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As a Jew, I'm not sure what to think of it. On one hand the facts he presents are true, on the other it seemingly would justify murder of Jews.

Take a look. Discuss.

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If you've seen one "rabbi in love with Hitler" story, you've seen them all...

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He is right in some things. The guy commenting on the end is not.


Remember the comment that I left on the TYT thread concerning Ana? Here:

Quote:(2) She is Armenian, and yet she... hosts The Young Turks channel. For those who do not know, that channel is named after an organization that is responsible for the genocide of million+ Armenians. By hosting a channel named after that organization, she is a self hating Armenian. And if you disrespect your own, you disrespect yourself as well. And if you do not respect yourself...you will not respect me, or the kids. That makes any LTR impossible. What is even worse...deep inside of her, she knows that! That is why she is swearing like a sailor all the time. It is hard to be a sellout.

/thread-60135...pid1469590



It is same with all those leftist Jews that were, and are active in various leftist movements (socialism, communism, feminism...).



Like in case of Ana, if you hate your own, like almost any leftist does (Jewish or non Jewish, irrelevant)...you will hate everyone else. He mentioned Trotski (who persecuted his own), as you can see. Now, look at guys such as Medea Benjamin, Noam Chomsky, Palpatine (you probably know about whom I am talking about, right?). Not only they hate their own people (Palpatine was a Kapo), and Israel - their national state (Benjamin was one of the leader of the Azza Flotilla in 2010) - they hate everyone else. Americans, Germans, Chinese, whites, blacks...everyone!. Again, if you hate your own (and yourself), you will hate everyone else.



Of course, the rabbi forgot to mention (or was it intentionally cut) that Jews also contributed a lot to their host countries (who designed the Atom bomb and most of IT, I wonder...).



And before someone says that the Jews behave the way they do because of Talmud, I would remind that all of those guys are atheists (Marx is their God), or Reform (heavily influenced by Marx)! This sentence alone nullifies your argument easily.


EDIT: Fixed the link!

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^Good comment, but link is not working.

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Roosh,
I meant nothing of the sort. I defer to you and the forum.
I posted the video in part because it was such a shock to the system--I've never heard anything of the sort from Jews themselves. Not from conservative ones in Texas, nor the liberal ones in DC, LA, NYC.

(01-14-2017 12:07 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  He is right in some things. The guy commenting on the end is not.

I couldn't find a video without commentary on youtube.

(01-14-2017 12:07 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  Of course, the rabbi forgot to mention (or was it intentionally cut) that Jews also contributed a lot to their host countries (who designed the Atom bomb and most of IT, I wonder...).

Probably because that is well known and has been covered elsewhere ad nauseam.

(01-14-2017 12:07 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  Like in case of Ana, if you hate your own, like almost any leftist does (Jewish or non Jewish, irrelevant)...you will hate everyone else. He mentioned Trotski (who persecuted his own), as you can see. Now, look at guys such as Medea Benjamin, Noam Chomsky, Palpatine (you probably know about whom I am talking about, right?). Not only they hate their own people (Palpatine was a Kapo), and Israel - their national state (Benjamin was one of the leader of the Azza Flotilla in 2010) - they hate everyone else. Americans, Germans, Chinese, whites, blacks...everyone!. Again, if you hate your own (and yourself), you will hate everyone else.

Is that it then? Liberal self hatred? Marxist corruption of human values?
I always thought Jewish self hatred was a unique trait, but this makes sense. Although I doubt there is a study detailing their political leanings.

(01-14-2017 12:07 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  And before someone says that the Jews behave the way they do because of Talmud, I would remind that all of those guys are atheists (Marx is their God), or Reform (heavily influenced by Marx)! This sentence alone nullifies your argument easily.

Would you expand on reform Judaism being affected by Marxism? To my shame I don't know much about the religion--I grew up in USSR where it was...discouraged, and only recently began learning about the subject. At this point I know more about Islam, for professional reasons.

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Reform, reconstructionist, and conservative all have a liberal leaning to them. I think they misinterept Tikun Ollam

Quote:Tikkun Olam. A jewish concept defined by acts of kindness performed to perfect or repair the world. The phrase is found in the Mishnah, a body of classical rabbinic teachings. It is often used when discussing issues of social policy, insuring a safeguard to those who may be at a disadvantage.

https://www.learningtogive.org/resources/tikkun-olam

Rather than just planting trees and giving charity this often mean supporting marxist causes. From what I read this is supposed to be done on a individual level rather than forcing the government to do it. Marx wasn't a religious Jew I don't think he was fond of the religion.

