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Bout time. Thumb up I'll respond when I have the energy and will to type up my side of this story and everything that I can reveal that occurred behind the scenes. #MAGA

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This was a fantastic thread. Thank You Samseau.

I only have three points to make

1. regarding

Quote:If the country is in turmoil, people will find great use in underground communications such as the RVF. But if we’re doing great, and things are going great…

…men will be busy with their jobs and families.
…men will be busy with local politics.
…men will post less and less as the forum offers less utility, except during key times like big national elections.

I'll politely disagree. I genuinely hope the best for all RVF members. However, I have seen this forum evolve over the years - especially the politics and the deep knowledge subforums have taken off. As men become more busy with jobs, families, politics we will probably establish new subforums. Someone half-joked about creating a father subforum when the #TrumpBabyBoom happens. Men will always need guidance, irrespective of how well things are.

2. Race relations concern me deeply. I'm of Indian descent and I find the recent developments in the Indian and Asian American communities troubling. The younger generations especially have moved overwhelmingly to the left. And considering the financial success these groups are, I worry about the political influence these groups will wield in a decade or two. Considering the number of Chinese-Americans caught spying for the Chinese government, I'm weary that we might see new players vying for similar roles as the Talmudic Jews. On my end, I'll be doing my best to slowly red-pill my fellow Indian brethren (the women are a lost cause considering how strongly they're attracted to feminism). It'll be a challenge though - it seems the more successful you are (the better the system works for you), the less likely you are to see the world for what it really is.

3. I think you'll do extremely well on your platform. David Seaman has a $20 weekly newsletter. Some of his YouTube videos have hit 1m+ viewers. With the membership of this forum alone, you could probably create a substantial following and charge a small fee for a newsletter.

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Thank you for this Samseau.
11-16-2016 03:28 AM
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1. Don't waste your time trying to prevent UNH resident students from registering in NH. It's not "fraud," never has been, it's the same way in every other state. Dunn v. Blumstein 405 U.S. 330 (1972). The USA is based on complete mobility of people and commerce between the states, way it is.

2. Don't get the ranting about the Jews, even I know it's become a feature (bug) of this forum. Two of Trump's kids are married to Jews. Jared Kushner is reputed to be smart and likely to be a close advisor to Trump. Jews like other ethnic groups in America are represented in all points of view on all subjects.

3. I backed Trump, but I expect things to be marginally better than Hillary, especially in foreign policy, not that he'll bring in paradise.
11-16-2016 06:45 AM
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Yo, Samseau.

Lightbulb moment regarding welfare for ghetto trash, because I love you (no homo) but demanding birth control is never going to fly.

Everyone has sympathy for a single mom with one, two, max three kids, right?

The moment she has number four, five, six, she gets chucked in the slut bin and people rightfully ask if semen addiction is a treatable disorder.

"Reasonable" middleground. Cap welfare at 3 children.

There's not a lot of votes lost on the sad plight of ultra-loose cumdumpsters doing it tough because they fucked up MORE than three times.
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Samseau,

I am unsure if i agree with your whole dialogue referencing your opinions about the state of the nation. I will give you credit: You are on the front lines and are truly a benefit to this site and those like it...like talking to a vet who really was at Omaha Beach. You want to sit for an hour and just listen.

This conversation:

Quote:Future Changes Necessary for the Republican Platform on Racial Issues

Here’s a funny story about the state of racial dialogue within the Republican party

You can have similar with anyone not just GOP.
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(11-15-2016 05:14 PM)Samseau Wrote:  [Image: zkrFH40.jpg]
Trump RV

Time to put several large signs on mine too, for some good shitlording on-the-go.

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Fireside Chats, where President Trump directly addresses the nation via Facebook live, would be the best thing ever - especially if he openly and democratically allowed people to ask him live questions.
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Samseau,

I think you should wait until president Trump has been in office for 3 to 6 months before making a final decision to reveal your identity. At that point we will really know where things stand.

Revealing your identity is a bit like losing your virginity.
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Epic post, you truly are the oracle of this forum. Rooshv and ROK have red pilled millions of men, to play attack not just defense, that's a fact. I've seen the tactics used on ROK copied by every other alt-media site and forum, Infowars even covered neo-masculinity, MikeCF on social media, this forum is the spark that lit many great ideas and definitely deserves the credit. You should go public we need more great minds articulating these ideas to the masses.
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Great, well-articulated piece Samseau.

However, in saying that....

We all know that Trump isn't a Messiah, and that he will backpedal on a significant portion of what he said. The change we're seeking won't come from Trump, but it's a good start. In all likelihood, he'll be a one-term President, and I can't see radical change coming. He's a populist, and I'd wager he backpedals on ever more of what he said regarding entitlements, immigration etc....Expecting sweeping changes is very short-sighted, and overly generous.

As for revealing your identity, I say - why not.

Unless you work for as a corporate schmuck working 9-5 in a liberal establishment, why should you fear being open about your views, and relaying them publicly?

