Post: #1

Well, money is the root of all evil...but

I've lost two friends in the past over a woman, never money.

I think when it comes to friends, they're more likely to fuck you over with pussy, whereas strangers are more likely to fuck you over with money.

Post: #2

I'd say women. When men think about money they're still operating in the realm of logic.

But women and pussy make a man emotional and irrational.

Post: #3

^ Agreed.

Post: #4

(12-10-2016 08:21 PM)Unchained Wrote:  I'd say women. When men think about money they're still operating in the realm of logic.

But women and pussy make a man emotional and irrational.

This.

Post: #5

Hey, JohnBozzzzzz, big fan of your posts. Glad to have you back on the forum (albeit, with a new user name).

Post: #6

I have to agree with the comments above. Money can cause some jealousy between men. But women men are powerless to alot of circumstances. Men tend to get angry, very jealous, and can have there pride damaged. Its also the fact that women get more options to reproduce then men as well.

Post: #7

Pussy is cheap. When stake is high, guys will fuck you over with money. Women are irrelevant in the long run.

Post: #8

It depends on the person, if he can easily get women the chances of him fucking you over women will be lower.
Again, if he easily makes good money, then chances of him fucking you over money are lower too.

Post: #9

More often it will be money, I think. The way I see it, one of the main reasons men want money is because they believe it will get them lots of pussy(doesn't matter whether they're right or wrong, that's what most men believe). So that way they will get both.

Of course, they'll also screw you over for pussy without thinking twice about it.

Post: #10

It seems from time to time, men have the ability to think logically about financial issues and decide whether, say, pursuing legal action against someone regarding a financial wrong is worth the trouble, or whether in the long run it's best to walk away, even though you're in the right.

Not always though; for example the early history of electronics/radio is filled with some of the most egregious examples of men fucking each other over money. Everyone knew that this was a new world that was going to blow up, with enormous profits to be made, and as "ginatingles" says the stakes were very high indeed.

Not everyone made it out alive. The inventor of the neon lamp was shot to death in his garage by another disgruntled inventor who realized that he had been beaten to the punch for a patent on some finally fairly trivial invention which likely had limited profit potential to start with.

The inventor of FM radio, Edwin Armstrong, spent years of his life fighting RCA in patent disputes, and eventually ended up nearly destitute and hopelessly depressed. He wrote his wife a final goodbye letter, then took a swan dive out of a NYC hotel window in the 1940s.

When it comes to pussy, however, it seems many men just have a natural instinct to cockblock and white knight. Even the bartenders will cockblock you over a girl they don't even know!

It's like they're willing to take a swan dive out of a NYC hotel for the equivalent of a six pack of Blue Ribbon.

Before I ended this post I was trying to figure out whether more men have been murdered over pussy or money (not including war here.) I couldn't decide one way or the other off the top of my head. But as pussy is almost free, I definitely think that says something regardless.

Post: #11

I think it depends on how much money is at stake. Because we have seen drug dealers and gangsters kill each other over money.

(12-10-2016 07:13 PM)killjoy Wrote:  Well, money is the root of all evil...but

I've lost two friends in the past over a woman, never money.

I think when it comes to friends, they're more likely to fuck you over with pussy, whereas strangers are more likely to fuck you over with money.

Post: #12

Money because it's just much easier to do and easier to rationalize(oh he's rolling in cash) as long as it's not outright stealing and instead scamming with a ploy.

With women on the other hand subconsciously it's a hard thing to do before and after mentally. Because you know you know deep down you are A. Getting second hand pussy that will leave you and B. Are completely going to be ostracized for pulling a hoe move.

A guy getting scammed might never ever blame you, but stealing a man's girlfriend/wife is how to make a lifelong enemy. Which is enough of a deterrent as it is.

I also don't consider white knighting fucking me over. It's just a way for a guy to embarrass themselves and not get any. I can always find another girl. They'll always still be a sexless loser that'll be forced to cuddle and listen to a chick's bullshit for hours.

Post: #13

(12-11-2016 09:15 AM)ginatingles Wrote:  Pussy is cheap. When stake is high, guys will fuck you over with money. Women are irrelevant in the long run.

I personally agree with you, brother, but you must consider this:
Pussy is not cheap when it comes to a lot of men. Pussy is a scarce, sacred resource to them. Pussy is an oasis in a dry dessert of sand.

Only once man has his desires towards pussy satisfied, can he see the bigger picture and see that pussy is in fact quite cheap.
Until then, men will fuck their friends over for the slightest whiff of the sweet scent of pussy.

Post: #14

Friend test:

Take your friend to a club and start talking to a group of attractive women. See what he does to the set. If he properly wings you (in this case great friend), or comes over and acts all cool trying to make you look bad/etc, or tries to steal the girl you are talking to.

Great way to quickly know if it is worth it to hang out with as a wingman.

Post: #15

I'd say pussy.
A guy who used to be my best friend growing up threw me under the bus for some pussy. But he was a weak guy to begin with so i wasn't super angry once i realized this.

Post: #16

Another factor: money doesnt have a will of its own, doesnt manipulate man (willingly or un-), doesnt flake, doesnt get pregnant, doesnt enjoy drama or intentionally cause it, etc.

