Post: #401

If you think a trio of Tory boys will be good for an election there is a boat with holes in it I'd like to sell you. Half the country would not vote for them on principle.

https://news.sky.com/story/live-tory-spl...n-11236239

Post: #402

Rees-Mogg looks like a great candidate, not the globalist Boris is, family man with 6 kids. He's got more offsprings than all the other European leaders combined, lol...

Is the fact that he's a practicing Catholic an impediment to his chances of getting elected?

Post: #403

This is the guy who was throwing punches...

Forget the dad bod, feminists, I present to you the "Antifa frame".



It's all you're getting.

My pick for immigration minister:

Post: #404

Moggmentum:

Quote:Senior Government sources have revealed that ministers believe supporters of the popular backbench MP who has emerged as “the darling of the party” are manoeuvring to ensure he wins a possible leadership contest in the coming months even though he has strongly denied harbouring ambitions for the job.

The Daily Express has also learnt that Ukip members are being approached to join the Conservative Party by supporters of Mr Rees-Mogg in the hope it could ensure his victory.

A former Ukip parliamentary candidate said: “It is certainly an attractive idea. With the Tories in the state they are and only around 70,000 members we could help make sure Jacob wins and Britain has a real Brexit Prime Minister.”

The revelation has come as supporters of Boris Johnson and Michael Gove have let it be known that they want to strike a deal with Mr Rees-Mogg to join them in a “Brexit dream team” making him the new Chancellor.

[Express]

Post: #405

France to meddle in our elections:

Quote:Members of Parliament from French president Emmanuel Macron’s globalist-minded movement have helped set up a party in the United Kingdom aiming to stop Brexit.
‘Renew’ was set up with support and advice from “several” French elected representatives from Macron’s La République En Marche (LREM) and will be launched next week, according to French news service franceinfo whose reporter was present at a recent meeting.

Bearing the slogan, “People from outside politics to renew Britain’s hope”, the website lists three manifesto aims: “renew our economy”, “reduce inequality”, and “reverse Brexit” by fighting for a second referendum.

“We want to stop Brexit and believe a second referendum on the final deal negotiated with the EU is overwhelmingly in the interests of both Leave and Remain supporters,” the website states.

[Breitbart]

Party website: https://tinyurl.com/y8a7ovmh

Post: #406

Jacob Rees-Mogg may have been an excellent candidate for the Torys in the past but no way is he suitable in this day and age and coming off the back of the Brexit vote, the austerity and other shit these morons in power are blundering into every month it would spell almost certain defeat.

They would need a clean slate and that is impossible now. Labour has too much influence and power. It will only take a series of infighting among the Tories to show how weak they are and before you know it there is cross-party conspiracies flying around.

Post: #407

(02-04-2018 06:07 PM)911 Wrote:  Rees-Mogg looks like a great candidate, not the globalist Boris is, family man with 6 kids. He's got more offsprings than all the other European leaders combined, lol...

Is the fact that he's a practicing Catholic an impediment to his chances of getting elected?

It wouldn't really be the fact that he's Catholic (he completely respects the legitimacy of the Church of England, so it wouldn't turn away Protestants), more that he's just a religious, family-orientated man.

I love the UK but it is like the Titanic. And it's already steaming out of port, just waiting for its metaphorical iceberg to slam in to it.

In my opinion, nothing too major will happen for at least 5-10 years. France and Sweden are worse off than us but they're not in complete anarchy yet. Use the next 5 years or so to get ready to move at a moment's notice, most likely if Corbyn gets in to power.

Then wait another 10-15 years for the UKSR to implode, then move back in once it's all cleared up, hoping that the best of our countryside and heritage areas haven't been converted in to motorways or flat blocks.

Post: #408

4chan helped Trump win, now they are helping Mogg.



May doesn't have a chance.

Post: #409

I don't think the revelation about Corbyn being a paid asset of Soviet intelligence during the Cold War is going to change the opinion of voters on him, whether they like or hate him. His fans will either brush the accusations off as nonsense or simply not care, as they probably dream of being part of the Soviet Union themselves. To his haters it's simply the latest in a long line of enemies of this country (Hamas, the IRA) that he has broken bread with.

