Post: #26

Long distance not going to work, of course shes going to get a fill in dick.

Good thing there are millions of other women out there that live nearby you and are interested. Go find them!

Good luck bro

Post: #27

Hope you recover from this quickly OP. This is a blessing in disguise if you ask me. Take care of ya son, go lay another woman asap and move on.

Like others have mentioned, the girl (your ex) was just acting normal. All woman would have cheated put in the same enviroment. Be glad she didn't hide it well or else you would be raising some other players kid..not proud but i'm sure some other beta is raising a couple of my kids (before I had a vasectomy). Chulk it up to game and move on.

Post: #28

(01-18-2017 01:26 PM)Altrighter Wrote:  

(01-18-2017 12:44 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Moral of the story:

Never get into a long distance relationship - it NEVER works out.
Never get into a long distance long term relationship - it NEVER works out.
Never give a bitch an inch, she'll take a mile.


You have to remember, this bitch is NINETEEN, of course she's going to act immature and extremely emotional.

She quite literally is a girl, and not a woman.

As has been repeated - you dodged a bullet - time to learn and move on.

I have good frame and was very dominating towards her, but no matter what, if you live far you can have rock solid frame but will be fucked up.

Just because you were a dick towards her a few times and spit on her in public doesn't mean your frame was strong. I've been cheated on too, and I fucked her in the ass and came all over her face several times a week. But she exploited my weaknesses and I caved, allowing her to manipulate and control the situation. It took that ass-kicking for me to introspect and develop myself into a stronger man. You need to quit bullshitting us and yourself and do the same.

It's time for nasty, bitter pill, or else you'll find yourself clamoring for a similar chick. She messaged you 40 fucking times after you told her it's over. Not only did you respond, but you gave her another chance. That is not indicative of a strong frame.

She practically ghosted you for two months, you felt in your gut that something was amiss, and what did you do? You proposed to her two months later. Once again, not indicative of a strong frame.

And lastly, you told her EXACTLY what you wanted from a girl. Guess what she did? She sold you a bill of goods. She said she had only fucked a couple of guys so you wouldn't see her as a slut or non-wife material. She fed you a line, said she wanted to be a mother and possibly convert to your religion. It was all a facade, bait at the end of a fishing line. And you bit, hard.

She played the shit out of you. On top of that, she was ready and willing to let you raise another man's kid. Think about that for a moment. You were on the brink of raising another man's spawn. She was letting another dude bust his nut inside of her while still intending to marry you, lie, and tell you that you were the father.

Swallow that pill. Recognize your weaknesses, shore them up, and grow from this.

Post: #29

Quote:slapped her ass in public from time to time, slapped her in the face on the streets and 2 times even spat on her face in public; all of that turned her on.

I feel your loss. You guys made the perfect couple. Simply classy, it had all the ingredients to have an happy ending.

Cara, você é o Rei! Zuca é foda kkk

Post: #30

Seems like youve learnt your lesson. Try and find a nice girl now...

Post: #31

Travesty dispensing with the Real Talk per normal. Right on.

I agree with his assessment that there were red flags all over this one from the start. This is why it is super critical for any many considering a LTR with a girl to have a set of filtering principles which would rule out types like this chick. By some standards, she actually had some nice things going for her, but her red flags cancel those out. I'm sure the OP has learned a very hard lesson about ignoring red flags when he filters for women next time around.

(01-18-2017 12:44 PM)Travesty Wrote:  Long distance.

Parents divorced.

Girl moves to big city.

Those are 3 very strong strikes plus probably 16 more in your posts.

Also you say you are very good with women, you have had 3 partners at 32? Also that you have a child already and you are not with the mother?

This also points to a hugely over-inflated ego about your Game (which is much more than just having flirty conversations and banging chicks) about how you choose women, how you deal with them, how much experience you really have to see the signs...

I know we have a thing on this board about guys turning it around etc... after a bad divorce and getting royally screwed over by chicks in their life before they learn game.

I strongly believe everyone is born and raised with a certain amount of natural game baseline which is up to chance.

Guys that really fuck up before getting into the game have to realize their natural game baseline is often horrific. Meaning they have to watch out and really test their behavior harder than the average guy because they are much more prone to large mistakes no matter how long they practice game.

