Post: #426

^^^
Every case has its own facts. Just because there were pedos in Norway does not mean that kids are getting raped at Comet Pizza by John Podesta. That should be obvious, but you are buying same fallacy as "rape culture," "campus rape crisis."

Post: #427

(12-14-2016 01:34 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  ^^^
Every case has its own facts. Just because there were pedos in Norway does not mean that kids are getting raped at Comet Pizza by John Podesta. That should be obvious, but you are buying same fallacy as "rape culture," "campus rape crisis."

False analogy. There is that most insidious form of "rape culture" in the Clinton inner circle, more specifically, an established, solid link of child traffic out of Haiti (Laura Silsby, Jorge Puello Torres -a convicted sex trafficker-), and a close association with Pedo Island Epstein, who is closely involved in the Clinton Foundation.

You can try to discredit the whole enchilada by going after a low-hanging fruit in a large, open-source investigation which is bound to have a couple of false positives, but you can't refute the fundamentals above, which are the foundation of this case.

Post: #428

The fact that Rotherham and so many other pedo cases were covered up for years proves that "lack of evidence" means jack shit. If you guys can't understand this, just please stop posting in the thread you're cluttering it up with ignorance.

Post: #429

(12-08-2016 03:43 AM)Samseau Wrote:  Just so people understand, this is 100% pedophile:



A pedophilla case from 2013: http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3794616.htm



Notice the faggot on the left holding a little chick? That's a chicken lover. Both men are doing hard time now.

Reposting for the people in denial too lazy to read the thread. Evidence is right before your eyes, sick shit is going on with the fags at Comet Pizza.

Post: #430

All you have to do is take a look at history.

What makes you think the people in control now are better. Did they suddenly discover morality or did their control get more sophisticated while their people got more stupid.

Post: #431

There are kids who commit suicide. Some of the become so broken they can´t stand living. I´ve once read a criminal prosecution of a high profile pedophile case. One that you guys talk about here. They had actually gang raped retard kids. Blind kids, etc. From an orphanage. How will the victims come forward in this cases?

The word was there were flying jets coming from the US to this orphanage. A doctor was recruited to make tests for diseases on kids.

In liberal circles pedos are known. Everybody knows about the parties in Yachts, etc. Liberals just turn a blind eye on it because they don´t want to believe it´s real. So they pretend the nephew is really a nephew and not a kid being fucked by a strange rich old man. My disgust for liberals is coming to a point I can´t stand to be around them. They are destroying the west.

You most think of who are the people who can do this. They are the most evil people alive. The level of sickness to pull something like this must be unique. And you must remenber your dealing with this type of people. Not normal one.

As for Comet Pizza. You have coded emails. Pictures of kids with price tags. Pedo logos. Even the transfer by Soros. And your telling me there´s nothing to make the authorities move???? For fuck sake. Your literally seeing a small tip of an iceberg. For much less than this people get investigated. The fake news narrative just made the case stronger not the other way around. More if Comet Pizza was investigated and completely ilibated this conspiracy would end.

This clues are more than enough to start an investigation. The pedo symbols. In fact if wikileaks mails were given by the FBI you can be sure they know about this. And maybe wikileaks was the only way they could make this public for it to move forward.

There´s another question if this will tear down society. The high profile pedophyle case. Was released by a fight in elites. One side of a Bilderberg member leaked info about. There was some rumour the pedophile accused had banged this Bilderbeg wife. This is speculative. The gangraping of retards was 100% real.

Post: #432

I believe the biggest disconnect between people in this thread is that the word "evidence" is used somewhat loosely. Put it this way, there's nothing to bring to court here, for that the investigation would have needed to turn up something actually criminal. Unfortunately it's unlikely that any kind of incriminating evidence will turn up now that the offending parties are alarmed.

Post: #433

Just to be clear, you're accusing several men of child rape here, based on a theory framed by an anonymous poster to Reddit. This included the glossary of terms like pizza = girl, hotdog = boy and walnut = person of colour (foreign spelling of colour again noted).