You see a shit ton of posts around about rich and famous men get their life fuck over by a woman. Have you seen many threads about men with shit tons of women lose money? Hell the fuck no, that badass prolly bathing in gold these hoes give him out of pockets of their husbands.

On the contrary I've seen friendship turned into nemesis, families broken, civilization destroyed, cities leveled, invasion started because of some hoes. The last case because Menelaus of Sparta got so mad Helen made off with Paris of Troy.

Post: #17

It depends on how successful with women/money the man in question is. Broke guys are more likely to screw you over for money, and thirsty guys are more likely to screw you over with women.

My experience is 80% of men are relatively secure (ie, at least not desperate) in their wealth level, but only 10% of men are secure when it comes to women. So you're far more likely to get screwed over for women.

Post: #18

(12-11-2016 06:29 PM)qwertyuiop Wrote:  Friend test:

Take your friend to a club and start talking to a group of attractive women. See what he does to the set. If he properly wings you (in this case great friend), or comes over and acts all cool trying to make you look bad/etc, or tries to steal the girl you are talking to.

Great way to quickly know if it is worth it to hang out with as a wingman.

Most hated wingmen:

Wingmen who wont even distract an ugly friend for you (cause hes not interested or attracted) so you can get ahead. Im not saying take the grenade all the time but damn... what the fuck are you here for if you arent gonna help me out?

Wingmen who always want to take the hottest girl... Sometimes you both like the same kind of girls and he wont take turns with you approaching hot girls.. Always gotta approach the best girl in every set and leave you with the less attractive ones.

I think I should start a new thread. haha

Post: #19

Well, money is the root of all evil...
false its women who manipulate man in to evil...
The fairer sex my ass.
I can already hear the feminazi screaming sexist.

Post: #20

(12-10-2016 07:13 PM)killjoy Wrote:  I've lost two friends in the past over a woman...
...
more likely to fuck you over with pussy...

How did you get fucked over by friends with pussy...or how did you lose the friends?

Post: #21

(12-12-2016 09:00 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Most hated wingmen:

Wingmen who wont even distract an ugly friend for you (cause hes not interested or attracted) so you can get ahead. Im not saying take the grenade all the time but damn... what the fuck are you here for if you arent gonna help me out?

Wingmen who always want to take the hottest girl... Sometimes you both like the same kind of girls and he wont take turns with you approaching hot girls.. Always gotta approach the best girl in every set and leave you with the less attractive ones.

I think I should start a new thread. haha

Man, selfish wingmen who won't entertain a grenade are only about a '5' on the wingman scale. They're not great, but they're not the worst. The worst are male friends/acquaintances/coworkers who'll go out of their way to cockblock you if they see you talking to hot girls. Either because they're in relationships and (sub)consciously jealous, or else they're just really bad wingmen and will sabotage you deliberately if they're having no luck to make themselves feel better.

Post: #22

(12-12-2016 10:13 AM)heavy Wrote:  

(12-10-2016 07:13 PM)killjoy Wrote:  I've lost two friends in the past over a woman...
...
more likely to fuck you over with pussy...

How did you get fucked over by friends with pussy...or how did you lose the friends?

One "friend" was assassinating my character behind my back (telling my girl about my various infidelities & misdeeds) while at the same time aggrandizing himself & whispering sweet nothings in her ear. She ended up telling me all the shit he was saying so I cut him off.

In college another "friend" stopped speaking to me because he thought I was making a move on a chick he liked. I wasn't, but somehow he got it in his head I was trying to steal her away (even though they weren't dating) as he languished in the friend zone.

Men can act like real bitches when it comes to women.

Post: #23

(12-12-2016 11:16 AM)zatara Wrote:  

(12-12-2016 09:00 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Most hated wingmen:

Wingmen who wont even distract an ugly friend for you (cause hes not interested or attracted) so you can get ahead. Im not saying take the grenade all the time but damn... what the fuck are you here for if you arent gonna help me out?

Wingmen who always want to take the hottest girl... Sometimes you both like the same kind of girls and he wont take turns with you approaching hot girls.. Always gotta approach the best girl in every set and leave you with the less attractive ones.

I think I should start a new thread. haha

Man, selfish wingmen who won't entertain a grenade are only about a '5' on the wingman scale. They're not great, but they're not the worst. The worst are male friends/acquaintances/coworkers who'll go out of their way to cockblock you if they see you talking to hot girls. Either because they're in relationships and (sub)consciously jealous, or else they're just really bad wingmen and will sabotage you deliberately if they're having no luck to make themselves feel better.

And there's why I started rolling solo. I noticed a pattern of me opening a girl and one of my now former friends would swoop in to either drag me away and/or leave with her while I'd be taking a piss or getting a drink.

Post: #24

It's mistaken to think that this is an either or question.

If they are worse with money than women, they will fuck you over with money.

If they are worse with women than money, they will fuck you over with women.

If they are equally as bad with both, you are fucking yourself over hanging out with them.

Men will fuck over other men for the thing they do not have abundance of.

Some men will fuck other men out of money legally, but that is still business. There is no real comparison for illegal/legal ways to fuck other men out of women.