Post: #32

(01-18-2017 09:17 AM)Altrighter Wrote:  ...
In the end I was very stupid to keep going on after all these red flags and trust her crying: I trusted her words about building a family and didn't see her actions. Amateur. But it is all good, I would be REALLY FUCKED if I had married this bloke.

I really hope this isn't some sort of Freudian slip.

Post: #33

You got taken in by a woman who likes sex a lot. It's easy to fall for that. You forgot that she's going to pursue sex all the time.

Get up. Dust yourself off. Move on.

Post: #34

(01-18-2017 09:07 AM)Altrighter Wrote:  Okay, this is recent news and I knew on friday.

Just some backup on the story: 1 year of relationship, I'm 32, she's 20 (was 19 when we began), a 7, long distance relationship (about 14 hours away and we would see each other each 2 months). I live in Brazil (am brazilian). She had a protestant upbringing and lately was considering conversion to orthodox christianity (I'm an orthodox christian myself). She also said and acted (her mother confirmed that to me) that she always dreamed of having a huge family and being a stay-at-home mother, that the women should be sumbissive to its husband and lot of other traditional beliefs. She didn't want to start university (even though she liked to read about theology, philosophy, read her bit of Julius Evola, René Guenon and those other traditionalist authors). At the same time she wasn't that kind of brainy/sarcastic girl, being usually sweet, submissive and affectionate (not only on words, but actions). Pretty much the type of girl you'd consider marrying (I thought: unicorn).

Now on me, I'm short (1,69m), an ectomoprh (I lift but am a hardgainer), have a 2 and a half years old son (from an old relationship which I broke up). Before my conversion I read a lot about Game and actually was quite good with women, specially due to my bold personality. But in the last years I got fed up with all of that and started to see everything as supericial. At the same time I converted and decided to have a family, a traditional one, with a stay at home mother, etc.

So, since the beginning we talked about marriage, etc. But she wasn't a virgin, first of all (she said she had 2 very small times on her life where she did things wrong and had sex, one time with a girl; I didnt ask further questions because I always told her about my limit number of partners - about 3 - and thought if she had more she would get it and leave me). She would beg to talk to me in the beginning, send messages all the time, making public displays of affection on Facebook and personally would be by my side all the time. At about september I noticed some changes, she was sending less messages and everything, but I thought it had to do with the 6 months mark. At the same time her life changed a lot (she moved to another city to live with her father, a bigger city - the parents are divorced), she finally found a job (when she liwved with her mother she didn't have a job and wasn't studying), went to the gym like crazy and started to uso more makeup and high heels. Started to send less messages and being more aloof. It was clear she was getting more attention from men.

I knew what I was doing: I was never needy, always showed less affection than her, and even though I'm religious was an asshole towards her a lot of times: slapped her ass in public from time to time, slapped her in the face on the streets and 2 times even spat on her face in public; all of that turned her on. Made sure to fuck her like a beast and she cummed. Anyway, last november we got engaged and since then things went south pretty fast. She would come late from her work at the mall each day (saying it was the movement of the end of the year, etc.) and we had a huge fight when I saw I pic of her instagram not using the ring (I broke up and as always she came sobbing saying you're right, I wont do it, I forgot it on my desk when I pulled it off to take a shower). Last december, the 11th, we had our last fight: the day before it was the end of the year celebration of her store on a pub at the mall, she told me she would come back soon, etc., and at the 11th I woke up with no message whatsoever and just sent an audio saying it was the end, she then sent me 40 messages on WhatsApp begging for a last chance, which I gave (before, of course, she gave an excuse, saying she got home with a new cellphone - which she had told me she would buy before - and, as her fathers were sleeping and she didn't know the password she couldn't tell me). Just keep that date in mind: 11th of december, the time she asked for a last chance.

