Post: #1

The main girl I've been seeing for a couple months now was all upset over the Trump victory.

And, in an act of true stupidity, instead of just saying "Heh, looks like it's going to be a GREAT DAY FOR AMERICA" and then telling her we should do something fun wink wink, instead...

For whatever reason, I tried to engage with her on an intellectual level and talk to her about her, and my, feelings about it.

Now she's sulking, giving me the silent treatment, being flakey, and generally behaving in the fashion of an eight year old. Interestingly, I didn't even disagree with her that it might not have been the greatest idea, and yet the result was about the same as if I'd told her The Donald was going to deport her. Interesting.

When will I ever learn? Back to the "Newbie" section for me - seems I need a refresher course.

Post: #2

"For whatever reason, I tried to engage with her on an intellectual level and talk to her about her, and my, feelings about it. "

You went beta on her, big mistake. Should have fucked her hard and good whilst wearing Trump/ MAGA gear. Best to forget her and date other girls.

Post: #3

(11-15-2016 10:42 PM)Guitarman Wrote:  "For whatever reason, I tried to engage with her on an intellectual level and talk to her about her, and my, feelings about it. "

You went beta on her, big mistake. Should have fucked her hard and good whilst wearing Trump/ MAGA gear. Best to forget her and date other girls.

Well...I am!

I find some comfort in this old blog entry:

http://www.rooshv.com/its-okay-to-be-a-beta-male

I don't think anyone can hold the line perfectly all the time, it would be an impossible and futile effort to try. The true test is probably how one handles the slips.

I think a lot of dudes would still be trying to talk it out with her right now, trying to understand what they did "wrong" and negotiate with her. Fuk dat, I didn't do anything wrong (other than momentarily forgetting what women can be about.) Let her sulk.

She'll probably swing back around. They always seem to.

Post: #4

No contact until she gets in touch, be terse and short with her.

She will apologise and beg for the XP magic in less than two weeks is my prediction.

She is only human.

Post: #5

You fell into her frame. It happens, especially the longer you're with a girl. The good thing is that you noticed it and are working towards making sure you don't make similar errors in the future.

She's pouting and being a basic bitch? Let her throw her tantrum. She'll be back. It's annoying as hell when women behave like children. Most men grovel at their feet and beg for forgiveness, giving women all the power. Guys like us know better. We let her sit in time out, and until she proves she can be a good girl, she gets none of daddy's spankings

Post: #6

No guy should ever put up with nagging, pouting, or the silent treatment. If she does that, throw her out and tell her to call you back once she snaps out of it. Then be short with her, act cold, and let her know that she can't do that.

Post: #7

Next her.
If she begs to get fucked in a few days / weeks, treat her like a distant plate.

Post: #8

Don't feel bad... I had a frame breakdown a couple weeks back and it cost me the girl also. Happens to the best of us.. even OGs!

Frame is now one of the top things on my mind to keep an strict eye on.

Post: #9

I think you did nothing wrong here. OK she's upset now or MIA. So what? Are we suppose to compromise everything we believe in just to cater to some girls? They would not do it to us.

I don't know the context of course, maybe it was wrong moment or maybe you did it too harshly, we can't know. I'm just saying that the fact that it is a good thing that you didn't politely shut up and kept it to yourself like a nice little boy.

Girls get upset about plenty of things way too much. Most of the time something triggers them, they get all emotional it, react in some stupid way, and shut down for a period of time. We stand by what we said/did and then as some time passes and they forget about it and come back like nothing happened. That's what I see usually. It's a childish response. Who cares.

This is what my GF told me once when I briefly asked why women nag and complain and get upset about some silly shit. She told me "it's very easy, we want things to be exactly the way WE want them to be. If they're not we nag whine hone and yap. It's really hard not to do it". I was lost for words then. That's women in a nutshell.

And what we do? We walk on eggshells to say the right things and the make the right steps to make sure that they are satisfied with how things are and we worry not to mess it up cause that might mean trouble for us. All they do is trying to get theirs and all we do is trying to play nice. It's just fucking ridiculous.

If she cannot deal with your worldview it's fine. She'll get over it. I'd do the same.

Post: #10

Come on over to the Dark Side. It's never to late to become an overly noxious cynic!

Here's a roissy maxim for you:

Maxim #5: Charisma before silence, silence before self-incrimination.


Since I'm surrounded by liberals, (women, and men) and I have to deal with them in rather intimate settings, I just dodge all forms of discussion on all matters political since the Trump victory.

My bandmates were bitching about it, I could tell they were fishing for a reaction from me but I didn't give it. I just chuckled and changed the subject. I'm not going to join in their powwow, but I'm not about to start an argument either because they are naive, and foolish.

They simply do not know any better. And nothing I am going to say is going to change that. If they want their eyes opened there's more than enough resources for them to come to the truth. It isn't my job to force red pills down everyone's throat, even though it's in my name.

I think the real loss of frame here was NOT that you held dissenting views and disclosed that information, it was that you addressed her as an intellectual equal. THAT IS WHAT IS MAKING HER POOSY DRY UP.

You modified / watered down your position, that's going to make her poosy dry.

You talked to her like she's on your level, that's going to make her poosy dry.

Not being a shit lord.

Just wanted to clarify the difference.

Post: #11

(11-16-2016 07:25 AM)XXL Wrote:  This is what my GF told me once when I briefly asked why women nag and complain and get upset about some silly shit. She told me "it's very easy, we want things to be exactly the way WE want them to be. If they're not we nag whine hone and yap. It's really hard not to do it". I was lost for words then. That's women in a nutshell.

The irony is that one definitely gets the sense that it's the wanting that's more enjoyable than the having.

If a woman woke up one day and suddenly everything were the way she wanted it, she likely wouldn't want it anymore.

That's probably a human thing, more than just a woman thing. They're just more extreme about it.

(11-16-2016 02:57 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  I think the real loss of frame here was NOT that you held dissenting views and disclosed that information, it was that you addressed her as an intellectual equal. THAT IS WHAT IS MAKING HER POOSY DRY UP.

The amusing thing was I don't actually hold dissenting views; at least not entirely. I know it goes against the grain here to not be a fan of The Donald, but I feel I've earned enough "cred" to have a dissenting opinion once in a while.

My reasons, however, are mostly my own and have very little to do with his supposed hatred of minorities or "grab her by the pussy" talk (note how many women finally got all riled up when they took something personally.) I've found that apparently even dissenting in the reasons is certainly enough to make me persona non grata. I'm not on team "alt-left", and here on feminist occupied territory I am learning that leaning left, but not hard enough left means I too should probably just shut up about it.

On the bright side, four years of Trump means at least four years of anxious liberal chicks who are going to be hornier than usual. It's the end of the world, and all; anything could happen so live for today!

Post: #12

(11-16-2016 03:09 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 07:25 AM)XXL Wrote:  This is what my GF told me once when I briefly asked why women nag and complain and get upset about some silly shit. She told me "it's very easy, we want things to be exactly the way WE want them to be. If they're not we nag whine hone and yap. It's really hard not to do it". I was lost for words then. That's women in a nutshell.

The irony is that one definitely gets the sense that it's the wanting that's more enjoyable than the having.

If a woman woke up one day and suddenly everything were the way she wanted it, she likely wouldn't want it anymore.

That's probably a human thing, more than just a woman thing. They're just more extreme about it.

The difference is men want want we want, until we've already had it for awhile, and get sick of it.

Women only want what they know they will never have.