Post: #26

Quote:After I finish watching a video I always check the comments to get a feel for where the general consensus is of the audience and I got a lot of what I expecting.

"They're not entitled to sex", "The patriarchy creates pressure that makes men feel pressure to conform", "Not all girls have it easy", "This is pathetic", "I actually think Michael is cute", blah blah blah.

This is the most heartless part about it.

Guys like Michael will read that comment and glean false hope from it.

It's an affirmation, however facile, that he's doing something good.

Of course to the vapid cunt who left that comment, he is; by not contaminating the gene pool for her and her offspring. By being a good little boy and not breaking his beta incel mold, by not challenging the status quo, by not daring to put his own best interests first. Forgive me for going a little too evo-psyche on that one.

They are committed to a static existence, not a dynamic one. As such, they will continue along this path and when they get little intangible, insignificant, and useless comments like that, it encourages them to stay in their lane.

Post: #27

I bit the bullet and watched the whole thing. It's only about 30 mins, but guys like that physically disgust me (they remind me of guys I knew in high school who smelled bad) so I had to watch in small segments.

The doc isn't terribly well-done — it's kind of haphazard and random, as you would expect from a young woman filmmaker. It's also a bit pointless and depressing, as you would expect given its subjects.

The guy who started the "support group" website is an obvious geek with serious issues. Toward the end of the video he says that he wishes he could make it that he had never existed, that his life had never happened. This is said not as a painful lament, but almost as though the idea excites him. That is some twisted loser shit on a whole 'nother level.

Best quote is from the long-haired dude: "I would do anything just for a 300-pound ugly white girl. I would fight in the front lines of the bloodiest battle the world has ever seen, and come back with no limbs, if it meant that that would guarantee me an ugly fat chick for life."

The "PUA" guy was kind of interesting, and kind of funny, though he also described himself as incel. So he's a PUA but has had no results? At least he has some interest in improving himself and his situation in life.

Post: #28

(12-04-2016 05:20 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  ^Okay, while true, guys like us have to be the guiding light to guys like that. Ask them if Arnold Swarzenegger is a bad guy. Ask them if John Cena is a bad guy. Or the Rock.

A lot of these guys are spending their entire lives hiding from the schoolyard bully and the preppy bitches, as if their entire existence was one endless grade school recess break. That said, you can invest a lot in a kid only for it to go down the shitter in the end. I've been there. When I began my transformation I acted as a guiding light to several other guys, and there was a third I really wanted to get on board but it was just too much for him. He was diabetic and as far as he was concerned that meant he was cursed to live as a beta fag for the rest of his life (not his words, obviously).

Sad, but you place your bets and you roll the dice.

I think the best foot you can put forward is to tell guys like that that being an alpha gives you the opportunity to change the world for the better in a way that hiding from the world never will. You can be a great boyfriend, fiancée, husband, father. You can be the guy your family looks up to. You can stand up for the little guy. All of those are opportunities to make the world a better place, and all you have to do is dedicate one measly year to diet and exercise.

There is no moral superiority in being small, weak, and powerless to alter the world around you when a little hard work and discipline can make you strong, confident and capable of doing good in the world.

Or the simplest way of putting it is "I used to be just like you...". Then smile and walk away. There is really no greater seed to plant in their mind than that.

Those examples you listed, 'they' consider them bad too.
Like the example I mentioned about rich people, they are gonna view those people through the mindset that they had to step on the little guy to get where they are.
The only way they will see masculinity as good, is they see someone they know personally as a masculine but good person.
Once they see it's possible, they will change their mindset, and hopefully change themselves.

How do they say it now?
Practice what you preach. That is the only way to get through to these poor men.
Otherwise they think you're just spouting pipe dreams.
("There's no way someone that successful in life can be a good person!")

About those that are born with disadvantages?
Well, I don't know what I can say.
Just enjoy ANY little thing you got going for you.
Because in the next life, you might not even have that.
Even something like the chance to jerk off is a gift.
Sure, it's not a woman.
But you might not even hands to do it next time.