Fast forward and I'm there for the end of the year now (from 31 of dec till the 4th of january). I notice how she is too distant. We fucked and everything and when I got back, 2 days later she started to feel sick and vomit a lot. She goes to the hospital with her father and tell me, after the exam, she is pregnant. I talked to her father and we said she would come sooner to live with me (next month was the planning), in order to arrange the marriage. Fast forward to last friday: she went with her stepmother to the clinic to see how many weeks her baby had and it showed 6 weeks and 5 days. Her stepmother, of course, caught her lie at the moment and probably obliged her to call me and tell the truth (she would'nt do it): she called sobbing a lot and I thought she lost the baby... she said I have to tell you something, "you're not the father"; I insulted her a lot, she said please dont leave me and all that bullshit, I closed the phonecall, blocked her on whatsapp and facebook and sold the ring the next day, not before putting all her presents on the trashcan. I asked her how did that happen and she told me it was a guy from the gym, they were talking and one day he went to her store and they went to his home. You remember the date of our last fight, the 11th of december, when she pleaded for a last chance? The guy got her pregnant the day after, the 12th (even her last call was a lie, because she told that was the only time they fucked, clearly BS).

(01-18-2017 10:26 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(01-18-2017 09:17 AM)Altrighter Wrote:  ...
In the end I was very stupid to keep going on after all these red flags and trust her crying: I trusted her words about building a family and didn't see her actions. Amateur. But it is all good, I would be REALLY FUCKED if I had married this bloke.

I really hope this isn't some sort of Freudian slip.

HA! English is not my mother tongue, I'm sure it wasn't a dude.

Post: #35

I think OP is the perfect example of alpha in theory and beta when shit gets real. Relationships with women are emotional warefare, like a game of battleship. When you tell a hoe what you're looking for , they morph to capture your attention and warrant your affection. That's a huge part of the allure for women. Like travesty said , if you analyze your post it's clear the signs were there. You allowed her to sway you from your path (leaving her) with emotional outbursts, tantrums and omitting key details. If that's being good with women, then I've been shaft since I came out my momma. Time to start over.

Post: #36

If the stepmother made her call you, she sounds pretty solid. She saved you from falling in and taking care of kid that wasn't yours.

Post: #37

OP thanks for the story. Can you please list in very specific detail EACH warning sign you experienced going all the way back to the first time you met her?

Thanks

Post: #38

Are you real or trolling? I can count up to... perhaps 20 red flags in your text?

Post: #39

Apart things already listed like long distance:

- on our first meeting she was with no panties under her dress. I fingered her on a public park, slapped her face publicly, all on that day. I mean, for a hoe thats all you want, but not exaxtly the qualities you look for in a wife.

- Since she started to work she became more and more aloof. At the same she changed from a more girl-next-door look when she was 19 to a more femme fatale one (using high heels, makeup everytime, going to the gym everyday)

- she was, like me, against the pill and contraception for religious reasons: at the end of october she told me she started to use the pill because of her acne. I strongly said she can't use that and she lied to me saying she would stop.

- Now that I see, she was a problem for her family. Her life history was basically living with her mother and being kicked out to live with her father and then being kicked out to live with her grandparents and so on. Her reasoning for that would be religious (her family was very calvinist and wouldnt accept that she was venturing into catholicism/orthodoxy). This last trip of mine er father even talked to me about sending her to live with me sooner (because - he said - she had a horrible relationship with her stepmother and that was affecting his marriage).

- We started to talk a lot less on the phone and she wouldnt mind at all (before she would beg for me talk to her). When we talked she was silent most of the time and I did most of the talking. I'd ask about her day and she would just say "woke up, went to the gym, had lunch, went to work and back home".
(Keep in mind she had all these changes but still would say she loves me and kept sending me nude pics, or wearing underwear, etc.)

- we had a fight due to her not using the ring on an instagram pic. Huge fight, she said I was right, Im sorry. The next day she closes her instagram only to followers (I have no Inst). This was already last december, on the end. I wasn't so much worried because she has a lot of friends in common on instagram and even my brother.

- she always liked older men and always has much older boyfriends. Her first one she was 13 and the guy 21 (she said her parents were around all the time and they only holded hands). Btw, she said this guy encountered her on instagram and sent her a direct message. I asked about the content and he told me they only talked trivial things and she told him she would get married. I told her to send me the printed version of the talk and she gave a bullshit answer ("I always delete my conversations on instagram").

- personally she was a lot less affectionate (less touching, etc) since the engagement.

- this january, when I got back, she changed her facebook pic for a pic of Harley Quinn, for some days. When I asked about it she laughed it out saying she didnt kmow the origin, only found it cool. Thats self explanatory.

- I already told about her sexually impulsive nehaviour: we fucked on the movie theater, on the stairs of her apartment building, bathroom of a restaurant, etc. Again, good for a hoe but not for a wife.

