Post: #101

Ricky Vaughn is saying he has been hearing unconfirmed reports this guy is dead. Awaiting proof either way.

Post: #102

(02-02-2017 06:52 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  The fat retarded mayor overseeing the riots thinks free speech silences others...

That is some of the most insane lefty logic you'll ever read

It's quite simple, folks:

Any differing opinions or ideologies = 'hate speech'.
'Hate speech' results in abrogation of your right to free speech and the wanton use of violence.

This is brilliant on so many levels. The Marxist Left is pretty much digging its own political grave here. Events like this give President Trump license to employ appropriate measures as well as punish the leading instigators across the board. By the time his presidency ends Soros will be either dead or rotting in jail somewhere. You heard it here first.

Post: #103

(02-02-2017 09:56 AM)rotekz Wrote:  Ricky Vaughn is saying he has been hearing unconfirmed reports this guy is dead. Awaiting proof either way.

Now will people wake up.

This is war.

These people will find themselves getting to know rope and lampposts. That is the unavoidable outcome.

Post: #104

He survived.

Post: #105

This is happening in stages, and I've talked about this before in detail. The media and the left are working hand-in-hand to spread subversion and violence. It's impossible for them to deny it any more.

1. First came the campaign to de-legitimize the lawfully elected president. This game was egged on by some in our own government.
2. The media worked around the clock to whip up hysteria and convince people that the "right" was about to turn the country into a police state.
3. This non-stop, unrelenting incitement had the logical and expected consequences: the worst of the leftist dregs now feel like they can attack anyone physically with impunity.
4. The right will now have to form its own self-defense forces in response.

Anyone familiar with basic statecraft knows what comes next. I really believe that the President needs to make an example of some of these people to show that only the state has the power of violence. He needs to repress them with an iron hand, arrest their leaders for conspiracy, and restore order before things get past the point of no return. Threatening to "cut off funds" to some liberal cesspool is not a muscular enough response. The situation calls for far more decisive action that will, in the long run, save life and property.

Factionalism has now moved from civil discord to out-and-out street violence on an organized level. And the media just sits there and rationalizes it away.

The time for the president to act is now. Delays will only embolden the radicals and provocateurs.

Post: #106

I hope Trump arrests George Soros, perhaps a few months inside a cage will help him realise that he is not above the law

Post: #107

There also needs to be an investigation of the local politicians. The politicians of the Democrat controlled cities are ordering their police to stand down, essentially making violence legal at any protest. These criminals know this beforehand and know they can destroy property and assault people and get away with it. So, if you live in a Democrat controlled city, the police will not protect your right to free speech. The US Justice Department has ample authority to intervene to protect people's civil rights and there must be numerous laws being violated.

Post: #108

(02-02-2017 01:53 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  This is happening in stages, and I've talked about this before in detail. The media and the left are working hand-in-hand to spread subversion and violence. It's impossible for them to deny it any more.

1. First came the campaign to de-legitimize the lawfully elected president. This game was egged on by some in our own government.
2. The media worked around the clock to whip up hysteria and convince people that the "right" was about to turn the country into a police state.
3. This non-stop, unrelenting incitement had the logical and expected consequences: the worst of the leftist dregs now feel like they can attack anyone physically with impunity.
4. The right will now have to form its own self-defense forces in response.

Anyone familiar with basic statecraft knows what comes next. I really believe that the President needs to make an example of some of these people to show that only the state has the power of violence. He needs to repress them with an iron hand, arrest their leaders for conspiracy, and restore order before things get past the point of no return. Threatening to "cut off funds" to some liberal cesspool is not a muscular enough response. The situation calls for far more decisive action that will, in the long run, save life and property.

Factionalism has now moved from civil discord to out-and-out street violence on an organized level. And the media just sits there and rationalizes it away.

The time for the president to act is now. Delays will only embolden the radicals and provocateurs.

I agree with your diagnosis and the need for a strong, decisive intervention against these crazy Leftists, but I'd say, now is not quite the time to act, yet.

It'd be better to wait a few days more, wait (and this is unfortunate, yes) for the inevitable first casualties. Then swift and very energetic police and military intervention, will be seen as totally warranted, by the general public.

Let'em "anti-fa" give us a nice Casus Belli!

Post: #109

(02-02-2017 02:08 PM)Sherman Wrote:  The politicians of the Democrat controlled cities are ordering their police to stand down, essentially making violence legal at any protest.

