad looking, in fact I know I am good looking (according to many others), but I am trying to figure out what has gone wrong. How do you guys get back in the zone all the time, where the energy you're releasing just seems to be attracting all the girls? I really miss this.

Sounds like you are giving off bad energy.

I won't go out unless I am feeling 110%.

Even the best looking/smoothest cats are invisible if they give off negative energy. (Your humble author included).

Work on yourself first. You will know when you are ready to go out.

I hit the gym 5x a week. I currently am a university student. I work part-time to pay for school + going out + looking sharp. Any advice on what else I can do to work on myself and get back in the zone?

That is the trillion dollar question.

What makes you happy?

For me its:

Stacking a lot of chips
Getting a new Custom Suit made
Spending time with Family
Being on top of my sh*t
Traveling
Swooping fly girls
Boxing
Surfing
Working out
Reading
Writing
Relaxing

However, I can do all those things and still not feel great.

I touched on this subject a long time ago:

Components of a Magical Night http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2006/04/components-of-magical-night.html

Every person is different.

Post: #11

(09-05-2011 06:27 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 06:22 PM)1bliss Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 05:55 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 05:51 PM)1bliss Wrote:  The thing is in the past not too long ago, half the time I would be at the club with 1 of them and I'd be getting the attention, the eyes, etc. But recently I'm feeling like girls are not physically attracted to me. I've had this feeling for the last few months to be honest, and I have no idea wtf is going on.

I keep trying to think back at the times when I was feeling it, but I just can't seem to put my finger on what I was doing differently, how I looked differently (maybe a different hair cut, different diet, different weight, etc).

Again, I am not bad looking, in fact I know I am good looking (according to many others), but I am trying to figure out what has gone wrong. How do you guys get back in the zone all the time, where the energy you're releasing just seems to be attracting all the girls? I really miss this.

Sounds like you are giving off bad energy.

I won't go out unless I am feeling 110%.

Even the best looking/smoothest cats are invisible if they give off negative energy. (Your humble author included).

Work on yourself first. You will know when you are ready to go out.

I hit the gym 5x a week. I currently am a university student. I work part-time to pay for school + going out + looking sharp. Any advice on what else I can do to work on myself and get back in the zone?

That is the trillion dollar question.

What makes you happy?

For me its:

Stacking a lot of chips
Getting a new Custom Suit made
Spending time with Family
Being on top of my sh*t
Traveling
Swooping fly girls
Boxing
Surfing
Working out
Reading
Writing
Relaxing

However, I can do all those things and still not feel great.

I touched on this subject a long time ago:

Components of a Magical Night http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2006/04/components-of-magical-night.html

Every person is different.

shouldn't you tell him about the e-tabs?

Post: #12

(09-05-2011 09:52 PM)Samseau Wrote:  shouldn't you tell him about the e-tabs?

I haven't done that shit in years but I second the E-Bombs. Nothing picks you up and improves your mood better.

It's funny you say that because that's the mind-frame I try to get myself into nowadays without having resort to resort to party drugs.

It's a difficult experience to describe unless you've done it.

Post: #13

I know a swig of Scotch will get me in the right mood in no time, but you should not depend on any substance to get you going, otherwise you will feel like crap if you don´t have your fuzzy hat on.

Post: #14

I usually have a rule i try to follow.

Dont roll out with more than 1 guy far superior to you in looks.

More than one and you are just gonna be overshadowed and completely ignored / brushed off. Generally speaking.

I was always the best looking guy in my group and I ALWAYS had first choice of the girls we meet and would be the guy that always got OPENED in the club or consistently got IOI's.

This was when I had ZERO game and was still a complete newb when it came to closing the deal.

This includes when I was with my friend with the most game and always fucking numerous girls. Didnt matter, I still got first choice and was the center of attention.

My advise is DO NOT ROLL with more than 1 guy that is looks substantially better than you. Your just gonna make it that much more harder on yourself.

Or if you do, you need to break off away from your attractive friends and run solo game.

Post: #15

Dress sharp. You don't have to go the custom suit route. That's not for everybody but for god-sake buy a new dress shirt once in a while. Black collared dress shirt and new jeans(loose fit) and some nice shoes is the basic formula I use. It works everywhere.

I hang out in mostly a few local bars/pubs/lounges. Most guys there are jeans and t-shirt types. Some are wanna-be tough guys covered in tattoos. Scruffy looking with beards or goats.