If you're buying this, I don't see much difference between you and Sabrina Erdley going to U. of Virginia to hunt for fraternity rapists. Even worse, because at least Erdley was able to find a "victim."

Again, no victims, not even a theory of victims.

(12-14-2016 02:18 AM)Samseau Wrote:  The fact that Rotherham and so many other pedo cases were covered up for years proves that "lack of evidence" means jack shit. If you guys can't understand this, just please stop posting in the thread you're cluttering it up with ignorance.

"Lack of evidence means jack shit??" This is just like feminist "ignore the evidence, believe the victims" BS. Except there are no victims in Pizzagate, not even theoretical victims.

Rotherham proves nothing, because that case had victims. It was also different in that the victims were teenage girls who were getting seduced and pimped out, not raped and murdered pre-pubescent kids, which is the ridiculous Pizzagate idea.

The obverse of of Rotherham are the many false child sexual abuse cases which were brought in the USA after feminist "repressed memory" and other theories. McMartin Preschool, Fells Acres Day Care, Wenatchee, Little Rascals Day Care,etc.

(12-14-2016 02:19 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(12-08-2016 03:43 AM)Samseau Wrote:  Just so people understand, this is 100% pedophile:



A pedophilla case from 2013: http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3794616.htm



Notice the faggot on the left holding a little chick? That's a chicken lover. Both men are doing hard time now.

Reposting for the people in denial too lazy to read the thread. Evidence is right before your eyes, sick shit is going on with the fags at Comet Pizza.

That proves it!

So because there was a case of molestation in Australia involving two gay gays and a chick, that proves that the Comet Pizza guy is a molester? O-kay, ya there's only seven billion people in the world.

Alefantis has said that many of the children pictured in his Instagram were family members. So the boy might be a nephew or cousin. Unfortunate that they are getting caught up in this.

As for the #chickenlovers , if you go a Google search for it, turns out it is a common innocent hashtag for people that like to eat chicken.

Hundreds of examples of #chickenlovers here:
http://www.imgrum.net/tag/ChickenLovers
http://www.pictastar.com/tag/chickenlovers

But let's question Wade Boggs - he went by the nickname "Chicken Man."

Prediction: Because of the attention this is getting, some attention whore single mom with Munchhausen's-by-proxy will coach her kid into being a "victim."

Post: #434

Ugh. I'm so sick of this stupid merry-go round.

Person 1: This instagram is PRETTY damning.
Person 2: Definitely. This guy is a pedo.
Person 3: That guy needs to be locked up or killed.
Person 4: WAAAAH ALL PIZZAGATE CONSPIRACISTS ARE TEH VIGILANTEE PSYKOS!!!1!!11

SP5. You get the same challenge I gave to Trian. Explain both the hastag AND the profile pic of the historic pederastry figure appearing in the same post with one of your patented "could just be..." scenarios.

The lols await.

edit: just so you don't have to go looking. Unfortunately the image doesn't want to be resized.

Post: #435

Curiously, some people from Washington told Milo to back off of the Pizzagate stuff.

I'm wondering if there are machinations from certain areas to over turn and expose these guys. With Trump in power you can bet they'll go after these guys.

Post: #436

(12-13-2016 11:52 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  ..
Ya liking some Greek statue is evidence you're a pedo, ok.
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(12-13-2016 11:52 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  ..
Ya liking some Greek statue is evidence you're a pedo, ok.
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(12-13-2016 11:52 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  ..
Ya liking some Greek statue is evidence you're a pedo, ok.
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(12-13-2016 11:52 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  ..
Ya liking some Greek statue is evidence you're a pedo, ok.
...

Prior to seeing this post I was going extremely far out of my way to rationalise this particular hater as being sceptical rather than suspiciously obstructionist.

That bridge has been crossed IMO.