Post: #29

(12-04-2016 06:03 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

Quote:After I finish watching a video I always check the comments to get a feel for where the general consensus is of the audience and I got a lot of what I expecting.

"They're not entitled to sex", "The patriarchy creates pressure that makes men feel pressure to conform", "Not all girls have it easy", "This is pathetic", "I actually think Michael is cute", blah blah blah.

This is the most heartless part about it.

Guys like Michael will read that comment and glean false hope from it.

It's an affirmation, however facile, that he's doing something good.

Of course to the vapid cunt who left that comment, he is; by not contaminating the gene pool for her and her offspring. By being a good little boy and not breaking his beta incel mold, by not challenging the status quo, by not daring to put his own best interests first. Forgive me for going a little too evo-psyche on that one.

They are committed to a static existence, not a dynamic one. As such, they will continue along this path and when they get little intangible, insignificant, and useless comments like that, it encourages them to stay in their lane.

Well said, I thought the same thing.

I watched part of it, found it interesting.

"Advanced" seems to have a whole host of issues. He really needs to cut his damn hair. But aside from that, he needs some serious psychological help before proceeding with any sort of relationship. His bitterness and anger seem so baked in.

Michael and Anthony seem like good guys, just not 'alpha'. Sure both could stand to get in better shape and dress better, particularly Michael. That and practicing approaching women, I think they'd be ok.

Thing is, being shy isn't cute or endearing as it's portrayed in movies and TV. It's absolutely catastrophic if you're a guy. That said, being shy is not at all crippling for a woman, hence why any guy who would take a woman's word on this would have to be a complete moron. Another example of how men and women are different.

So I do share empathy with Michael and Anthony in that it sucks to see what appears to be two decent human beings not be able to enjoy an important part of life. And one doesn't need to become 'alpha' nor expect a total reset to happen over night. But it is important to have an improvement plan and stick to it. It's not complicated, dress better, get in better shape, approach women that you're interested in. Block out all the other terrible advice that feminists and the like minded will give you, i.e "just be yourself", "don't change, you're adorable", "I think shy guys are cute!". I had a friend in college who girls would describe as "shy" but they really liked him. He wasn't shy, he was just quiet and wouldn't cheat on nor disrespect his girlfriend by flirting with other girls. And they didn't like him because he was "shy", they liked him because he's 6'3, ripped and made money as a male model.

Anyway, I guess I empathize because as I've mentioned I've had a few younger coworkers confess to me their frustrations. I'm proud to say that I recently saw on social media that one former coworker has a cute girlfriend. I gave him the exact same advice 1) Lift some weights (he was skinny fat) and engage in outdoor activities 2) Stop wearing the same color polo every day and get some new clothes 3) Just ask out girls, don't worry about rejection, it happens to all guys and most importantly 4) Do not take any advice from women, be a man and trust your male instincts. I can't take credit because it could be purely coincidental, but I am happy that for a young guy who had a lot going on (he's funny, smart, makes good $), he was able to overcome something that clearly troubled him. Sometimes all it takes is a man with a plan, the wherewithal to follow through.

Post: #30

You can call these men weak but they're simply the product of the feminine society. We really need to move forward with getting our message mainstream or more men will suffer.

Post: #31

(12-04-2016 07:01 PM)Sancho Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 05:20 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  ^Okay, while true, guys like us have to be the guiding light to guys like that. Ask them if Arnold Swarzenegger is a bad guy. Ask them if John Cena is a bad guy. Or the Rock.

A lot of these guys are spending their entire lives hiding from the schoolyard bully and the preppy bitches, as if their entire existence was one endless grade school recess break. That said, you can invest a lot in a kid only for it to go down the shitter in the end. I've been there. When I began my transformation I acted as a guiding light to several other guys, and there was a third I really wanted to get on board but it was just too much for him. He was diabetic and as far as he was concerned that meant he was cursed to live as a beta fag for the rest of his life (not his words, obviously).

Sad, but you place your bets and you roll the dice.

I think the best foot you can put forward is to tell guys like that that being an alpha gives you the opportunity to change the world for the better in a way that hiding from the world never will. You can be a great boyfriend, fiancée, husband, father. You can be the guy your family looks up to. You can stand up for the little guy. All of those are opportunities to make the world a better place, and all you have to do is dedicate one measly year to diet and exercise.

