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RE: Berkeley and anti-Trump protest happenings (April 15, 2017)
(04-18-2017 04:03 PM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  It's amazing how brazen the fraud of the Louise Rosealma GoFundMe has been.

They've gone from saying she needs money for "hospital bills" and "a new identity" to:

Quote:Presently waiting for word back from support at https://www.tiaacharitable.org/how-a-don...DQod82ENDw to see if funds (five comrades *one of whom being Louise* serving as the donor/advisory board of the fund) will be receivable toward the establishment of a 501c3 organization for purposes somewhere in the range between a [email protected] Action Group and an Antifa organization. We're taking the fight to its economic roots!

This is nonsense and makes it even more important that Antifa be classified as a terrorist organization. No tax-exempt status.

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RE: Berkeley and anti-Trump protest happenings (April 15, 2017)
(04-18-2017 02:57 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:34 PM)kbell Wrote:  Antifa is probably going to use knifes in next confrontation.

This will really necessitate the Trump supporters maintaining formation when fighting. From the videos I saw, most of the beatings taken by Trump supporters occurred when the antifas managed to isolate them and then dogpiled. Getting kicked and stomped by a 90 lb vegan is one thing, but if they start stabbing people then allowing yourself to get surrounded will be potentially lethal.

Other thing to remember is that back in the good old days of medieval total war, (I'm referring to both the computer game and history in this case), most of the casualties for the loser were incurred during a rout.

I'd enjoy it if the next right-vs-left US street riot video looks like this, with the addition of whacking sticks to go with the shields:


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The Moldylocks incident inspired me to put together a short educational film about the difference between violence in cinema, versus real life. Enjoy!




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(04-18-2017 05:38 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:57 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  
(04-18-2017 02:34 PM)kbell Wrote:  Antifa is probably going to use knifes in next confrontation.

This will really necessitate the Trump supporters maintaining formation when fighting. From the videos I saw, most of the beatings taken by Trump supporters occurred when the antifas managed to isolate them and then dogpiled. Getting kicked and stomped by a 90 lb vegan is one thing, but if they start stabbing people then allowing yourself to get surrounded will be potentially lethal.

Other thing to remember is that back in the good old days of medieval total war, (I'm referring to both the computer game and history in this case), most of the casualties for the loser were incurred during a rout.

I'd enjoy it if the next right-vs-left US street riot video looks like this, with the addition of whacking sticks to go with the shields:



Is that training or is it real?
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(04-18-2017 05:38 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  I'd enjoy it if the next right-vs-left US street riot video looks like this, with the addition of whacking sticks to go with the shields:



Can I ask you what first hand experience in your life has led you to believe the people with the whacking sticks are going to be on your side?
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(04-18-2017 06:08 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Is that training or is it real?

Training

(04-18-2017 06:09 PM)IvanDrago Wrote:  Can I ask you what first hand experience in your life has led you to believe the people with the whacking sticks are going to be on your side?

Don't know what you mean. With no other information, 50-50 odds I guess? Or probably higher because whacking sticks begets whacking sticks.
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It's quite alarming just how rapidly the level of weaponry and protective gear is increasing.

February 1st - Milo speech scheduled
Rocks thrown, fireworks, pepper spray, overturned cars and smashed windows.

March 4th - March 4 Trump
Based Stickman arrives decked out in a baseball helmet, gas mask, ski goggles, shield, leg protectors and anti-commie stick.

April 15th - Free speech event
Glass bottles, smoke bombs, shields, motorcycle suits, M80s, sticks and knives.

May ???
Batons, baseball bats, slingshots, chains, knuckle dusters, leather armour, riot shields, anti-stab vests.

June ???
Swords, spears, crossbows, full plate armour, jousting sticks, horses and attack dogs.

July ???
Catapults, battering ram, ballistas, siege towers and infantry in phalanx formation.

From there on what happens next is anyone's guess Confused

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(04-18-2017 06:57 PM)Valentine Wrote:  It's quite alarming just how rapidly the level of weaponry and protective gear is increasing.

February 1st - Milo speech scheduled
Rocks thrown, fireworks, pepper spray, overturned cars and smashed windows.

March 4th - March 4 Trump
Based Stickman arrives decked out in a baseball helmet, gas mask, ski goggles, shield, leg protectors and anti-commie stick.

April 15th - Free speech event
Glass bottles, smoke bombs, shields, motorcycle suits, M80s, sticks and knives.

May ???
Batons, baseball bats, slingshots, chains, knuckle dusters, leather armour, riot shields, anti-stab vests.