Quote:Tikkun olam (Hebrew: תיקון עולם‎ or תקון עולם'‎) (literally, "repair of the world", alternatively,"construction for eternity") is a concept in Judaism interpreted in Orthodox Judaism as the prospect of overcoming all forms of idolatry,[1] and by other Jewish denominations as an aspiration to behave and act constructively and beneficially.[2]
Documented use of the term dates back to the Mishnaic period. Since medieval times, kabbalistic literature has broadened use of the term. In the modern era, tikkun olam is the idea that Jews bear responsibility not only for their own moral, spiritual, and material welfare, but also for the welfare of society at large.[3] To the ears of contemporary pluralistic Rabbis, the term connotes "the establishment of Godly qualities throughout the world."[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikkun_olam
Granted I'm rather rusty on all of this. Hate going to shul, takes too long and the service is boring. Most of the prayers are how great Hashem is, yet the only lessons are in the Torah and Haftorah readings.

From the article, it looks like its anti-idolatry. So that should be against celebrities as well. I doubt anybody who interprets it that way would go into acting.

Quote:Translation: "to speedily see Your mighty splendor, to remove detestable (idolatry) from the land, and the (false) gods will be utterly 'cut off', to tahken olam in God's kingdom"

That's from the the Alenu prayer which is one of the most important prayers that basically says there is only one lord.

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Very interesting vid MOVSM.

When I "took the red pill" years ago, I did try to see how far down the rabbit hole I could go, and that took me to the forbidden, suppressed and hidden literature of revisionist history and conspiracy theory. Mein Kampf was one of the first books I read of the revisionist "anti-semitic" canon, and I still remember the shock I felt upon reading the first several chapters.

Being raised as an American, and having Grandparents and Uncles who fought in both the Pacific and European theaters in WWII, and attending public schools and Universities for my entire life, I was raised with the idea that Hitler was a vile madman, an unreasoning and delusional megalomaniac who hated all Jews simply because he was a hateful racist and white supremacist.

But reading the first few chapters of Mein Kampf did not jive at all with this caricatured and demonized historical picture we Americans are raised with.

I really don't know what to think about Hitler anymore. There is so many conflicting opinions and cases made for and against him, both pro-Zionist and anti-Zionist. About supposed bloodline ties to the Rothschild family (his maternal Grandmother supposedly was a maid in the Rothschild estate,) and his alluded to ties to Freemasonry that postulate he was always controlled opposition and a key player in the formation of the modern state of Israel and our New World Order.

"If you've seen one "rabbi in love with Hitler" story,"

This is not as crazy as it may appear, once you gain a better understanding of why an Orthodox Rabbi would make what appears to be a pro-Hitler argument here.

Ultra-Orthodox sects of Judaism are staunchly opposed to secular - atheist Jews assimilating to other countries, cultures and religions in the Diaspora. They want the Chosen to either make Aliyah to Israel, or to at least be Frum and follow all 613 Rabbinical laws recorded in the Talmud under local Rabbinical authority at the temples or synagogues, wherever they may be.

On the "Controlled opposition" side of the conspiracy theory equation, Hitler's "final solution" (I am as ambivalent and unsure of the Holocaust narrative as I am about Hitler himself - there is just too much conflicting literature that I've read regarding that topic as well...) was the perfect PsyOp to smoke out all of the assimilated Jews to either make them re-embrace Judaism and Rabbinical authority and make Aliyah to Zion, or to serve as a necessary blood-sacrifice that atones for turning their back on the Rabbi's and the Talmud, while giving the world the perfect excuse for the Zionist occupation of Palestine and the formation of the modern state of Israel.

On the "Hitler was legit" side of the equation, the Final Solution has given decades of justification for Zionism...aka "NEVER AGAIN."

But one thing we do know, controlled opposition or not, Hitler in the end led Germany into spectacular defeat and provided the worldwide justification for the State of Israel being formed by conquering and dispossessing the Palestinians from the lands they inhabited for generations.

Just as Barak Obama has been the greatest firearms salesman of the 21st century, so too is Adolph Hitler the greatest Zionist of the 20th century.

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Quote:Would you expand on reform Judaism being affected by Marxism? To my shame I don't know much about the religion--I grew up in USSR where it was...discouraged, and only recently began learning about the subject. At this point I know more about Islam, for professional reasons.

Like you, I grew up in similar society like yours (Yugoslavia). My father and grandfather (Jews) also said that there were treated like shit - the main reason being that Yugoslavia was close to various Arab states (Non Aligned movement).

Self hatred is not only Jewish trait. There is a segment of people who hate their own ethnicity and/race for various reasons. I mentioned Ana, and I will mention Merkel, the whole current Swedish government... . Self hatred is truly a mental disorder.

Now, considering the fact that Reform has female rabbis, (even gay rabbis I think) and constantly stirs trouble in Israel (see Women of the Wall)...I concluded that they are...''regressives''. Or Commies.