You couldn't ask for a better enemy. The amount of dumb that these lefties have is too good to be true. It's a rough ride now - and that's because we're long way off the blacktop, we're on some dirt track, and the end of the road is near.

But when we reach that point, trust me, the bottled up resentment towards these condescending pricks will result in a maelstrom of agony. For them.

Post: #110

(02-02-2017 01:53 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  This is happening in stages, and I've talked about this before in detail. The media and the left are working hand-in-hand to spread subversion and violence. It's impossible for them to deny it any more.

1. First came the campaign to de-legitimize the lawfully elected president. This game was egged on by some in our own government.
2. The media worked around the clock to whip up hysteria and convince people that the "right" was about to turn the country into a police state.
3. This non-stop, unrelenting incitement had the logical and expected consequences: the worst of the leftist dregs now feel like they can attack anyone physically with impunity.
4. The right will now have to form its own self-defense forces in response.

Anyone familiar with basic statecraft knows what comes next. I really believe that the President needs to make an example of some of these people to show that only the state has the power of violence. He needs to repress them with an iron hand, arrest their leaders for conspiracy, and restore order before things get past the point of no return. Threatening to "cut off funds" to some liberal cesspool is not a muscular enough response. The situation calls for far more decisive action that will, in the long run, save life and property.

Factionalism has now moved from civil discord to out-and-out street violence on an organized level. And the media just sits there and rationalizes it away.

The time for the president to act is now. Delays will only embolden the radicals and provocateurs.

I hate to be the guy that always has to show similarities to Nazi Germany, but why did the SA get formed, because gangs of communists would violently assault conservatives and nationalists meeting in beer halls. Saalschutzabteilung (SA) literally means Hall Protection Department. Groups who fought the communists who came to disrupt their meetings, this was in the early 1920s btw, long before there was anything called a Nazi party.

Why does history keep repeating itself?

Because the players are the same.

Post: #111

(02-02-2017 03:41 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(02-02-2017 01:53 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  This is happening in stages, and I've talked about this before in detail. The media and the left are working hand-in-hand to spread subversion and violence. It's impossible for them to deny it any more.

1. First came the campaign to de-legitimize the lawfully elected president. This game was egged on by some in our own government.
2. The media worked around the clock to whip up hysteria and convince people that the "right" was about to turn the country into a police state.
3. This non-stop, unrelenting incitement had the logical and expected consequences: the worst of the leftist dregs now feel like they can attack anyone physically with impunity.
4. The right will now have to form its own self-defense forces in response.

Anyone familiar with basic statecraft knows what comes next. I really believe that the President needs to make an example of some of these people to show that only the state has the power of violence. He needs to repress them with an iron hand, arrest their leaders for conspiracy, and restore order before things get past the point of no return. Threatening to "cut off funds" to some liberal cesspool is not a muscular enough response. The situation calls for far more decisive action that will, in the long run, save life and property.

Factionalism has now moved from civil discord to out-and-out street violence on an organized level. And the media just sits there and rationalizes it away.

The time for the president to act is now. Delays will only embolden the radicals and provocateurs.

I hate to be the guy that always has to show similarities to Nazi Germany, but why did the SA get formed, because gangs of communists would violently assault conservatives and nationalists meeting in beer halls. Saalschutzabteilung (SA) literally means Hall Protection Department. Groups who fought the communists who came to disrupt their meetings, this was in the early 1920s btw, long before there was anything called a Nazi party.

Why does history keep repeating itself?

Because the players are the same.

I was thinking the same thing. Communists are dedicated to violence and do not believe in democracy. Make no mistake about it, these are communists who are perpetrating this violence.

Post: #112

I think it's possible we'd see some kind of resurgence of 1970s and early 1980s styles of left-wing violence that happened in Western Europe. It probably wouldn't be exactly the same, but the left is definitely becoming more and more violent and radicalized. The media is mostly to blame. Most of you guys aren't old enough to remember these names:

Baader-Meinhof
Red Brigades
Japanese Red Army
Weather Underground

These groups look like geeks now, but believe me, in their day, they caused a lot of harm. They all evolved from the 1960s foul harvest of counter-cultural excess, mass media culture, and other political and social ills. It has happened before and can happen again.

Today's radical SJW is tomorrow's terrorist or terror sympathizer. The media is going to regret having glorified and encouraged these people.

