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Feminism - Strategic Engagement?
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Feminism - Strategic Engagement?
Feminism considers the constitutional guarantee of Due Process to be inconvenient. In consequence, I consider Feminism to be an extremely dangerous political ideology. How best to counter?

Feminism seems to directly oppose having a rational discussion for resolving societal ills in divorce, child custody, rape/sexual assault, gender pay gap/glass ceiling, mental illness/suicide, etc. It is either their way or they will silence your alternative viewpoint. They are a very strong political bloc.

I have come to believe that rather than skirmishing with them on the individual issues, it would be best to unify the various opposition groups into a unified power bloc opposed to Feminism itself. As far as I can tell there is no singular anti-feminist movement. The Men’s Rights Movement doesn’t count because they are not anti-feminist, but only pro-men’s rights. In general, people don’t care about men’s rights. They only care when it is in service of the larger goals of society, children, and/or women.

The Abortion debate seems to be the best issue upon which to build a unified power bloc. There is an active Pro-Life movement which has substantial support within the Republican Party. The other opposition groups are most likely indifferent to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice, but could be persuaded to support Pro-Life if that would mean support for their positions.

What do you think would be the best approach to destroying Feminism as a political powerhouse?
02-07-2017 10:23 PM
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RE: Feminism - Strategic Engagement?
I'd say:-
1)attack them and laugh at them as unfeminine, repulsive and incapable of getting men, and therefore kids.
2)boycott them and their backers in the workplace.
3)share your retail custom, business activity , life with healthy people and businesses instead.
4)support a lobbying group, a legal claims group, a think tank that supports healthy ideals.
5)develop intelligent well thought rationales on blogs, link them in online newspaper comments sections/forums etc.
6)tell your political party you won't vote for an antimale zealot as your local candidate. Set up a pro male group within your own local political party.

I'm in England and I'd also adopt similar tactics vs other enemy groups such as extremist Islamist migrants, sexual extremists (ie fag-ism promoters etc) the private school "old boy network" who hate (and discriminate vs) people who went to state schools etc
02-08-2017 05:54 AM
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RE: Feminism - Strategic Engagement?
Best way to counter is make sure your male friends don't get caught in that bullshit. Men lead and women follow. Make sure they understand that it's nothing more than a female supremacy ideology. Make sure they do not not support their bad behaviour, they should instead reward good behaviour. When the feminist bloc is reduced to a group of degenerate fatties running around carrying some signs, people will naturally mock and their movement will cocoon until their next incarnation.

Listen/read to Milo. Learn that the vast majority of the feminist myths are... false. Learn how to counter them with facts. Keep your shit together when in a discussion. Nobody likes a shrieking harpy.

Make sure you say that men and women are by nature different (and make them acknowledge that), but should have the same rights AND same duties as well. Men excel, by nature in some areas and women do better in others, which doesn't mean that it is impossible to find a woman doing better in a man-area and vice-versa. Just more difficult.
02-08-2017 06:22 AM
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RE: Feminism - Strategic Engagement?
Lots of people have no respect for feminism, you just wouldn't know it because feminists and their sympathizers publish in many of the media and blogging outlets.

At my call center there are a surprising amount of men - and women - who aren't feminists and/or have outright disdain for it. Most of these people are busy and worried with life. The only real way I've found to try to get them to connect the dots is to very slowly drop a truth bomb here and there. "Red pill" them - SLOWLY

Quoting Bill Burr works wonders.

You need to be humorous in your approach and witty when discussing feminism at all. Don't come off as an asshole, rather just be serious, but light at the same time. We all know about agree and amplify, but that's KEY here.

If the "wage gap" comes up at all, don't bother refuting it. Just say things like "We should definitely pay doctors and school teachers the same amount of money. In fact, lets pay the teachers more than the doctors! 8 years of medical school isn't that expensive."

Give them reason to google things for themselves. Let them explore. That's how you start going down the rabbit hole. Sure, some of them might stumble upon feminist nonsense and further cement their ignorance. Plenty of others won't.


That is how you start a coalition and bring more into the fold. It's a long game though. Be patient and keep building.

"Be a leader and never ever follow" That's what my father, that's what he always told me. So with those words boldly spoken, he sent me down a long and hard road.

My site and my journey into marriage and fatherhood.

Deus Vult brothers.
02-08-2017 01:18 PM
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RE: Feminism - Strategic Engagement?
Its pretty hard to undo the combined, concentrated efforts of the education system, media and advertising propaganda machines.

They have a life times headstart on you as well.
02-09-2017 08:42 PM
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RE: Feminism - Strategic Engagement?
All, thanks for your comments.

I recently had a discussion with a law firm and a non-profit on the death of Due Process in our university campuses. A lot of good work has been done, but the opposition is very strong and entrenched. I will be becoming more involved with them.

I agree with your general conclusions that the battle needs to be fought on the cultural narrative. The alternative viewpoint needs to be promoted more. Once supporters understand that Feminism is counterproductive to women and larger society, then the movement will collapse - like Communism in the Soviet Union.
02-11-2017 11:29 AM
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