Post: #76

(12-28-2016 04:08 PM)StackGsMan Wrote:  At what point in the night do you go for the pull, as in when do you say we should head out to her place or yours? I ask because you mentioned keeping the party going, and that seems to mean that you wait until the club/bar closes to head to the sex location.

Hmmm. Kind of have to play that by ear. But usually no earlier than 1am (in Edmonton, last call is 2am, bars shut doors down at 3am). Most of the time girls want to keep the partying going and see if there is any better dick available between 10pm - 1am. By 1 - 1:30am, the reality of things are starting to creep in for the girls' and they have to figure out if they are going to go stuff their face with mcdonald's with their friends and not go home with any guys, or if they are going to get their pussy pounded.

Girls actually have no issue going home "empty-handed." They have given their phone numbers out to a ton of guys and the validation stream begins almost instantly with some of the numbers. Also, around the end of the night, the girls heart may begin weeping for the alpha guy she has a crush on that won't text her back. This can either put her into an anti-social depressive state, or it can put her into a cock-hungry slutty state. It's a dice-toss with that one.
Also, around 2am, this is when "non-game" guys start approaching girls en masse. They realized that standing in the corner all night clothing a beer to their chest hasn't been fruitful for them, and they make some approaches out of sheer desperation. This turns girls off and massively inflates their egos high into the stratosphere. You better have your girl hooked by this point or else you're gonna have a tough time.

Post: #77

(12-28-2016 04:41 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  Whats the lover-provider matrix? If you wouldn't mind elaborating.

Brother it might be easier for you to do a google search on it. A good query would be "pua lover provider"
It's an essential cornerstone of understanding game. Please keep in mind that it is a simplified model of course.

Don't start being like: "I can't drive this girl over to my place to bang, driving her means I'm being a provider! This bitch has to take an Uber behind me and pay for it!"
Realize the subtle nuisances and try your best to avoid coming across as a provider.

Post: #78

A lot of people complain about early closing hours in Canada and California for example, but it creates good opportunities for 'after parties' instead of having to wait until 4 or 5 in the morning in a busy club.

Post: #79

(12-29-2016 05:01 AM)Lime Wrote:  A lot of people complain about early closing hours in Canada and California for example, but it creates good opportunities for 'after parties' instead of having to wait until 4 or 5 in the morning in a busy club.

Wholeheartedly agree. Plus, I want to try my best to maintain somewhat of a semblance of a healthy sleep schedule. Pulling by 1:30am means I may have the pleasure of actually falling asleep by 2:30am-3:00am. I'm the type of person that will fight to the bitter end. So I will stay until 3am if I don't have a girl yet and I'll keep trying till the place is literally shut down and the bouncers are asking people to get the fuck out so they can clock out of their shift and go home. Then I will try on the street as girls flock their ways out of the bar. Then I will finally give up and go home by 3:30am when the streets are empty if I don't pull by then.

And also, "afterparty" seems to be an accepted, unwritten synonym for "go back to my place and fuck" which is great.

Post: #80

(12-26-2016 10:39 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 12:30 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Yes. In White nations especially, because these people are taller on average. I'm only 5'8'' and it works against me sometimes as well.

Roissy's dating test for men is by far the most accurate assessment on these matters. Being 5'6'' is basically a -2 out of 27 points. I only lose -1.

However, there's no point in getting too hung up about things you cannot control. You'll never be Tom Brady super alpha. So what? You can still get laid with lots of cute girls, which is all that matters in the long run. Think of how most guys go with nothing, and then you'll realize you actually have it very good.

Unfortunately for me, I take a liking to white girls. Girls of other races are rarely attractive to me. I especially like nordic / scandinavian white girls with blue eyes and blonde hair, and they tend to also be the tallest.