There is no moral superiority in being small, weak, and powerless to alter the world around you when a little hard work and discipline can make you strong, confident and capable of doing good in the world.

Or the simplest way of putting it is "I used to be just like you...". Then smile and walk away. There is really no greater seed to plant in their mind than that.

Those examples you listed, 'they' consider them bad too.
Like the example I mentioned about rich people, they are gonna view those people through the mindset that they had to step on the little guy to get where they are.
The only way they will see masculinity as good, is they see someone they know personally as a masculine but good person.
Once they see it's possible, they will change their mindset, and hopefully change themselves.

How do they say it now?
Practice what you preach. That is the only way to get through to these poor men.
Otherwise they think you're just spouting pipe dreams.
("There's no way someone that successful in life can be a good person!")

About those that are born with disadvantages?
Well, I don't know what I can say.
Just enjoy ANY little thing you got going for you.
Because in the next life, you might not even have that.
Even something like the chance to jerk off is a gift.
Sure, it's not a woman.
But you might not even hands to do it next time.

Wise words Sancho, especially the last paragraph. It's a large part of the disease going around in the world today, where someone else's success immediately become associated with one's own short comings. If you try to explain to your average person why captilisim is actually their best for innovation in a society they wouldn't understand. Much the same way these guys wouldn't understand masculinity is about perseverance and breaking through barriers. Imposing your will on the world. These are broad but powerful concepts, however someone has to inch you towards them. A father, uncle, maybe an honest mother or your favourite rapper. You have to connect the dots yourself for the message to mean anything and becoming applicable to you.

(12-04-2016 10:12 PM)CRR Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 06:03 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

Quote:After I finish watching a video I always check the comments to get a feel for where the general consensus is of the audience and I got a lot of what I expecting.

"They're not entitled to sex", "The patriarchy creates pressure that makes men feel pressure to conform", "Not all girls have it easy", "This is pathetic", "I actually think Michael is cute", blah blah blah.

This is the most heartless part about it.

Guys like Michael will read that comment and glean false hope from it.

It's an affirmation, however facile, that he's doing something good.

Of course to the vapid cunt who left that comment, he is; by not contaminating the gene pool for her and her offspring. By being a good little boy and not breaking his beta incel mold, by not challenging the status quo, by not daring to put his own best interests first. Forgive me for going a little too evo-psyche on that one.

They are committed to a static existence, not a dynamic one. As such, they will continue along this path and when they get little intangible, insignificant, and useless comments like that, it encourages them to stay in their lane.

Well said, I thought the same thing.

I watched part of it, found it interesting.

"Advanced" seems to have a whole host of issues. He really needs to cut his damn hair. But aside from that, he needs some serious psychological help before proceeding with any sort of relationship. His bitterness and anger seem so baked in.

Anyway, I guess I empathize because as I've mentioned I've had a few younger coworkers confess to me their frustrations. I'm proud to say that I recently saw on social media that one former coworker has a cute girlfriend. I gave him the exact same advice 1) Lift some weights (he was skinny fat) and engage in outdoor activities 2) Stop wearing the same color polo every day and get some new clothes 3) Just ask out girls, don't worry about rejection, it happens to all guys and most importantly 4) Do not take any advice from women, be a man and trust your male instincts. I can't take credit because it could be purely coincidental, but I am happy that for a young guy who had a lot going on (he's funny, smart, makes good $), he was able to overcome something that clearly troubled him. Sometimes all it takes is a man with a plan, the wherewithal to follow through.

Advanced is the result of living in a hyper sexual society and not being able to even get 2 mins on the court in the game of life. After a while I'm pretty sure he associated his lack of access to being taunted by the women around him. This thing he sees in every movie that's so great, this thing he hears songs written about from Johnny Cash to Future and he can't get a piece? It becomes fuck society and fuck himself ultimately. He came to the conclusion there's something wrong with not only his reflection but maybe the mirror he's looking into as well. Having a cool older bro or coach who could connect the dots and share his own story would see the early stages of his teen years as the perfect chance to plant the seed. Forget the mystery method, how about starting with asking a girl where she got her shirt first? No routines just inner game and practicality.

