Post: #26

(12-23-2016 10:39 PM)Slam Wrote:  Speaking as someone who has been to Chile, I have no intention of returning. Simon Black pushes the Chile button so hard, but guess what you never hear him talk about? THE WOMEN.

Chilean women are near the bottom of the South Am totem pole. Save yourself the trip.

I've seen few Chilean chicks in London. Not exactly the best. Colombian girls are way better

Post: #27

Salm says “Chilean women are near the bottom of the South Am totem pole. Save yourself the trip.”

Similarly, 262 writes unenthusiastically: The women in Santiago itself? Meh.”

Have either of you spent time in the richer neighborhoods of Las Condes or Providencia? The richest ones of Santiago?

I ask not because I’ve been there yet - I haven’t. I ask because we all know that not even Roosh has “Bang[ed] Paraguay” - not literally! I ask because we know that the richest people everywhere tend to attract and represent the 'beautiful people' among large populations.

And therefore, for any longer-term visiter or potential single and thirsty resident, this is the informational data set that matters to us here.

As Roosh knows, beauty and attraction is a combination of fortunate genetic endowment, combined with the patterned preferences of social mating processes, ie, how and where excess incomes are consumed? Thus, while nobody “bangs Paraguay,” we will see segments of tens of thousands, and find meeting opportunities at cafes, malls, theaters and clubs composed of a few hundreds of females.





Conociendo el Mall alto las condes, Aug 2016



The quest here, then, is define those places! Seek them out, test and discover how to seduce the talent therein.

Thus, the simplest approach is to know where the richest people of Chile live and play, and then discover the best places to meet them and enjoy their company - RIGHT?

Chile is in the New World, and as such it is composed of peoples descended among the indigenous, voluntarily immigrated, and those once traded to work there as slaves. Furthermore, almost all of us have some ranking bias for (or against) the physical desirability of different races.

By properly understanding these demographic data, together with social factors involving the higher consumption goods (eg, homes, shopping, and entertainment), one can put oneself in the places to meet the targeted streams. And while ‘on the ground’ information is golden and rare - and hence, most prized here in the form of “Data Sheets” - one can know more about a nation by eliminating the least desired from the 'flock' of potential targets...until somebody cracks Chile!



The most basic Racial and ethnic breakdown of Chile: 55% caucasian, 42% mestizo or Amerindian. The best evidence is probably from genetic studies. (Self-reporting rates of 'whites' - probably because seen as more desirable - run about 5 to 10% higher than these.)

Interestingly, these same studies report that up to 1 out of 2 Chileans also have sub-Saharan African (ie, black) genes. (Now, I don’t know Chile’s pre-20th century history, but this datum may suggest Chile as functioning as some sort of refuge from black slavery on the Eastern side of the Andes.)

Among immigrant European peoples, we can surmise that Chilean height is probably a useful proxy for European ancestry.

The largest single groups winding up there are Basque or Navarre (10 to 20%), German (500,000), and Croatian (2.5 to 4.5%). Both of these latter peoples are known to be significantly taller than average.

The earliest large group of Europeans spoke German - they came from Germany and Switzerland, mostly, in the mid-nineteenth century. And they settled in southern or "Magellan" Chile.

To target this group, one might find out which universities people from Southern Chile favor attending. Then you can cross-check surnames of people in the nearby neighborhood's - are there a lot of German names there? If so, then BINGO! You've found them.

But the single largest European immigrant to Chile comes from the Basque region of Spain, ie, the Western Pyrenees, as well as SE France or Navarre. These people make up from 10 (1,600,000) to 20% (3,200,000) of Chile's population, based upon surnames.

Quote:The largest contingent of people to have arrived in post-independence Chile came from Spain and the Basque country, a region divided between northern Spain and southern France. Estimates of the number Chileans who have one or two surnames from Basque origin ranges from 10% (1,600,000) to as high as 20% (3,200,000).
Note that this phenomenon occurs not only in Chile, but also in every Autonomous Community of Spain, as well as in other Latin American countries one can see that a substantial portion of their populations have one or two surnames of Basque or Navarre origin, tending to be more common in the upper classes, and hence becoming more unusual in lower classes.