Well, I really needed this reality check. Now that I look back it's amazing how many red flags there were that i either ignored or didnt give much importance.

Post: #40

To tell the truth, I thougjt that aloofness was her way of playibg "power games" so I went double on my aloofness. "Ok, couldnt talk today? Then I wont talk tomorrow and the next day", I thought to myself. That way I would regain leverage on the relationship.

You see, sometimes I think about revenge. Serious revenge [mod deletion - we don't advocate for violence] Not because of her, I could care less, but because of the lying and the way she was proudly doing it (the picture of Harley quinn shows her state of mind). In my country we still have the concept of honour.

What really keeps me from doing it is my 2 and a half old son. He needs his father.

Post: #41

You clearly have some issues you need to work out yourself. This girl had so many obvious issues and red flags that you didn't just blatantly ignore but probably looked for. At this point you have to let it go. You got off EASY. If you don't let it go the resentment you have will build up. Resentment is like holding a hot coal waiting to throw it at the resentment. All it does is burn you much worse.

If you want to be there for your son, work out your own anger issues first. A man that is extremely angry to the point where you want to beat someone won't teach a son how to control his emotions and anger. All he will teach is how to be a slave to them.

Post: #42

You dodged a real hard bullet there mate.

The main errors were not even her not wearing panties on a date (though doing it on the first date is a red flag). I've had girls not wearning panties on second dates or knowing them for a while and then she deciding to fuck me and coming over without panties, but that is different than showing up to a date without panties.

I recommend reading up on rational male https://therationalmale.com/

Huge red flags:

+ My guess she lives in the US or Brazil? US is a slut training center - both high school and even more colleges. The same American girls growing up in Germany or France would be highly different. If she grows up in Brazil, then it is only marginally better, but for different reasons.
+ her broken family - the family is already a red flag. They are at one side religious, but on the other side broken up and she gets passed around different family members - this is a huge red sign. That tells you that her family is not stable and religious (truly deeply religious couples try to make it work and rarely divorce even if they are not particularly happy with each other - they do their most to make it work). Also her religious upbringing generally has the oppositive effect on girls as we know - women who are forcibly restricted break out in rebellion. "Being bad feels sooooooo goooooood."
+ long-term relationship over distance is only temporarily possible - the average American 19yo girl is not one of them
+ a 19yo girl tells you that she moves to the Big City (Sex and The City lifestyle) and you think nothing of it?

I don't think that you could have done much frankly. You need to become smarter and more perceptive about girls - you ignored massive red flags. No amount of frame, value or Game would have helped reign in that pony over distance. The only way would be to hire 2 constant body guards who would have to tail her (and even then she would have probably attempted to fuck one or both of them).

And the best status quo would have been to not be in a LTR with her until you were living closer together. Also never ever tell girls that you like them to have notch-counts of 3 or less. The default strategy is to make the impression of being the most liberal cuck out there, who sees it as an enriching way of self-discovery when a girl fucks 100 men before you. Heck - tell her, that you would not even mind if she fucked 300 men before she was 18. That is how you find out the truth and not telling her how you like conservative low-notch count girls.

Another matter - high libido with girls is great, but you gotta watch those ones even more - observe all the signs and symptoms. And you squarely ignored them all. There are ethical high-libido girls - they just use the vibrator a lot when their men are not around - not all girls cheat.

But boy - she honestly wanted you to raise another man's kid and you would have been the paying cuck in that system. Even if you had found out later, then it would have been too late later and you would have to pay decades of child-support for another man's kid! Jeez - I agree with Serious Sam - let that marinate a bit in you. Just don't become bitter - not all women are sluts, but a lot of them are.

Post: #43

(01-18-2017 09:17 AM)Altrighter Wrote:  After all that happened I started to analyze things: her pregnancy was intentional, not accidental. She was fucking this guy at least since the engagement on november. Probably would have dumped me if the guy took her as gf but as times passes by he only fucks her. That's the only reason I can see why she would come back to me when I broke things off. She was affraid to be left with no one. And how she resolves that? Gets pregnant by the guy. Brilliant, that way she could ditch me and also keep the guy.

Even that thing about the guy from the gym is BS, I think. Prety sure she fucked someone from her gym, but I think the guy that got her pregnant and she would go out more is the son of the owner of her store, a guy she has told before was too "gentle" towards her. And the owner of the store is a very rich guy, that's why she could get pregnant confidently.