He is utterly unfit to lead a political party in this country, and was so before this story broke, but fuck all will be done about it.

Post: #410

^
Principles mean nothing when - 'the end justifies the means'.

Post: #411

(02-16-2018 05:42 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  I don't think the revelation about Corbyn being a paid asset of Soviet intelligence.

Seems the Czechs have lost a few files.

Post: #412

(02-16-2018 05:42 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  I don't think the revelation about Corbyn being a paid asset of Soviet intelligence during the Cold War is going to change the opinion of voters on him, whether they like or hate him. His fans will either brush the accusations off as nonsense or simply not care, as they probably dream of being part of the Soviet Union themselves. To his haters it's simply the latest in a long line of enemies of this country (Hamas, the IRA) that he has broken bread with.

He is utterly unfit to lead a political party in this country, and was so before this story broke, but fuck all will be done about it.

If any person of a working class, white background wants him in then they deserve everything they get. Labour is playing divide and conquer and it works. Meanwhile they use the resources of many through Momentum to get ahead and intimidate others, even their own.

I can understand middle and upper class whites wanting him in because they have a saviour complex towards poor brown folk and like to feel giving something back earns them a goody goody feeling. The consequences of socialism don't hit them quick enough or for long anyway unless they cannot get away.

He is merely the pendulum swing of what has happened these past years of Tory governing. The victim olympics is out for gold and they aren't taking austerity and "no more money left" as an answer.

Post: #413

(02-16-2018 05:42 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  I don't think the revelation about Corbyn being a paid asset of Soviet intelligence during the Cold War is going to change the opinion of voters on him, whether they like or hate him. His fans will either brush the accusations off as nonsense or simply not care, as they probably dream of being part of the Soviet Union themselves. To his haters it's simply the latest in a long line of enemies of this country (Hamas, the IRA) that he has broken bread with.

He is utterly unfit to lead a political party in this country, and was so before this story broke, but fuck all will be done about it.

Sounds like something out of the Muh Russia neocon playbook, do you have any proof of that?

Wasn't the Ulster crisis settled by negotiating with the IRA? Does that constitute "breaking bread"?

A question to you guys, is Corbyn worse than Milliband or Blair? Corb is a died in the wool Sosh, but he's uncucked on foreign policy (that's why he's been getting so much flak), he's a closet global warming denier, and he's probably more lukewarm about the EU than the globalist Blairites. Hardcore labor types are against open borders, because it harms the working class. Thoughts?

Post: #414

(02-16-2018 08:39 PM)911 Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:42 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  I don't think the revelation about Corbyn being a paid asset of Soviet intelligence during the Cold War is going to change the opinion of voters on him, whether they like or hate him. His fans will either brush the accusations off as nonsense or simply not care, as they probably dream of being part of the Soviet Union themselves. To his haters it's simply the latest in a long line of enemies of this country (Hamas, the IRA) that he has broken bread with.

He is utterly unfit to lead a political party in this country, and was so before this story broke, but fuck all will be done about it.

Sounds like something out of the Muh Russia neocon playbook, do you have any proof of that?

Wasn't the Ulster crisis settled by negotiating with the IRA? Does that constitute "breaking bread"?

A question to you guys, is Corbyn worse than Milliband or Blair? Corb is a died in the wool Sosh, but he's uncucked on foreign policy (that's why he's been getting so much flak), he's a closet global warming denier, and he's probably more lukewarm about the EU than the globalist Blairites. Hardcore labor types are against open borders, because it harms the working class. Thoughts?

Stop looking at who he is and start to see what he is.

Post: #415

(02-16-2018 08:39 PM)911 Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:42 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  I don't think the revelation about Corbyn being a paid asset of Soviet intelligence during the Cold War is going to change the opinion of voters on him, whether they like or hate him. His fans will either brush the accusations off as nonsense or simply not care, as they probably dream of being part of the Soviet Union themselves. To his haters it's simply the latest in a long line of enemies of this country (Hamas, the IRA) that he has broken bread with.

He is utterly unfit to lead a political party in this country, and was so before this story broke, but fuck all will be done about it.

Sounds like something out of the Muh Russia neocon playbook, do you have any proof of that?