How to identify these females in public? Basques are more averagely tall. But this may well also be relatively "tall" for Chile (given the large Mestizo population, just like in Mexico).

Another public way to identify these Basque-euro descendants is lighter eyes, green and blue - the Basque have lighter eyes than most of the Spanish. If a movie theater or mall or grocery has more people with lighter eyes, then they are more likely to be among your European targets.

Of course, one could do more surname research and get more definite...and if one has time, interest or need - SURE!

Another 5% of Chileans have French ancestry; maybe a bit more from Italy (600,000); and somewhat less (4.5%) claim the British Isles as their background.

Another possibly useful proxy to find desirable descendants of Europeans is Protestant religion. Some 16% belong to "Evangelical religions" in Chile, according to Wikipedia. Find those churches in Santiago. Do these neighborhoods reflect Northern European surnames? Then hang out in their shopping spaces for day game and find out!


Wikipedia suggests that Chile is like Europe - English is being taught widely in schools, and youngest are likeliest to have the skills and interest in using the newest one, English:

Quote:Through initiatives such as the English Opens Doors program, the government made English mandatory for students in fifth-grade and above in public schools. Most private schools in Chile start teaching English from kindergarten [hence, the children of richer parents, who likely live in the best-off neighborhoods will be of interest]. Common English words have been absorbed and appropriated into everyday Spanish speech.

But perhaps I'm being too analytical. Maybe the best way to get Chile's panties off is to aggressively use all of the proxies of wealth.

What are the universities close to or within Las Condes and Providencia? How about the 16 movie complexes in Santiago? Which are closest to those richer neighborhoods? And their malls?

Target them for day game and find out. (Don't forget to report back here!)





Black Day Alto Las Condes, July, 2013

Not every nation is going to have a high-level concentration of genetic endowments (ie, beauty) like Ukraine or the Baltics; or like Thailand or Southern Vietnam; or Ethiopia and East Africa in general! Sometimes one has to, or wants to, work with the resources available.

But there is genuine talent there. With cleverness, the prospects to bang Chile improves - and the creative and persistent will be rewarded.


SOURCE: Demographics of Chile at Wikipedia.

Post: #28

To go skiing in Santiago de Chile, you have to pass through Las Condes, which I've done a few times. Can't say I've spent much time there, but still meh on the girls.

As a result of that and the other observations, I don't expect much ground data on Chile. Anyone pushing for it should just do it themselves.

The skiing is great though. The difference between the Andes and the Rockies is like the difference between the Rockies and the Appalachians.

Post: #29

It's interesting that Colombia is the only universally loved country in South America on this forum, with Brazil being number two, but even then a lot of people have differing opinions.

Peru seems to create completely opposing reactions in people. I've met people that absolutely love Lima and some people that absolutely hate it.

Chile, Argentina, Ecuador tend to get the "why bother?" response, when you can "just go to Colombia" instead.

I've been to Colombia but plan on going to Brazil soon for a big trip, so I will compare.

I've just spent 5 months in Ukraine and I have to say that while the women are very attractive on average, this country appeals to a specific type of guy. I'm in my late 20s. Ukraine is more ideal for older guys. Spending too much time in Ukraine while you're younger is going to be a big waste for most dudes. It's really great for a 40 + guy, who might be a little busted, but has a good amount of cash. This is arguably the best country for this type of guy, especially if he is into white girls that are younger than 24.

In fact, it's hard to think of a place that is better for this dude. In other words, Ukraine will be here when you're older, unless it completely gets sucked into the EU, then in that case it may become westernized, but as it currently stands Ukraine is a rare spot for less attractive older dudes that want really young beautiful women without directly paying for it.