I remember seeing that post in the chateau heartiste website.
One theory I have regarding height is it's -1 to some girls, -2 to others, and -100000 to others. Depends on the girl I suppose.
I guess the reason why I'm asking is I have height increasing insoles but I never wear them. They hurt my feet, make me walk awkwardly, and I simply don't feel comfortable in them. comfortable in both a physical sense and psychological sense. Wearing them makes me feel VERY uncomfortable with myself.
I want to know if I should push past that and wear them anyways. It's been established that being taller would add "points" to me and make girls more receptive to me. But just how much so would an extra 1.5" do for me?
And I understand the feel-good hippy aspect of "don't worry about your height man! Just be yourself and love yourself for who you are man! girls only care about personality anyways man!" - like I get that argument and I hear it all the time. But I just want the raw truth.

I wouldn't wear the insoles. I've bought a pair of insoles to raise my height a couple of inches from 5'8, and I had the same problem: I couldn't wear them without feeling psychologically uncomfortable.

I've come to the realization that it's better to be realistic and confident about the situation. It's no news to you that your height will hurt you a *little*, but what would infinitely hurt you more would be to let yourself get down over it. On the plus side, if you're confident in your own skin in general it will shine through and girls will pick up on it--it's enough ++'s that you'll have girls overlooking taller good looking dudes because of you.

I used to be very insecure about my height. I even started a thread that could have got me banned for what looked like height trolling back in the day. But now, I've had enough experiences that I've overcome it. One example that helps that you've come across is sleeping with a girl taller than you. Gather enough of these and you turn an insecurity into an recognized weakness that is perceived as minor.

It's not just about banging taller girls either. Here's a case in point. One time, I was in my favorite club back when I was doing night game every single week. As I was going down the stairs in between floors, a blonde girl coming up alone caught my attention. Started a conversation with her that got physical quickly because of the narrow stairwell.

Long story short, she was split up from her friend in the big crowded club which helped me hook her. I only found out her height after moving away from the stairs... Since I approached her coming down, I didn't realize her height until we were on the same level. I figured she was tall, but not around 6'4 with her heels. She was at least 6'0 without them.

Alcohol helped me escalate quickly, and we were making out in no time. It was very awkward. The only way I could kiss her was if she was two steps down on a stairwell or if she was seated on a barstool with me standing up. I eventually led her to the dance floor, which was when I noticed everybody had their eyes on the two of us. It was then I realized how out of the ordinary the situation was. A short guy leading a girl at least 6'3 in height by the hand around the club. Dancing with her didn't last long because grinding was impossible.

Never reached anything beyond that point with her but that experience along with a few other notables ones have cemented in my mind that while height matters to an extent, what matters most is how much of a barrier it is in your mind.

Post: #81

Thanks for posting your experience. It's always nice hearing from other players that are on the shorter side of the spectrum.
I really feel it is a disadvantage that taller guys have zero idea about.

I try as much as I can to "own up" to the fact that I'm shorter and realize that, yes, it is a disadvantage but it's not a death curse. Nevertheless, I still feel thang pang of anxiety in me when I see a beautiful girl that is much taller than me. That feeling that "I'm not good enough" or "she is above me" starts setting in reflexively. I hate it.

Post: #82

Yeah it's a mental thing. It's never going to completely go away. We're not infallible as human beings... We'll always have some shortcomings.

On the brightside you have 100 lays. Doesn't the average guy sleep with <5 girls in his lifetime? Nothing to worry about.

Post: #83

I'm feeling a bit like damaged goods. Guys hate on girls for having too many notches but idk if it really improves a guy to bang a lot of girls.

Post: #84

@satoshi

What do you mean by damaged goods? As my count went up I felt less mystique around the feminine but I appreciate the rare keeper girls. With a low count I believed naively even mediocre girls were terribly lovely.

Which is interesting because now when I fall hard for a girl (much rarer) I almost pedastilize them just as much as the average ones when I was blue.

Post: #85

(01-03-2017 11:42 PM)RustyShackleford Wrote:  @satoshi

What do you mean by damaged goods? As my count went up I felt less mystique around the feminine but I appreciate the rare keeper girls. With a low count I believed naively even mediocre girls were terribly lovely.

Which is interesting because now when I fall hard for a girl (much rarer) I almost pedastilize them just as much as the average ones when I was blue.

