Post: #26

(12-23-2016 10:02 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Germany is the middle of Europe, plenty of other countries to visit on a regular basis.

Australia is an island far from everywhere else.

Umm I have to agree with it.
For those who want to explore Europe and FSU, Australia won't be the best choice. It's also far from Latin America.
I actually want to go to those places more frequently, but the distance and flight ticket fees are discouraging.

Post: #27

It's actually a small continent. Greenland is the largest island according to geographers

Post: #28

(12-26-2016 07:21 PM)YMD Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 10:02 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Germany is the middle of Europe, plenty of other countries to visit on a regular basis.

Australia is an island far from everywhere else.

Umm I have to agree with it.
For those who want to explore Europe and FSU, Australia won't be the best choice. It's also far from Latin America.
I actually want to go to those places more frequently, but the distance and flight ticket fees are discouraging.

It is a no brainer, stay in Germany or Europe at least.

Being in Canada makes it hard to visit Europe on a regular basis.

I always wondered why there are loads of Aussies and Kiwis in London, most of the ones I met always use to gripe about the UK.

Post: #29

They gripe about the UK because they would prefer Australia to be located off the coast of France than in the middle of nowhere. Unfortunately that's not reality so they "settle" for UK as their European base.

Post: #30

(12-24-2016 08:14 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(12-20-2016 06:39 AM)YMD Wrote:  Guten tag, OP.
...
My country is notorious for the working condition. Employees are often forced to work for very long hours every day (sometimes without their rightful payment). Therefore, I do appreciate the working condition here no matter what other people say.
Living costs are high indeed, but the economy is (relatively) robust and growing.
If you think of living as an employee, then this is a great place. (I know many people on RVF endorse entrepreneurship, but there is no single advice which is universally helpful for every single man.)
...

I personally prefer to live in the sticks, and Australia is great for that. Pick a medium to small city and accept a longer commute to work, or find work teaching at a country school which are often hard up for staff willing to work in the middle of nowhere with "hicks". Rent for a small place is pitifully low and if you enjoy nature, hunting, etc then your recreation costs are non-existent.

Nothing beats being on a few acres surrounded by trees with only critters for neighbours.

Definitely agree with you there mate. One should learn some skills though before going out into remote areas. Like you said hunting, which should be one of them. Fishing, trapping, etc should be others. Unfortunately though in this modern world it is hard to get away from modern life, look at the flight path map of the world and will be unable to even see Europe due to its density of flight paths. I have looked at Argentina as being a possible country for me to settle eventually, do something that I am skilled which is farming.

Post: #31

Forget Australia, can't think of a country as worse as that marxist, big Government, police state to settle in. I mean look at gun regulations in that Country, that gives you an idea that this is a country, whose government can pull some insane stunt such as suddenly increasing its tax rate on everything. Forget it, go to Argentina, women are hot, people are friendly, climate is good, wide open spaces once you leave the capital, great food, and a cheap place to live.

Post: #32

Ive met several expats across Europe from Oz over the last year and many thinking of moving to some nation in Europe traveling through. Forum and articles at ROK will tell you the only ladies worse than the Merkans are ones from Oz. The problems with cultural marxism are horrendous and the situation with bike helmets is beyond ridiculous.

However there are two big advantages Australia has over Europe as a whole

1 A generally decent economy (Germany's is better though or more or less the same) that is material standards of well being are much higher than in Southern or Eastern Europe as well as parts of North western Europe. Then again, as a teacher from Germany,I imagine things aren't going to be very different


2 Along with Canada and New Zealand , Australia has a relatively better situation with immigration and the types of people let in. Us Europeans really need to emulate your island processing policy, at least its better than the shit show thats going on now.

Post: #33

I would say canada isn't much better than germany when it comes to a decent economy, especially with what's happening now. It's pretty bad as a whole and the job market is pretty bad. You also don't get cheap flights to fun places to party like you do in germany in canada, traveling is a struggle because it's expensive.

Post: #34

Germany is the fourth strongest economy in the world.

Other than sun, I wouldn't even consider Australia. The women would be a nail in the coffin for me.

Post: #35

I think you should stay in germany, and take advantage of the generous vacation times. From what I understand europeans can get up to 2 months a year in vacation if they save up their holidays? While making good wages in germany I don't understand how you can go wrong with that. Continental europeans are spoiled when it comes to vacation and time off, your going to get maybe 2 weeks off a year in canada or the USA. Not only that but your going to need a few years to get used to how things are done in a new country (taxes, housing, banking, etc.).

Post: #36

I grew up in Australia and now have moved to Thailand. I can't stand Western society where I've travel and live in most of them. They are all basically the same! We also open our doors to immigration where alot of tenants I interview now come from the middle east (Muslims). They get free money and healthcare very easily and can bring their families over without a problem.

I had a friend that gave up teaching in Australia. You can't say "no" to children here cause the child might get upset. Kids have more rights than parents and teachers. Upset a child and you will have their crazy parent on your back to protect their little angel.

I know a couple of my teachers from high school that had mental breakdowns due to middle school students! This teacher had 2 strokes in the last 10 years. He is now teaching in Thailand and is 100x more happier cause kids there are brought up to respect their elders, specially their teachers!

Post: #37

Income protection. An insurance company told me about a woman that is getting paid out for life because she got ptsd from psychological trauma done to her from kids at school.

Post: #38

Has OP given up on Oz relocation ?

Post: #39

Forgot to mention, no internet in Oz.

