Post: #1

I'm currently in a fuck-buddy relationship with a highly rational woman. She's a career woman, very independent, makes her own money, doesn't want a relationship nor does she have the time for them. By all accounts, she has a very red pill view on relationships. She prefers casual hook ups until she finds the right "prospect" (her words) to eventually settle down with. This is all well and good, and we have fun, but I don't know...Something is deeply off-putting about her and women like this

I always feel like it's a trap and they're going to switch it up on me at any moment...

Or maybe I just prefer highly emotional & chaotic women. Who knows.

Post: #2

(03-09-2017 10:23 PM)killjoy Wrote:  I'm currently in a fuck-buddy relationship with a highly rational woman. She's a career woman, very independent, makes her own money, doesn't want a relationship nor does she have the time for them. By all accounts, she has a very red pill view on relationships. She prefers casual hook ups until she finds the right "prospect" (her words) to eventually settle down with. This is all well and good, and we have fun, but I don't know...Something is deeply off-putting about her and women like this

I always feel like it's a trap and they're going to switch it up on me at any moment...

Or maybe I just prefer highly emotional & chaotic women. Who knows.

What's her age? She's not very rational if she's close the Wall and acting this way.

Post: #3

(03-09-2017 10:47 PM)BootNootly Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 10:23 PM)killjoy Wrote:  I'm currently in a fuck-buddy relationship with a highly rational woman. She's a career woman, very independent, makes her own money, doesn't want a relationship nor does she have the time for them. By all accounts, she has a very red pill view on relationships. She prefers casual hook ups until she finds the right "prospect" (her words) to eventually settle down with. This is all well and good, and we have fun, but I don't know...Something is deeply off-putting about her and women like this

I always feel like it's a trap and they're going to switch it up on me at any moment...

Or maybe I just prefer highly emotional & chaotic women. Who knows.

What's her age? She's not very rational if she's close the Wall and acting this way.

31.

Still very attractive and takes very good care of herself. Even though she's over 30 I wouldn't say she's hit the wall yet.

Post: #4

(03-09-2017 10:55 PM)killjoy Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 10:47 PM)BootNootly Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 10:23 PM)killjoy Wrote:  I'm currently in a fuck-buddy relationship with a highly rational woman. She's a career woman, very independent, makes her own money, doesn't want a relationship nor does she have the time for them. By all accounts, she has a very red pill view on relationships. She prefers casual hook ups until she finds the right "prospect" (her words) to eventually settle down with. This is all well and good, and we have fun, but I don't know...Something is deeply off-putting about her and women like this

I always feel like it's a trap and they're going to switch it up on me at any moment...

Or maybe I just prefer highly emotional & chaotic women. Who knows.

What's her age? She's not very rational if she's close the Wall and acting this way.

31.

Still very attractive and takes very good care of herself. Even though she's over 30 I wouldn't say she's hit the wall yet.

Most women of this social class expect there to be a "respectable" 2 years minimum between "I met this guy" and "I'm pregnant." Add 9 months of gestation and even if she LTR'd up right now her first kid would be at 34. So she has less time than she thinks to change her attitude, regardless of her age-defying looks.

As for you, Neil Strauss would call you a "love avoidant." I.e. you have found that when you open yourself up to girls, they get really clingy and demanding of lots of emotional support, so you subconsciously attract women who are LTR unsuitable.

Post: #5

She sounds like a bitter jaded female from getting burned through her 20's with bad reltionships/being used as a fuck toy. Guarantee her cold logical exterior is just a front. She is warm and mushy inside, just guards it.

Post: #6

(03-09-2017 10:23 PM)killjoy Wrote:  I'm currently in a fuck-buddy relationship with a highly rational woman. She's a career woman, very independent, makes her own money, doesn't want a relationship nor does she have the time for them. By all accounts, she has a very red pill view on relationships. She prefers casual hook ups until she finds the right "prospect" (her words) to eventually settle down with. This is all well and good, and we have fun, but I don't know...Something is deeply off-putting about her and women like this

I always feel like it's a trap and they're going to switch it up on me at any moment...

Or maybe I just prefer highly emotional & chaotic women. Who knows.

You've got to be kidding. This is exactly the sort of woman that I seek out.

No bullshit. Get together 3-4 times a month, fuck her very hard. Roll out. Why would anyone prefer a 10 ton sack of drama?

Post: #7

She wants to ride carousel into her 30's only to attempt and find the right man?



I pray for the bastard that locks her down.

Post: #8

You have to understand sexual tension and what's good for fucking and what's good for relationships, because they are very different.

You have a woman good for a relationship and possible marriage. But after a few years you'll be jerking off to the babysitter or the crazy teenage slut next door. It's just the facts of life. It's the sexual tension of a masculine man always chasing something feminine, unlogical, in motion, and uncontrollable.

In all honesty, the perfect woman is only the perfect woman for what you're seeking at the time. It's up to you to figure out what that is -- mariage, family, sex, or fun.

I do not date rational women because "sex, adventure, and passion" is more important to me in this moment than something stable and rational where both sides pull their weight. This is a choice I made.

To sum it up to your original statement, you're demonstrating masculine tension and so is she, so the scale is fucked when it comes to sexual tension because there is no femininity in the picture and no tension. But keep in mind, and what most guys do not get, is that sexual tension is different than the tension it takes to have a relationship and make it work overtime. When a masculine man settles with a masculine woman, it's only a matter of time before they both start dreaming about someone else, even though they have a dream home, nice yard, lots of money,and rarely argue with one another. And marrying a hot, feminine emotional, and illogical, woman can be amazing and fulfilling to a man, until shit needs to get done and she doesn't have the rationality to do it.

