Post: #101

Thank you, gents, for putting together that graph and posting a thread about not getting mad at girls for being girls (like getting mad at dogs for barking). I went out Sunday solo not dressed up at all in shorts and a polo and approached a girl in a two guy one girl set just for the kicks of it. Saw my boner pop upon laying eyes on a girl who made that happen and just approached without any gameplan. Go and approach before thinking about it and there I was before this blonde and the guy she was standing near dispersed immediately after I smirked at him. She asked me if I was a Trump supporter within 2 minutes and immediately left to go back to her two guy manforce protector unit after I said I supported and voted for him 100 percent. Time wasted=0. Ever since Sunday, I have laughed about it and have been getting compliments from random people on the street I have never met. I don't understand why they keep throwing compliments at me because DC is not a very friendly place. What am I doing differently now after reading a fucking graph on RVF and thinking of women as dogs who bark (e.g., flake naturally or act like girls)?

Post: #102

(06-20-2017 01:38 PM)BossOfBosses Wrote:  Let me make perfectly clear. Game (especially old-school Mystery stuff) teaches that thirsty, validating behavior is low-value. Hitting/approaching every random woman who does not show IOI's is low-value. There were various gambits and strategies to mitigate this in the pick-up process such as false time constraints and dis-qualifiers. This is IMO the correct view.

The way game is set up now is dudes are telling people to approach constantly and just run the numbers. This low-value approach will get most guys nowhere. Ghosting/flakes rates are sky high today because guys are not running proper game. It could be better. Much better.

Women are selecting for increasingly external factors (status/fame, money etc) because it's painfully obvious the game of men in the west has gone down considerably.

That's a good point, if there's an IOI then it's fair game, otherwise, most guys are gonna come across like a stand-in for the 3 stooges.

Post: #103

Another thing to consider in the west...the "restart" texts from other guys, especially on weekends after a long night of drinking in a bar that would be mistaken for a gay bar simply off ratio (most American bars).

Post: #104

This thread is scattered with semi-autistic statements of newbies with zero humility. Even worse those newbies on the Game-denial scale also have not put in the least amount of work looking at the good material laid out by men out there.

Only the extremely good-looking, famous and rich get laid? Then who is fucking the tens of millions of young girls? Who is becoming boyfriends with them - and fucking them?

All are 8+ good-looking tall men? So I guess 1% of men are fucking 50% of young girls?

Of course Game is getting tougher in the West. Of course some online platforms have become close to useless in certain cities. We know that. And going to South America, New York, Vegas or EE is not because you cannot get laid as a man with Game. It just means you can get laid easier and with hotter and younger girls. In fact the West is a good training ground. If you make it there, you make it anywhere.

But enough with this - discussing things with semi-autists who have read a few PUA lingo crap and now are lambasting everyone here with their statements - that is useless.

Post: #105

I don't think anyone here is discussing the efficacy of whether or not David DeAngelo's cocky funny routine is still worth a shot. Most "game" as we know it is a simplified version of that. Heartiste's "jerkboy charisma" is exactly that. I've been in the game for awhile btw, if that matters.

Another thing to consider, how many men aren't naturally made for game, but are using feigned game? Probably a lot. Average guy is a stooge, but it's still an additional male to compete with.

The reality is, America has an impressive male surplus. I've known guys who were fitness models & even they've admitted it's harder now.

Post: #106

Wrong. You Never Know.

Obviously, you can't gauge any interests if they are minding their own businesses (studying, shopping, walking etc)

I had incidents when I could make eye contacts few times but she looked either uninterested or even cold. But when I approach them, they lighted up like a christmas tree.

When you see a girl you really like, how do you act? most people just freeze and don't know what to do. I've done this few times because I wasn't used to girls hitting on me first.

So bottom line, she could look cold to you but you never know so you will have to find out. That is Game.

(06-21-2017 05:24 AM)underboss Wrote:  

(06-20-2017 01:38 PM)BossOfBosses Wrote:  Let me make perfectly clear. Game (especially old-school Mystery stuff) teaches that thirsty, validating behavior is low-value. Hitting/approaching every random woman who does not show IOI's is low-value. There were various gambits and strategies to mitigate this in the pick-up process such as false time constraints and dis-qualifiers. This is IMO the correct view.

The way game is set up now is dudes are telling people to approach constantly and just run the numbers. This low-value approach will get most guys nowhere. Ghosting/flakes rates are sky high today because guys are not running proper game. It could be better. Much better.

Women are selecting for increasingly external factors (status/fame, money etc) because it's painfully obvious the game of men in the west has gone down considerably.

That's a good point, if there's an IOI then it's fair game, otherwise, most guys are gonna come across like a stand-in for the 3 stooges.

Post: #107

Like any good sports team it's good to go over the fundamentals or in other words the basics

Guys didn't need much (any) talent between 18-24 because this is the same age group as the women who are exploring themselves

It's when a guy gets older into his late 20's he finds the game changes and it isn't easy anymore (to get laid).

Guys that (thought) they were Alpha's through their "teens" and early 20's didn't take the transition into being older and game becoming scarce/ harder (chicks grew up mentally). very well

I had a Ahpha friend back then that when he was around all I would get was the left over chicks (which was fine with me, it made me try harder and appreciate in the long run).......when the age transition happened he was grabbing chicks and telling them to look into his eyes (he had green eyes chicks were attracted too) he got weirder, frustrated and stopped going out.....the 9 and 10's he fukked regularly had stopped, and he wasn't going to fuck trash... later he went into cocaine.

And yes any girl that was putting herself out there and worth fucking got fucked by a small group of guys who were very busy.
Alpha's can't do ALL the banging ....they just banged a lot of the creme of the crop (18 yo 24) in any given city.

Chicks get pickier as they age this is natural (deal with it) the fact guys figure out easier internet approaches won't matter. Except that there will be fallout ...chicks get jaded faster...they get pickier faster... superficial...bitchier....e.t.c (not that the Beta's care they created the monster)

Current dating/getting laid is a technological "arms race" with Bill Gates as the general. At some point the Beta's will figure out a female hypnotizing APP maybe ....or maybe not.....in the meantime work on the basic ..try not to get frustrated and like I said appreciate every success.

PROOF?....last week I walked downtown (walked amazing right..huh?) and bought a sleeveless cut-off (for the pipes) tried it on and left it on. I specifically picked the one that had "COCAINE and CAVIAR" on the front (Target Marketing myself...what!!). While walking back to my place I noticed this hot long legged mix in shorty shorts about 20 looking at me (and me at her) as I passed she said...I LIKE YOUR TOP. ..I said THANKS it was expensive (35 bucks so I was honest...lol) The 20 year old guy beside her looks up from his smartphone shot me a look and went back to his phone
...I'm in my fifties. and no she wasn't being nice to 6 foot no grey well built tanned grampa