Post: #126

(08-09-2017 01:57 PM)DirectDanger Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 12:28 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Oh - and he will never meet up because then his claims could be verified for what they are - bullshit.

Zelcorpion You have been on RVF for over 3 years and have almost 10,000 post. Have you met up with anyone from the forum yet?

Touche - 3 guys as of yet, but not the most busy men here. Though one has thousands of posts as well. Intend to remedy that and meet up many. But it is not because I have something to hide. I am strangely both screen-bound and traveling at lot in between. That means that I have to remain online for 80 hours a week, but only need to do surveillance on multiple screens. So the paradox is that I have time, but cannot step out too much out of the office, which explains the strange dichotomy.

Hope this changes soon.... I did almost 80 short business trips in the last 14 months and it got tiring after a while.

Post: #127

(08-07-2017 03:19 AM)Banna Wrote:  Think of the looks of women like different sports cars.....

A "7" would be a Corvette

A "8" would be a Porche 911 Turbo

A 9/10 Would be a Ferrari or Lamborghini

A Corvette can drive just as fast as any of those cars. While it doesn't cost as much it still has a good enough visual appeal to keep one happy.

Would an Asian 7.5 be a Nissan GTR? Hehe good post.

Post: #128

(08-07-2017 12:29 AM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  [quote='Travesty' pid='1626149' dateline='1502081139']

Chicks like guys with strong identities.

Chick (8+) I was sure had her in the bag, ended up with a likeminded dude (badboy vibe, piercing, tattoos, similar likes I guess). Oh well, plenty of fish in the sea.

Post: #129

(08-08-2017 11:32 AM)BrickLake Wrote:  If I approach a set of two girls. One a 6.5 and a stunning 9.
The 6.5 will look at me longingly with puppy dog eyes and go along with whatever bullshit I say.
The 9 will look at me with a look of suspicion bordering on contempt, dart her eyes around, and not want to engage.

I have the exact same problem except reverse the 6s and 9s. The 9s with the puppy dog eyes (and subsequest close.)

No shit, Im not joking or trolling. Nor am I complaining.

Post: #130

Well, the guy is banned so not sure if its even worth replying, but why not. I think it just depends on the goal, whether you're just trying to sleep with them or have a relationship with them.

For one night stands, you have to be pretty high value, lucky, or use all of your resources. Usually you'll have to get them liquored up and alcohol is mostly always involved. Or you have to use your resources for the clubs, etc. Pretty self-explanatory. It's pretty difficult to be an 8 or below yourself and wanting to get constant 8's for the night without really offering anything. Any guy in the city will take them home for the night, why you? You'll have to differentiate yourself by using your money.

For a relationship, it's gotta come through social circle. Finding girls at clubs or on tinder is just not the right basis to meet them, I think most 8+ already know every guy wants them for their looks, and will resist giving it up until comfort is built somewhat. Unless they just want some D for the night, which they can prob get anywhere, and if you're lucky its you. Mostly, you just have to give a time investment and security. They need to be shown they're not just going to be pumped and dumped. I recently heard of a friend who spent 2 Years trying to get an 8, and she finally said Yes after 2 years of denying him, and they really hit it off on the date. Every 8 has those guys, and has guys that are successful, good looking, etc. who want them for the night. You're niche has to be displaying that you're one of those successful, good looking guys thats also going to stick around long term. And that will take quite a bit of time investment into them.

Post: #131

(08-06-2017 08:17 PM)raynman Wrote:  this thread is pointless. I'll give my opinion regardless.
The solution to your problem is simply to move somewhere else:
If you are who you say you are and you can't get 8+ girls in the US then you'll find a plethora of 9+ girls in eastern europe who have spent many a night praying to the lord for a man of your exact specifications to come to them. If I were you I'd book a one way flight to Kiev or St Petersburg- if you haven't already done that.

C'mon bro don't dare to intoxicate the russian and ukcrainian girls with your United States Brainwash tips and superficial mentality. It will not be right do that in a so pure countries like russia and ukcraine. Leave our women alone and if you try to pollute their souls you will learn a real lesson or maybe get beaten up by muscled russian men. Beaware!

Post: #132

(09-06-2018 06:46 PM)tiagoneto Wrote:  

(08-06-2017 08:17 PM)raynman Wrote:  this thread is pointless. I'll give my opinion regardless.
The solution to your problem is simply to move somewhere else:
If you are who you say you are and you can't get 8+ girls in the US then you'll find a plethora of 9+ girls in eastern europe who have spent many a night praying to the lord for a man of your exact specifications to come to them. If I were you I'd book a one way flight to Kiev or St Petersburg- if you haven't already done that.