Before I could see a girl for months and keep banging her several times every time I saw her. These days a girl will bore me quickly. Even if she's nice to be around, after banging her a few times I lose my sexual interest in her. I don't see how I ever can start a family and live with just one girl, banging her year in and out. She have to be really good, and I don't think such girl exists.

Post: #86

(01-04-2017 10:31 AM)Satoshi Wrote:  Before I could see a girl for months and keep banging her several times every time I saw her. These days a girl will bore me quickly. Even if she's nice to be around, after banging her a few times I lose my sexual interest in her. I don't see how I ever can start a family and live with just one girl, banging her year in and out. She have to be really good, and I don't think such girl exists.

I'm 39 now and I am pretty sure this is true for me. There is not one girl on this earth who can keep my interested sexually. I have tried two different long relationships (5 years and 6 years) and both resulted in me being bored sexually within the first six months. I thought it would go away, I thought I would grow out of it...but I can't. It's just not how I'm made up. It sound stupid but I know now that God put me on earth to fuck every female that I can. No more long relationships for me. Some guys can do it (Hell, my brother has been married for 14 years), but I'm not wired that way.

And to the OP...grats on the 100 notches. Quite a milestone. I hope to hit 40 this year and obviously 100 is a ways away but I'm going to be striving for that number. Good work.

Post: #87

You lost your sexual interest after 6 months both stayed for 5 years?

Post: #88

Satoshi I understand the feeling that you lose interest but there's lots of evidence to suggest that you could find a girl u love, get a family and have 3somes or fuck on the side or something.

To lose hope because of a natural biological imperative that you can't find a girl down for 3somes or u can't have a family seems silly.

Even if u love a girl and would never leave her, taking business trips to fuck girls every few months wouldn't be awful would it? Monogamy isn't terribly natural but there's tons of situations where you can make it work.

Just because you don't want a white picket fence suburbia dream doesn't mean you just cash out and fuck off. There's 1000 ways to happiness

Post: #89

(01-04-2017 11:55 AM)graffix13 Wrote:  And to the OP...grats on the 100 notches. Quite a milestone. I hope to hit 40 this year and obviously 100 is a ways away but I'm going to be striving for that number. Good work.

Cheers brother.

Post: #90

And to you guys, I agree. I find myself getting bored as well.
BUT, I have never been in a relationship with a girl I consider to be a "10"
I'm thinking if I have a girl that is drop dead gorgeous, I'd probably want to stick around for good. But there is no way for me to say until it happens and I go through that.

Very good chance I would eventually be bored with a "10" as well and will be destined to the purgatory of always chasing for something to give me fulfilment.

Post: #91

(01-04-2017 06:51 PM)Satoshi Wrote:  You lost your sexual interest after 6 months both stayed for 5 years?

Yes, she ended up preggo after 6 months. I thought I would do the right thing and stick around for our child. And even though the sex was terrible/non-existant, I'm glad I did. No regrets.

Post: #92

(12-21-2016 05:21 AM)The_e_man Wrote:  

(12-21-2016 01:35 AM)Monxp Wrote:  Cool. Now that you have 100 lays, are you planning to focus more on other things or are you still going to game hard? Excluding looks, what would be your number one advice to give? Worst and best lay?

Still gaming hard brother. Feel like I have a long way to go. I broke 100 lays but I'm still pretty terrible at being able to maintain a relationship with a high quality (8 and up) girl.

Number one advice is don't give up. Keep grinding and fight through all the bullshit. Nothing can break you and you are not going to give up. There is a light at the end of the tunnel. Looking back in the past, I can remember many times when I needed to be told that. Lots of times I just wanted to give up. Especially when seeing my better looking friends having girls I could only dream of handed to them on a silver platter.

Best lays would be the most attractive girls I have been with. There's something about having sex with a girl that I find to be a "10" that is just so soothing to my soul. Sex is otherwise just enhanced masturbation, but with the top tier girls - it's something magical beyond sex.
Worst lay: oh god. So this was back in summer of 2014. I put an ad up on Craigslist because I remember seeing a thread on this site about Craigslist game. Nothing but fatties. I was desperate and horny. So I went to this chicks apartment and she was absolutely disgusting. Unattractive and incredibly fat. Still have no idea why I even went through with it. I stopped half way through. I still get shivers down my spine when I think about it.