(12-05-2016 03:49 AM)TheWhiteWolf Wrote:  You can call these men weak but they're simply the product of the feminine society. We really need to move forward with getting our message mainstream or more men will suffer.

This is definitely a big part of the solution. Showing others in the bubble that they aren't alone in their thought process and there are set ways to become a better man.

Post: #32

(12-05-2016 12:32 PM)Mayweather Wrote:  

(12-05-2016 03:49 AM)TheWhiteWolf Wrote:  You can call these men weak but they're simply the product of the feminine society. We really need to move forward with getting our message mainstream or more men will suffer.

This is definitely a big part of the solution. Showing others in the bubble that they aren't alone in their thought process and there are set ways to become a better man.

It is already happening. The Economist magazine had an article on the manosphere. They regarded the movement as not mainstream, but more than a radical fringe element. It is a growing movement. It is a natural, albeit delayed, counter reaction to the feminist message.

Post: #33

(12-05-2016 12:32 PM)Mayweather Wrote:  This is definitely a big part of the solution. Showing others in the bubble that they aren't alone in their thought process and there are set ways to become a better man.

A characteristic of males who identify as "incel" is often extreme hostility toward "normies" — i.e., the sexually successful — along with extreme bitterness/resentment toward any efforts to offer guidance, which they view as patronizing.

The Love Shy forum is now closed to non-members, but a recent post on the r/Incels subreddit (titled "Normies I don't want your fucking advice") sums up the attitude:

Quote:I am sick of hearing it. Nothing ever gets better, people just get used to it. Man fucking whatever. Stop gloating about your amazing lives; we get it, you got lucky. All you ever do is make me even more miserable. Be happy you aren't me, because you would be fucking nothing. I am a subhuman piece of shit, hope this post makes you feel better. You got a speeding ticket ? Bf broke up with you? Well at least you can laugh at me, right? Normies just come here to laugh, get an ego boost; they actually think they are good for giving me false hope.

Another titled "You normies wouldn't last one fucking week in my shoes":

Quote:No bullshit. You normies do not know what it's like to suffer from aspergers. You normies don't know what it's like to be incel. Most of you normies have lots going for you. I have nothing going for me. You take everything for granted, you start feeling bad some days and then you come here to laugh at Incels. Fuck off. I am in pain.

I hate to think that anyone is truly hopeless, but many of these males seem to be virulently resistant to the very idea of self-improvement, or to accepting help from anyone.

Post: #34

(12-05-2016 11:07 PM)Scoundrel Wrote:  

(12-05-2016 12:32 PM)Mayweather Wrote:  This is definitely a big part of the solution. Showing others in the bubble that they aren't alone in their thought process and there are set ways to become a better man.

A characteristic of males who identify as "incel" is often extreme hostility toward "normies" — i.e., the sexually successful — along with extreme bitterness/resentment toward any efforts to offer guidance, which they view as patronizing.

The Love Shy forum is now closed to non-members, but a recent post on the r/Incels subreddit (titled "Normies I don't want your fucking advice") sums up the attitude:

Quote:I am sick of hearing it. Nothing ever gets better, people just get used to it. Man fucking whatever. Stop gloating about your amazing lives; we get it, you got lucky. All you ever do is make me even more miserable. Be happy you aren't me, because you would be fucking nothing. I am a subhuman piece of shit, hope this post makes you feel better. You got a speeding ticket ? Bf broke up with you? Well at least you can laugh at me, right? Normies just come here to laugh, get an ego boost; they actually think they are good for giving me false hope.

Another titled "You normies wouldn't last one fucking week in my shoes":

Quote:No bullshit. You normies do not know what it's like to suffer from aspergers. You normies don't know what it's like to be incel. Most of you normies have lots going for you. I have nothing going for me. You take everything for granted, you start feeling bad some days and then you come here to laugh at Incels. Fuck off. I am in pain.

