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(03-05-2018 12:07 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I would expect to see a coalition form between the right and centrist parties centered around controlling immigration.

That is who prevailded in the election. Whether they will do anything about immigration remains to be seen. A longer standing problem in Italy is the effect of trade agreements and the Euro on jobs.
03-05-2018 01:09 PM
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Luigi De Maio, unofficially the top dog in Italy as the leader of the anti-establishment 5 Star Movement (the leading party).

31 years old, a poor kid from Naples, unemployed college dropout.

I wonder if this guy is shaking his head in disbelief every day, wondering how he just became the most powerful person in a major global economy.

I'm proud of Italy and I'm proud of Salvini, but the level of national apathy that it takes for that to happen is absurd.
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De Maio is more of a centrist/moderate than M5S party co-founder Grillo, who is outright anti-Euro and anti-EU. De Maio is against Russian sanctions and as of last year was pro Italeave. He also wants to stop the flow of immigrants and their shuttling by organized NGOs. His father was a member of MSI, the Italian equivalent of the National Front.

Berlusconi is a deep state oligarch, his mission is to steal the thunder from the anti-immigrant anti-EU Lega Nord and Fratelli d'Italia. At 14% he's too small to be running the show but probably big enough to be a spoiler.

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03-05-2018 07:43 PM
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De Maio is a centrist/right-leaning.

In terms of migrant stability, this will be great. Over 600,000 illegal migrants have arrived since 2014, and Italy simply can't cope with this level of influx.

If Italy truly does leave the EU, again, this is fantastic both economically, and culturally. The EU seeks to destroy the individual cultures of countries within the EU, by treating the countries with a one-size-fits-all policy, and attempting to debase the population with migrants.

Although the party isn't a majority, here's hoping to an Italian renaissance.
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Hungary, Poland, and Czech have resisted EU attempts to force them to take migrants, and the EU is looking at taking action against them. Not really sure what they can do.

In the case of Italy, however, departure means huge financial losses for non-Italian banking interests, so the pressure to remain will be intense; I wouldn't rule out false flag events and military action a la Lincoln.
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Eh, I'll be excited once they're out. Same with U.K, it was exciting at first but...still in.

Also, I'm highly skeptical of the longevity of any right wing party being elected in Europe. Once they get going and start making the tough decisions that aren't all cuddly and feelgood sounding, will the populace be ok with that? Or will they immediately get uncomfortable and vote them out straight away. Real change will most likely only come when they cannot practice escapism using modern comforts. I will give them some credit for voting out the lefties though, perhaps they have had enough of the African and Muslim invasion and it's interrupting their laid back Mediterranean lifestyles.
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