Post: #51

(11-21-2016 11:40 PM)SirTimothy Wrote:  NY Times already seems to be going with the "fake news" treatment on PizzaGate. I'm convinced that people who work in liberal media have no souls.

A lot of them are geniunely brainwashed. It's hard to tell where the brainwashing stops and the soullessness starts...

Post: #52

How much cred does this Dave Seaman on YouTube have? I've not heard of him before

Truth his claims of calling it before Snowden? Drones? Etc

Post: #53

(11-21-2016 02:59 PM)911 Wrote:  The "it can't be true cause someone would have talked" meme is extremely naive. Most of the country still thinks that the Clinton scandals were just right-wing BS. People are braindead, if it wasn't in the NYT or WP, it didn't happen, and everything else is just part of the vast right-wing conspiracy or basic "conspiracy theory". So it doesn't matter if people do talk or not, at least it didn't matter before, but now that a core of disbelievers have been enabled by alt media and Wikileaks, things are starting to change.

It's not a coincidence that the rush to ban "fake news" has been building up just now.

Yes. Most conspiracy theories are absolute garbage and not even worth the "paper" they're printed on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial

Remember this one? The most "expensive criminal trial in American history" involving ritualistic Satanic child sex abuse which resulted in...precisely nothing.

Vince Foster killed himself because he was a chronically mentally ill man likely suffering from side effects from the rapid induction of high doses of Trazodone by an absentee doctor. Rapid changes in psychiatric medication dose often lead to suicidal thoughts and/or actions - it says so right on the medication bottle. Yikes, there's an actual conspiracy. Too bad nobody is paying attention.

Post: #54

(11-22-2016 01:48 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

(11-21-2016 02:59 PM)911 Wrote:  The "it can't be true cause someone would have talked" meme is extremely naive. Most of the country still thinks that the Clinton scandals were just right-wing BS. People are braindead, if it wasn't in the NYT or WP, it didn't happen, and everything else is just part of the vast right-wing conspiracy or basic "conspiracy theory". So it doesn't matter if people do talk or not, at least it didn't matter before, but now that a core of disbelievers have been enabled by alt media and Wikileaks, things are starting to change.

It's not a coincidence that the rush to ban "fake news" has been building up just now.

Yes. Most conspiracy theories are absolute garbage and not even worth the "paper" they're printed on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial

Remember this one? The most "expensive criminal trial in American history" involving ritualistic Satanic child sex abuse which resulted in...precisely nothing.

For those who want a low-rent dramatisation of it, there's a TV film called Indictment: The McMartin Trial that tells the story. One of our few allies in Hollywood, James Woods, starred as the McMartins' defence lawyer. Won a few Golden Globes and Woods was nominated for an Emmy. And even then the New Borked Times was whinging about it not being a "balanced" film.

The McMartin case did have one important result: it demonstrated exactly how suggestible children can be when questioned with an agenda.

When you get down to it, conspiracy theory is a loaded term and inaccurate labelling. All conspiracy theories come down, in most cases, to two things:

(1) Circumstancial evidence that is not yet tested (and in cases like that of JFK or Patton, cannot be tested anymore); and/or
(2) Witness testimony that has not been tested and invariably is perceived as unreliable for some reason.

Note that this does not exclude the possibility that the conspiracy theory advanced is necessarily untrue. When it comes to court proceedings, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. At the end of the day, the standard of proof for criminal proceedings is beyond reasonable doubt. When it comes to circumstancial evidence, juries are frequently directed that you cannot (or should not) convict on circumstancial evidence alone if there is a reasonably possible explanation consistent with innocence that explains the evidence at hand -- because, simply put, if there's another reasonably possible explanation which might explain the circumstances, a reasonable jury must invariably have doubt about which it could be. This therefore means that, as the circumstancial evidence gets wider and impugns more individuals, it becomes easier to assemble multiple explanations consistent with innocence.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #55

@Enoch:

Post: #56

If there ever was a criminal case in this you can bet it has been thoroughly swept away with Dexter-like precision by now by the presumed offenders.

Post: #57

He's right. The problem with 4chan Autists is that they insist on telegraphing every goddamn move all over the internet. Much like that goof Posobeiac or whatever his name is that Gmac is buddies with . Its some combo of attention whoring and virtue signaling I think.

You know these pizza owner faggots don't have the most complicated passwords, why couldn't 4chan hack them before they decided to get all accusatory?

Post: #58

Those who engage in highly criminal activity such as pedophilia use secure channels. They are not casually using code in regular emails.

This is just a conspiracy theory with the "clues" being forced into the pre-defined conclusion.