June ???
Swords, spears, crossbows, full plate armour, jousting sticks, horses and attack dogs.

July ???
Catapults, battering ram, ballistas, siege towers and infantry in phalanx formation.

From there on what happens next is anyone's guess Confused
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Fresh from /pol/, hope it is not dupe or fake.

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Fucking manlets ^


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Shields, armour and blunt weapons served humanity well for thouands of years. Only difference now is better materials, long stabby weapons and guns. Laugh
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(04-19-2017 02:49 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Fucking manlets ^


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Shields, armour and blunt weapons served humanity well for thouands of years. Only difference now is better materials, long stabby weapons and guns. Laugh



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Polyamory - the refuge of the low Beta and Omega male. She wants to be banged out by a masculine man while her cuck boyfriend is watching. Would not surprise me if real. It is the in thing to do in those circles as women are even dictating the rules. Hollywood is also pushing this crap of men being faithful, while girls can go wild and enjoy. I saw an episode this Billions bullshit and one of the Hedge Fund employees who makes millions while being in his 30s is dating their hot, but already end 20s assistant. Then that Hedge Fund manager says that he cannot have a lapdance at the strip club, because he is faithful, while she - his hot girlfriend - is not. That is how the propaganda works - little snippets here and there to make it palatable. Antifa is utterly feminized, so they jump on every stupid bandwagon of gender-polyamory crap which ultimately only serves the feminine.

But this seems to be real:

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High-def picture of bitch armed with a large bottle - she was throwing those around. Also even if she hits someone on the head, then this can cause serious damage - even cost someone an eye.
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Jesus christ, broken fucking people.

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Moldylocks has multiple names and/or aliases: Emily Rose Nauert, Emily Marshall, Louise Rosealma, and Venus Rosales. Dodgy

Looks like this is one of her "polyamorous" boyfriends. He was not in a good mood to get his ass kicked by Trump Supporters. lol
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Meanwhile, there will be another protest slash riot coming up in Berkeley on April 27 according to 4Chan /pol/:
Quote:Reminder that the third battle of Berkeley will be next week. Thursday, April 27, Ann Coulter will be coming to give a speech.

http://www.inquisitr.com/opinion/4150001...-to-ensue/

Antifa are already planning to chimp out


UC-Berkeley is pulling out all the stops in an attempt to prevent students from hearing Ann Coulter's viewpoint.
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The amazing thing about these sorts of people is that they honestly aren't aware of how ridiculous they look to normal people. All that faggy hipster alternative vegan polyamorous crap is really serious business for them. Drag queens are more self-aware than these people.
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(04-19-2017 03:29 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  Moldylocks has multiple names and/or aliases - Emily Rose Nauert, Emily Marshall, Louise Rosealma, and Venus Rosales. Dodgy

Looks like this is one of her "polyamorous" boyfriends...not in a good mood to get his ass kicked. lol
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That is the same guy as from the online dating ad - he just wears a cap. You can even see the large earrings which are identical including the beard. Antifa should wear helmets, but that is not their standard anarchist style.
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Meanwhile, Antifas discussing strategies on how to better armed themselves next time...
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And we all remember this lovely female UC-Berkeley Police Chief.

Update: Due to security concerns, Anne Coulter's speech at UC-Berkeley has been cancelled.

Update #2: According to Anne Coulter, she is *still* going to give a speech.
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Tim Pool has a video up criticizing the violence on both sides at the free speech event at Berkeley:





I have really appreciated his coverage of this event, although I still don't get how people fall again and again for the reductionist "on both sides" argument.

Trump supporters and people on the right have been getting consistently attacked ever since the run-up to the election.

That is the context that no one seems to be taking into account.

Also, that dude who popped the girl is an ex-Marine. He barely tapped her when she came at him. To consider that equivalent to the violence of the Antifa is, in my opinion, the best way to embolden violence from the left, no matter how good it feels to say.

I left this comment over at his video:

Quote:Hey Tim,

Before I get to the main point of my comment, I want to thank you for your coverage of the event in Berkeley. I looked into this event from as many sources as I could find, and yours was the most complete and even handed of the bunch, and you deserve a lot of credit for that.

Without your coverage, I wouldn't have known that the rally had a lot of people attending other than alt-righters. I wouldn't have had the interview with the dreadlocks girl to help decide what was going on with her, I wouldn't have gotten a good overall feel for what it was like being in the middle of a mob with M-80's flying around, and I wouldn't have known that the other side was sometimes initiating violence, not just the Antifas.

