Post: #26

Isn't Tel-Aviv in the Middle EAST!

Post: #27

(08-04-2017 12:46 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 12:26 AM)bruce_almighty Wrote:  John Michael, I actually didn't know that Jewish American girls are aggressive too... I thought it's an Israeli thing.
In Israel as a Jewish person you're expected to find a Jewish partner, but given everything I've mentioned it seems like pretty low ROI.

Jews in the United States are very leftist as a whole, far more than in Israel. Simply put, Israel is in a rougher neighborhood, so I think there's more abrisiveness there just from living in a small country that has seen a lot of conflict. You'll see more aggressiveness in Israel because Israeli Jews are more street smart in general, whereas most Jews in the United States are quite soft, except for the hardcore feminism of Jewish American chicks. Honestly, I have yet to meet a Jewish girl in her 20's that isn't a hardcore leftist.

Jewish girls in the United States are massively spoiled. Usually they are complete daddy's girls, making sure to spend his money on top of trying to spend yours. They even have a term for it: JAP. Jewish American Princess. I've dated a few JAP's and found them wanting. Extreme entitlement and massive leftist politics don't agree with me.

Quote:ProGambler, There was a massive immigration from the Russian bloc that's true. But trust me, I've been to Russia a few times and their aggressiveness is nothing like in Israel. Even here I go to Russian night clubs and it's a whole other thing.. the rejections I get from Russian-Israeli women seem far less harsh than from native ones.

That's hardcore. I've worked with and known a lot of Russians. They are a hardass people. It makes it sound unenviable for guys in Isreal. Do you find that arab/Christian/Muslim girls in Israel more approachable?

Quote:Seth, no idea. At this point in life I don't see it as the best option for me.
After tasting high quality pussy abroad, and with quitting my job and going to South America soon, I'm gonna give it my best efforts to develope an online business and live elsewhere and probably find a non jewish partner.

Interesting that you say that. I've known more than a few Jewish guys who ended up marrying non-Jewish girls. Every one of them, to a man, quoted that their parents and society pushed them to marry Jewish, but the Jewish girls were a pain in the ass. I wouldn't blame a Jewish dude for looking elsewhere.

Now that I think about it this is somewhat true. It does seem like every time I look up some vile prominent feminist ala Lena Dunham, they always end up being of Jewish descent. In fact it does seem like a substantial amount of Western feminist are Jewish. Maybe it's the combination of their high IQ and fact that most Jewish men, especially those in the West are whimps, can explain why a lot of Jewish women seem to adopt a leftist mentality.

Post: #28

Everything is context related.
London and NY are 2 of the best cities in the western world to game in, so no wonder you had luck with them there but they turned cold on you in Tel Aviv.

Post: #29

Good post Bruce.

Go to Israel for the (ancient) culture and history.

When an American goes to Europe, they're always impressed by how old it is. Much of the famous sites in Europe were built in the 1600's or 1700's or earlier in many cases, which is always impressive for an American.

But then you go to Israel and the sites there are 2,000 years old. That's pretty cool. All these historical sites and ancient culture are outside Tel Aviv.

Like India (granted I've never been, but from what I've heard), go for the culture, and not for the girls.

Post: #30

Strange, I went to Israel and had a great time. Made a lot of cool friends and the girls were sassy but just needed some game to shut them up.

Can't you snag some JAP on birthright?

Post: #31

(08-04-2017 07:30 PM)Llama Deam Wrote:  Maybe I am just weird, but I actually like Jewish women. The ones I meet in London are always intelligent, fun and easy to bang. I also had a positive experience with them in New York as well.

Israel was a little different. The women in Jerusalem were painfully average and somewhat conservative. Not exactly a friendly city to game in. Tel Aviv was a bit better in that regard and I thought there were plenty of good looking girls but I generally found the women cold. With Israeli women it seems as though you have to get them while they are abroad.

Plenty of hot Jewish girls around in the UK - case in point this one with her sister:





And she is even sort of sane.

Post: #32

Israeli girls are a guility pleasure for me. Many have a latina style body. Tel Aviv is a city that attracts me for things other than game though.