In the end I was very stupid to keep going on after all these red flags and trust her crying: I trusted her words about building a family and didn't see her actions. Amateur. But it is all good, I would be REALLY FUCKED if I had married this bloke.

I'm a great believer that everything happens for a reason, a damn good one. You had the luckiest escape in your life. You dodged not only a bullet but a fucking scud. Someone up stairs, be it God, Zeus, whatever, had you in mind that day. Take it as a sign and don't even see or call the bitch again.

Run, don't look back.

You can bag a better bird than that dirtbird. She is preggers now and is someone else's problem, not yours.

Post: #44

1. remove her from the pedestal, OP.
2. Thank god the kid isnt yours.
3. Chew and swallow the red pill.

Post: #45

She always lived in Brazil and never even took an airplane her entire life. Of course she is in no pedestal now, but I have to admit I was stupid enough to put her in there during our relationship. You know, there's one thing in the rational male about idealism and I had some criteria about the "perfect girl" and she apparently did fit it: young, pretty, religious (but also with no qualms about sex), wanted to marry, stay at home and have lots of kids. That's one thing I learned the hard way: the one I thought was the perfect girl came out to be the most nasty one.

But here is one thing: her desire to have a traditional and religious family was genuine, at the beginning at least. I say that because she was into orthodox christianity even before me (she didn't because of me, I want to stress that), and everyone on her family would confirm that desire of her since adolescence. But the thing is, SMV is a hell of a drug.

She changed town, was getting prettier by the day and getting hit by guys she wasn't used to (she was an average girl during high school): jacked guys, rich guys, you name it. That changed completely her perception of her own value and she started to think she's even better than she actually is. One thing about 7s is that if they're stupid they start to think they're 8s or higher just because they're hitted on by the same guys. You get a 9 and she is used to that kind of attention since her high school years, there's nothing new. You get a 7 and she will go crazy with all that unprecedent attention from high status men. Like someone said, no amount of game - specially when you live far - can compete with that. And that's exactly what happened: she was being fucked by a guy she never thought before could be interested in her and decided to get pregnant to keep him - an 8 or higher wouldn't do it because she knows deep inside that if the guy goes away she can easily replace him with someone of equal value.

I really believe Real game is relationship game, that's where you draw the line between the good ones and the pretenders. It is easy - to me it always was - to get a bang from a chick, but to keep her loyal to you while she is being hitted on by guys of equal or higher value, now we're talking about a challenge.

Post: #46

There are millionaries in this Forum. There are guys who are jacked as it can, or who have model looks, high social ability, you name it. These guys can afford to marry a 7 if they want relationship stability (and get better women by the side). Me, I'm average. Not rich, tall or jacked. People say I'm good looking and I'm quite bold with women but that's about it.

But the good thing with man is that we're not stuck on looks. This year I'm beginning a serious lifting program and gonna work in some business in the future. Will probably need you guys tips when the time comes.

Post: #47

You don't need massive wealth to get an attractive women. You need just Game and good Red Pill understanding - coupled with experience - that will help you filter out the good girls.

Talk to any intelligent Daygamer who has approached thousands of women - he can tell you which of the girls are actaully good girls who just got seduced by a masculine man and who are sluts. Though this one probably just started with her slutting high on the "success" she suddenly had with men of much higher value.

Poorer countries like Brazil have advantages and disadvantages at the same time. You have black Americans moving to Brazil to marry a woman who appreciates them and then you have the harsher socio-economic climate making it tougher to keep an 8-9 if that woman can be at least the sugarbabe to a wealthy guy and never worry about money anymore. It is not the US where an 8 can make 50.000$-80.000$ as a cocktail waitress.

Also Brazil as far as I know it has a more direct sexual experience - both genders do. But your analysis sounds about right - girl got into her prime sexual market value, got high on that and thought that she could become a rich happy girl. She may have wanted to be good, to be a good Christian wife and mother, but she thought suddenly that she could get much more than that. Maybe get alimony payments from the rich guy and have you as her loving husband who was also attractive to her. Who knows - you may have been the Alpha Fucks in that triangle, but the Beta Bucks can fuck girls too if the Bucks are big enough. If the guy has Alpha traits in combination with big money, then it gets even harder for a woman to resist - at least in a less wealthy country.

