Post: #1

While there hasn't been an good datasheet from Shanghai from my opinion, i give you my experience living in this city for a year.

The city itself: Beside it's a great city to make money , there are not that much things to do like example Bangkok or Tokyo during daytime. You can go to the bund, Nanjing road, some fake markets, yuyan garden. So that's it. If you're here for holiday and not for work , i would advice you to not stay longer than 8 or 9 days . The power from the city is it's amazing nightlife and culture. It's a really cheap city compared to Tokyo or Seoul, which is amazing. You only can withdrawal money with your visa cards from Bank of China or ICBC bank.

Food: The only thing i can say is avoid eating streetfood, it makes you ill. And avoid cheap noodles shop, get poisoned there a few times.

Nightlife:
The great thing about the nightlife in Shanghai is that you can do it completely free. If you know a promoter ( which is easy as a foreigner), you can enter for free and get free drinks. The downside of this is , it's china, it's fake alcohol.

Clubs to avoid: fusion, Bar rouge, Mint!!! ( Fusion is packed with 80 % foreigners and is a huge sausage fest, Mint and Bar rouge are Porsche clubs for business people, so it will be hard to pull unless you are a tall blonde guy)

Clubs/bars i recommend: lola, perry's. ( in lola i saw the best ratio's ever, perry's is like a dancing bar with a lot of college students)

Notice: an upcoming thread i saw is the many hookers in the nightlife in Shanghai, this really sucks. So beware of this, as prostitution is illegal in China.

The girls: i found chinese girls are really friendly and open to foreigners. Their rejection will be 10000 times sweeter than any western girl.
Chinese guys are also really friendly, not like cockblockers i've met in many other countries.
Chinese girls are much sweeter, more affectionate than any western girl and not that bitchy as korean girls can be. ( to foreigners at least , for chinese guys they require a house, a car,a lot of cash to marry her )
The most chinese girls i met spoke understandable english, not fluent but understandable.

Area to stay during your time in Shanghai: As Shanghai is such a huge city, i would recommend you to stay in the French concession/ jing an temple area where the nightlife is located.

My favorite place for daygame were the shopping malls around Xintiandi.


Notice: Due to the many foreigners here ( there are so many French , russian, germans , ..) the wow factor that you're a foreigner is gone. If you really want to be a god in China , i would recommend a second tier city such as Xi'an or Kunming, where you are really a superstar. Keep in mind, if you live in a 2nd tier city, what i did either for 2 months, it can be really isolating sometimes and these places are most of the times shitholes and the language barrier is immense.


I will hit East europe from next week on , so if you're in Ukraine or Poland or Lithuania please send me a pm, so we can go for a drink.













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Post: #2

Hey Spursfan, hows the nightlife Sunday thru Wednesday, and to compare it to Hong Kong? Im deciding between Tokyo,Osaka,Taipaei,Shanghai,Hong Kong, to visit end of May. Trying to figure out which has best nightlife in the beginning of the week. Thursday thru Saturday, Im guessing is good everywhere. Also, im in my late 30s....think Shanghai still would be a good choice?

Post: #3

What about day game - what kinds of things do girls like to bullshit about when you open them.

Post: #4

I lived in Shanghai a few times. Agree with xintiandi. Starbucks there has girls who will chat you up. Just got stand in front. Seriously.

I stayed at people's park first time. Second time e Nanjing road. Both are better for daytime connections by metro. Unless u live right next to club you'll be taking cheap taxi home anyway so it doesn't matter.

The main thing is to make sure the place u stay allows u to bring home guests. More importantly that you don't need to walk them last reception where they'll force them to show an ID. This scares Chinese girls from even wanting to go home with foreigners for ons.

Blue mountain hostel off e nanjing has private rooms where you can get from elevator to door without directly passing reception. 25/night. Had view of Suzhou creek. Also good excuse to bring dinner date up.

Banged lots of girls on badoo there. But lots of hookers are on it too. Particularly if u search people nearby the bund/e nanjing. But had some pure gold hits off it.

Most clubs have a foreigner table with vodka rum oj and coke. It's gross and gives u a hangover. My friend was a promoter so I'd get some drink tickets to use for beers. Only cost was a taxi.

The biggest drawback is smoke. Everyone is sitting there smoking. If an alien observer came into a Chinese nightclub they'd conclude the point was to lazily sit around and chain smoke.