Post: #33

I am a Russian Israeli, it's an amazing country, it's sad that the culture puts women on pedestal like in any western country in addition to the Middle Eastern and Mediterranean influence. It wasn't like that in the 80's and even 90's. High smv men compete for low smv women. Sad but true.

Post: #34

(08-04-2017 04:50 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  You can do it like the so-called Western Euro-jaunter. You live in a Western city with lesser options, but then you travel frequently via cheap long-in-advance booked flights and fuck the hottest girls in EE,FSU, South America, Asia - in those areas.

Then later if you want to settle down or meet a girl, then you get yourself an EE, FSU girl. Some even look Jewish like a friend of mine - but in a hot way - she married an Israeli and works there already. Sure - his parents preferred a Jewish girl, but she has an IQ above 120, so they will live.

That way you get the best of both worlds.

Maybe I'm paranoid, but isn't bringing a foreign girl into Israel with me will make her lose her nice traits and go bad? because of the culture here and the abundance and the endless validation she'll get.

Post: #35

I dont you guys but i would love to find Jewish woman in Israel or anywhere around for long term relation, Jewish people IQ is higher than in normal person maybe could start business with her in future and make some good money lol.

Post: #36

(08-08-2017 02:35 AM)bruce_almighty Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 04:50 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  You can do it like the so-called Western Euro-jaunter. You live in a Western city with lesser options, but then you travel frequently via cheap long-in-advance booked flights and fuck the hottest girls in EE,FSU, South America, Asia - in those areas.

Then later if you want to settle down or meet a girl, then you get yourself an EE, FSU girl. Some even look Jewish like a friend of mine - but in a hot way - she married an Israeli and works there already. Sure - his parents preferred a Jewish girl, but she has an IQ above 120, so they will live.

That way you get the best of both worlds.

Maybe I'm paranoid, but isn't bringing a foreign girl into Israel with me will make her lose her nice traits and go bad? because of the culture here and the abundance and the endless validation she'll get.

Depends on the woman and whether she moves there on her own. Of course she would have to be basic Red Pill accepting and you can find such women easily enough. Also why should you move her to Israel if you were not planning a family the instant she unpacks?

I don't know if you realize that, but the majority of even mail-order brides are still married - Western men with zero Game getting Thai women and they have a better chance of happy marriage than with a local woman.

So of course a Red Pill man with Game should be able to select the girl well - some will adhere to their sets of beliefs even in the West. You would have to be more concerned about your daughters than your future wife.

Post: #37

(08-08-2017 02:35 AM)bruce_almighty Wrote:  

(08-04-2017 04:50 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  You can do it like the so-called Western Euro-jaunter. You live in a Western city with lesser options, but then you travel frequently via cheap long-in-advance booked flights and fuck the hottest girls in EE,FSU, South America, Asia - in those areas.

Then later if you want to settle down or meet a girl, then you get yourself an EE, FSU girl. Some even look Jewish like a friend of mine - but in a hot way - she married an Israeli and works there already. Sure - his parents preferred a Jewish girl, but she has an IQ above 120, so they will live.

That way you get the best of both worlds.

Maybe I'm paranoid, but isn't bringing a foreign girl into Israel with me will make her lose her nice traits and go bad? because of the culture here and the abundance and the endless validation she'll get.

Why don't you try to date a religious woman from a place like Jerusalem or Shomron? Their culture is different than Tel Aviv.

Post: #38

(08-08-2017 10:53 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  I don't know if you realize that, but the majority of even mail-order brides are still married - Western men with zero Game getting Thai women and they have a better chance of happy marriage than with a local woman.

So of course a Red Pill man with Game should be able to select the girl well - some will adhere to their sets of beliefs even in the West. You would have to be more concerned about your daughters than your future wife.

Roosh recently wrote about this:
http://www.rooshv.com/the-hunt-for-a-moral-woman

Once you take this kind of girl out of her natural habitat into the westernized world of abundance there is a change she'll go bad.

Zelcorpion, what are your main ways of determining if a girl you want to "import" is worthy of this import?