The only other explanation I can fathom, and the one I hope is true, is that this is some sort of massively uncharacteristic Gamma 'I am never wrong' moment.

Post: #437

(12-13-2016 10:21 PM)BassPlayaYo Wrote:  ...
To me this exactly like the narrative about the Russians influencing the election, that people are actually falling for. Where's the evidence?

There is no evidence that anyone in Washington is colluding with the Saudis or the Israelis in an improper manner.

We know there is no evidence because nobody here on this small corner of the internet can provide it.

Therefore it's only reasonable to conclude it isn't happening, and anyone making claims to the contrary based on circumstantial evidence like massive and seemingly unwarranted donations to the Clinton foundation is marking themselves as a imbecilic conspiracy theorist.

Yes, Bassplaya? Yes, SP5? Yes, Trian? Why don't you head over to the Trump thread and apply the same dogged determination to demand evidence 'beyond reasonable doubt' for every claim of dubious origin? Surely posterity demands nothing less. Or does it take an actor committing a false flag attack against Hillary before you mark all Trump supporters as pariahs?

Post: #438

(12-14-2016 06:20 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  Curiously, some people from Washington told Milo to back off of the Pizzagate stuff.

I'm wondering if there are machinations from certain areas to over turn and expose these guys. With Trump in power you can bet they'll go after these guys.

Milo as a known person is subject to defamation laws in the USA and UK. He's not an anonymous chump on the internet. If he put out the shit on this thread he'd be hammered in court. He'd be working for Alefantis and Podesta the rest of his life.

Post: #439

^ Hmmm... SP5 could you please take up Leonard on his challenge and try to explan this strange coincidence of pics? I wanna read that!

Post: #440

I like seeing Sp5's counter arguments on this thread.

For newer forum members. Sp5's career background makes him a top notch debater and a rational skeptic, especially on evidence of criminality. His arguments show how easily the ping pong pizza gaters could escape the law if they were brought to court.

I personally still am pro pizza gate, something is there that should prompt investigation, but not enough to warrant charges. My personal opinion is that they are indeed guilty but opinions are not enough to form a lynch mob.

Post: #441

(12-14-2016 08:25 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  ^ Hmmm... SP5 could you please take up Leonard on his challenge and try to explan this strange coincidence of pics? I wanna read that!

Alefantis is gay. The statue is of a good looking young guy whose legend is that he was a gay lover of the Emperor. It's not a statue of an eight year old boy.

Is it different from posting a classical statue of Persephone, who was abducted and raped? Would that you make you an advocate of rape?

SJW style shit going on here.

Again, where are the victims, what is the theory of the victims? The accuser has the burden of proof.

I am not going to try to prove a negative when there is not even a victim or a theory of victims.

You are running on emotion, not reason.

Post: #442

I'm going to throw in my two cents.

The majority of the posters on this thread are saying that there is evidence of pedophilia, and that the connections made through open source research are highly disturbing. At the same time, posters like Vicious and SP5 are saying that this evidence is circumstancial at best and none of it would be enough to convict.

These points are not mutually exclusive. Where there is smoke, there is usually fire - and there's plenty of smoke around the allegations of pedophilia among the rich and powerful.

That being said, the open source investigation has dug itself into a hole. It's turned into confirmation bias galore. A lot of facts were seized on by enthusiasts with no local knowledge, for instance. Tunnels under DuPont circle? They exist, but they're several miles away as Google Maps can confirm. A shirt with "J'aime L'Enfant"? There's an area called L'Enfant Plaza in DC, and Alefantis (who has an awkward last name courtesy of his parents) turns out to own a bar there as mentioned in one of the recent posts.

At best, in the eyes of any judge, the only thing Podesta, Alefantis, and Co are presently guilty of is disturbing tastes in art, and while it screams mental problems, that is not a crime. Barring more serious evidence such as witnesses, there's nothing to convict. While they may be guilty in your eyes, they remain untarred in the eyes of the public, as no media coverage will go against Clinton's campaign manager and other power brokers in DC before they are first discredited by the rest of the DC establishment. And Pizzagate as a whole has now been discredited in the eyes of the average person thanks to the "fake news" narrative. As scandals go, this one is on its way out.