Wasn't the Ulster crisis settled by negotiating with the IRA? Does that constitute "breaking bread"?

A question to you guys, is Corbyn worse than Milliband or Blair? Corb is a died in the wool Sosh, but he's uncucked on foreign policy (that's why he's been getting so much flak), he's a closet global warming denier, and he's probably more lukewarm about the EU than the globalist Blairites. Hardcore labor types are against open borders, because it harms the working class. Thoughts?

Hardcore Labour types in 2018 aren't against open borders. McDonnell is the only one who might be, but he'll keep his mouth shut about that because in our bizarre world saying that will get him less flak than praising the IRA, Hamas or Lenin.

Corbyn is only 'uncucked' on foreign policy because he's a closet anti-semite, much like the rest of his party. And because it wins him votes from a 'core demographic'.

He's not a global warming denier, in any shape or form. His brother is a global warming skeptic, but Corbyn will tread the globalist line on global warming.

He's better than Blair because the process that will lead to eventual anarchy in the UK will be sped up if he was in power. Men like Blair and Cameron just delay it.

Post: #416

Yep there were a lot of subversive influences during the 70s/80s in the U.K. Yet the left wing militants whine and complain when anyone ever accuses them of it. Knowing how the Stasi and KGB operated, is it really out of the question that they got to 'useful idiots' like Corbyn to work for them in the U.K.

As for what this will mean in the future election, nothing. Core demographics will continue to vote for him and the kids voting will just see this as a quirky character trait. Speak to any honest person who works in the British public sector and they will tell you that everything is falling part. The smart ones realise that budget cuts are merely a consequence of a massive rot which has stemmed from our culture and seeped into most aspects of British society.

On the international stage, we are cutting off all our links one by one. Trump put out his hand, yet our social justice warriors in government decided to ruin that. Same applies to Russia, the only one that we went for was China but that will be a dodgy relationship to say the least. Even France and Germany can see through their ideologies and form relationships on the basis of reality and what the future is going to be looking like.

Ultimately a significant part of the population wants this and the rest are too meek to establish any dominance over the situation.

The most pathetic thing about the whole situation. Is that big chunks of the East have been moving away from the same ideologies that the U.K is trying to bring back into action. It is like a train wreck in slow motion. I wouldn't mind but this is very recent history, just a decade or two before most millennials.

Post: #417

In the UKIP edition of Seeing You In Action Is A Joke:

Post: #418

Keep your hoes in line ^

Post: #419

Mr Cox probably isn't famous enough to go in the main harassment thread, but I'm sure British forum members will know who he is.

Post: #420

(02-17-2018 06:35 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  Yep there were a lot of subversive influences during the 70s/80s in the U.K. Yet the left wing militants whine and complain when anyone ever accuses them of it. Knowing how the Stasi and KGB operated, is it really out of the question that they got to 'useful idiots' like Corbyn to work for them in the U.K.

As for what this will mean in the future election, nothing. Core demographics will continue to vote for him and the kids voting will just see this as a quirky character trait. Speak to any honest person who works in the British public sector and they will tell you that everything is falling part. The smart ones realise that budget cuts are merely a consequence of a massive rot which has stemmed from our culture and seeped into most aspects of British society.

On the international stage, we are cutting off all our links one by one. Trump put out his hand, yet our social justice warriors in government decided to ruin that. Same applies to Russia, the only one that we went for was China but that will be a dodgy relationship to say the least. Even France and Germany can see through their ideologies and form relationships on the basis of reality and what the future is going to be looking like.

Ultimately a significant part of the population wants this and the rest are too meek to establish any dominance over the situation.

The most pathetic thing about the whole situation. Is that big chunks of the East have been moving away from the same ideologies that the U.K is trying to bring back into action. It is like a train wreck in slow motion. I wouldn't mind but this is very recent history, just a decade or two before most millennials.

Spot on. A train wreck in slow motion is the perfect way to describe it, and I'd rather someone just pressed fast forward and got it over with.

You're completely right about the sabotage from the left on all matters, as well. I don't know if it is just to try and undermine May because they believe it will get Corbyn in to power, or if they genuinely don't care about the future (i.e. good relationships with China, Africa and the US).