I hate to think that anyone is truly hopeless, but many of these males seem to be virulently resistant to the very idea of self-improvement, or to accepting help from anyone.

That hostility is from lack of access to sex and the market. Without access to self improvement, those that somehow found this magical thing called the red pill are the enemy. Much like how in poverty/debt stricken and less financially well off places everyone wants money yet they despise it at the same time. You having an opportunity to fuck an HB8 means you took one of the few opportunities available on this earth in the incels eyes. So not only do you not understand him from his perspective your adding to his pain.

Post: #35

Is a hardworking and successful man entitled to a wife and sex? First off I’m not talking about myself or men like Chris Chan. I’m talking about the many successful but introverted men who have no luck on the dating market. Browsing many support forms for autistic and introverted men I come across many men who have advanced degrees in subjects like chemistry and physics and who are quite successful in their career fields. Yet many claim to be virgins or have had little success with women because there introverted or struggle with social skills. So I was wondering is an introverted man who successfully build himself up entitled to a wife. Even if he refuses to play the games that modern women demand. In the past shy and awkward men who were successful would have their family arrange marriage for them. Should this practice still continue today.

Post: #36

No because of a few points

A. No one is entitled to shit. If you want my bitches pry them from my cold dead hands. They'll also then resent you for the rest of their lives. The one thing guns sadly guns can't imitate.

B. All you'll do is breed social capabilities out of men through nature and nurture. If not masculinity and physical fitness alone. Intelligent incels are the last thing I want breeding.

C. You'll just be making sexual communism happen. You want to redistribute the wealth ummm I mean bitches? FUCK YOU! Slippery slope down to an antifa's wet dream from the last place expected.

D. No one will make me like an ugly bitch. No amount of social conditioning will make a bitch like an ugly man in the same respect. The Soviets tried social conditioning by trying to changing human nature shit doesn't work.

Post: #37

delete

Post: #38

(05-11-2017 09:54 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  C. You'll just be making sexual communism happen. You want to redistribute the wealth ummm I mean bitches? FUCK YOU!

Post: #39

(05-11-2017 09:54 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  B. All you'll do is breed social capabilities out of men through nature and nurture. If not masculinity and physical fitness alone. Intelligent incels are the last thing I want breeding

How do you feel about sly and socially awkward women reproducing. At least the socially awkward men contribute something to their society. Also a awkward man might not produce an awkward child. But a socially awkward woman will. as woman more likely to pass on gene defects to their children

Post: #40

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it"

Some of us are blessed genetically (height, race, etc) and these are things you cannot change. That's life. BUT, as we know here, things you CAN change like wealth and body will only increase your chances with women. I find it hard to believe these incels are naïve to this....they know the steps they could take to improve themselves. Control what you can control. It's really hard for me to buy the "oh woe is me" card if there are ways you can fix those problems. There are even examples in the movies I'm sure these incels are familiar with. Take Thor in the Avengers. You think every girl wants him because he swings a hammer? No, it's because he's 6'3 and built like a shit brickhouse. You can't change height but you can definitely get that body.

It's all personal accountability. If you aren't motivated enough to fix the things that lower your self esteem, even when you know the 'how', then fuck you. You're worthless. I'm sorry that sounds harsh but I just cannot respect people who would rather wallow in their self pity. That's female shit. You're a man with testicles, act like it.

Post: #41

(05-11-2017 11:24 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it"

Some of us are blessed genetically (height, race, etc) and these are things you cannot change. That's life. BUT, as we know here, things you CAN change like wealth and body will only increase your chances with women. I find it hard to believe these incels are naïve to this....they know the steps they could take to improve themselves. Control what you can control. It's really hard for me to buy the "oh woe is me" card if there are ways you can fix those problems. There are even examples in the movies I'm sure these incels are familiar with. Take Thor in the Avengers. You think every girl wants him because he swings a hammer? No, it's because he's 6'3 and built like a shit brickhouse. You can't change height but you can definitely get that body.

It's all personal accountability. If you aren't motivated enough to fix the things that lower your self esteem, even when you know the 'how', then fuck you. You're worthless. I'm sorry that sounds harsh but I just cannot respect people who would rather wallow in their self pity. That's female shit. You're a man with testicles, act like it.