The one real potential success of this public sensationalism journalism is if the FBI or likewise can use it as a justification to open up a real investigation. One that does not solely rely on OSINT, but has scope for investigators, search warrants, and the such, and one that gets enough support behind it to withstand political pressure. It is a lot to hope for.

But even if a full investigation does happen, there's one thing for sure - the FBI won't post daily updates on Reddit.

Post: #443

Yes, Alefantis is a gay man, a gay man using an avatar of a statue which "remain without doubt one of the most elevated and ideal monuments to pederastic love of the whole ancient world".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinous

Quote:The Emperor Hadrian spent much time during his regime touring his Empire, and arrived in Claudiopolis in June 123 [Antonious age 12], which was probably when he first encountered Antinous.[13] Given Hadrian's personality, Lambert thought it unlikely that they had become lovers at this point, instead suggesting it probable that Antinous had been selected to be sent to Italy, where he was probably schooled at the imperial paedagogium at the Caelian Hill.[14] Hadrian meanwhile had continued to tour the Empire, only returning to Italy in September 125 [Antonious age 14], when he settled into his villa at Tibur.[15] It was at some point over the following three years that Antinous became his personal favourite, for by the time he left for Greece three years later, he brought Antinous with him in his personal retinue.[15]

The story of Antonious is one of homosexual grooming of a minor. Nothing more nothing less.

Quote:Antinous has attracted attention from the gay subculture since the eighteenth century.[91]

Why does grooming of a pre- and teenage boy become a symbol of gay subculture?

We know the answer, another unpleasent truth, pedophilia is much more common with homosexuals than otherwise, it is overwhelmingly so, only to explained away that pedophiles do not have an adult sexuality or that pedophilia simply can't be a sexual orientation.

Why is the clear cut grooming of a 12 year old boy an icon for Alefantis?

Post: #444

(12-14-2016 08:48 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(12-14-2016 08:25 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  ^ Hmmm... SP5 could you please take up Leonard on his challenge and try to explan this strange coincidence of pics? I wanna read that!

Alefantis is gay. The statue is of a good looking young guy whose legend is that he was a gay lover of the Emperor. It's not a statue of an eight year old boy.

Is it different from posting a classical statue of Persephone, who was abducted and raped? Would that you make you an advocate of rape?

SJW style shit going on here.

Again, where are the victims, what is the theory of the victims? The accuser has the burden of proof.

I am not going to try to prove a negative when there is not even a victim or a theory of victims.

You are running on emotion, not reason.

Yeah, yeah, great, we're all just on a McCarthy-style witchhunt. Whatever.

Now that you've said all this, are you going to keep derailing the thread, or are you going to leave for awhile?

Post: #445

(12-14-2016 02:19 AM)Samseau Wrote:  Reposting for the people in denial too lazy to read the thread. Evidence is right before your eyes, sick shit is going on with the fags at Comet Pizza.

The evidence that you're marshaling doesn't force any logical conclusions. Chicken lover means pedophile according to two internet dictionaries. That's hardly convincing evidence.

Again, while something untoward may be happening, there are very good reasons to be skeptical. As I said earlier in the thread, if I am proven wrong, I'll put it in my signature.

Post: #446

(12-14-2016 08:48 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(12-14-2016 08:25 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  ^ Hmmm... SP5 could you please take up Leonard on his challenge and try to explan this strange coincidence of pics? I wanna read that!

Alefantis is gay. The statue is of a good looking young guy whose legend is that he was a gay lover of the Emperor. It's not a statue of an eight year old boy.

Is it different from posting a classical statue of Persephone, who was abducted and raped? Would that you make you an advocate of rape?

SJW style shit going on here.

