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(07-24-2017 01:13 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Suicide among musicians really seems to be confined to white rockers. You don't see too many rappers offing themselves lol.

I wonder why....

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Meteora was the first album I bought. Loved Hybrid Theory too. I don't recognise any of their stuff beyond 2004 Jay-Z mash up. It doesn't exist to me.

Post: #53

(07-24-2017 01:56 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(07-24-2017 01:13 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Suicide among musicians really seems to be confined to white rockers. You don't see too many rappers offing themselves lol.

I wonder why....

Eric Sermon from EPMD attempted suicide in 2001: http://www.nme.com/news/music/epmd-1378522


R and B artist Houston attempted suicide in 2004/5. He was stopped by security and famously started gouging his eye out with a fork: http://www.mtv.com/news/1496457/rb-singe...e-attempt/

Brother of Sticky Fingaz and Onyx affiliate X1 killed himself in 2007.

Rapper Earl Hayes committed suicide after murdering his VH1 star wife while on facetime with Floyd Mayweather: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/...mself.html

Those are the ones I remember but I don't pay attention to hip hop anymore. I'm sure there are more with how soft kids are these days. It's not just a white rocker thing, they are just always higher profile when it happens.

Post: #54

(07-24-2017 01:36 PM)churros Wrote:  Suicide is the only authentic thing Chester Bennington ever did.

I don't agree. This was a man who was molested as a child and never got over the pain. It's hard to judge unless you've walked his shoes. But this song, at his concert, one of his last, feels very authentic to me.

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(07-24-2017 01:36 PM)churros Wrote:  

(07-24-2017 01:13 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Suicide among musicians really seems to be confined to white rockers. You don't see too many rappers offing themselves lol.

Nu-metal: in a degrading appeal to authenticity, Jon Davis of Korn wears child molestation on his sleeve. He openly cries about his dad on Korn's first album. It was edgy at the time.

Not exactly true, it was his stepmother:

He also spoke of having a horrible relationship with his stepmother.[11][12][13] He said she used to harass him and torture him, giving him tea mixed with Thai hot oil and jalapeño juice to drink when he was sick.[11] Davis's father later divorced her.[11][13] He says the song "Kill You" was written about her.[11][12][13] Davis has said that his earliest musical inspiration as a child was the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical Jesus Christ Superstar, and his favorite musical group was Duran Duran.[14] He graduated from Highland High School in 1989. He also attended the San Francisco School of Mortuary Science for a period of time. He was persistently harassed in Highland High School primarily by jocks for being different by wearing eyeliner, long clothes, and listening to new wave music.[14][15] He was teased, harmed, and beaten. Davis also was constantly called homophobic names.[14] The Korn song "Faget" was inspired by Davis' experience of being bullied.[16] Davis' "HIV" tattoo on his upper left arm was also inspired by his experience of being bullied. Davis says even teachers were mean to him and sent him to the counselor for wearing eyeliner.

Davis' childhood is a major influence on Korn lyrics. The song "Daddy" gave rise to a rumor that he was molested by his father, Rick Davis. However, Jonathan has gone on record in many interviews saying he wrote the song about a female family friend who sexually abused him. He said that when he tried to turn to his family as a child to tell them about the abuse, they shrugged it off and didn't believe him.

Post: #56

(07-24-2017 06:34 AM)Fuckyea Wrote:  xmlenigma

Could you elaborate on your last paragraph?

Quote:There are many mechanisms that different cultures have used to deal with such phases.. And from research and predictions more people will go through such stuff in this era... lets hope they find the right means to dig themselves out..

I've spent a lot of time exploring dark corners of the inner world.. in that journey experienced despair as well as bliss (spiritual light.. ).. Lots of meditation, yoga, reading, cognitive.. reading about the "spiritual" pathways..

E.g. Native American depressed fellow taken to Medicine Man.. He just asks.. When was the last time you Danced or Sang with joy? (Ergo.. stifled energy needs to express and experience something as simple as that to have a joyous experience)

Cultures that always got together at night, sat around a fire and talked or Sang or danced.. After a hard day of work.. it was "community" together..

Famous Warrior Emperor is told about Zen Master and his wisdom, so he goes to seek.. asks.. about Heaven & Hell.. ZM says, WE is smart enough to understand.. Angry.. raises sword.. ZM - smiles, "now you are in hell".. WE realizes, sword drops to ground and smiles.. ZM - smiles, "now you are in heaven"..

Mediation, Zen, Yoga, Prayer, Community "belongingness".. (Sad - when someone passes communities come / stay for support OR Happy events - celebrations/ weddings/ Bdays / Festivals), Spiritual/ Philo books etc.. Evey culture / region have their flavor of things to PREVENT and FIX "isolationism & depression"

https://www.google.com/search?client=ope...8&oe=UTF-8

Tons of research/ medical / govt organizations point out depression is on the rise and will continue to do so.. "statistical forecasting" (There are ancient scriptures that predicted humanity will face such a time)...

At the height of humanities "rise in comforts" we are worse off than ever before.. by the state of our minds..

https://youtu.be/zEN4hcZutO0?t=88 - Look how these cocoa farmers are joyous in simple living..