C'mon bro don't dare to intoxicate the russian and ukcrainian girls with your United States Brainwash tips and superficial mentality. It will not be right do that in a so pure countries like russia and ukcraine. Leave our women alone and if you try to pollute their souls you will learn a real lesson or maybe get beaten up by muscled russian men. Beaware!

Little Dark, is that you?

Post: #133

(08-07-2017 02:59 AM)birthday cat Wrote:  ^ I think you could break up game into two phases and the "strong identity" is the second phase although women are not the primary motivator in that phase.

Phase 1 is where you do the self-improvement stuff to raise your value and then you work on your game so that you can get girls at the same value. Maybe you are a male 6 who bangs mostly 5s and through a long process your raise your self to a male 7 who bangs 7s. Phase 1 might take years but it's really just going after the low-hanging fruit for the explicit purpose of getting women who are more attractive.

Then shit gets hard. You are looking at 5x or 10x the effort to move from 7s to 8s as it took to move from 5s to 7s. You try to convince yourself that it's a worthy goal but your subconscious knows better. I think the original post of this thread is just a long description of this. He's looking at logical and tactical things that will take him to the next level but his subconscious brain is seeing a whole lot of change (which the subconscious brain hates) for a minimal reward.

I think Phase 2 is more about inner game. It's the "be yourself" game that people hate to hear about. They don't understand that "be yourself" game is about being yourself after you spent years changing yourself into the person who you really wanted to be and something about that triggers women's desire for confidence and security. There is a huge difference between faking confidence, abundance mentality, and the ability to walk away versus actually having these things. I've faked this stuff with a couple of girls who were higher value than me but it didn't last long. You might be able to fake it for a short time but you can't fake it for long. And if you are playing out of your league then your high value girl will likely be the one with psychological problems which means that she isn't truly a high value in the context of a relationship.

I think Phase 2 is all about the "strong identity" but you don't get there because of your desire for women. You get there because you have a burning desire to become a different man and getting higher value women is something that naturally happens after you go through that process. You might go through Phase 2 and decide you want to bang hotter girls but you might go through Phase 2 and decide you want a wife and kids. You may not know because you are focused on yourself and your mission. Women are a secondary concern.

Phase 1 is like upgrading but Phase 2 is changing. It's much more difficult and much more painful.

OP is a self-made millionaire and he gets all the 7s he can handle but if you read his posts you see that he is incongruent. He doesn't know what he wants. He doesn't have this strong identity. He talks about maintaining relationships but he meets girls at bars and through Tinder. He talks about night game but improving his physique seems to be the one thing that he hasn't done. I think he's already gone after all the low-hanging fruit. He's done all the upgrades. Now he has to decide if he wants to go through the painful process of changing.

This is a bit off-topic but I think this book that I've written is one reason that it is very natural for older men to be with younger women. A woman's peak value is during her peak physical state but a man's peak value is after he has gone through this process which takes a lot of time.

Post: #134

I think there's some beneficial things to this post by the OP. Main being "Who buys?" Is it the woman or the man. Assuming a man has a couple of million and can't get girls 8+ it's because he's maxed out his selling value.

I think you can sell yourself (game, charisma, wealth, lifestyle, etc) to girls 7 and below. But to get girls 8,9,10 you need to get them to sell themselves to you.

The concept is the same as Apple. They don't need to sell themselves anymore. Other companies do by offering better cpu, camera, ram, hard drive and so on.

The key is going from a Lenovo/Asus laptop to an Apple and how to do that.

Some people say it's lifestyle, some say it's money etc.

I think it's a mindset, but very hard to explain. I'm not quite there but I'd like to hear from some players that are. I'll explain further if no one does, but it'll be weakened by the fact that I haven't been able to do it consistently.

Post: #135

I want to know what the OP considers an 8, 9 or 10

Post: #136

Hey guys, do you think Roosh may have banned Elon Musk?

Post: #137

If you're only getting numbers and makeouts, then your game isn't even as good as you think. You just seem like a narcissist that's full of himself. But in actuality you're probably lame in real life. Obviously the money will attract women initially, but if you've got a shitty personality it won't get you anywhere.

You say you've "interacted with thousands of women"... So what does that mean? You only talk to women? Wow, congratulations on just talking to women. Unless you're having sex with these women, any other interaction is irrelevant. Gay hair stylists interact with women everyday too

Post: #138

Is there such thing as an internet entrepreneur that is not bad with people/women?

I've never met one.