The problem I get in Ukraine is that I have trouble connecting with the women. Some of this, I'm sure, is a language issue, but I've talked to a few other foreigners here and they've experienced something similar. It just seems hard for me to feel any connection, or get to know a Ukrainian girl. I've dated dozens of girls here, and granted I gave off a player vibe most of the time, but I just generally don't like the personality of women here.

Which is a strange thing to say, because most of them have that "quiet and sweet" vibe that I find endearing. I guess I felt like I was sort of making love to a mannequin most of the time.

But a lot of guys have long term girlfriends in Kiev. Finding a special girl that you want to spend a large amount of time with is something that you can't "game into happening". It just takes the right girl and the right connection. Whether or not Ukraine is a better environment for that than any other country is debatable.

For me, Ukraine has been a better place for short term flings, with absolutely zero emotional attachments, than it has been for relationships with warm feelings. A lot of this has to do with being younger and more direct.

Post: #30

(12-27-2016 08:02 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  Ukraine is more ideal for older guys. Spending too much time in Ukraine while you're younger is going to be a big waste for most dudes. It's really great for a 40 + guy, who might be a little busted, but has a good amount of cash. This is arguably the best country for this type of guy, especially if he is into white girls that are younger than 24.

In fact, it's hard to think of a place that is better for this dude.

Interesting. I don't think I've heard that said about Ukraine before. You think a guy in his forties can get a young 7 or 8 in Ukraine fairly easily if he has some cash and intermediate game?

Post: #31

I've met several guys here who are in their forties who have gotten girls that are in their early 20s.

I'm not saying it's easy, but it's going to be easier than most other places. The age factor has been talked about before.

Post: #32

Hey man, have you done a data sheet on Tehran before? (Apologies if you have, and I missed it...) I'm interested in going, so more intel would be amazing.

(12-21-2016 04:04 AM)IronShark Wrote:  At the moment in Tehran, I can run my father's company. But this city is crazy. 15 millions population, traffic, terrible culture, hipsterism and a herd of girls who are ready to jump on your dick because you are British and can get them out of hell on a marriage visa!

(12-20-2016 07:54 PM)LINUX Wrote:  I would say that explaining what you mean by "start a new life" would better help me give you personal feedback from my experience on where to choose.

"Start a new life" means a lot of different things to a lot of different people.

To some it's fucking, to some it's finding happiness, to some it's finding themselves.

What does it mean to you?

Post: #33

(12-27-2016 10:53 AM)_Cicero Wrote:  Hey man, have you done a data sheet on Tehran before? (Apologies if you have, and I missed it...) I'm interested in going, so more intel would be amazing.

(12-21-2016 04:04 AM)IronShark Wrote:  At the moment in Tehran, I can run my father's company. But this city is crazy. 15 millions population, traffic, terrible culture, hipsterism and a herd of girls who are ready to jump on your dick because you are British and can get them out of hell on a marriage visa!

(12-20-2016 07:54 PM)LINUX Wrote:  I would say that explaining what you mean by "start a new life" would better help me give you personal feedback from my experience on where to choose.

"Start a new life" means a lot of different things to a lot of different people.

To some it's fucking, to some it's finding happiness, to some it's finding themselves.

What does it mean to you?

Hey man,

I haven't done that yet. But a friends of mine from New Zealand has done it and it's somewhere in the Forum. I 100% approve that.

General rules of Iran:

- If you are white or black and you are American or European you're going to swim in pussies. Less chance for Asian looking or oriental folks. Iranians are extremely politically incorrect.

- Don't stay in a hotel. Logistics is everything here. You won't bang if you don't have private apartment.

- For bang stick to Tehran. For sightseeing, nature and historical places visit the rest of the country.

- You even don't need to use Tinder. Just day gaming gives you a flood of contacts.

Anymore questions, send me a private message.

