Post: #1

Hello guys,

I want to talk to you about the external factors which affect your ability to day game in an "optimal" state.

I fly solo and noticed that some external factors really affect my day game mental state... so my question here is simple : what is your pre-game routine (like a bodybuilder has a pre-workout routine) ?

Some of the external factors that affect my performance negatively :

- Stress (mostly from work, exams...) and procrastination on something.
- Lack of sleep (less than 8 hours) and going to bed late
- Porn and fapping
- Lack of social interactions (even for one day or two)
- Lack of physical stimulation (working out/ or sex)
- Lack of momentum (approach too space out)
- Too much self development (it brings out insecurities)
- Facebook and reading about guys who are doing better than me.


External factors that affect my performance positively :

The opposite of everything above so : no stress, good sleep (8 hours), no fap and no porn (at least for a week), socialize (even cold approaching strangers for a random conversation), working out a lot (3 times a week at least), no Facebook

+

- Meditation
- Getting blown one or two times to be into an IDGAF mode
- Good circle of friends
- Motivational videos (i find them helpful)
- Taking supplements like siberian ginseng or maca
- Eating salmon or veggies
- Improving myself in a domain which has nothing to do with game


That's all i can think of... what's about you ?

Post: #2

Eating Salmon ? Could you explain please how does that affect your day game

Post: #3

I think you answered your own question in the thread.

All of our bodies and brains work on the same physiological principles as yours does.

Okay but I'll add...

Watching any kind of television, especially some bullshit feminist daytime talk show or anything that is designed to appeal to females.

Listening to pussy music like guys singing about how special their girl is or any pussy bullshit like that

Post: #4

(06-12-2017 03:50 AM)Nick98 Wrote:  Eating Salmon ? Could you explain please how does that affect your day game

Omega 3 help to reduce stress and day game cold approach can be a bit stressful when you stop doing them for a while.

Food really affects your mental state to a point that you don't image. check this book "The Ultramind Solution" by Mark Hyman.

Post: #5

(06-12-2017 03:58 AM)RichardTheFrog Wrote:  I think you answered your own question in the thread.

All of our bodies and brains work on the same physiological principles as yours does.

Okay but I'll add...

Watching any kind of television, especially some bullshit feminist daytime talk show or anything that is designed to appeal to females.

Listening to pussy music like guys singing about how special their girl is or any pussy bullshit like that

Yeah you're right !

I think watching Predator 3 times in a row would be better to get your blood pump

Post: #6

There are many factors that can make you feel more or less optimal to perform unsolicited approaches. The art is to minimize the number of factors and learn to approach with no momentum whatsoever. You just leave the house and are ready to open. (Similarly, both sexes engage in long rituals before going out - pre-drinking, telling jokes, laughing, listening to favourite music, etc.). This is all fine but it just takes a lots of time.

I'd say good night's sleep prior action would be the key. Other factors would be your general long-term lifestyle, either some routine stuff (no fap, gym, eating well, etc.) or specific, personal ones.

But learning to have as few rituals and routines is very helpful for it makes so much easier to open whenever, wherever, whomever, aka 'opportunistic day game'.

Once you train yourself to run stateless game, you'll have fewer and fewer excuses to open in any given situation.

Post: #7

When I make money. Especially hustling.

Even when I sold an old piece of furniture through craigslist for U$20. I feel great.

Don´t know why but this puts me in the mood.

Post: #8

It's all about energy. I take some time to focus, eat well, and then work it into another activity, such as the gym. It lets you vent the negative vibes you accumulate from rejections.

Daygame is funny. It demands a load of energy, but when doing well, you actually generate momentum. So it's not a complete drain on your resources.

If I'm tired I might back out. The law of state transfer is real. But I've got success even when feeling like shit, so take those opportunities, and squeeze out that last rep.

When you daygame, you gotta work yourself up to 100%. There is a qualitative difference from my everyday state, to suddenly generating playful and funny vibes, with no alchohol, friends or external stimulus. It can be brutal.

Post: #9

The one thing that has helped me solo day game more than anything at this point is simple: discipline.

I don't care about "state". I either do the approach or not. Regardless of how unkempt or disheveled a state I am in internally or externally.

Make no mistake, as a hardened introvert it took a lot of experimentation and all-out balls-to-the-wall approaching sessions to get to this point.

But when you get to this point, you simply do the approach or not. The rest is just self-talk and time spent not moving forward in my life when I could have just done the approach and moved on.