Post: #59

(11-22-2016 02:36 PM)Fisto Wrote:  He's right. The problem with 4chan Autists is that they insist on telegraphing every goddamn move all over the internet. Much like that goof Posobeiac or whatever his name is that Gmac is buddies with . Its some combo of attention whoring and virtue signaling I think.

You know these pizza owner faggots don't have the most complicated passwords, why couldn't 4chan hack them before they decided to get all accusatory?

To mount an effective crowdsourced investigation it needs to be done publicly. They're not an organisation with tons of resources behind it like the FBI where they can afford to do it all behind closed doors, they need to shout from the rooftops how serious this matter is in order to get everyone motivated to investigate.

Unfortunately this scandal is being cracked down on hard. All the major research threads on 4chan have been deleted by mods, subreddits are totally compromised and Twitter posts are getting deleted (as always).

I'm sick and tired of this shit. We can't mount an effective counterattack if we keep using their platforms in order to attack them.

I think I've found a solution to this problem, please check it out here and if it's not viable let's find something together that is because we're never going to drain the swamp through the current strategy.

Post: #60

Apparently reddit shutdown their pizzagate sub

https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/

Post: #61

"Banned 43 minutes ago".

Colour me surprised.

These sick fucks (and the left as a whole) know that the only way they can win is by censoring us.

Post: #62

I live in DC and have been to Comet Pizza many, many times over the years, often with members of my family, both young and old. We play ping pong and eat pizza... and sometimes us adults might drink a beer. Nothing weird. This whole thread smacks of crazy conspiracy theory to me. You find what you're looking for, and if you're looking for pedophile code words, you can make those up from almost anything. Sometimes a pizza is just a pizza. I like mine with tomato sauce, buffalo mozzarella and lots of fresh basil. What do you make of that? I'd love to know.

Post: #63

(11-22-2016 07:40 PM)Oz. Wrote:  Apparently reddit shutdown their pizzagate sub

https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/

Looks like they have a backup plan in place.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate

Post: #64

Except those "made up" code words have been used by pedofiles on dark net child porn sites, they're listed on Wikipedia as handkerchief sex codes and even the logos in their businesses are listed by the FBI as child sex logos.

Fuck off sleeper shill.

Post: #65

(11-22-2016 07:48 PM)faceoff Wrote:  I live in DC and have been to Comet Pizza many, many times over the years, often with members of my family, both young and old. We play ping pong and eat pizza... and sometimes us adults might drink a beer. Nothing weird. This whole thread smacks of crazy conspiracy theory to me. You find what you're looking for, and if you're looking for pedophile code words, you can make those up from almost anything. Sometimes a pizza is just a pizza. I like mine with tomato sauce, buffalo mozzarella and lots of fresh basil. What do you make of that? I'd love to know.

Post: #66

(11-22-2016 07:48 PM)faceoff Wrote:  I live in DC and have been to Comet Pizza many, many times over the years, often with members of my family, both young and old. We play ping pong and eat pizza... and sometimes us adults might drink a beer. Nothing weird. This whole thread smacks of crazy conspiracy theory to me. You find what you're looking for, and if you're looking for pedophile code words, you can make those up from almost anything. Sometimes a pizza is just a pizza. I like mine with tomato sauce, buffalo mozzarella and lots of fresh basil. What do you make of that? I'd love to know.

Shill.

Post: #67

(11-22-2016 07:52 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

(11-22-2016 07:40 PM)Oz. Wrote:  Apparently reddit shutdown their pizzagate sub

https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/

Looks like they have a backup plan in place.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate

If so we're about to see Voat's most serious test of its independence if not its existence.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #68

(11-22-2016 07:48 PM)faceoff Wrote:  I live in DC and have been to Comet Pizza many, many times over the years, often with members of my family, both young and old. We play ping pong and eat pizza... and sometimes us adults might drink a beer. Nothing weird. This whole thread smacks of crazy conspiracy theory to me. You find what you're looking for, and if you're looking for pedophile code words, you can make those up from almost anything. Sometimes a pizza is just a pizza. I like mine with tomato sauce, buffalo mozzarella and lots of fresh basil. What do you make of that? I'd love to know.

The best possible explanation here is that this is a very, very clever troll, in which case, well-played. That's very clever.

The worst possible explanation here is too horrifying to consider.

Post: #69

(11-22-2016 07:48 PM)faceoff Wrote:  I live in DC and have been to Comet Pizza many, many times over the years, often with members of my family, both young and old. We play ping pong and eat pizza... and sometimes us adults might drink a beer. Nothing weird. This whole thread smacks of crazy conspiracy theory to me. You find what you're looking for, and if you're looking for pedophile code words, you can make those up from almost anything. Sometimes a pizza is just a pizza. I like mine with tomato sauce, buffalo mozzarella and lots of fresh basil. What do you make of that? I'd love to know.

