If Americans have to start taking in French refugees from the severe violence coming to their country, I hope they vet them by making sure they are French Nationalist Front connected people. If not, let them stay and suffer their decision to turn their country over to invaders.
(05-07-2017 01:54 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote: It sucks to see all the wrong people jubilant and happy about this, but it was expected.
I recall my interaction with a group of French tourists in Krakow in February 2016, only 3 months after the Paris massacre. When I asked them what they reckons of FN and Le Pen, this was the answer: "O no way, they are terrifying...they'll just make the terrorism problem worse?" I asked how come ? , they responded: "Le Pen wants France for French people mostly. It's dangerous and gives excuses to more terrorists."
LEPEN WANTS FRANCE FOR FRENCH PEOPLE MOSTLY = DANGEROUS EXTREMIST
Same with one of my current flatmates who is French and is grinning no end today. Impossible to have a political discourse with them, they genuinely think they've just voted against return of Nazism. It all stems to the culturally marxism reason. They don't dislike Le Pen because they actually believe she would be the next Hitler, they genuinely believe mass immigration not to be a concern. I asked my French friends if they believe both countries would run as normal if we swapped the 10M ethnic Swedes with 10M population of Somalia, so all Somalians live and run Sweden and vice versa, and all believed it's not the PEOPLE that make the country, but rather the borders. For that reason, they completely dismiss the scary demographic change looming and of course the islamic problem that accelerates with it.
How can you reason with these people? They genuinely seem to believe women wear burqa as it's a choice and allowing it shows their "progressive" and "liberal" and "religious freedom" values. Frankly, as horrible as it may sound, I keep asking, why do I seem to care more about their country and culture' future than they do?
Until we get a better control and grip of the media and the information war, we won't have meaningful victories. It may be too late when that , if ever, happens.
There's a blogger named Anonymous Conservative who espouses r/K selection theory which postulates that these voting trends and globalist nation destroying policies are genetic in nature and origin.
In short, it's in the leftists' DNA.
r's (leftists) are like rabbits. They gorge themselves on free resources and abundance (welfare, cellphones, starbucks frappucinos, etc). They don't care so much for offspring because they have a lot of them. They are against competition in any sense, for sexualization of the young and other, evil, leftist tendencies.
K's (conservatives/ nationalists) are like wolves. They care of the group, foster competition and distrust outsiders (for good reasons) They put a lot of effort into raising a few young.
These characteristics are genetic and (science has shown) the amygdala and other areas of the brain are different in rabbit people and K people. It's interesting stuff and there's a lot of reading material on his blog. He also wrote a book called "The Evolutionary Psychology behind Politics.
Stephan Molyneaux has some informative videos on it.
r's vote in mass migrants because (even though they won't admit it and maybe don't even consciously realize it themselves) they want the "K's" that they are importing to kill off their own indigenous K's, that is, their "K" conservative/nationalist countrymen.
The theory goes that, when this happens, since their K countrymen are being killed off, there will be less competition and it will be easier for them to have access to their females and other resources that the K's now dominate and control.
It's a biological urge which drives these voting patterns, policies and thought processes originating in their genetic makeup and amygdala.
Of course, being the useful idiots they are, they don't realize that they will be killed off too and, really, since they're usually weaker, perhaps even first. But, that's okay with them, because, unlike a wolf who cares for other wolves, a rabbit doesn't care so much when another rabbit is torn apart by a hawk. The rabbit just keeps contentedly munching grass in the vast pasture of endless resources. The rabbit can always have a dozen other rabbits.
Dark stuff but I think it's a valid theory and there's probably truth it it if it's not outright 100% correct.
It really explains why you can't convince 99% of them. They're programmed that way. It's in their genes to vote these migrants in and bring down their own "K's"
I get the broad contours of what you are saying but the argument has to be tightened up. Leftist Whites, Asians, and Jewish people have much lower tfr than conservatives of those groups. They are also much more prone to helicopter-parenting...i.e. putting in a huge amount of time/resources/oversight into raising their one or two children that they might have. Conservative parents aren't as prone to helicopter parenting.
05-07-2017 04:12 PM
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Remind yourself gentlemen, that this was not a small defeat. The margins right now are anywhere between 20-30 percentage points between MLP and Macron. As I said earlier, the name and brand of Le Pen is absolutely toxic, and I knew her threshold was not much higher than the first election. Her next move is to break off all ties with Front National and move on to a greener pasture, vetting a new candidate who doesn't carry all the baggage that she does. This is NOT, however, going to be her niece Marion Marechal. That name is still absolutely toxic, and a pretty face will not change that.
Macron really seems like the biggest puppet of all puppets here. However, I don't foresee much massive change happening, just a steady continuation of the destructive policies of Hollande. Let's just say I wouldn't want to be around a crowded area in Paris or Marseille anymore. But for the majority, life goes on.
As Roosh said years and years ago, enjoy the decline.
I had once read that many of the bravest best men throughout Europe were killed during WWII. Such an awful war. The r/K selection theory seems to be holding true if enough of the K genetics were killed out and the r Selection people are voting Europe further and further left and into a cultural suicide.