Post: #48

- Long Distance + with a 19 yr old
- 13 yr old dating 21 yr old
- Broken Home + Moved around child
- Big city, Gym, Attention..
- "told you notch count you wanted to hear"

Despite her childhood conditioning about wanting family & religion (since her family was broken), her Emotional & Attention spikes are that of a Teenage Instagram Millenial.. And Brazil & its girls (dated some) and guys, from what I've seen are pretty chill and natural about sex.. (more than Americans.. who'd majorly depend & USE Alcohol to pull back inhibitions ) and not has inhibited.. or have hangups about sex..

Even if it was an Indian girl with the above parameters in India, I'd still doubt her with the above listed red flags.. PS: And had not even stayed in Brazil for that long..

As the song goes.. "These ho's aint loyal" She may still have feelings and love for you.. BUT.. her ADD millennial mind.. is like a monkey.. She doesnt know how to control it..

So, I dont take interest in religion as a guarantee of Emotional & Mental.. Grounding & Stability.. Only someone who meditates.. can learn to manage (unless naturally gifted).

(01-22-2017 11:30 AM)Altrighter Wrote:  She always lived in Brazil and never even took an airplane her entire life. Of course she is in no pedestal now, but I have to admit I was stupid enough to put her in there during our relationship. You know, there's one thing in the rational male about idealism and I had some criteria about the "perfect girl" and she apparently did fit it: young, pretty, religious (but also with no qualms about sex), wanted to marry, stay at home and have lots of kids. That's one thing I learned the hard way: the one I thought was the perfect girl came out to be the most nasty one.

But here is one thing: her desire to have a traditional and religious family was genuine, at the beginning at least. I say that because she was into orthodox christianity even before me (she didn't because of me, I want to stress that), and everyone on her family would confirm that desire of her since adolescence. But the thing is, SMV is a hell of a drug.

She changed town, was getting prettier by the day and getting hit by guys she wasn't used to (she was an average girl during high school): jacked guys, rich guys, you name it. That changed completely her perception of her own value and she started to think she's even better than she actually is. One thing about 7s is that if they're stupid they start to think they're 8s or higher just because they're hitted on by the same guys. You get a 9 and she is used to that kind of attention since her high school years, there's nothing new. You get a 7 and she will go crazy with all that unprecedent attention from high status men. Like someone said, no amount of game - specially when you live far - can compete with that. And that's exactly what happened: she was being fucked by a guy she never thought before could be interested in her and decided to get pregnant to keep him - an 8 or higher wouldn't do it because she knows deep inside that if the guy goes away she can easily replace him with someone of equal value.

I really believe Real game is relationship game, that's where you draw the line between the good ones and the pretenders. It is easy - to me it always was - to get a bang from a chick, but to keep her loyal to you while she is being hitted on by guys of equal or higher value, now we're talking about a challenge.

Post: #49

The writing was on the wall the entire time, OP just didn't want to see it. Be thankful the kid isn't yours and move on with your life.

Post: #50

I'd just like to add: don't be too hard on yourself, OP. It must have been miserable at the end, and to add insult to injury and pain that comes with the end of any long-term relationship, you also have to cope with that wrenching feeling that you were had.

It'll all fade in time, though.

If it's any comfort - pretty much all of us have been there, I think. Even the smartest people get fooled, and end up asking themselves "How could I have been so stupid?!"

But I don't think that you'll get anywhere obsessing about that. In the grand scheme of things, it sounds like it could've gone a lot worse. But it didn't. So it's fortunate that right now the only baggage that you're left to carry is how you want to play things going down the line. You could of course choose to become obsessional about the nature of the abuse (and it was indeed abuse) that you suffered, determined to do anything to ensure that it never happens again. A lot of people choose to do that - and there are a lot of unhappy people out there.

So be kind to yourself.

I like this entry myself:

http://www.rooshv.com/dont-shed-a-single...you-banged

I don't agree with everything in it...it's a little too cynical for my taste - I think it's definitely okay to shed at least a few tears. But when you're ready, you should go out and win again. Cuz living well is the only "revenge" that means a damn.

Play it right, and be honest with yourself about anything you also think needs to change about yourself, and I think you'll have a good shot at finding a girl who truly wants you to win.