In the end you have to decide what you want. You can't have your cake and eat it to.

Post: #9

That's not "rational" it is "calculating" don't mistake the two. She's waiting for Joe moneybags. Essentially she is a gold digger.

Post: #10

(03-09-2017 10:23 PM)killjoy Wrote:  I'm currently in a fuck-buddy relationship with a highly rational woman. She's a career woman, very independent, makes her own money, doesn't want a relationship nor does she have the time for them. By all accounts, she has a very red pill view on relationships. She prefers casual hook ups until she finds the right "prospect" (her words) to eventually settle down with. This is all well and good, and we have fun, but I don't know...Something is deeply off-putting about her and women like this

I always feel like it's a trap and they're going to switch it up on me at any moment...

Or maybe I just prefer highly emotional & chaotic women. Who knows.

If youre thinking "what's up with her" about her, then she's gaming you instead of you gaming her

Post: #11

There's nothing wrong with a rational woman, as long as she doesn't substitute that for a feminine side of vulnerability and sweetness. I'm not sure that sweet automatically means illogical or vice versa.

Post: #12

As much as I do not like babysitting a grown ass woman I have to say that highly feminine women who are emotional irrational and illogical are much more sexy in general.

I guess there is a price for everyrything

Post: #13

I suppose it depends on your aim; if you're just looking for easy, no strings attached sex, then I suppose a utilitarian-minded women would be more practical; but on the whole women like that aren't particularly attractive (beyond looks), just more "drama free".

Post: #14

This is why strong fathers, brothers, uncles, grandfathers help shape the best women.

They take the burden off feminine illogical women (which makes them wonderful) and in turn they get security knowing they can be fully respected for being feminine women & trust in gladly listening to a man and being lead the right way when they start going off course.

Without this girls because of weak or missing male figures & society's influence makes them either think they need to get rational and fend for themselves, or which is nearly as bad is an illogical girl that has the security (rich daddy / gov. hand out single mom / good looks for free cash and prizes), no one sets them back on course though so they see no reason to - so usually they will only respect strength that is overkill and becomes abusive and dramatic (badboys badboys whatchya gonna do?).

Post: #15

(03-10-2017 03:45 PM)LINUX Wrote:  something stable and rational where both sides pull their weight

i.e. boring. This approach by women is just another way of copying men, or, trying to co-opt the party they think men are having. Not unlike the "pinkening" of the NFL, mens clubs, etc. And yes, at 31-32-33, the bio-alarm clock is ringing off her night stand. She will show you at rare moments, her birthday will be rough, she will always say "she looks old", anything related to her weight will produce tears. There is a happy balance, and its called a Latina with a good job, but she will have the gas pedal to the floor wanting marriage in the first six months.

Post: #16

(03-10-2017 07:30 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  There's nothing wrong with a rational woman, as long as she doesn't substitute that for a feminine side of vulnerability and sweetness. I'm not sure that sweet automatically means illogical or vice versa.

I agree with JMK here. There are too many instances of pseudo in modern day society and people pass it off as the real deal. Pseudo-intelligence, pseudo-rationalism and so on. If a lizard was so rational, then she would work in alliance with her biology and not try to fight her nature. Acting like a man isn't rational if one isn't a man. I used to drill a career lizard. Rational and so on so forth. It was all B.S. She was talking about open relationship but I was hitting those guts so vigorously, her plan went to pot. Best thing to do is not take these lizards seriously and just view them as trolls. They are just trolling for attention and often bored and disappointed that the 'glamour' of being a man is savagely offset by the responsibilities of being a man (which their genetic fabric doesn't prepare them for dealing with).

Post: #17

I had an awesome LTR with a stable, rational, calm woman.

It was ultimately a bit boring, she was no good in the sack and unentertaining.

But it was so refreshing not living on a powderkeg, awaiting in the inevitable flare up over nothing that most women manage.

Hoping for a unicorn who manages the right mix of crazy and rational?

Post: #18

(03-09-2017 10:23 PM)killjoy Wrote:  I'm currently in a fuck-buddy relationship with a highly rational woman. She's a career woman, very independent, makes her own money, doesn't want a relationship nor does she have the time for them. By all accounts, she has a very red pill view on relationships. She prefers casual hook ups until she finds the right "prospect" (her words) to eventually settle down with. This is all well and good, and we have fun, but I don't know...Something is deeply off-putting about her and women like this

I always feel like it's a trap and they're going to switch it up on me at any moment...

Or maybe I just prefer highly emotional & chaotic women. Who knows.

I find women like that very off-putting too, so at least you're not alone in this. I prefer women being more emotional and warm and pleasing and being rational and cold is almost as annoying as being a die hard feminist.

Post: #19

(03-12-2017 03:08 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  But it was so refreshing not living on a powderkeg, awaiting in the inevitable flare up over nothing that most women manage.

Now we are not talking about BPD women, but what I would call a "hard loving" women. A woman that texts you often about how much she loves you. A women that showers you with gifts. Mind blowing, constant and long term sex. One that serves you, and treats you as her man. I had one GF like that. A latina. She was wonderful, but wanted marriage, and that was the pay off. All of that came with a price. She has a great high powered job, an insane body, dances, cooks, is as feminine as a woman can be. But the cost for receiving that long term is giving her what she wants, i.e. babies.

I dont think its about walking on egg shells or living with a powder keg, but how much we are willing to let one of these "hard loving" women into our lives.