K Galt has also made an interesting observation about Hitler. If he never came to power, would it take longer for Israel to be established? Very likely. It certainly would exist in some capacity (Zionism existed way before Hitler, and it was gaining traction as well, especially in EE...), but in which one? Possibilities are limitless.

And also, I would inform K Galt that Jews have indeed claim to Israel. They originated there, after all (archeology proves that). That alone is reason enough. Religion is secondary. Also, the Israelis have siege mentality because they are surrounded by enemies, not because of Hitler and the Holocaust.




Oh, by the way, a lot of Arabs were forced out from their homes, but I would remind you that a lot of Jews from the Arab world (who never heard of Zionism before) were as well. I call it evens, and I hope that this topic does not become yet another Israel vs. Arabs topic. There are plenty of those on the Internet.

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I also think that Hitler was in fact controlled opposition, a tool, and "problem" in the problem reaction solution tactic. Rothschild connection is a possibility but I am not completely sure about it so I don't concern myself with it.

Have you watched greatest story never told perhaps?

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And also, I would inform K Galt that Jews have indeed claim to Israel. They originated there, after all (archeology proves that).

Believe me, I am well versed in all the Zionist/Anti-Zionist propaganda. I was actually very careful and deliberate in my last post in attempting to not really take a "side" here, just to post on the various perspectives regarding Hitler and the so-called "Jewish Question."

But the facts are the facts, the truth is the truth, and whether it was justified or not, whether or not Jews have prior claim or not, Palestinians lived in villages and towns prior to the establishment of the State of Israel, and many of them were killed or driven out, and those towns and villages razed, so the Zionists could build modern Israel.

It is no less accurate to describe the dispossession of Native American Indians or even my own Hawaiian ancestors dispossession of their ancestral lands. Right or wrong, it is what it is.

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(01-14-2017 04:55 PM)K Galt Wrote:  And also, I would inform K Galt that Jews have indeed claim to Israel. They originated there, after all (archeology proves that).

Believe me, I am well versed in all the Zionist/Anti-Zionist propaganda. I was actually very careful and deliberate in my last post in attempting to not really take a "side" here, just to post on the various perspectives regarding Hitler and the so-called "Jewish Question."

But the facts are the facts, the truth is the truth, and whether it was justified or not, whether or not Jews have prior claim or not, Palestinians lived in villages and towns prior to the establishment of the State of Israel, and many of them were killed or driven out, and those towns and villages razed, so the Zionists could build modern Israel.

It is no less accurate to describe the dispossession of Native American Indians or even my own Hawaiian ancestors dispossession of their ancestral lands. Right or wrong, it is what it is.

I never said (and I never will) that Arabs have no claim whatsoever. They do, just like the Jews.

That is the point I wanted to make...just like you, I believe!



As I have said, you made good points in both posts. All I wanted is to avoid the ''Chicken - Egg'' discussion. It will divide the forum, and I do not want that. After all, I prefer to discuss Game and lifestyle.

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(01-14-2017 04:44 PM)sterling_archer Wrote:  I also think that Hitler was in fact controlled opposition, a tool, and "problem" in the problem reaction solution tactic. Rothschild connection is a possibility but I am not completely sure about it so I don't concern myself with it.

Have you watched greatest story never told perhaps?

Nope, never seen it. I don't really watch youtube vids too much, my old lap top is a little slow and I can't stand the lags...but the title of this post was a good clickbait meme that got my curiosity piqued.

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What jarred me the most in the video, is Wagner's opposition to Jews who have converted from Judaism into Christianity. He didn't like Jews who practiced mitzvot, and he didn't like Jews who became Germans and Christians because he thought of them as traitors who will destroy Germany.

But what is a Jew to do then? If a Jew can't be Jew, and can't not be a Jew, what is left for him? Damned if you do, damned if you don't. The logical progression points toward the final solution. That is what I meant by justification of murder in original post. I doubt that will happen in America, but as far as Old World goes, genocide (attempted or successful) is not that uncommon there.

I don't know if the rabbi proposes a solution or not as the video cuts off. I really wish I had his entire speech.

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Jewish Rightist: 'Finish Hitler's Work, Kill Ashkenazi Jews'
Far-right extremist says 90 percent of the moderate left, 100 percent of far-left are Ashkenazim.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/jewish-right...s-1.231198

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(01-13-2017 07:26 PM)MOVSM Wrote:  As a Jew, I'm not sure what to think of it. On one hand the facts he presents are true, on the other it seemingly would justify murder of Jews.

Take a look. Discuss.

This isn't one of your Jewish tricks, is it?

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^^Yup.

MOVSM is acronym for M00ssad Visiting Staff Member.