   
Baader-Meinhof members

   

It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that some of these radical groups in the US now are being funded--directly or indirectly--by enemies of the United States like ISIS, narcotrafficers, or even state actors like China or North Korea. It's possible.

Post: #113

(02-02-2017 04:11 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  I think it's possible we'd see some kind of resurgence of 1970s and early 1980s styles of left-wing violence that happened in Western Europe. It probably wouldn't be exactly the same, but the left is definitely becoming more and more violent and radicalized. The media is mostly to blame. Most of you guys aren't old enough to remember these names:

Baader-Meinhof
Red Brigades
Japanese Red Army
Weather Underground

These groups look like geeks now, but believe me, in their day, they caused a lot of harm. They all evolved from the 1960s foul harvest of counter-cultural excess, mass media culture, and other political and social ills. It has happened before and can happen again.

Today's radical SJW is tomorrow's terrorist or terror sympathizer. The media is going to regret having glorified and encouraged these people.

Agree with everything but that.

The media will come up with movies and documentaries after the fact that rationalize and justify their behavior. They'll reframe them as have good intentions even if their methods violent.

I remember back in the 80s there was a River Phoenix movie, Running on Empty, where he was the son of some former 60s radicals/SDS types who were fugitives from the law because they'd blown up a building as part of their anti-war protest. Turns out a janitor was in the building at the time and they ended up blinding and paralyzing him. In real life there was in an anti-war protest bombing like this in 1970 at the University of Wisconsin.

Anyway, if a conservative group did something like this they'd be vilified by the media, shown to be moral monsters. But of course the whole movie is a sympathetic portrayal of this poor family and how pitiful it is they have to live as fugitives and rely on their underground network of sympathizers, a bunch of former hippies. The feeling you're supposed to be left with is that they were young and idealistic, and sure they made a tragic mistake, but their heart was in the right place.

It'll be the same thing all over again, with the media focussing on their "youthful idealism".

Post: #114

(02-02-2017 01:53 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  This is happening in stages, and I've talked about this before in detail. The media and the left are working hand-in-hand to spread subversion and violence. It's impossible for them to deny it any more.

1. First came the campaign to de-legitimize the lawfully elected president. This game was egged on by some in our own government.
2. The media worked around the clock to whip up hysteria and convince people that the "right" was about to turn the country into a police state.
3. This non-stop, unrelenting incitement had the logical and expected consequences: the worst of the leftist dregs now feel like they can attack anyone physically with impunity.
4. The right will now have to form its own self-defense forces in response.

Anyone familiar with basic statecraft knows what comes next. I really believe that the President needs to make an example of some of these people to show that only the state has the power of violence. He needs to repress them with an iron hand, arrest their leaders for conspiracy, and restore order before things get past the point of no return. Threatening to "cut off funds" to some liberal cesspool is not a muscular enough response. The situation calls for far more decisive action that will, in the long run, save life and property.

Factionalism has now moved from civil discord to out-and-out street violence on an organized level. And the media just sits there and rationalizes it away.

The time for the president to act is now. Delays will only embolden the radicals and provocateurs.

I agree, last summer when the president was running for election i saw this stuff and TV and was perturbed but didn't put much credence to it. I thought it would end with the election.

It hasn't, and it could be argued that is might be getting worse. Given the reactions I'm reading and watching today. The air of conflict is different. You can almost smell it now, like that metallic tinge of anger palpable before a victim punches a bully back.

If there is no intervention before summer, its going to warrant a civil emergency when black lives matter re-activates after the summer's first police shooting on top of this anti-fa/trump stuff. The keg will then explode after the first recorded mob fatality on a trump supporter/bystander.

Post: #115

NBC nightly news just aired their segment about this and not a single mention of the assaults on innocent bystanders or the police standing by and doing nothing. No mention of rioting, though they did compare it to the civil rights speech talking point and had a student republican say free speech is over, not much else. I'd say they spun it pretty neutral to favorable to the antifa scum. I expected nothing less. And after they immediately jumped to the prison takeover story with a soundbite of one of the hostage takers rambling about Trump.

I just don't understand how a mayor or whatever local official can tell police to "stand down" and suddenly the police have no obligation to stop rioting and vicious assault and attempted murder on innocent bystanders. I mean, what are they going to do if the entire police force says "fuck you we're going to do our jobs"? How can the police just allow crimes to happen in front of them? Because some fucking mayor bitch said so? I don't know, I'm not really buying it, especially given how gung ho they tend to be about enforcing laws even while off duty.

