Post: #26

(06-20-2017 03:38 PM)brick tamland Wrote:  14 threads and counting? Where's the give and take?

I'm learning this stuff so I mostly take. When I'm better at it I will give some information back. Only thing I have to give at the moment is my gratitude. Sorry but at the moment my advices might not be very good so I keep my mouth shut.

(06-20-2017 03:38 PM)brick tamland Wrote:  Here's my version - There's a barrier that you're not overcoming. Slowly think about what's making her not go all the way. Go into the smallest details. And you better hope that she doesn't get comfortable with putting up the last minute block, with you accepting it. That's the worst outcome. You'll have to create some tension, that she'll want to break by giving you the bang.

Not letting her be comfortable with this resistance is good point.

Post: #27

Thank you. There were many good advices in this thread.

After reading all of it my current plan is to give her some comfort (maybe she is conservative girl after all) but not give her more than 2 or 3 dates. I will hard next her after this time.

So I will ask her to come with me for bicycle ride in the park (comfort part to show her that I'm not only about sex). Then if mood is right I will take her my place if not I will drive her home, give her 5 second kiss at the end and set up next date at my place with wine and sweets. During this date I will try to turn her on and go for the bang again.

Post: #28

I call this a pumped-and-dumped bitch syndrome. Most likely, this particular girl has been dumped many times during her cock-riding career and as a result, has developed a defense mechanism. If she feels that your only desire is to drill her, you will have increasingly hard time to get the notch. I did some A/B testing with similar girls and came to the conclusion that there are two completely different courses of action.

Method 1: OP mentioned about "freezing". This only works if you stay in a frozen mode for a longer period than OP did. Your freezing brakes her defense mechanism and lets her be the whore that she truly is. However, she will test you several times before letting her guards off through kissing, touching, etc. You should be as indifferent as you can and let her do her thing. After several attempts, her defense mechanism will shut off and she will start to panic that you don't really have any desire for her. She will become more passionate in her attempts to reignite the fire in you. HOLD YOUR GROUND. When she finally pulls back and starts bitching pull her forcibly towards you and fuck the shit out of her. This has worked every single time for me.

Method 2: Ignore her objections and continue doing what you are doing. The viability of this method depends on your confidence level and perseverance. This takes longer than the first method because she is not cooperating like in the first method. Don't let her brain think for a second. Kiss, lick, slap, pinch so her juices keep flowing. Finally, if you do the right tricks, she will give up. I personally don't recommend this method because there is a chance that she will regret the next day and make your repeat bang harder. And there are some girls that it is impossible to break through their defense mechanism no matter what you do.

You need to use her lizard brain to disarm her. Before fucking her body you need to fuck her brain. In this context, the lack of desire for a naked female body is a stronger tool than your schlong when it comes to making pussy wet. Faking indifference is very hard but you can do it with practice.

Post: #29

(06-20-2017 10:22 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Start making some fucking pancakes.

This guy gets it.

Post: #30

(06-20-2017 07:33 AM)EmotionalGeek Wrote:  I just lain beside her (Mystery calls this freezer).

Put all that shit down. Mystery got laid 80% because he's 6'10, not ugly, and capable of entertaining brainless drunk California sluts with kitsch and a fake personality.

(06-20-2017 07:33 AM)EmotionalGeek Wrote:  Is there some good counter to her not wanting to take her panties off?

Rub her through them until she's so horny she needs the dick.

All of your post is too reactive and following her instructions. If she says some shit just joke it off and keep pushing, don't take things at face value FFS.

(06-21-2017 05:33 PM)speculator Wrote:  [generic internet dick swinging]
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This has worked every single time for me.

And how was that time?

Post: #31

(06-20-2017 12:10 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(06-20-2017 07:33 AM)EmotionalGeek Wrote:  Is there some good counter to her not wanting to take her panties off?

Yes. Take your undies off and put her hand on your tub-puppet and make her start working it. This works the most of the time.

Why? Because youre not working against her "vulnerabilities" but still breaking the last sexual intimacy barrier

OP

If you are laying in bed w a girl making out and down to your undies you dont need anymore attraction or comfort. You need [b]arousal[/b] Arousal like attraction is not a choice: it is a reaction.

Sex is acting on that arousal. Like any act there is a beginning, a middle, and an end. There is also a certain degree of "momentum".

If she's in bed with you then the attraction is there. If she wont let you pull off her panties she is breaking that momentum. Why?

Fear

"He'll think Im a slut"

"I didnt shave and it'll gross him out"

etc etc...could be a million things

But the easiest way to keep the momentum going in the direction is to do what I explained above.

She can stop you from pulling her panties off but she cant (and wont) stop you from pulling your shorts off...right?

This takes the onus off of her but keeps the momentum going in the right direction so the final "barrier" is broken. Once she's ok touching your pee pee she will soon be ok with you touching her hooha

Ive used this too many times to count for first bangs (discovered and tested in high school on virgins even)

If you want you can put her hand on your dick on top of your underwear first and let her rub it. Rubbing a hard dick is instinctively going to heighten her arousal.

You at the very least get a hand job (way better than blue balls) or blow job and likely get the bang if you dont blow your load too soon

Play on

Post: #32

(06-21-2017 06:58 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  "I didnt shave and it'll gross him out"

Team she did shave so it grossed me out.

Post: #33

(06-21-2017 06:35 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(06-20-2017 07:33 AM)EmotionalGeek Wrote:  I just lain beside her (Mystery calls this freezer).

Put all that shit down. Mystery got laid 80% because he's 6'10, not ugly, and capable of entertaining brainless drunk California sluts with kitsch and a fake personality.

(06-20-2017 07:33 AM)EmotionalGeek Wrote:  Is there some good counter to her not wanting to take her panties off?

Rub her through them until she's so horny she needs the dick.

All of your post is too reactive and following her instructions. If she says some shit just joke it off and keep pushing, don't take things at face value FFS.

(06-21-2017 05:33 PM)speculator Wrote:  [generic internet dick swinging]
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This has worked every single time for me.

And how was that time?

[generic internet dick measuring contest]

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We get it Phoenix you are so hot that even planes can't take off, let alone girls.

It worked well buddy. Thanks for asking.