Post: #70

April 2016 account, one post, first post is to claim he happens to live in Washington and has been to Comet Pizza many many times.



Seems totally legit.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #71

Is someone's trying to sweep the #Pizzagate investigation under the rug?

Post: #72

(11-22-2016 07:48 PM)faceoff Wrote:  I live in DC and have been to Comet Pizza many, many times over the years, often with members of my family, both young and old. We play ping pong and eat pizza... and sometimes us adults might drink a beer. Nothing weird. This whole thread smacks of crazy conspiracy theory to me. You find what you're looking for, and if you're looking for pedophile code words, you can make those up from almost anything. Sometimes a pizza is just a pizza. I like mine with tomato sauce, buffalo mozzarella and lots of fresh basil. What do you make of that? I'd love to know.

Post: #73

Quote:Michael Oxley @Truthchampion16
Reddit has a section called pedofriends but #pizzagate banned. Lots of perversion being covered up here and there.

5:28 PM - 22 Nov 2016

Post: #74

(11-22-2016 07:48 PM)faceoff Wrote:  I live in DC and have been to Comet Pizza many, many times over the years, often with members of my family, both young and old. We play ping pong and eat pizza... and sometimes us adults might drink a beer. Nothing weird. This whole thread smacks of crazy conspiracy theory to me. You find what you're looking for, and if you're looking for pedophile code words, you can make those up from almost anything. Sometimes a pizza is just a pizza. I like mine with tomato sauce, buffalo mozzarella and lots of fresh basil. What do you make of that? I'd love to know.

When someone goes to the trouble of making an account in order to attempt to blunt a viral public examination then you know you've hit a nerve.

Here's an interesting summary.

http://www.captainsjournal.com/2016/11/22/pizzagate/

This exerpt is something he's quoting from reddit.com/r/pizzagate posted for posterity because apparently a lot of these threads are being systematically deleted.

Quote:Is there a systemic pedophilia problem in Washington DC, as we already suspect there is one in Hollywood?

In terms of national systemicity, the statistics are eloquent. The International Centre for Missing Children (ICMEC) estimates that 8 million children are reported missing each year around the world. Of that number, according to U.S. Department of Justice research, an estimated 800,000 children will go missing in the United States alone — a rate of over 2’000 missing children each day — with 466,949 of those cases entered into the FBI’s National Crime Information Center (NCIC) database in 2014. With a current child population (aged 0 – 17) of around 74 million in the United States, the U.S. Department of Justice figures equate to around 1 child in every 92 going missing in the United States each year.

Granted a lot of these would be "junior reported missing and found at his friend's house an hour later" but many more still are genuine abduction cases. So it brings to light the question, how many times has a child been snatched and the public has simply assumed that it's a "troll under the bridge" type paedophile acting alone and successfully disposing of the child afterward, when it may actually have been a professional snatching by by an organised paedophile ring?

Point number two and possibly a far more familiar angle considering this forum's membership.



We have often debated about why billionaires like Zuckerberg would have dog-ugly wives. Considering that Twitter is aggressively censoring #pizzagate and thousands of paedophile-linked twitter accounts have been shut down almost simultaneously, is it possible that the reason Zuck and men like him have plain women is because their sexual interests lie in far darker places?

Post: #75

(11-22-2016 01:16 AM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  How much cred does this Dave Seaman on YouTube have? I've not heard of him before

Truth his claims of calling it before Snowden? Drones? Etc

From memory (& anyone is free to correct this recollection), he was a bitcoin / economy / tech. journalist with Huffington Post.
No drama at that stage.
Then he posted one or two articles referring to / questioning the status of Hillary Clinton's health two months ago & shortly afterwards, he was locked out of his specialty HuffPo account & the Hillary health articles were removed or suppressed.
Since then (& by essentially having a red-pill forced down his throat) he's realized just how fine the line is between leftist patronage & being a leftist pariah.
Personae non grata to the HuffPo.

Add in suppression of his Twitter & YouTube accounts at various moments, death threats & threats of violence (if I recall) & he's now firmly against "The Narrative" (& all that entails).
So while he became an ardent anti-Hillary voice overnight at first, he then focused a great deal on the Podesta emails in general.
Then the 'Spirit Cooking' & 'PizzaGate' emails were released...

He's been like a dog with a bone voraciously gnawing away. Although in his case, it's less pitbull & more small yappy dog.