Seeing that girl get maced just after turning around with no opportunity to defend herself and that guy being wailed on while face down unconscious in the street made my blood fucking boil. Antifa is subhuman scum, their dishonorable cowardly tactics are rage inducing; I might loathe them more than any other group or people. God I hope Sessions brings unholy hell upon this fucking pieces of garbage when he gets in there. I'm tired being attacked all while I reassure myself that being pacifist pussys is good because surely the masses will see this and realize how insane the left and their many ilk are, and how finally, this time, they will wake up and we'll be vindicated at last. They are going to kill someone and soon, it almost happened with that unconscious dude and could happen anytime they swing those blunt weapon "flag poles" and connect with someone's head.

Post: #116

This is why Sessions appointment is so crucial. He needs to hire literally HUNDREDS of DOJ lawyers to prosecute 100's if not 1000's of simultaneous causes against multiple states and cities. The Obama DOJ made a precedent of going after police forces that they deemed unaccecptable. Now it is Trump's turn to lean the full power of the Federal government against these corrupt police brass that stand idly by while citizens get beaten to a pulp. If you aren't there to PROTECT AND SERVE, then YOU SHOULD GO TO JAIL. Gross dereliction of duty, and tacit consent to the rioting mob!

Post: #117

(02-02-2017 01:53 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  This is happening in stages, and I've talked about this before in detail. The media and the left are working hand-in-hand to spread subversion and violence. It's impossible for them to deny it any more.

1. First came the campaign to de-legitimize the lawfully elected president. This game was egged on by some in our own government.
2. The media worked around the clock to whip up hysteria and convince people that the "right" was about to turn the country into a police state.
3. This non-stop, unrelenting incitement had the logical and expected consequences: the worst of the leftist dregs now feel like they can attack anyone physically with impunity.
4. The right will now have to form its own self-defense forces in response.

Anyone familiar with basic statecraft knows what comes next. I really believe that the President needs to make an example of some of these people to show that only the state has the power of violence. He needs to repress them with an iron hand, arrest their leaders for conspiracy, and restore order before things get past the point of no return. Threatening to "cut off funds" to some liberal cesspool is not a muscular enough response. The situation calls for far more decisive action that will, in the long run, save life and property.

Factionalism has now moved from civil discord to out-and-out street violence on an organized level. And the media just sits there and rationalizes it away.

The time for the president to act is now. Delays will only embolden the radicals and provocateurs.

Excellent points. I'm sick and tired of reading stories about leftist "protesters" (animals) burning things, destroying property, attacking Trump supporters and silencing us on the right without consequence. They're pawns of the elites, promoted by the old disgusting filth lying media and unless we remove this tumor from society its only going to grow and spread, like a cancer.

These limp wristed faggots have no idea what they're starting. If they're going to make this culture war a physical one, the right is eventually going to strike back and it won't be pretty for them.

Post: #118

Dealing with this unrest is not quite as simple as going in with riot police or the National Guard. Trump is going to have to play -- if he isn't already playing -- 4D chess on this.

Given the way the MSM is behaving with respect to (non) reports of the violence, what do you think its response will be when Trump does instruct Federal authorities (since that's the only people he can ultimately instruct) to intervene, prosecute, or line up on barricades?

It will do as it has been doing: it will minimise the violence (the headline will be "armed Federal police break up peaceful protest with mace, batons" or similar) and it will be used as a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy by the Left: "See? We told you he was going to turn the joint into a police state!" The MSM is waiting for one iconic photograph or file tape to wave around as the motto of resistance, similar to the one of the bitch threading daisies into guns back in the sixties or the guy standing in front of a tank column at Tiannenmen Square. They tried it with pussyhats (see Time magazine) but Scott Adams already broke down why pink sucks as a persuasive colour, not to mention the thing is already being mocked and memed to death.

I can't see Trump allowing this. AB already noted his wariness that Trump doesn't seem to want to protect his supporters, which might be the case, but I also think the following:

(1) Trump is trying to govern for all America. He has to portray (reveal) the Left as the radical Left, something that is a lot harder when he's got police or the military in the streets. All the work he's doing can still be undone on a rout on the midterms in two years' time. Therefore he cannot be obviously partisan.