If you show up in nice new clothes looking clean and sharp women will notice and smile at you more. Don't forget to shave and get a haircut.

Women have no shame if they're interested. They'll come right up to you and introduce themselves.

Don't be a douche.

Post: #16

Update... went to the club tonight with 2 other buddies who aren't as good looking as me to see whats up during frosh week downtown. Well, I am just not feeling it. We spoke to 2 hot brazilian girls in the beginning and left them after about 3-5 mins of convo because the body language was just not happening. They kept looking over all night though after that and when we approached them again, they were just not interested. After that, other than flirting with the bartender which always leads to nothing, I was just not in the zone, not feeling it like I haven't been in the past few months. Didn't feel like I was attracting much female attention, etc.

Man, something is up. I gotta get out of this slump.

Post: #17

(09-09-2011 01:59 AM)1bliss Wrote:  Update... went to the club tonight with 2 other buddies who aren't as good looking as me to see whats up during frosh week downtown. Well, I am just not feeling it. We spoke to 2 hot brazilian girls in the beginning and left them after about 3-5 mins of convo because the body language was just not happening. They kept looking over all night though after that and when we approached them again, they were just not interested. After that, other than flirting with the bartender which always leads to nothing, I was just not in the zone, not feeling it like I haven't been in the past few months. Didn't feel like I was attracting much female attention, etc.

Man, something is up. I gotta get out of this slump.

RELAX. Don't be too hard on yourself. You don't want to enter into a negative spiral. Your mind needs a little diversion and some fresh perspective. I'd suggest go do something you've never done before or haven't done in a long time like go-carting, swimming, volleyball or whatever whatever based on what you like. Make sure you do it intensely. When you go out don't be bothered by the recent slump or that you "have to score" tonight. Focus on having FUN, be your natural self and you'll soon find your rhythm.

Post: #18

In my experience, looks are not the end-all for women. Status is the end-all.

If other guys are beating you on looks, it means you're not doing anywhere close to the job you need to be doing on status. Tighten up your wardrobe. Tighten up your drinking choices so they reflect good taste. Have you considered changing your cologne? (Women respond much more to smell than men do.) Tighten up how you demonstrate yourself.

Hell, for that matter, just go balls-out and try to have fun more. A fun guy in a great suit, smelling perfect, drinking the good stuff and hanging out with other fun people will beat a good-looking guy most times.

As for not feeling it, sometimes you need to disengage. Women aren't the entire game. Building a good life is a biggie. Finding great hobbies is important. Developing new skills is important.

Game isn't about pussy. It's about self-actualization.

Post: #19

(09-11-2011 09:35 PM)mycleverid Wrote:  In my experience, looks are not the end-all for women. Status is the end-all.

If other guys are beating you on looks, it means you're not doing anywhere close to the job you need to be doing on status. Tighten up your wardrobe. Tighten up your drinking choices so they reflect good taste. Have you considered changing your cologne? (Women respond much more to smell than men do.) Tighten up how you demonstrate yourself.

Hell, for that matter, just go balls-out and try to have fun more. A fun guy in a great suit, smelling perfect, drinking the good stuff and hanging out with other fun people will beat a good-looking guy most times.

As for not feeling it, sometimes you need to disengage. Women aren't the entire game. Building a good life is a biggie. Finding great hobbies is important. Developing new skills is important.

Game isn't about pussy. It's about self-actualization.

Great comment.

Post: #20

I'd suggest instead of rolling with just dudes, roll with a bunch of hot women and you will outclass them like a the starship enterprise compared to a runabout.

Post: #21

I can pinpoint your sticking point: you are basing your success on external sources. When you seek validation from women and how they respond you will loose the majority of the time. You simply cannot let opinions and responses of other people you don't really care about dictate how you feel about yourself inside. Be independent of any outcome and realize you can be happy regardless of how things go. Embody this mindset and it will be a huge asset.

(09-09-2011 01:59 AM)1bliss Wrote:  Update... went to the club tonight with 2 other buddies who aren't as good looking as me to see whats up during frosh week downtown. Well, I am just not feeling it. We spoke to 2 hot brazilian girls in the beginning and left them after about 3-5 mins of convo because the body language was just not happening. They kept looking over all night though after that and when we approached them again, they were just not interested. After that, other than flirting with the bartender which always leads to nothing, I was just not in the zone, not feeling it like I haven't been in the past few months. Didn't feel like I was attracting much female attention, etc.

Man, something is up. I gotta get out of this slump.