And hell. Take a look at any episode of the Maury show. There's a dude on there was cheating with a half dozen women
With no legs. Or look at any biker: most of them are ugly as fuck but get laid on the regular.

It's almost better to be ugly than to have a pretty boy look. There's a certain kind of "ugly" that can make you look rugged and aggressive.....and I saw firsthand that the bald, bearded, ugly tough guy look will have panties sopping wet.

Post: #42

(05-11-2017 01:00 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  And hell. Take a look at any episode of the Maury show. There's a dude on there was cheating with a half dozen women
With no legs. Or look at any biker: most of them are ugly as fuck but get laid on the regular.

It's almost better to be ugly than to have a pretty boy look. There's a certain kind of "ugly" that can make you look rugged and aggressive.....and I saw firsthand that the bald, bearded, ugly tough guy look will have panties sopping wet.

Yep. It's all about confidence and idgaf attitude. Sure, good looks and height will put you a step ahead but you can still have success with the former. There is no use whining about the things you cannot change. Every guy who is RP knows this.

These incels would rather create a website/message board and whine how no woman loves them and they don't get laid. The have no interest in improving themselves. At what point do these guys take a step back and look at themselves from the outside and think: "Wow, this is really pathetic. I'm going to change myself"? They have to want to help themselves first and foremost.

Post: #43

(05-11-2017 10:16 AM)TheWhiteWolf Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 09:54 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  B. All you'll do is breed social capabilities out of men through nature and nurture. If not masculinity and physical fitness alone. Intelligent incels are the last thing I want breeding

How do you feel about sly and socially awkward women reproducing. At least the socially awkward men contribute something to their society. Also a awkward man might not produce an awkward child. But a socially awkward woman will. as woman more likely to pass on gene defects to their children

This cartoon will answer your question:



Men are not women. Women are not men. Different standards apply. Life sucks, wear a hat.

Post: #44

(05-11-2017 10:02 AM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 09:54 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  C. You'll just be making sexual communism happen. You want to redistribute the wealth ummm I mean bitches? FUCK YOU!

You're putting words like alpha and beta men into the mouths of our ancestors. By today's standards all of our ancestors were "alpha". Hard work and struggle hardened and molded them creating positive traits that were attractive. Modern unsociable men fuck no.

The only positive trait they have is that they persistently can't adapt making them less of a hassle as genetic dead ends. Betas back then had pride dignity and drive. The only feature that modern ones have is the latter of those three in the hopes of getting something they can't get.

No family back then would let their daughter marry a social failure who couldn't leave their house or wouldn't bring their daughter honor. They were considered losers.

Post: #45

(05-11-2017 04:55 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 10:02 AM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 09:54 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  C. You'll just be making sexual communism happen. You want to redistribute the wealth ummm I mean bitches? FUCK YOU!

You're putting words like alpha and beta men into the mouths of our ancestors. By today's standards all of our ancestors were "alpha". Hard work and struggle hardened and molded them creating positive traits that were attractive. Modern unsociable men fuck no.

The only positive trait they have is that they persistently can't adapt making them less of a hassle as genetic dead ends. Betas back then had pride dignity and drive. The only feature that modern ones have is the latter of those three in the hopes of getting something they can't get.

No family back then would let their daughter marry a social failure who couldn't leave their house or wouldn't bring their daughter honor. They were considered losers.

Likewise no man would take a woman who couldn't socialize they'd be considered evolutionary dead ends as they make bad mothers

Post: #46

(05-11-2017 10:16 AM)TheWhiteWolf Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 09:54 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  B. All you'll do is breed social capabilities out of men through nature and nurture. If not masculinity and physical fitness alone. Intelligent incels are the last thing I want breeding

How do you feel about sly and socially awkward women reproducing. At least the socially awkward men contribute something to their society. Also a awkward man might not produce an awkward child. But a socially awkward woman will. as woman more likely to pass on gene defects to their children

Firstly sly and socially awkward aren't words to use in the same sentence. They're mutually exclusive.