I'd wear a n95 mask daytime to filter pollution. Not a stupid surgical mask that does nothing but an actual industrial 3m mask. Wore it maybe half the time. After a week I'd chuck it bc it turned black. Then I'd go spend hours in the smoky club and think really can't I wear my mask?

It's a small town in terms of nightlife. After a month or two almost every local girl seemed to know I had a bisexual Chinese gf and was trying to score threesomes lol.

But st the same time there's always fresh international meat. Plenty of air stewardesses and shit like that. The foreign girls are ignored by Chinese men and vice versa. They're usually not hot.

There are hot Slavic girls at the "models" table in most clubs. They'll ignore you like it's their job to not be there. When you get close they're not even that hot which is why they're working for minimum wage in Shanghai.

Pulling in Shanghai seemed to happen a lot from what I observed. Maybe more than any other city someone else was asking about.

Hong Kong is good if you stay in central. Otherwise getting a cab to Kowloon can be hard bc most don't want to cross the tunnel. And it's expensive as fuck. No white god factor either.

Tokyo and Osaka have good nightlife but ons from clubs seemed rare even for Japanese from what I observed. I had MUCH easier time at international parties but I think it mostly came down to language issues. 8+ usually speak no English.

I've done nightlife in chengdu and kunming since that was also mentioned. Less competition for sure. But girls will not feel comfortable with a foreigner who doesn't speak their language and customs. For instance i lost a 10 bc I didn't know how to play that dumb dice game despite her trying to show me. I didn't care and was just trying to kino for palm reading and thumb wrestling but I could tell it was not something she was used to experiencing. Maybe others have had better luck?

I've been told Lijiang Yunnan is ons capitol of china. I went there with my Beijing gf so idk if my limited experience counts. I kinda doubt the hype. It took me two nights to get the lay with a local there (after gf left). Supposedly summertime rich chicks fly in for weekend to sightsee old town and get banged.

Post: #5

Nightlife is actually kind of shit during weekdays. It picks up a bit on Thursday, but best days are obviously Friday and Saturday nights.

Would say it's not worth coming to if you want an active nightlife Mon-Thurs. Tonnes of young European guys in the nightlife scene to compete with so it won't be a cakewalk.

Post: #6

(01-13-2017 07:24 AM)burownidl Wrote:  Hey Spursfan, hows the nightlife Sunday thru Wednesday, and to compare it to Hong Kong? Im deciding between Tokyo,Osaka,Taipaei,Shanghai,Hong Kong, to visit end of May. Trying to figure out which has best nightlife in the beginning of the week. Thursday thru Saturday, Im guessing is good everywhere. Also, im in my late 30s....think Shanghai still would be a good choice?

Hi mate,

The nightlife from Wednesday till sunday is absolutly great, you can go out actually every night in Shanghai and it will be a blast( you have so many clubs and people there, students,..). I think the nightlife from Shanghai is better than hongkong and a lot cheaper, and Shanghai has less foreigners than hongkong, so shanghai is definatly better for nightlife than hongkong.

Tokyo is also good on the beginning of the week but logistics can kill you in tokyo. Shanghai is definatly a good choice , it won't be that good as a bangkok but better than all the cities that you listed over there ( for the easiness for banging girls). Taipai is also easy to hook up btw.. Japan is definatly harder than china for ONS, no doubt about that.

I think it would be no problem that you will be in your late 30's but i would say to the girls there that you're 30, it will decrease your chances if your say you're the end of the 30's. Chinese girls love older guys but it depends from the age from the girl ( if she is 25 , you better say your 30, if she's 32 , you can say that you're at your late 30's)

Post: #7

(01-13-2017 07:50 AM)Yeti Wrote:  What about day game - what kinds of things do girls like to bullshit about when you open them.

Hi mate,

I mostly play like "the lost foreigner" that is looking for a supermarket, a specific restaurant,.... I ask like example: do you know where is there any icbc bank here? I just arrived and i don't know my way yet.

Post: #8

(01-13-2017 12:36 PM)Travel Museums Wrote:  I lived in Shanghai a few times. Agree with xintiandi. Starbucks there has girls who will chat you up. Just got stand in front. Seriously.

I stayed at people's park first time. Second time e Nanjing road. Both are better for daytime connections by metro. Unless u live right next to club you'll be taking cheap taxi home anyway so it doesn't matter.