(05-07-2017 04:40 PM)beta_plus Wrote: This is a dark day for mankind. As much as I have liked giving France a hard time over the years, it's the centerpiece of human civilization.
I knew that I always fortunate to be an American, but today really showed me the hard way that God really did bless America.
America got lucky in that WWII was not fought on our soil and in that the Bolsheviks realized they could beat the USA not with war, but with a liberal hippy movement to break their spirit/society slowly over time and then conquer from within.
(05-07-2017 03:55 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote: If Americans have to start taking in French refugees from the severe violence coming to their country, I hope they vet them by making sure they are French Nationalist Front connected people. If not, let them stay and suffer their decision to turn their country over to invaders.
Breaking News, Going Strong headed for New York. Carries a bag full of rare Pepes, asks for political asylum in the USA. Offers to help build the Wall for free with his bare hands.
How many children do Chancellor of Germany, President of France, and PM of Netherlands have combined?
A BIG FAT ZERO
These evil globalist-puppet leaders simply have no stake in the future. They have no skin in the game for when shit hits the fan. They have zero in personal stake for the future of their countries. Why would Merkel/Macron/Rutte care about a civil war or caliphate in Europe in 20-30 years when they would most likely be dead anyways, and have no children to be directly threatened or could get harmed then ?
Always be very skeptical of child-less politicians.
(05-07-2017 03:55 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote: If Americans have to start taking in French refugees from the severe violence coming to their country, I hope they vet them by making sure they are French Nationalist Front connected people. If not, let them stay and suffer their decision to turn their country over to invaders.
Breaking News, Going Strong headed for New York. Carries a bag full of rare Pepes, asks for political asylum in the USA. Offers to help build the Wall for free with his bare hands.
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05-07-2017 05:29 PM
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(05-07-2017 04:48 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote: America got lucky in that WWII was not fought on our soil and in that the Bolsheviks realized they could beat the USA not with war, but with a liberal hippy movement to break their spirit/society slowly over time and then conquer from within.
It is coming here too, rest assured.
The Bolsheviks are a globalist arm, funded by Wall Street, mostly by the local branch of the Rothschilds, the Schiffs, who shared the same house with Mayer Rothschilds in their native Frankfurt. Lenin was their man in Russia, and one hundred years later, Macron their man in France.
Macron chose to set his victory speech at the foot of the Louvre Pyramid, with its top lit, despite the fact that the setting is awkward, with a huge area right in the middle/front of the stage where the crowd couldn't go. He referenced in his short speech the "audacious triumph of the Pyramid", and fighting for "the Lumieres", the new world order enlightenment philosophy. Total tool.
Unfortunately, the fastest growing 'young' demographic in France is Muslim. This does not bode well for France and Europe in general.
I have become convinced that Europe will descend into civil war in the not so distant future. I am just not sure which country will go first (France, Sweden, Germany, Spain?)
Future French President/Emir Francois Mohammed Bin Laden. His campaign promise, fly in the Kaaba and have it replace the Eiffel Tower.
“….and we will win, and you will win, and we will keep on winning, and eventually you will say… we can’t take all of this winning, …please Mr. Trump …and I will say, NO, we will win, and we will keep on winning”.
- President Donald J. Trump
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(05-07-2017 03:55 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote: If Americans have to start taking in French refugees from the severe violence coming to their country, I hope they vet them by making sure they are French Nationalist Front connected people. If not, let them stay and suffer their decision to turn their country over to invaders.
Breaking News, Going Strong headed for New York. Carries a bag full of rare Pepes, asks for political asylum in the USA. Offers to help build the Wall for free with his bare hands.
mikado, do you see the irony of you gloating with the pic of a rusty ship, when hundreds of thousands of your people are getting on such ships trying to cross the Mediterranean because globalists like Macron have been destroying your continent?
Gay cakes and trans bathrooms: the most important human rights issues of our times, surely.
I did not post the pic of the ship, Going Strong did.
I am just responding to his wish to get out of France, by wishing him a good travel.
And frankly I don't care about any illegal migrant from Africa, I only respect those who try to do it legally, like me. Sending them all back, or having them board with Going Strong, both options are fine by me.
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I guess its like Alex Jones said just an hour ago - the french are cucks who have bowed down to hitler and will keep bowing down to whoever invades next.
Such a shame. What used to be the goddess of music, philosophy and art will soon be islamic state.
Europeans seem to have forgotten what they even fought for and how many people lost their lives.
"For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad."
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(04-23-2017 02:24 PM)Mr. Accuride Wrote: I just don't see Le Pen's path to victory, or anything that would provide a large enough payoff to justify betting on her based on her head-to-head gap with Macron.
Trump was -3% in the popular vote with a +/-2% error bar, and many places were offering bets that could return 8/1 or better on Trump.
Brexit was almost dead even with a +/- 2% error bar, and many places were offering 3/1 or better betting on Brexit.
Both of those situations were obvious money makers.
Presently, Macron leads Le Pen something like 60-40, with popular vote being the deciding factor and I highly doubt the error bars for these polls are 30 points. Not enough to justify the paltry 5/2 or 3/1 returns on betting on Le Pen unless you do something drastic like short French bonds.