Are you out of the UK? Russia I'm guessing, from your flag. Great choice, it's a place I'm considering. As I've said before, all British citizens who don't want to live under Hammer and Sickle need to make contingency plans now.

Post: #421

Stasi files obtained by Guido reveal that a peace group run by Jeremy Corbyn was infiltrated by East German spies and was encouraged by East German officials into promoting GDR policies at Labour conference

[Gudio]

Post: #422

I find comedian Jonathan Pie to be a good measure of where the somewhat sane elements of the Left are these days in the UK.
I disagree with him on plenty of things but you can see his character has no time for the soft tyranny of the SJWs either and there are definitely times when he hits the nail on the head!
His take on Australia's immigration policy is what you would expect from a utopian minded Socialist, but it's pretty funny all the same!

Post: #423

This is a fascinating discussion.
It takes a little while to get going but after about ten minutes in, both speakers start making some really good points re mass immigration and it's impacts on Britain.
It's well worth listening to, some potential in this video too for getting some normies onside, as it talks about stuff that impacts on ordinary middle class Brits like whether they can afford to have kids and the prices of housing and accommodation being pushed up by the mass influxes coming into Britain, particularly since the mid nineties.

Post: #424

On the births topic, the birth rates are really small in London. And they will no doubt get smaller, which is the trend. I read an article the other day saying the average age of a first birth to a mother in one area of London is 37. Seems the average in London overall is 33-34.

From the linked data it seems that the highest birth rates are probably from UK-types, the working-class and 3rd-world immigrants. In the US the further left you go the further the birth-rate drops and the higher it goes to the right. Whatever happens the left is going to crumble and a lot of the genes and conditioning that create is (correlation between child's and parents politics is bout 0.75) are going to disappear. That is maybe the great irony of their movement. Also the various -isms like sexism that they are so fervent about are dramatically more prevalent in the 3rd world (see World Values Survey and ADL's antisemitism map); and it doesn't take much research to find out those ideas are more prevalent among such groups here. We're going through a leftist cycle now, which has never really happened before. That is one where the dominant force in society is grievance, over competence and dominance. Once that facade pops, what is left of the left will find all they've done is imported a far-right.

Post: #425

Quote: Gay sex should be part of the national curriculum, according to Jeremy Corbyn. The Labour Party leader backed the coverage of same-sex relationships in schools during an interview on Will Young’s Homo Sapiens podcast.
Currently sex education solely focuses on heterosexual couples practicing safe sex and healthy relationships. Teachers are not instructed to address the LGBTQ sexual experience.

During his appearance on the podcast, which was covered by the Gay Times, Corbyn asserted that he is fully behind a reform of the way sex, especially gay sex, is taught in schools. “Sex education should involve same-sex as well as heterosexual relationships – it’s about relationships.”

“Too much of it is not about relationships and understanding each other, having respect for each other and what is a genuine relationship and what’s an exploitative relationship; there’s a big difference. It’s giving young people the confidence to understand that a loving relationship is something to cherish and be proud of. An exploitative relationship is not.”

Host and former pop star Young said growing up gay is made harder by people ignoring it. “That’s very important and it makes me think of pornography. I think it’s so rife and people can get… people have phones when they’re younger now and whether you’re heterosexual or gay, bisexual, whatever – people will formulate their opinions on what a relationship is by watching pornography. People are ashamed to talk about sex. We’re so ashamed to talk about it. It’s about loving and being safe.”

Corbyn added: “And those who were frightened to admit their sexuality because of repression, and that goes back a long way more in history. Lord Byron spent a lot of time in Switzerland because there was no prosecutable law there like there was here at that time, like many others. I think we’ve got to learn from our history. I give Alan Turing as an example, I give Oscar Wilde – there’s a lot of others.”

The Labour leader’s support for the issue comes as politics is increasingly being played out in the classroom. Former Tory Education Minister Justine Greening backed plans for compulsory LGBTQ-inclusive sex and relationships education, however, she is no longer in charge. Her replacement, Damian Hinds, caused controversy earlier this week when he backed the suggestion parents could exclude their children from sex education classes.