Again, where are the victims, what is the theory of the victims? The accuser has the burden of proof.

I am not going to try to prove a negative when there is not even a victim or a theory of victims.

You are running on emotion, not reason.

It's pretty cut and dry in my opinion. Gays have this fascination with gays of the past, in some cases trying to connect themselves with great historical figures. In history, which happens to be my field and profession, there's been a push over the last 20 years to show gays in every era of history.

There's nothing particularly damning about some gay guy in DC taking a picture of a gay guy's statue from late antiquity.

Post: #447

(12-14-2016 02:18 AM)Samseau Wrote:  The fact that Rotherham and so many other pedo cases were covered up for years proves that "lack of evidence" means jack shit. If you guys can't understand this, just please stop posting in the thread you're cluttering it up with ignorance.

Disagree.

There was plenty of evidence in those other cases. It just never got reported, which isn't the same thing as a 'lack of evidence'.


Also to the points everyone is making it is worth noting that a lot of this fits into rumblings I've heard pre-election about how there's a schism between the FBI and the rest of the intelligence community.

Remember FBI anon? He claimed that Hillary and other high level officials were involved in organized pedophilia and that it was one of the forms of bribes that they accepted. Given how much of what that guy claimed turned out to be true I think it's worth considering that data point as a reasonable possiblity....again not that it's proof but if a source that is consistently correct makes a claim that ordinarily would sound crazy it's worth hearing them out.

Post: #448

(12-14-2016 09:35 AM)weambulance Wrote:  Yeah, yeah, great, we're all just on a McCarthy-style witchhunt. Whatever.

Now that you've said all this, are you going to keep derailing the thread, or are you going to leave for awhile?

Nah, I'll stay, just for you.

Hardly derailing the thread if I'm posting on-topic, unless you expect every thread to be a "safe space" for your point of view.

Again: no victims, no theory of who victims are for this alleged rape-and-murder pedo ring in the middle of the capital of the Empire.

Post: #449

You are derailing because you're deliberately saying provocative shit like accusing people of being SJWs, relying entirely on logical fallacies to "disprove" ideas, then refusing to engage direct challengers. You're trying to keep the focus on the drama you're stirring up instead of on the topic. In other words, you're deflecting us from the topic of the thread by putting the spotlight on yourself and your antics.

But that's fine. Keep displaying your epic capacity for reason and logic by constructing more strawmen than the local scarecrow crafter's guild in Halloween season.

Post: #450

(12-14-2016 09:58 AM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

(12-14-2016 08:48 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(12-14-2016 08:25 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  ^ Hmmm... SP5 could you please take up Leonard on his challenge and try to explan this strange coincidence of pics? I wanna read that!

Alefantis is gay. The statue is of a good looking young guy whose legend is that he was a gay lover of the Emperor. It's not a statue of an eight year old boy.

Is it different from posting a classical statue of Persephone, who was abducted and raped? Would that you make you an advocate of rape?

SJW style shit going on here.

Again, where are the victims, what is the theory of the victims? The accuser has the burden of proof.

I am not going to try to prove a negative when there is not even a victim or a theory of victims.

You are running on emotion, not reason.

It's pretty cut and dry in my opinion. Gays have this fascination with gays of the past, in some cases trying to connect themselves with great historical figures. In history, which happens to be my field and profession, there's been a push over the last 20 years to show gays in every era of history.

There's nothing particularly damning about some gay guy in DC taking a picture of a gay guy's statue from late antiquity.

Antinous was not a great historical figure. He's a very obscure footnote in history and the only reason we know he existed is because of the abuse and debauchery he was forced into. He figures into homosexual culture only because he is considered to be a representation of a grown man's lust for a young boy. That's it. He wasn't a great leader or politician, just Emperor Hadrian's boy-pussy.

I'd like to see someone change their Facebook picture to Mary Jo Kopechne and comment on their friends' young daughter's pictures "#pussylover". See what happens.