Secondly socially awkward woman with a proud, intelligent, and average husband that has dignity will produce a child who will be taught how to best work within his means. He'll find some chick to impregnate by what's he's taught hence the importance of nurturing. A socially unintelligent father will just raise another incel.

A positive and great father figure are inspirations for sons and guiding, firm hands for daughters. Incels will NEVER fulfill that role as they have nothing socially going for them. The incel's social inexperience will poorly socialize his children and neuter them raising another stereotypical millennial child.

Post: #47

(05-11-2017 05:05 PM)TheWhiteWolf Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 04:55 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 10:02 AM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 09:54 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  C. You'll just be making sexual communism happen. You want to redistribute the wealth ummm I mean bitches? FUCK YOU!

You're putting words like alpha and beta men into the mouths of our ancestors. By today's standards all of our ancestors were "alpha". Hard work and struggle hardened and molded them creating positive traits that were attractive. Modern unsociable men fuck no.

The only positive trait they have is that they persistently can't adapt making them less of a hassle as genetic dead ends. Betas back then had pride dignity and drive. The only feature that modern ones have is the latter of those three in the hopes of getting something they can't get.

No family back then would let their daughter marry a social failure who couldn't leave their house or wouldn't bring their daughter honor. They were considered losers.

Likewise no man would take a woman who couldn't socialize they'd be considered evolutionary dead ends as they make bad mothers

You're treating men and women as the same. Women give birth, nurture, and love. Men harden, guide, and instill value. A socially incapable woman can love her child. A socially incapable man cannot guide.

Post: #48

(05-11-2017 05:10 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 05:05 PM)TheWhiteWolf Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 04:55 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 10:02 AM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 09:54 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  C. You'll just be making sexual communism happen. You want to redistribute the wealth ummm I mean bitches? FUCK YOU!

You're putting words like alpha and beta men into the mouths of our ancestors. By today's standards all of our ancestors were "alpha". Hard work and struggle hardened and molded them creating positive traits that were attractive. Modern unsociable men fuck no.

The only positive trait they have is that they persistently can't adapt making them less of a hassle as genetic dead ends. Betas back then had pride dignity and drive. The only feature that modern ones have is the latter of those three in the hopes of getting something they can't get.

No family back then would let their daughter marry a social failure who couldn't leave their house or wouldn't bring their daughter honor. They were considered losers.

Likewise no man would take a woman who couldn't socialize they'd be considered evolutionary dead ends as they make bad mothers

You're treating men and women as the same. Women give birth, nurture, and love. Men harden, guide, and instill value. A socially incapable woman can love her child. A socially incapable man cannot guide.

I assume you talk about behaviors not genes

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(05-11-2017 06:07 PM)TheWhiteWolf Wrote:  I assume you talk about behaviors not genes

Does it actually matter to you in real life whether he is or is not? For crying out loud...

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(05-11-2017 06:07 PM)TheWhiteWolf Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 05:10 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 05:05 PM)TheWhiteWolf Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 04:55 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 10:02 AM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

You're putting words like alpha and beta men into the mouths of our ancestors. By today's standards all of our ancestors were "alpha". Hard work and struggle hardened and molded them creating positive traits that were attractive. Modern unsociable men fuck no.

The only positive trait they have is that they persistently can't adapt making them less of a hassle as genetic dead ends. Betas back then had pride dignity and drive. The only feature that modern ones have is the latter of those three in the hopes of getting something they can't get.

No family back then would let their daughter marry a social failure who couldn't leave their house or wouldn't bring their daughter honor. They were considered losers.

Likewise no man would take a woman who couldn't socialize they'd be considered evolutionary dead ends as they make bad mothers

You're treating men and women as the same. Women give birth, nurture, and love. Men harden, guide, and instill value. A socially incapable woman can love her child. A socially incapable man cannot guide.

I assume you talk about behaviors not genes

It's irrelevant. You going to breed that biological imperative out or sociallly condition behavior out ala the Soviets and create your Incel wonderland? Can't exactly do either if you don't want to leave your house or have any charisma.

I guess going to start a revolution as an incel has less of a learning curve than learning game as an incel I take it.