All important stuff, and your way of doing things is so valuable for this reason.

So, a bit of push back to this video. I think you are evading your responsibility as an adult, to a certain extent, by calling out the violence "on all sides." Or even coming out against violence in general. It is just too over-simplified a stance, and comes close to virtue signalling, which I don't think is appropriate for a journalist of your abilities.

Violence will always be there in the background, and it is the threat of violence that maintains a lot of the peace in this world, and unfortunately, there will be times when it is not just a necessary option, but a justified one.

If it were up to me, there would be no violence, and yet if I tried to apply this standard to the world today, I would just get beat up and accomplish nothing. It is a much more adult road to take to ask when violence is appropriate, and how much, and how not to unconsciously be antagonizing people into it.

For this, you cannot live in the world of ideals and utopian hopes, you have to check in with people who have an intimate experience with it, people who are violence professionals, whether it be law enforcement, self defense experts, or people who have grown up on the streets.

i know you are busy, but if you have the time, I would suggest that you investigate the work of people like Marc MacYoung, (http://nononsenseselfdefense.com/) and Rory Miller (http://chirontraining.blogspot.com/), both violence professionals who are also very intellectual and sensitive men, and you may be surprised at what you find. Probably 90% of what they write has to do with how your carry yourself physically and verbally, as well as how to understand the mindset between violence in all its forms.

For example, I cannot see how you fail to make the distinction between self defense and plain old violence. That girl who the guy punched came expressly to cause mayhem, and she actively engaged the guy who punched her. Now, doubtless, it is ingrained in all men not to hit women, but unfortunately today, we have women behaving in a violent and reckless manner and seeking to cause bodily harm to anyone they like, including men.

What I see when I look at the video of that guy hitting her cannot be boiled down to, hitting a woman is wrong, he hit a woman, he is wrong. She was coming after him. When he hit her, he barely tagged her on the forehead. He didn't break her jaw or her nose. He just kind of woke her up and made her reconsider her options. Also, he didn't do what the Antifa did, keep hitting her or kicking her on the ground or throw a rock at her.

The minute she was down, he was done. If anything, this seems to me like about a legitimate use of violence as you can imagine. It probably kept her from getting hurt worse in a fight with anyone else. What he did is much closer to the concept of the educational beatdown, a fascinating concept if you ever have to time to look into it (http://chirontraining.blogspot.com/2013/...own.html), and far more productive a topic to be studying than just saying, violence is wrong, why can't everyone else understand that?

I agree with the emotions behind your video. I don't want to see any violence, and particularly not towards women, but today women are much more violent than they have been in the past, are willing to use weapons, and willing to lie about it afterwards on TV interviews. I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that treating them like we have treated women since time immemorial is a good way to get yourself killed.

The guy who hit that woman acted with a lot more restraint than most people would have done in a similar situation, he only did enough to stop the threat to himself, without causing her any serious injury, and I do not think it appropriate to boil this down to condemning the violence on both sides. What was he supposed to do, let her hit him in the head with a bottle?

The whole concept of violence has to be studied in the new reality we find ourselves in, and the simple statements and platitudes of the past will get us nowhere. It is a subject worth studying, and I hope you will join in that effort.

With respect and thanks for the work you do.

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RE: Berkeley and anti-Trump protest happenings (April 15, 2017)
Tim Pool did an interview with Dave Rubin where Dave asked him "if antifa hadn't shown up with bricks and explosives, would there have been violence" and he said "absolutely not". He does seem to understand that antifa is in the wrong. However I think he suffers from paralysis of the moderate and feels the need to always qualify his statements to sound centrist.

In the same Rubin interview, he talked again for a moment about how there were instigators on the Rally side. The example he gave was one of the IE guys jumping the barricade and punching some Antifa dude. But he immediately went on to say that he understood why someone would feel they need to punch this crowd of people who showed up throwing bricks and explosives.

He knows the truth, but is just learning to admit it to himself that the modern left is cancer.
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The /pol 4chan group is far more tech-savvy and intelligent than the Antifa collective.

The Soros support does not go so far as to supply them with IT personnel.

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They are identifying Antifa scum one by one.
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Has anyone identified the girl who wanted to beat up Lauren Southern?

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Based on the transformation of this previously (one assumes) normal girl, as well as the before and after college photos on another thread, I hereby propose that feminists and other similar scum are from now on referred to as cenobites.

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I need to figure out how to know when these things are happening in my city. I need to get stuck in, maybe help myself more to show up these liberal fascist snowflakes.
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