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RE: Immigration
(08-30-2011 06:30 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  
(08-29-2011 09:35 PM)Samseau Wrote:  So instead we vote to maintain the status quo?

How many votes Libertarian party brought to the people?

Huh I don't understand what you're saying.

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(08-28-2011 09:44 PM)Samseau Wrote:  The current immigration system sucks. Instead of mass illegals being ignored, there should be a wide-scale work-visa program for immigrants to come and be regulated with.

Work-visas would not grant anything close to citizenship status, nor count toward the five year minimum of obtaining citizenship via a green card. Work-visas would need to be renewed yearly. Any criminal acts committed with a work-visa means automatic deportation.

This system would allow people to come here to make money without flooding the system with third-world peoples becoming voters through things like amnesty or having children on US soil.

What about immigrants like Sergey Brin who want to start a U.S.-based business? They're unlikely to do that unless they can be assured that they'll get to stay in the U.S. A one-year visa won't cut it for them. Without immigrant entrepreneurs, we lose one of the main benefits of immigration, which is that the kinds of people willing leave everything behind and come to this country are also often the kinds of people with the gumption to start businesses. In the case of tech companies, the new businesses disrupt existing industries and create new industries, helping the U.S. avoid stagnation and keep its competitive edge.
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RE: Immigration
(02-11-2017 10:43 AM)Jean Valjean Wrote:  
(08-28-2011 09:44 PM)Samseau Wrote:  The current immigration system sucks. Instead of mass illegals being ignored, there should be a wide-scale work-visa program for immigrants to come and be regulated with.

Work-visas would not grant anything close to citizenship status, nor count toward the five year minimum of obtaining citizenship via a green card. Work-visas would need to be renewed yearly. Any criminal acts committed with a work-visa means automatic deportation.

This system would allow people to come here to make money without flooding the system with third-world peoples becoming voters through things like amnesty or having children on US soil.

What about immigrants like Sergey Brin who want to start a U.S.-based business? They're unlikely to do that unless they can be assured that they'll get to stay in the U.S. A one-year visa won't cut it for them. Without immigrant entrepreneurs, we lose one of the main benefits of immigration, which is that the kinds of people willing leave everything behind and come to this country are also often the kinds of people with the gumption to start businesses.

What's stopping them from starting a business in their own country? Most of the time nothing. The 3rd world needs their own geniuses to pull them out of their poverty.

Secondly, entrepreneurs are rare. For every Brin and Musk you have hundreds of gimmiegrants who eat up any wealth created by immigrant entrepreneurs.
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