Post: #39

(08-08-2017 12:53 PM)bruce_almighty Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 10:53 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  I don't know if you realize that, but the majority of even mail-order brides are still married - Western men with zero Game getting Thai women and they have a better chance of happy marriage than with a local woman.

So of course a Red Pill man with Game should be able to select the girl well - some will adhere to their sets of beliefs even in the West. You would have to be more concerned about your daughters than your future wife.

Roosh recently wrote about this:
http://www.rooshv.com/the-hunt-for-a-moral-woman

Once you take this kind of girl out of her natural habitat into the westernized world of abundance there is a change she'll go bad.

Zelcorpion, what are your main ways of determining if a girl you want to "import" is worthy of this import?

To me that is extremely easy, because I go into LTRs only with very spiritual girls. By the same criteria I could find a spiritual girl from Tel Aviv or LA and it would be fine. The women in EE and FSU give you better mental options and Roosh pointed it out in the article to pick a girl with a fixed strong moral set of beliefs. He thinks a religious basis is good, I think that a combination of several options is equally good.

So long as you pick a girl that is not too far away from your local market value, then you will be fine. The spiritual ones don't throw away good men just because they can.





I know that reality TV series are often scripted, but this one has a basis in reality - the girl was a Mormon virgin and came from rural Brazil. With her 8+ looks she could have easily upgraded in the US. But why should she do it, since she has a good heart and tries to be spiritually pure without desire to ride the hypergamy carousel?

https://twitter.com/kirlyam_?lang=de

I have zero dumping angst of any sort. I am in a LTR with a girl who is motherhood material and have trained her to accept threesomes. I told her that if our bond ends then I am going to find a younger and prettier girl. But I remember my old Beta-frame days where I was not aware of the most basic female thought patterns - it was partly like a blind man stumbling through the night, because you did not know what the fuck was going on. Even when going out it was a hit-and-miss kind of thing. Now with Game and Red Pill you know, but at best you do mistakes because of lack of experience, but you know what was badly calibrated.

The funny part is that even my girl now sees and understands good and bad Game - you can even observe it on TV as well as in real life. Red Pill girls also see relationship and behavioral patterns of other girls.

Very spiritual girls are sometimes a bit like monks or nuns who try to be good most of the time. But I understand that most humans don't roll in the same crowd, so religious bent of some sort is a good approximation. Judaism is however a bit tough (unless you want to go orthodox) - I would go for the girls with some spiritual bent of Cabbala who meditates, contemplates or is a bit new agey.

In EE and FSU it would be the orthodox Christian girl, since that religion is less cucked.

Post: #40

(08-08-2017 02:10 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  I have zero dumping angst of any sort. I am in a LTR with a girl who is motherhood material and have trained her to accept threesomes.

Many forum members would say these are matter and anti-matter. Perhaps it's datasheet time?

Post: #41

(08-08-2017 02:16 PM)Jetset Wrote:  

(08-08-2017 02:10 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  I have zero dumping angst of any sort. I am in a LTR with a girl who is motherhood material and have trained her to accept threesomes.

Many forum members would say these are matter and anti-matter. Perhaps it's datasheet time?

I doubt my expertise in that matter is overly special. I have another Red Pill buddy with Game who got this as well with his girlfriend. It does not seem to be much of an issue with a girl who is preliminary open to it. Their biggest fear is always that you might leave her for a younger hotter girl - not the sex in itself.

Also - some girls are certainly not open to it no matter what, but you can find that out right away.

Post: #42

Like storing dynamite, Zel. Put it an a box and forget about it, but over time it becomes unstable and all it takes is a bump to end the whole thing in tears.

If you think this girl will be ok with you bringing 20y.o girls home when she's 30 and has all the physical/mental wear and tear associated not only with the passage of time itself but the birthing and raising of several children then I can only wish you the best of luck.

Maybe it will work. Probably it wont. She'll agree to it now because there's little to nothing on the line, but in agreeing to it she'll be unwilling to re-negotiate later and the bitterness will build under the surface until one day she explodes. In 10 years time "we made a deal" isn't going to mean squat when you bring home a smoke-show that makes her look like a worn out old hag.

Are you willing to bet your children's future on this just so you can tap some strange?