Post: #10

Sleep in ( no hot chicks do anything prior to 9 am)

I have no idea of the age range of girl your interested in..it matters for day game

How big is your city? is it a major city or a town

Major city ...I use to time my day (8 am) ..for the elevator rides...all them hot airline stewardess's and business girls...I'd linger in the lobby checking my mail...doing laundry ... checking my towel for the pool...then off to a light breakfast in the most crowded places I could find with the hottest waitresses...workout....lunch....(it's a major city...so lots to do)..crucial part of day is when the 9 to 5'ers get off from work ...no chicks cook..they go for bistro's or restaurant patio's and wine..wine..wine..and more wine...get a good suit on ...head on out (about 6 pm) when the corporate chicks are liquored up and married guys had to leave....most don;t get back to the high rises till 9 pm...and start the cycle all over again....most working chicks are burnt out from week day work/boozing and smartphone shit...so weekends are a mix bag...younger college chicks go to nightclubs..older crowd does whatever at night everything's available right up to speed dating

Town..head down for coffee...walk to the gym...go to the library...just walk a lot. be seen as much as you can (with a tan in a muscle shirt)..have lunch...shop a bit...for clothes or a goldfish or vitamins?.....get into a predictable routine so chicks can figure where you'll be ...or if she doesn't purposely bump into you.... connect at a pub with you sometime

Post: #11

I believe there was an article a few years ago on Heartiste about approaching when you're hung over.

Sounds stupid at first but when you really think about it, it's not a bad idea. Chances are you feel like shit, have no patience, and generally don't want to be anywhere but bed.

Perfect recipe for not giving a fuck and being outcome independent.

Post: #12

Recently posted on ROK is an article by Troy Francis about utilizing your routine level of end-of-day fatigue toward conjuring a relaxed and carefree attitude about the whole thing. I know the method stated is geared toward night game, but it dawned on me, a while back actually, that this state can work in the day as well. I'd do these monster walks back and forth through the length of the mall, slowly, and with increasing hunger (more types than one), and it finally occurred to me how this resulting subdued presence of mind is a benefit for this type of hunt.

Post: #13

(06-12-2017 03:24 AM)Edmaster Wrote:  Hello guys,

I want to talk to you about the external factors which affect your ability to day game in an "optimal" state.

I fly solo and noticed that some external factors really affect my day game mental state... so my question here is simple : what is your pre-game routine (like a bodybuilder has a pre-workout routine) ?

Some of the external factors that affect my performance negatively :

- Stress (mostly from work, exams...) and procrastination on something.
- Lack of sleep (less than 8 hours) and going to bed late
- Porn and fapping
- Lack of social interactions (even for one day or two)
- Lack of physical stimulation (working out/ or sex)
- Lack of momentum (approach too space out)
- Too much self development (it brings out insecurities)
- Facebook and reading about guys who are doing better than me.


External factors that affect my performance positively :

The opposite of everything above so : no stress, good sleep (8 hours), no fap and no porn (at least for a week), socialize (even cold approaching strangers for a random conversation), working out a lot (3 times a week at least), no Facebook

+

- Meditation
- Getting blown one or two times to be into an IDGAF mode
- Good circle of friends
- Motivational videos (i find them helpful)
- Taking supplements like siberian ginseng or maca
- Eating salmon or veggies
- Improving myself in a domain which has nothing to do with game


That's all i can think of... what's about you ?

Agree with mostly everything you said. As somebody else mentioned, you did answer your own question but I would add drinking or having coconut juice and trail mix with you and knowing where the bathrooms are during your daygame adventure. Those little tweaks helped me because if you daygame like I daygame, I'm running around, being able to go 0-100 real quick when you see a moment of opportunity with maybe the one girl that's moved your nut muscle in an hour and if you're dehydrated, hungry or worst, have to take a piss, can obviously fuck up your mood.

Additionally, I would also add (and this is easier said that done, I'm still working on this) to try and choose a career/set up your life so that you're always in "state". Meaning are you doing a job that sucks ass and drains your life energy? It might not just be for you man. Also, maybe find a job where you do interact with ppl regularly. A few years back, I actually volunteered for this homeless charity where I stood on the street asking random ppl for money. After 5 hours of doing that shit, I was FEARLESS and could speak to ANYONE vs being in front of a computer for an hour or two, working on Excel files and I'm all socially retarded.

Is there a person who's always negative where you have to give them energy? Let em go or reduce your interactions with them.

Set up your life for flow.

Peace out soldiers

Post: #14

Talk to people you aren't gaming. That elderly couple at the grocery store, the cute chick at work you aren't gaming because you don't want to shit where you eat, your neighbor, your barber, whatever. Just get in a conversational mood. Besides, who knows what crazy story you might hear that you can then incorporate in your openers.

Post: #15

Post: #16

(06-14-2017 08:44 PM)Palo_alto Wrote:  When I make money. Especially hustling.

Even when I sold an old piece of furniture through craigslist for U$20. I feel great.

Don´t know why but this puts me in the mood.