Best,

Kave

Post: #34

(12-19-2016 11:34 AM)Nowak Wrote:  Lots of us on the forum are law and order types. Roosh himself mentioned the criminality in Latin America is a major disadvantage over Eastern Europe.

You are forgetting Argentina, one of the best countries in the world. Hot women, friendly people, good climate (not too hot), safe country. That is where I am hoping to be one day. [/align]

Post: #35

(01-02-2017 08:25 AM)bushcraft9 Wrote:  You are forgetting Argentina, one of the best countries in the world. Hot women, friendly people, good climate (not too hot), safe country. That is where I am hoping to be one day. [/align]

I'm intrigued by Argentina. I've met lots of Argentinian girls at hostels in Ecuador and Colombia. They're certainly hot and fun and way more educated than other girls in SA.

But I've found Argentinian girls to be a bit snooty. I've been out drinking with quite a few but I never hooked up with any. I've heard others say that Argentinians tend to be a difficult score, and I've personally found it to be the case, too. They seem aloof.

Post: #36

(01-02-2017 03:04 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 08:25 AM)bushcraft9 Wrote:  You are forgetting Argentina, one of the best countries in the world. Hot women, friendly people, good climate (not too hot), safe country. That is where I am hoping to be one day. [/align]

I'm intrigued by Argentina. I've met lots of Argentinian girls at hostels in Ecuador and Colombia. They're certainly hot and fun and way more educated than other girls in SA.

But I've found Argentinian girls to be a bit snooty. I've been out drinking with quite a few but I never hooked up with any. I've heard others say that Argentinians tend to be a difficult score, and I've personally found it to be the case, too. They seem aloof.

Yes mate, Argentina is one the classiest/sophisticated of all the Latin american countries. Look at the fact that they play Rugby Union to a high level which is a fairly complex sport (compared to soccer especially) in a soccer mad region. Also polo is quite big over there another sign off sophisication. I haven't been just researched though. The pictures of women from over there look good. I live in Spain and I would imagine the girls over there are similar to here and the girls here are hot.

Post: #37

I think it depends on your personal character and preferences, perhaps also your age and of course where in each continent.
If you are a very outgoing energetic individual perhaps you will appreciate the warmth of the latin people.
Personally I feel most at home in Colombia and Brazil where there is an unmatched vibrance and feeling of positive in the air that fills me.
Uruguay, Argentina and Chile without the African heritage in the mix are more European like and I have heard guys describe Argentinian girls as being snobby on numerous occasions on the forum, personally I did not experience this however I definitely saw differences, another person described them Argentinians as being more civilized. If thats the case I prefer the less civilized way of life the laidback and jolly way of the Brazilians is too me something to be admired, but then again I am an unorganised person at times and not very punctual so the things that may frustrate Westerners in Brazil and Colombia are not things that bother me personally.
You wont have these issues in Eastern Europe but if your going real east into Ukraine or Russia while the women are amazing the culture is not so welcoming or inclusive. Women in Latin America tend to base their decisions on Emotion compared to indepth logic and analysis in Ukraine.
The Balkans are a special place with warm and friendly locals so if I was looking for a place that combined that welcoming culture without the dangers and messiness of Brazil or Colombia I would choose an ex yugolsvanian country like Serbia or Slovenia, Romania is also a good option especially of you like Brunettes. The only country to disappoint me in the Balkans was Bulgaria.

Post: #38

(12-27-2016 08:02 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  It's interesting that Colombia is the only universally loved country in South America on this forum, with Brazil being number two, but even then a lot of people have differing opinions.

Peru seems to create completely opposing reactions in people. I've met people that absolutely love Lima and some people that absolutely hate it.

Chile, Argentina, Ecuador tend to get the "why bother?" response, when you can "just go to Colombia" instead.

I've been to Colombia but plan on going to Brazil soon for a big trip, so I will compare.