Post: #40

Hey guys, I´ve been out for some time. But my dream is still to go to Australia. I can´t study in Australia moneywise, so I thought about doing a new Bachelor in Germany for 3 years and then go to Australia. Are there any jobs on the SOL that just require a Bachelor of 3 years ?

I read about Forester, but that´s not really my dream job.

Post: #41

My sister had a worthless Bachelor degree in underwater basket weaving but managed to get working visa sponsorship at a marketing company and now she's about to get permanent residency.

https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work...-lists/SOL

Nobody can advise you on what profession on the SOL to take up. It's your life and I can't tell you to take up being a locksmith or panelbeater just because it's on the list.

Funny story, I knew a guy that was do a degree in pharmacy because being a pharmacist was on the SOL list years ago. Midway through his studies the government took pharmacist off the list so the guy dropped out of pharmacy and became a bricklayer! I thought he was insane but his determination proved me otherwise - he got his PR and became a citizen a full year ahead of me.

Post: #42

You're better off getting into a trade than a Bachelors degree,if you want to cut it in the working man's paradise mate.

Post: #43

Nursing is always a good fallback if you can hack female-dominated workplaces.

Once you graduate you can quickly aim for a specialised role like community nursing to get away from the THOTs or use your credits toward a more manly pursuit like becoming a paramedic.

Post: #44

(12-17-2016 08:13 AM)DirtyGlobal Wrote:  My Background:
I am studying Eduaction to become a teacher, but could also change career path easily.

Australia = terrible place to be a teacher

Quote:I was amazed by Australia and ist multicultural society. A multicultural society how it should be and not how Germany is becoming.

Really? No offence, but I think you spent too much time with fellow European backpackers.

Read about the problems in Fairfield or Lakemba in Sydney, or the Apex gang in Melbourne that the Andrews Labor government in Victoria is doing shit-all about. All in the name of multiculturalism.

Post: #45

(03-26-2017 09:44 AM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  

(12-17-2016 08:13 AM)DirtyGlobal Wrote:  My Background:
I am studying Eduaction to become a teacher, but could also change career path easily.

Australia = terrible place to be a teacher

Quote:I was amazed by Australia and ist multicultural society. A multicultural society how it should be and not how Germany is becoming.

Really? No offence, but I think you spent too much time with fellow European backpackers.

Read about the problems in Fairfield or Lakemba in Sydney, or the Apex gang in Melbourne that the Andrews Labor government in Victoria is doing shit-all about. All in the name of multiculturalism.

Why is Australia a terrible place to be a teacher ?

I never went to Fairfield, so I don´t know. But I can imagine the banlieue of Paris is 1000 times worse. And it´s jsut one suburb of Sydney. Go to big german cities and the whole city looks like fairfield. Or just go to big train stations, for example in Frankfurt. You have it everywhere here. When I was in Australia I saw one muslim woman covered up. And thats in 8 months. In Germany I see them here daily. No comparison.

Post: #46

I'd enquire on what you have to do to get your German teaching credentials recognised in Australia. That's something you should look into now. Your plan looks pretty risk free so far

Post: #47

I spent a couple years living and working in OZ. Had a great time, it's a place where social circle definitely helps like anywhere else. I definitely recommend meeting locals and foreigners while there. A lot of expats hang out in packs, like the spaniards, Italians, French, Thai, etc. Once you get in with one they will introduce you to their circles which is where you can get some nice traction with girls that aren't Aussie.

Amazing weather and beaches in general though, and generally good pay with respect to the cost of living. Nice quality of life although politically it is very liberal. Baristas there can make $25/hr. Contract engineering work is very high like $70-80+/hr. Not sure about teaching jobs though.

You will be exotic so that always helps with the local women. I probably prefer American girls over Ozzie girls in general but Ozzie girls seem to be less hell-bent on getting married like USA girls. It's a societal thing.

Visa-wise, depending on how old you are: you can get a work and holiday Visa that will allow you to live and work in the country for up to one year (but work no more than 6 months for any one employer). If you're looking at SOL jobs, there's two options: the 457 employer sponsored version and there's also an independent option that you can apply for once you're in country but it will cost you a few grand and takes a bit of time to process.

You can enter the country on the work/holiday Visa and then apply for employer sponsored jobs if your occupation is in the SOL list. Or go the independent option which is very similar to getting a green card. Let me know if you have any further qs.

Post: #48

Almost forgot, there's also the regional sponsored visa option which is a sponsorship from local govt in less developed or less desirable areas. I believe there's a minimum amount of time you have to spend in these areas to satisfy the requirements of the Visa but once you do, you can apply for PR I believe.

Post: #49

If he can get his skill recognised when he finishes his studies he ought to go skilled independent. With sponsorships they will pay you the minimum and you are locked in.

German guys who are moderately okay looking and average height can slay here. Quality is an issue though.

Post: #50

Thanks for all the input so far !
What I am thinking about is change of getting PR.

1. I need to get a degree for a job that is on the SOL. Who knows if it is still there when I graduate ?
2. When I graduate I need to get a positive outcome from the assessing authority. Maybe I will get denied.
3. I need to have 60 points. So far if I do everything as planned I would get 55 points. The 5 points could come from somewhere.
4. I would get an invitation from the government to apply. I heard stories that people are denied with 60 points and a positive outcome from the assessing authority.
5. Money, money, money.

Its a long road and its not even sure that I pass all the listed 5 points here.
So, do you think it is a risky road to take ?