Post: #43

Israeli girls are very hot, OP must be into blondes, because Tel Aviv beach is as good as it gets anywhere.

Post: #44

(08-08-2017 11:03 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Like storing dynamite, Zel. Put it an a box and forget about it, but over time it becomes unstable and all it takes is a bump to end the whole thing in tears.

If you think this girl will be ok with you bringing 20y.o girls home when she's 30 and has all the physical/mental wear and tear associated not only with the passage of time itself but the birthing and raising of several children then I can only wish you the best of luck.

Maybe it will work. Probably it wont. She'll agree to it now because there's little to nothing on the line, but in agreeing to it she'll be unwilling to re-negotiate later and the bitterness will build under the surface until one day she explodes. In 10 years time "we made a deal" isn't going to mean squat when you bring home a smoke-show that makes her look like a worn out old hag.

Are you willing to bet your children's future on this just so you can tap some strange?

Yeah - no arguing about that. If your wife is 45 and you bring home an 18 year old, then this might only work if she herself is actually into sex with women - some women are - mine is. But of course after a time the rift may be too big.

So of course I will do the decent thing and keep the 18yo to myself - fuck her in private.

Or as I put it to mine: "It's not my fault God/The Force decided for you to have a man who likes to fuck other women. Take it up with the Divine Hierarchy - I am but a humble cog in the machine."

Post: #45

(08-09-2017 12:17 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Israeli girls are very hot, OP must be into blondes, because Tel Aviv beach is as good as it gets anywhere.

I have a saying: "A brown cock loves a pink pussy and a brown pussy loves a pink cock".

As a man with a brown cock, I agree with you. Though I like brown girls too.

This thread got me thinking. The average Israeli might not be attractive, but if you go to the right places you find the attractive ones.

E.g:
1) The beach (the good beaches)
2) High end clubs
3) Russian clubs
4) Etc

However over there the game is HARD due to various reasons I've mentioned.

Post: #46

2 sides to every coin. I have an American (not Jewish) buddy who travels to TA for work every month or so. He is tall, good looking and has a very generous expense account.
Just uses Tinder to pipeline and bangs at least two 8-10s per visit.

If you're foreign, tall, fit and blonde (to distinguish from the locals who all are in great shape and look good), you can kill it with ease in TA with very hot women.

If you are timid, not in shape and don't party, forget it.

Post: #47

Unfortunately, I haven't been to Israel yet, and as far as I remember my experiences with Israeli girls is limited to one (abroad). She was a rich bitch with doble nationality (American/Israeli), but born and bred in Tel Aviv, did her military service, the whole lot, although she later moved to NYC. She was about a 7 and she was submissive because she had the hots for me (and she was great in bed to boot), but I could see how she could become a bitch with someone she wasn't horny for. For starters she loved to criticize other people, never a good sign. Like I said, easy and good in bed (contrary to what's been said here), but I pity whoever ends up marrying her.

Post: #48

(08-10-2017 05:20 AM)NickDunne Wrote:  2 sides to every coin. I have an American (not Jewish) buddy who travels to TA for work every month or so. He is tall, good looking and has a very generous expense account.
Just uses Tinder to pipeline and bangs at least two 8-10s per visit.

If you're foreign, tall, fit and blonde (to distinguish from the locals who all are in great shape and look good), you can kill it with ease in TA with very hot women.

If you are timid, not in shape and don't party, forget it.

It's an aggressive culture for sure.

Post: #49

Yeah... but not aggressive in terms that it's not safe or that you will be bullied or so. It's just that if you are western-polite, the girls will not even notice that you're trying to hit on them. And they will have a whole arsenal of brutal rebuttals.

Post: #50

(08-10-2017 11:16 AM)NickDunne Wrote:  Yeah... but not aggressive in terms that it's not safe or that you will be bullied or so. It's just that if you are western-polite, the girls will not even notice that you're trying to hit on them. And they will have a whole arsenal of brutal rebuttals.

Yes, that's what I mean, it reminds me of other Med cultures where the women are used to constant catcalling and at the same time, they are somewhat conservative in their (public) morals. They'll dress up really sexy but it's a mirage.