Post: #301

The women as leaders trope is strikingly reminiscent to the "they're just not doing communism properly" idea.

How much more evidence do people need?

Post: #302

(12-25-2018 11:46 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(12-25-2018 01:45 PM)Waqqle Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 11:24 PM)Mark Fletcher Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 11:15 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 11:10 PM)Jaydublin Wrote:  ^^^^ Trumps sons are the only ones who Cant be bought and can continue the shitlording. I hope Don Jr runs against Pence in the 2024 primaries.

Ivanka is sexy, but that's all. I'd never vote for her. At the end of the day she's just another basic white girl with just a little more class.

Another woman in charge. That's exactly what we need. Haven't had nearly enough of women calling the shots. Don't get me wrong, she would likely be the least bad female presidential candidate but even self-described "conservative" women are prone to female nonsense.

Merkel, Park Geun-hye, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner are three recent examples of a female heads of state who would have been considered "conservative" candidates in their respective countries but who each succeeded in almost single-handedly collapsing those countries.

Women are inherently unsuited for the presidency.

Yeah, I was wrong on that one. What a let down.

After Palin & Ivanka, it's looking like finding America's Thatcher is hopeless. If only we could have our Iron Lady after Trump.

I would obviously prefer a world in which women did not vote, but that's not how things are.

Post: #303

Post: #304

(12-31-2018 05:10 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

Obviously, this tweet is hitting something many of us know already, that there is a main string puller(s) giving orders to many of the DemocRATs to make sure that they disseminate only string puller(s) approved messages.

Post: #305

Hillary let the Chinese peruse her server. Obama and Kerry were Iranian assets. Ilhan Omar is now a Somalian asset. And Pelosi is enabling her with a position on the House Foreign Affairs Committee. Where presumably she will have access to various secret material.

Read the whole thing. Go to the source, it is a good company. I'm not posting the excerpt here--it is a long article, with lots of links.

Ilhan Omar Endorsed Somalia’s New President. Four Days Later, Omar’s Brother-in-Law Had a Powerful Job in His Administration

Post: #306

(01-30-2019 12:59 PM)MOVSM Wrote:  Hillary let the Chinese peruse her server. Obama and Kerry were Iranian assets.

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Post: #307

Did I miss out on a joke?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobr...l-n2518338

https://www.breitbart.com/live/second-pr...lion-iran/

https://freebeacon.com/national-security...ments-u-s/

Post: #308

^^^

That was their Money, it was held due to sanctions, basically it should have been paid.

Post: #309

we should have paid a regime hostile to us--an enemy--the money from a friendly regime that was overthrown? don't be ridiculous.

sure the iranians wanted that money and got friendly politicians who hated their country to give it to them. and then they got the nuclear program that was never going to be checked and one that produces nuclear weapons.
that makes them iranian assets.

Post: #310

(01-30-2019 01:54 PM)MOVSM Wrote:  we should have paid a regime hostile to us--an enemy--the money from a friendly regime that was overthrown? don't be ridiculous.

sure the iranians wanted that money and got friendly politicians who hated their country to give it to them. and then they got the nuclear program that was never going to be checked and one that produces nuclear weapons.
that makes them iranian assets.

The Shah was overthrown by the deep state, he and Iran had become too powerful and independent in the 1970s, can't allow that in Israel's backyard. This pattern is almost the natural trajectory with many dictators installed by the CIA, like Saddam or Noriega, they get deposed when they grow too powerful and independent.





Iran, like many other middle eastern countries in the 1950s, was a thriving fledgling modern secular democracy, its elected president Mosaddegh was overthrown in a CIA-backed coup (Operation Ajax). Mosaddegh wanted to nationalize persian oil production, which his colonial predecessors had given away to BP/Shell. Interestingly eough, one of the leaders in this project was Norman Schwarzkopf Sr, Stormin Norman's dad...





Khomeini was groomed and installed to keep Iran down, and to plunge his country and the region in very destructive wars like the Iran-Iraq war, which set both countries back 20 years and squandered most of their wealth. Khomeini was groomed in England and France.





So really, there is no excuse for not giving Iran its money back, especially given how destructive for Iran US policies have been since WW2.

Post: #311

Nothing ever became of the Awan brothers computer services? LOL

Post: #312

911,
none of that matters right now. the iranian regime constantly threatens us, wages proxy wars on our allies--you don't enable their activity and you don't give them money which they will use to finance weapons programs, including nuclear. trump was right to put an end to that.
the end point point is they got useful idiots who then worked for the benefit of iranian regime, and against american interests. that made them iranian assets.

Post: #313

(01-30-2019 01:54 PM)MOVSM Wrote:  we should have paid a regime hostile to Israel--an enemy--the money from a friendly regime that was overthrown? don't be ridiculous.

sure the iranians wanted that money and got friendly politicians who hated their country to give it to them. and then they got the nuclear program that was never going to be checked and one that produces nuclear weapons.
that makes them iranian assets.

fixed

It really was Iran's money.(the 150 billion) It doesn't matter that they're hostile to Israel. Iran is absolutely zero threat to invading USA. But by all means keep digging

Post: #314

...which is why they call for death to America all the damn time. right?