I've just spent 5 months in Ukraine and I have to say that while the women are very attractive on average, this country appeals to a specific type of guy. I'm in my late 20s. Ukraine is more ideal for older guys. Spending too much time in Ukraine while you're younger is going to be a big waste for most dudes. It's really great for a 40 + guy, who might be a little busted, but has a good amount of cash. This is arguably the best country for this type of guy, especially if he is into white girls that are younger than 24.

In fact, it's hard to think of a place that is better for this dude. In other words, Ukraine will be here when you're older, unless it completely gets sucked into the EU, then in that case it may become westernized, but as it currently stands Ukraine is a rare spot for less attractive older dudes that want really young beautiful women without directly paying for it.

The problem I get in Ukraine is that I have trouble connecting with the women. Some of this, I'm sure, is a language issue, but I've talked to a few other foreigners here and they've experienced something similar. It just seems hard for me to feel any connection, or get to know a Ukrainian girl. I've dated dozens of girls here, and granted I gave off a player vibe most of the time, but I just generally don't like the personality of women here.

Which is a strange thing to say, because most of them have that "quiet and sweet" vibe that I find endearing. I guess I felt like I was sort of making love to a mannequin most of the time.

But a lot of guys have long term girlfriends in Kiev. Finding a special girl that you want to spend a large amount of time with is something that you can't "game into happening". It just takes the right girl and the right connection. Whether or not Ukraine is a better environment for that than any other country is debatable.

For me, Ukraine has been a better place for short term flings, with absolutely zero emotional attachments, than it has been for relationships with warm feelings. A lot of this has to do with being younger and more direct.

This guy knows what hes talking about, I felt like this in Ukraine on occasions.
As I said In the post above I think this is partly down to personality.
And as mentioned here is also in part down to age, you have got two young guys here appreciating the Latin American way of life whereas others in a different stage of live would do better in Ukraine.
Personally I appreciate both and if you do not NEED to chose why not enjoy both these parts of the worlds, especially when the opposite seasons compliment each other. Even those who favour EE would likely take a Brazilian Summer over -20 degrees in Ukraine lol.

Post: #39

(12-23-2016 03:20 PM)Jack Of All Trades Wrote:  I honestly think eastern europe is better, with the expansion of the EU with all it's regulations isn't a bad thing. Cost of living is still very low in Poland and the baltic states and you can get a lot of bang for your buck relative to other western countries. You also have access to the EU market for whatever that's worth if you want to do a business. It's also very safe place and the quality of goods and services is pretty good as well.

At the moment Poland's political landscape isn't stable and predictable I would opt for Czech Rep or Slovakia

Post: #40

(12-25-2016 06:29 AM)IronShark Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 03:20 PM)Jack Of All Trades Wrote:  I honestly think eastern europe is better, with the expansion of the EU with all it's regulations isn't a bad thing. Cost of living is still very low in Poland and the baltic states and you can get a lot of bang for your buck relative to other western countries. You also have access to the EU market for whatever that's worth if you want to do a business. It's also very safe place and the quality of goods and services is pretty good as well.

That's all true about Eastern Europe and the effect of EU to make it a more regulated country. However, I think we are talking about micro-businesses we try to start there. So, starting a sole trader import/export business, a local restaurant or a consultancy shouldn't not be a big problem in SA countries. Plus, most Eastern European countries, including Poland, still suffer from the Soviet Union bureaucratic legacy.

Overall, I'm leaning toward South America mainly because:

- Learning Spanish is way easier than Baltic languages. I've also tried Russian. Mate, it's not easy.
- After shivering for a decade in UK, I don't mind a bit of tropical weather.
- I guess Ecuador is still an unknown land and I can start importing goods there. As I mentioned before, I have a friend who's done that in Ecuador.
- I personally prefer Eastern European women over South American. But this is what I'm ready to compromise.

What kind of products was your friend importing to Ecuador??