(2) Trump is viewing these riots in a transactional way, just as he's currently viewing alliances transactionally and asking coldly exactly what the benefit is of certain alliances across the world. In the case of the riots, he's asking himself: where are they happening and who is suffering the most property damage? My guess would be that it's mostly Democrat allies or opponents of his that are taking the heaviest hits: Berkeley is not a Federal body. The idiots burned up a Starbucks. They also attacked the Bank of America. The money comes out of Democrat pockets to pay for this shit. I grant you the physical violence against people is a really bad problem, but Trump is coolly asking himself: what are the benefits and losses to my Presidency by intervening with a heavy hand, considering I may well have control of the DOJ shortly and which can investigate and prosecute people for their crimes well after the riots are over and done? Why should I risk Federal troops to step in when it's (a) a State issue and (b) the states are the ones cutting off their noses to spite their faces by refusing to intervene?

Horrible as it sounds, Trump actually makes his point in a much clearer way by refusing to send in the troops at this stage. He fucks with the leftie script that he's looking to create a police state, and he allows local discontent with local politicians to rise, and by extension he slings mud at the Democrats since every beating or (god forbid) death can be sheeted back home to the DNC, since they're supporting this shit.

Me, I'm more in favour of prosecution and if need be the midnight knock when it comes to dealing with revolutionary scum. The intelligence apparatus is all pretty much there now to act in that direction. It's unexpected and it deprives the antifas of their only source of courage: numbers.

EDIT: I do find one thing heartening, though: Comrade Silverman's screeching that all they need is the military on side. This establishes to me that the left knows full well it hasn't got the capacity to win in a straight fight against the government, it has to co-opt the armed forces instead. All of this is basically more autistic screeching, and the best way Trump can kill it is to do as he's threatened: cut off its funding.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #119

ANNIE MCCLANAHAN, assistant professor of English at UC Irvine went on a facebook rant to support the violence at Berkeley:

Post: #120

http://theralphretort.com/thats-how-its-...nt-202017/

Post: #121

Rather prophetic:

Post: #122

(02-02-2017 08:03 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  Given the way the MSM is behaving with respect to (non) reports of the violence, what do you think its response will be when Trump does instruct Federal authorities (since that's the only people he can ultimately instruct) to intervene, prosecute, or line up on barricades?

It will do as it has been doing: it will minimise the violence (the headline will be "armed Federal police break up peaceful protest with mace, batons" or similar) and it will be used as a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy by the Left: "See? We told you he was going to turn the joint into a police state!" The MSM is waiting for one iconic photograph or file tape to wave around as the motto of resistance, similar to the one of the bitch threading daisies into guns back in the sixties or the guy standing in front of a tank column at Tiannenmen Square. They tried it with pussyhats (see Time magazine) but Scott Adams already broke down why pink sucks as a persuasive colour, not to mention the thing is already being mocked and memed to death.

Nobody cares about MSM that much anymore. Even old people know internet. You might have big presence of MSM online, but you will never silence that "one voice", be it on Facebook comment or wherever. The time of one way street agendas is long gone.

Left going "we told you so" doesn't work. Nobody cares if they go "we told you so". They can stage the iconic photos all they want, run some Fascists Drumpf piece about how he's a savage who ordered beatings of innocent students, it will take approx. 10 seconds for that lie to blow up.

Roosh said it well in his latest video. The left is done, they have nowhere left to hide. Antifa is literally their last resort. Soros can maybe decide to bankroll 365 days of protests...but think about it. Think about how feasible that is.

The jig is up. Yes there's turbulence now, yes people will get beaten, but it's over for them. No tactics left. Hollywood lost the pull, media lost the pull, it's just dead, the lefty aparatus is dead, like everything on this Earth, it has to die sometime. This is that "sometime". They're calling people nazis now, it's over, they're completely lost. The one possible option they have left now are actual weapons. But we know how that movie ends so...yeah.

Post: #123

   

So, by her logic, are we allowed to violently keep immigrants out of our communities, if playing the long game and going through various institutions doesn't work?

Inquiring minds in Paris and Berlin want to know.

G

Post: #124

Quote:But that's bullshit, because when someone is outing students, putting up their pictures and their names up and attempting to humiliate and harass them, that's not just a spectacle, that's an act of violence...

Anyone know what she's referring to there?

Post: #125

^

These little flowers of beautiful youth and all their 'fuck you' and 'shut it the fuck down'. They're gonna get their mouths washed with soap, if lucky, otherwise detergent.