Post: #315

Israel is not the only ally in the region.

Post: #316

Our great allies Israel and Saudi are the ones who funded and trained ISIS and the other jihadis represented on your outdated map. Assad with the support of Iran has been able to wipe them out.

That reality might be a bit outside of your bluepilled Overton window, you need to step outside your neocon fearmonging infomill, assuming you're not an Israel firster to start with.

Post: #317

In 3 or 7 years there are going to shitload more people on the planet shouting "death to America". Mostly because it's a lot easier than shouting "death to the headquarters of the satanic pedophile Jewish war-golem, but please spare the nice people who obliviously pay their taxes to build the machines killing us by the million."

All of us in the West need to focus on cleaning our own house and letting regional locals do likewise. It's starting to beggar belief that people are living down the road from verifiable pedophiles in the highest offices who abuse children routinely, erstwhile those with selective blindness to the evil in their zip code also carry high and mighty opinions of which foreign nation needs to be bombed into submission for having to audacity to fall onto the GloboJewish shitlist of those same pedophiles.

Post: #318

If I may remind you--the topic of the conversation was NOT whether we should be in those wars to begin with, but how Iran used American politicians to advance its interests to the detriment of the US.

Post: #319

Tell me more about middle eastern nations using American politicians to advance their interests to the detriment of the US.

Post: #320

The topic of the conversation is "The Democratic Party is Imploding".

Post: #321

This sub-thread was on Democrats and foreign policy, more specifically the Iran Deal, so it's not quite an irrelevant tangent here Len.

Post: #322

See, if the mullas were not in charge, I would not have a problem with any of it.

As it stands, the mullas, who believe they are preordained to bring about the end of world so that the hidden imam al-mahdi can return, are constructing their nuclear program to build nuclear weapons.

In the meantime, the USA is the great satan, according to Iran. the "death to america" chants are well documented above. Whether the deep state organized Khomeini's return or not, the result was an attack on US embassy and held Americans as hostages for over a year, after which Iran and America became sworn enemies.

Israel--I don't want to fight any of their wars. I also wish the Israelis would be allowed to fight their own wars and defend themselves. Instead, the Europeans lose their shit anytime Israel retaliates. When Israel tried to bomb Iranian reactors, and Saudis gave them the go, Obama declassified Israeli nuclear program.
Had that happened, we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now.

To recap--I oppose giving money to religious fanatics who want it to finance their nuclear program so they can bring about a nuclear apocalypse.
The US Democratic party officials who worked out a deal beneficial to America's enemy, while getting nothing in return, were wrong and must be considered Iranian assets. Especially when they continue to work against the current administration.
Once the present Iranian regime is gone and Iranians install a normal government, any financial and otherwise assets Iran has in US can go back to them.

Post: #323

The blog in your first link is just hyper-paranoid speculative junk. Other than some blah-dee-blah religious rhetoric thrown out for the masses do you have any actual evidence that the Iranian leadership is going to attempt to cast the world into a nuclear apocalypse?

Not that their piddly little program is capable of that outside of a Tom Clancy fapfest, but do you have the evidence anyway or just speculation?

I seem to recall for decades we were told that as soon as North Korea built a nuke "it was all over". Then it was "we can't let them build a viable missile". Now it's just the usual disarmament rhetoric.

Where is the hard evidence that Iran wants a nuke for any reason other than defending themselves against multiple hostile nations, Israel in particular, who want them exterminated? What in the hell happened to Occam's Razor?

Post: #324

So do we still feel the Democrat Party is imploding? They seem to have recovered nicely and are comfortably shifting into this new direction with Progressives and Democrat Socalists replacing the classic liberals or whatever they liked to call themselves. Heck they even gained the house last election. And their field of potential candidates for the presidential run is the size of an ocean, full of vibrant diversity and vaginas.

Seems to me the Dems have gone with the plan they've long had in anticipating of the demographic change, probably a little earlier than they planned because of Trump. Will the sleepy silent majority go for this new look? I think we have one or two more presidential elections before energizing the base will no longer save the Republican party. God knows they won't be staffing this Israel controlled Zionist party with Reactionaries and actual Nationalists to combat their counterparts. Once Trump is done they'll quickly dump civic nationalism and go back to neo-conservatism, not that it will matter at that point.

Post: #325

Here's a non-conspiratorial study, along with sources. https://www.meforum.org/1985/ahmadinejad-and-the-mahdi


Israel is not the one threatening Iran, but Iran regularly threatens Israel and USA, and has Hezbollah doing their dirty work for them.

I already showed you, Iran is ran by religious fanatics who think nuclear apocalypse is their destiny. North Korea is not a good comparison--they're not a theocracy. Although their stated goal was to reach US with their missiles.