Post: #41

(01-04-2017 08:40 AM)mirakirikiri Wrote:  At the moment Poland's political landscape isn't stable and predictable I would opt for Czech Rep or Slovakia

How is poland's political landscape unstable? It's got pretty good infrastructure, an educated workforce with relatively good disposable income for 2nd world countries. It's also kind of forgotten, nobody talks about investing in poland, they all want to go to the BRICS or hip emerging markets.

Post: #42

(01-02-2017 07:32 PM)The Natural Wrote:  I think it depends on your personal character and preferences, perhaps also your age and of course where in each continent.
If you are a very outgoing energetic individual perhaps you will appreciate the warmth of the latin people.
Personally I feel most at home in Colombia and Brazil where there is an unmatched vibrance and feeling of positive in the air that fills me.
Uruguay, Argentina and Chile without the African heritage in the mix are more European like and I have heard guys describe Argentinian girls as being snobby on numerous occasions on the forum, personally I did not experience this however I definitely saw differences, another person described them Argentinians as being more civilized. If thats the case I prefer the less civilized way of life the laidback and jolly way of the Brazilians is too me something to be admired, but then again I am an unorganised person at times and not very punctual so the things that may frustrate Westerners in Brazil and Colombia are not things that bother me personally.
You wont have these issues in Eastern Europe but if your going real east into Ukraine or Russia while the women are amazing the culture is not so welcoming or inclusive. Women in Latin America tend to base their decisions on Emotion compared to indepth logic and analysis in Ukraine.
The Balkans are a special place with warm and friendly locals so if I was looking for a place that combined that welcoming culture without the dangers and messiness of Brazil or Colombia I would choose an ex yugolsvanian country like Serbia or Slovenia, Romania is also a good option especially of you like Brunettes. The only country to disappoint me in the Balkans was Bulgaria.

What disappointed you about Bulgaria?

Post: #43

(12-25-2016 06:31 AM)IronShark Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 10:39 PM)Slam Wrote:  Speaking as someone who has been to Chile, I have no intention of returning. Simon Black pushes the Chile button so hard, but guess what you never hear him talk about? THE WOMEN.

Chilean women are near the bottom of the South Am totem pole. Save yourself the trip.

I've seen few Chilean chicks in London. Not exactly the best. Colombian girls are way better

It's not even just the ugly chicks that were a big negative for Chile. Its also the culture, I've visited over 19 spanish speaking countries and Chile was the one I disliked the most. They don't have any of the latin flavor one expects in the region, they are more conservative and serious. Maybe this is why their economy is much stronger and they are better at business than their neighbors,. But it makes it feel like you are living in the West albeit with shorter uglier people.

Chile is super westernized, hipsters, feminists, daily fast food and wal-mart style obesity are par for the course in the country. The country is very expensive for the region and I found their food absolutely disgusting too. Major cities like Valparaiso and Chile have loads of agressive street dogs unlike anywhere I've ever been. Then there is the shitty accent...the most annoying, ugly, retarded spanish I have come across in all my travels. I don't see why anyone would leave the West to go to Chile, seems like it would be missing the point.

Post: #44

Everyone is forgetting that this part of the world (eastern Europe) has seen more blood spilt than anywhere else in the world due to simply being sandwiched in between east and west and today is no different with Russia just on their doorstep. This is why I would advise anyone to go South America particularly Argentina where you are likely to be safe in the event of a war breaking out. Not only that Argentina is a nice country, a very European country with similar values/culture. Argentina was totally unaffected by world war 1 and 2.

Post: #45

(12-27-2016 08:12 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 08:02 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  Ukraine is more ideal for older guys. Spending too much time in Ukraine while you're younger is going to be a big waste for most dudes. It's really great for a 40 + guy, who might be a little busted, but has a good amount of cash. This is arguably the best country for this type of guy, especially if he is into white girls that are younger than 24.

In fact, it's hard to think of a place that is better for this dude.