LOLOL, how the hell did you get a boner if the woman was that ghastly?! I always hear about this stuff. If I'm not attracted to the girl, then I'm experiencing zero movement in the dong, period. Anyway, digging this thread.

Post: #93

(02-04-2017 03:59 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  LOLOL, how the hell did you get a boner if the woman was that ghastly?! I always hear about this stuff. If I'm not attracted to the girl, then I'm experiencing zero movement in the dong, period. Anyway, digging this thread.

Haha. Honestly man it ties down to me having issues with my self-esteem / ego at the time. My girlfriend that I was pretty crazy about broke up with me and I tried fucking as many girls as possible to get over her. Hint: fucking a girl UGLIER than your ex will only make the feeling worse. Hindsight is definitely 20/20 on that one. Regarding me getting a boner, it was all through forceful imagination.

I'm in a much healthier mental headspace now and I respect myself way too much to ever pork a fattie or a girl I'm not attracted to.

Post: #94

Great series of posts, thanks for sharing, The_e_man.

Post: #95

Cheers brother

Post: #96

Great thread.

The_e_man, how often do you bring a girl home compared to when you first started going out? 1 in 3 nights out? 1 in 5?

On average, how many girls would you need to approach before finding one to take home?

How do you spot the DTF girls?

Post: #97

I don't understand how people keep track. When i was 20/21 years old i lost track near 40 notches. Did you keep a journal, list or like pile of panties? If not i don't understand how you keep track of 100 people. I've also never understood the importance of keeping track. Was it like a race or quota? Personal goal?

Post: #98

Great thread, thanks for the insight.

I am nowhere near 100, but the picture keeps forming as I head down this path.

I reached notch 8 not too long ago. Christian girl, went to church every Sunday and Wednesday, read the Bible regularly, etc. Former fat girl, was looking good, 6/10 and determined to keep improving.

I approached her a little more cautiously than I would with other girls since she seemed devoutly religious. We went on 3 dates, kissed on the 2nd.....and got the bang after the third! The third! And that was with me approaching her cautiously! It could've been after the 2nd date easily.

Now although I thought this girl was a pretty good deal, I never really felt much with her, so the bang reflected that. Obviously she lay there and didn't do anything, but my performance wasn't great either. Well guess what, she stops talking to me after the bang. I didn't mind at all, but man did that blow my mind and dishearten me. Why? Because it demonstrated that wife material is impossible to find in the Western world. It doesn't matter if it's an atheist slut or a seemingly "good" Christian girl - use game, even if it's half-assed and slapped together with nothing behind it, and you can get the bang by the third date easy.

Not only that, but it's so normalized for women to judge a man by his sexual performance. Out of my 8 notches there was 1 other girl that I didn't supply good D to. She ghosted as well, but she was a high body count whore, so I figured she was more superficial in that sense. No, all girls are like that! This Christian girl could've stopped talking to me plenty of times before the bang with my sparse texting back. I've had multiple girls get tired of it within the first week or even few days and straight up tell me they want a guy that gives them more attention. This girl only ghosted after the bang. With women having such easy access to divorce nowadays, I guarantee you this is a huge cause of it.

If I went through 100 lays like you The_e_man, I would probably be severely depressed after all was said and done.

Post: #99

(04-15-2017 02:03 AM)Jameson Ranger Wrote:  I don't understand how people keep track. When i was 20/21 years old i lost track near 40 notches. Did you keep a journal, list or like pile of panties? If not i don't understand how you keep track of 100 people. I've also never understood the importance of keeping track. Was it like a race or quota? Personal goal?

I made almost word for word the same post a while back. I don't get it either.

Post: #100

I kept a spreadsheet that I filled out from memory one day then kept updating it every so often. I stopped when it got into the low 100's

Many of the names are just descriptions like; chick with super bush from Charlie's Bar or blonde bish with the blue Toyota from POF.

I initially kept count because me and my best friend from high school had a running competition. I just got used to doing it.