The main thing is to make sure the place u stay allows u to bring home guests. More importantly that you don't need to walk them last reception where they'll force them to show an ID. This scares Chinese girls from even wanting to go home with foreigners for ons.

Blue mountain hostel off e nanjing has private rooms where you can get from elevator to door without directly passing reception. 25/night. Had view of Suzhou creek. Also good excuse to bring dinner date up.

Banged lots of girls on badoo there. But lots of hookers are on it too. Particularly if u search people nearby the bund/e nanjing. But had some pure gold hits off it.

Most clubs have a foreigner table with vodka rum oj and coke. It's gross and gives u a hangover. My friend was a promoter so I'd get some drink tickets to use for beers. Only cost was a taxi.

The biggest drawback is smoke. Everyone is sitting there smoking. If an alien observer came into a Chinese nightclub they'd conclude the point was to lazily sit around and chain smoke.

I'd wear a n95 mask daytime to filter pollution. Not a stupid surgical mask that does nothing but an actual industrial 3m mask. Wore it maybe half the time. After a week I'd chuck it bc it turned black. Then I'd go spend hours in the smoky club and think really can't I wear my mask?

It's a small town in terms of nightlife. After a month or two almost every local girl seemed to know I had a bisexual Chinese gf and was trying to score threesomes lol.

But st the same time there's always fresh international meat. Plenty of air stewardesses and shit like that. The foreign girls are ignored by Chinese men and vice versa. They're usually not hot.

There are hot Slavic girls at the "models" table in most clubs. They'll ignore you like it's their job to not be there. When you get close they're not even that hot which is why they're working for minimum wage in Shanghai.

Pulling in Shanghai seemed to happen a lot from what I observed. Maybe more than any other city someone else was asking about.

Hong Kong is good if you stay in central. Otherwise getting a cab to Kowloon can be hard bc most don't want to cross the tunnel. And it's expensive as fuck. No white god factor either.

Tokyo and Osaka have good nightlife but ons from clubs seemed rare even for Japanese from what I observed. I had MUCH easier time at international parties but I think it mostly came down to language issues. 8+ usually speak no English.

I've done nightlife in chengdu and kunming since that was also mentioned. Less competition for sure. But girls will not feel comfortable with a foreigner who doesn't speak their language and customs. For instance i lost a 10 bc I didn't know how to play that dumb dice game despite her trying to show me. I didn't care and was just trying to kino for palm reading and thumb wrestling but I could tell it was not something she was used to experiencing. Maybe others have had better luck?

I've been told Lijiang Yunnan is ons capitol of china. I went there with my Beijing gf so idk if my limited experience counts. I kinda doubt the hype. It took me two nights to get the lay with a local there (after gf left). Supposedly summertime rich chicks fly in for weekend to sightsee old town and get banged.

Hii men,

Thanks for your response. Yes, nightlife in Shanghai is most of the time free for foreigners, but the alcohol is fake unfortunaly haha

Yes the smoke is so annoying and also the music can be so loud, that's something that is annoying to, i needed to wear some plugs in my ears at a moment

There are loads of clubs in Shanghai , so i wouldn't call it small in terms of nightlife. If you Always hang out in the same clubs, off course it will, i prefered for example more also more the chinese clubs like lynx ( near xintiandia), i avoided the foreigners clubs like fusion where it were the ratio's were terrible.

The quality in Shanghai is indeed not that good but it's easy. The slavic girls are difficult to bang, i tried with many ukrainan and russian dancers, they also ignored me most of the time. Had more sucess with mongolian and girls from kazachstan and other asian foreign girls.

I will check the lijiang nightlife out one day, i heard also great things about it Kunming is a great city, great weather whole year long, great nightlife, no pollution , only good chinese skills required, also it gets a bit boring after a while
Chinese and their card games, a story that will never end haha

I'm now back in Europe and I miss the vibrancy to be honest but i admire now that i get now at least paid on time and have some decent social Insurance


Cheers buddy

Post: #9

What salary would you think would be good for a single guy living in shanghai who likes to go out and live a great bachelor lifestyle and with some savings .

Post: #10

(01-13-2017 09:02 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  What salary would you think would be good for a single guy living in shanghai who likes to go out and live a great bachelor lifestyle and with some savings .

Hi men,

I think around 18 000 yuan net. A lot will depend on what you will spend on your food either and if you want to have your own apartment or consider living in a shared apartment. The real estate prices in Shanghai are raising every year, so that's a pity.