Presently, Le Pen's chances of winning are about the same as asking Trump to flip NY or VT, and the second round of voting is only a few weeks away. So depending on the prices offered for Macron and Le Pen, I might just sink lots of money betting on Macron anyway, even if it's not the result I really want. It would take something like terrorists detonating a nuclear bomb in Paris for Le Pen to win.
EDIT: FWIW, I made some money shorting Fillon, but wasn't taking it too seriously.
So I took Macron at 2/1 before the first vote, and at 1/7 after the first vote, and I also played against Fillon at 1/2, for a combined total win of $2500. Not really that spectacular, but I didn't really see any plays that offered a good return on Macron.
If I ever visit France, I'll be sure to study some Arabic and memorize some Koran verses beforehand.
The French are a funny lot aren't they? It's almost like they are like the English but ten times more concentrated. Now I see where the mutual dislike comes from.
The French call the English arrogant. But the English call the French Arrogant!
Ad infinitum...
The little time I spent in France was a revelation to its people. It was a different age back then though. It was basically full of French people, not like today, so maybe I am qualified to judge on that point of French purity.
It was very 50/50. Some hated us for being British, some loved us. Some hated the English, but were more amenable when it turned out we were Welsh. Ha.
More South of France though, so no experiences with Paris etc.
But they certainly were not shy about giving shit to us, lowly Englishmen, that we were in their eyes. And now here they are, unafraid to speak the truth that dare not speak its name. Cowards. Just like the English, on the whole really.
Separated by a gulf that is the channel. Separated by a gulf that is our disparate languages. Not so separated by our 'I'm alright jack - fuck you' attitude. Who woulda thunk it? We have so much in common these days.
Don't forget that some of the most sickest paedophile shit has gone on in France. They are bought and paid for too. France is an extremely powerful nation as a world-player in geopolitics. Yeah, they have the bomb. They are also fearsome fighters with a well-trained army. Historically they are a mighty warring nation. All this is just a smoke show. Macro boy is Tony Blair Mk.II - came out of nowhere - gay as fuck - Bilderberger meeting earlier on.
Nothing changes.
The bottle gets fizzed up. The cork on tighter than ever. Waiting to pop.
That is my astute political analysis anyway. If someone else can point out exactly what is going on in this mixed up, twisted world of ours, I'm all ears.
There will need to be many re-calibrations of the compass before I even begin to get a heading with all this shit.
(05-07-2017 01:54 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote: It sucks to see all the wrong people jubilant and happy about this, but it was expected.
I recall my interaction with a group of French tourists in Krakow in February 2016, only 3 months after the Paris massacre. When I asked them what they reckons of FN and Le Pen, this was the answer: "O no way, they are terrifying...they'll just make the terrorism problem worse?" I asked how come ? , they responded: "Le Pen wants France for French people mostly. It's dangerous and gives excuses to more terrorists."
LEPEN WANTS FRANCE FOR FRENCH PEOPLE MOSTLY = DANGEROUS EXTREMIST
Same with one of my current flatmates who is French and is grinning no end today. Impossible to have a political discourse with them, they genuinely think they've just voted against return of Nazism. It all stems to the culturally marxism reason. They don't dislike Le Pen because they actually believe she would be the next Hitler, they genuinely believe mass immigration not to be a concern. I asked my French friends if they believe both countries would run as normal if we swapped the 10M ethnic Swedes with 10M population of Somalia, so all Somalians live and run Sweden and vice versa, and all believed it's not the PEOPLE that make the country, but rather the borders. For that reason, they completely dismiss the scary demographic change looming and of course the islamic problem that accelerates with it.
How can you reason with these people? They genuinely seem to believe women wear burqa as it's a choice and allowing it shows their "progressive" and "liberal" and "religious freedom" values. Frankly, as horrible as it may sound, I keep asking, why do I seem to care more about their country and culture' future than they do?
Until we get a better control and grip of the media and the information war, we won't have meaningful victories. It may be too late when that , if ever, happens.
Someone wrote on the Migrant invasion of Europe thread a few days ago about Europeans smug attitude toward anything that resemblance American exceptionalism, the idea is, Europeans hate hate hate being perceived as closed minded, and not smart, the French election was a way of French people saying "see? we are not dumb closed minded like Americans, we did not elect a populist".
Social shaming works very well in Europeans, they wanted to prove they are somehow better than Americans, one thing helped Brexit happens was it was done before USA election, if French election happened before Trump was elected Le Pen could have won.
In the video above they discus Europe politics, at one point Cohen said something very important, while Europeans pretends to try to be the opposite of America, at the same time they want to copy America.
He mentions how the freedom of movement within the EU (the Schengen area/Eurozone) is a way to copy America freedom of moving from one state to the other state without having to show documentation.
The Euro is an attempt to be he Europeans version of the USA dollar, the European Union is an attempt to be a United State Of Europe. You can see many pro EU wanting to turn the EU into a super state super nation with its own army.
However as Cohen explains in the video, you cannot copy America without having the American culture, you cannot copy America without having freedom of speech and guns rights, which are almost not existent in most EU member countries.
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