Interesting. I don't think I've heard that said about Ukraine before. You think a guy in his forties can get a young 7 or 8 in Ukraine fairly easily if he has some cash and intermediate game?

I agree with this. Have a friend who is late 40s and landed a 23 year old 8 in Ukraine. He is very high energy though.

Post: #46

(01-02-2017 07:32 PM)The Natural Wrote:  You wont have these issues in Eastern Europe but if your going real east into Ukraine or Russia while the women are amazing the culture is not so welcoming or inclusive. Women in Latin America tend to base their decisions on Emotion compared to indepth logic and analysis in Ukraine.
The Balkans are a special place with warm and friendly locals so if I was looking for a place that combined that welcoming culture without the dangers and messiness of Brazil or Colombia I would choose an ex yugolsvanian country like Serbia or Slovenia, Romania is also a good option especially of you like Brunettes. The only country to disappoint me in the Balkans was Bulgaria.

Good insight on LatAm. But I think women, regardless of their race, all make their decisions based on emotions. I had EE ladies who were a complete drama queen

Post: #47

(01-04-2017 11:17 AM)The Natural Wrote:  What kind of products was your friend importing to Ecuador??

He's importing genuine sunglasses from U.S. you also can import cheap fake stuff from Asia. But he doesn't touch this market

Post: #48

(01-05-2017 05:34 AM)NerdyNomad Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 08:12 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

(12-27-2016 08:02 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  Ukraine is more ideal for older guys. Spending too much time in Ukraine while you're younger is going to be a big waste for most dudes. It's really great for a 40 + guy, who might be a little busted, but has a good amount of cash. This is arguably the best country for this type of guy, especially if he is into white girls that are younger than 24.

In fact, it's hard to think of a place that is better for this dude.

Interesting. I don't think I've heard that said about Ukraine before. You think a guy in his forties can get a young 7 or 8 in Ukraine fairly easily if he has some cash and intermediate game?

I agree with this. Have a friend who is late 40s and landed a 23 year old 8 in Ukraine. He is very high energy though.

Probably we should stack some cash in LatAm in my 30s and then moving to Ukraine when I hit 40

Post: #49

(12-23-2016 10:39 PM)Slam Wrote:  Speaking as someone who has been to Chile, I have no intention of returning. Simon Black pushes the Chile button so hard, but guess what you never hear him talk about? THE WOMEN.

Chilean women are near the bottom of the South Am totem pole. Save yourself the trip.

So based on the following I am wondering if one can leverage Chile as a place for their business setup and LATAM access (i.e. User this MERCOSUR to stay/ travel and live within these countries as much as you want.. like a pseudo EU card?)?

I know that BR is too complex to get a business entity & regulations & corruption etc.. Are there Latin Nations that are like a MALTA (in EU) - business friendly.. and give you ACCESS to the surroundings?

Quote:Gaining residency takes about 3 to 4 months. Officially, it is up to 6 - but I hear the former is the norm. (And going through a lawyer is best.)

Once you have that, you can visit nearby MERCOSUR (spell?) countries on that document alone. If you wish to leave, you need to either revisit yearly or else file with the local Chilean Embassy for up to 4 years. After that, you can apply for citizenship.

Expats can either enter Chile on a tourist visa and then look for employment and apply for a temporary residence permit (valid for a year), or they can arrange a work visa prior to their arrival with a firm offer of employment from a Chilean company (normally valid for two years).

Post: #50

I would pick Eastern Europe for sure. I have been in Argentina and Brazil for a month each. Both of their culture is closer to Italy, weather is great, food is amazing too but it's too dangerous to live there. Nothing happened to me while visiting but I was being extra careful all the time.

On the other hand, I've been to most of Eastern European countries. I spent most my time in Lithuania because I loved girls way too much there. You could land a nice apt for 400 Euro right middle of the center, girls are amazing, beer at the bar is 2 euro.

What more can you ask?

You can ask, weather to be warmer of course but then it would be a paradise and all girls would have been taken.