Makes a huge difference. When you are making money, set some aside in a slush fund you never touch. That way when you run into a dry spell and go for a while not making much, you'll still feel pretty decent about yourself. They call it attitude money - it works.

Post: #17

There is no optimal state. Approaching a girl during the day is never easy.

You're always going to feel anxious or nervous. This much you can control, but only to an extent. Experience helps. But so what? You'll find girls that like you right off the bat with day game and they'll be nervous too. Go direct and you'll sometimes see girls stuttering and blushing heavily. It's only human to feel a range of emotions, so accept that you'll never have an optimal state.

What's "optimal" is making the most of your opportunities. You're going to hesitate sometimes, and miss the best chances. Kick yourself and get back out there and seize it next time.

Post: #18

Get a wingman to get in a social state and help you to get over rejections.

If you can't speak to few strangers or call a friend.

Start with low difficulty approaches and build up. Indirect - Indirect/Direct - Direct. Stationary - moving. One girl - 2 - 3 etc.

Walk around fast, moving around makes you more active and in better mood.

Work on your inner game. You are giving not taking, approaching is normal and not creepy, girls want to be approached.

Good luck.

Post: #19

As Vinny notes, the best way is to gradually build up to it. Start with indirect approaches -- even on non-targets such as men, old people, service workers -- and gradually work up to direct approaches.

One game that I play when I'm solo to get warmed up and not stay stuck in my head is set a rule that I have to approach someone every 2-3 minutes. Once the time is up, I stop walking and just open the closest available person. It could be asking sometime directions, asking a street vendor the price of something, or ideally an actual approach.

This helps me avoid the perfection trap, where you keep waiting for the perfect girl or perfect moment/scenario and so end up missing a lot of approaches you could have made.

Post: #20

Zero Fucks Given. Simple. You don't give a fuck about the outcome, what the girl will think, global warming or if you'll have fish & chips for dinner.

Easier said, than done? True.

To build up quickly to ZFG the best thing is to start opening randomly, girls solo, in two, or three about anything. E.g., there was a a 2-set yesterday, mediocre girls but just as they were walking down towards the park I stopped them and asked if they'd like to have fish & chips. They hooked, and we chatted. The more bullshit, the better. It's incredible that it works to talk about nothing with girls but what it really shows is a ZFG attitude.

One downside is you can't really fake it. You really have to be in a ZFG mode.

Post: #21

The biggest negatives in my opinion (for most anything productive):
Watching TV
Snacking

The biggest positive, not gonna lie, and I don't condone it, but pop an stimulant. Sudafed will do it to me, but if you pop an Adderall you gonna be good to go.

Post: #22

I would say get all of your chores done such as laundry, shopping, answering emails so that they are not nagging you in the back of your mind.

Also, if you are going to a cafe, pick something to write or a movie to watch so that you are not just sitting there bored to death.

Post: #23

All is a buffer. If you feel you need to put yourself in state it's like you're indirectly qualifying yourself to the girl that you're not good enough the way you are. Optimally, you should be able to approach anytime, anywhere. There'll be many times a hot girl around when you're not "ready". State does help, makes things easier but ultimately you shouldn't rely on it - once you leave the door, just be ready to jump to action when you see something stimulating your crotch.

Post: #24

For me "earning it" does the trick. If I made a good effort today with my obligations (work, gym, study - whatever it is that you do), I feel I've earned some fun time outside and I game with ease, don't take rejections seriously etc - as it should be.

I think for many of the likes of us game becomes a 'second job', as we are so obsessed about it. In which case it's next to impossible to get into the optimal mood for it.

The operative word is "game". If doesn't feel like a game but as a do or die chore, then you're fucked.

Post: #25

OP's list is good. In addition, I want to be in a good, funny mood yet very relaxed and have energy. Krauser called this being a happy dog with its tongue hanging out. The dog is happy already and isn't dependent on the person's reaction. Since daygame amplifies how your inner vibe projects externally, it's easy to slip into everyone else's mindset.

As a contrarian, I want know my objectives, what kind of quality I will target and how to manage any negative thoughts. The latter is key, because it's easy to get swayed by the environment. I have imperfections like everyone else and am OK with it.

When I have too many work items or distractions in my mind, I over-analyze the most basic things I already know, like talking.

Before going out, I skim my open / stack notes to remind myself not to wander and stay focused. There have been many times when I could've opened a pretty girl but totally froze and forgot what to do. Just like that, the savory, pink window of opportunity vanished before my eyes. This was due to my lack of preparation and not controlling my mindset. Every lay started with saying the right thing to the right girl. The law of numbers will take care of the conversion rates.

I don't play video games, take drugs or drink much. I live a healthy lifestyle. I'm normally very extroverted, so I like talking in general when I'm in the right mood.

When a (yes / maybe) girl feels your happiness, she craves for a guy to share that with her.