I know free speech is under attack, but as a men, we should be able to openly discuss our thoughts and ideas, regardless of whether they'll be faced with hostility.
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(11-16-2016 12:00 PM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  Great, well-articulated piece Samseau.

However, in saying that....

We all know that Trump isn't a Messiah, and that he will backpedal on a significant portion of what he said. The change we're seeking won't come from Trump, but it's a good start. In all likelihood, he'll be a one-term President, and I can't see radical change coming. He's a populist, and I'd wager he backpedals on ever more of what he said regarding entitlements, immigration etc....Expecting sweeping changes is very short-sighted, and overly generous.

For perspective on this point, let's just remember you're of the opinion that a turnip could've beaten Hillary, and that Mr. Trump basically stumbled his way to victory in spite of himself.
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As an aside, but relevant to part II of Samseau's post, more people should listen to Peter Schiff.

He is the ONLY economist with a pop-culture reach speaking for the Austrian School. A breath of fresh air in a Western society obsessed with the Keynesian School (which leads to shills for the Democrats like Paul Krugman getting Nobel Prizes as well as endless trillion dollar debts).

I know some people here will be skeptical because he's (((Peter Schiff))), but he isn't a member of the media elite, globalist elite or Hollywood elite.

He's a bit of a doomsayer (like me) and his pessimism therefore causes him to be wrong about many things (also like me), but his analysis of the barrier facing Western economies to actual recovery warrants attention. There are severe challenges ahead but it can be done.

I also think it is always better to prepare for the worst but hope for the best. Schiff is all about that.
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Had a nice read, excellent analysis and went in to real depth. A few questions I'd like to ask:

1. You wrote about the changing demographics in the US (whites lose 2% of their share of the electorate every 4 years). Correct me if I'm wrong, but your solution to this was to get rid of welfare programs that encourage the 5 kids, 4 dads sort of mum in the hood? Whilst this is obviously a better solution than encouraging white people to breed more, do you not suspect there will be any shortfalls in this plan? Could you go in to more depth please?

2. Are you applying for a position in the Trump administration (I may have missed you writing this)?

3. The future of RVF. I think you are overestimating the social effect Trump can have in 4 years. Old habits die hard, and human nature always wins. Although I hope Trump encourages female fitness and anti-divorce laws, we are still going to see the same sexual climate for a few years at least. The forum is going to keep on growing, and I suspect it will even if the climate changes.

EDIT: Just read your bit on your anonymity. Maybe you could do a cost/benefit analysis and share it here, to give us a better idea of what it would mean to you? But ultimately you're never going to grow like Cernovich if you stay anonymous.
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From Jeff Bezos Blog:

‘A great purge?’: Twitter suspends Richard Spencer, other prominent alt-right accounts


(((Night of the long noses)))





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"Heidi Beirich, spokeswoman for the Southern Poverty Law Center, told the USA Today that the organization had previously asked Twitter to remove more than 100 accounts of white supremacists but said on Monday (before the suspensions), “They have done nothing.”





It looks like it happened just after I made my post warning you that the (((SPLC))) will seek to have your social media accounts shut down if you speak from your heart about Talmudic Jews. I expect this to ratchet up as the culture war escalates and the empire strikes back, and for it frankly to expand to the manosphere and other effective networks of resistance.

I think you would be a terrific public figure, but given your views you can most likely kiss goodbye any corporate job. I also suspect a further attack on all of our comm lines - further YouTube purges, Twitter purges, Facebook purges, etc. If Trump doesn't seize control of ICANN, I also suspect DNS itself will come under attack by the United Nations under the guise of "human rights." It will take time to build alternatives and for those alternatives to grow to our current level of reach.

(((Anita Sarkeesian))) asks UN to censor Internet to protect women:





Jigsaw's (((Jared Cohen))):

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INSIDE GOOGLE’S INTERNET JUSTICE LEAGUE AND ITS AI-POWERED WAR ON TROLLS


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Now a small subsidiary of Google named Jigsaw is about to release an entirely new type of response: a set of tools called Conversation AI. The software is designed to use machine learning to automatically spot the language of abuse and harassment—with, Jigsaw engineers say, an accuracy far better than any keyword filter and far faster than any team of human moderators. “I want to use the best technology we have at our disposal to begin to take on trolling and other nefarious tactics that give hostile voices disproportionate weight,” says Jigsaw founder and president Jared Cohen. “To do everything we can to level the playing field.”

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Cohen founded Jigsaw, which now has about 50 staffers (almost half are engineers), after a brief high-profile and controversial career in the US State Department, where he worked to focus American diplomacy on the Internet like never before. One of the moon-shot goals he’s set for Jigsaw is to end censorship within a decade, whether it comes in the form of politically motivated cyberattacks on opposition websites or government strangleholds on Internet service providers. And if that task isn’t daunting enough, Jigsaw is about to unleash Conversation AI on the murky challenge of harassment, where the only way to protect some of the web’s most repressed voices may be to selectively shut up others.

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Can you imagine if a Jigsaw spider searches your site, indexes "language linked to hate speech" as determined by Jigsaws machine learning algorithms, and reports your site to a UN human rights panel which has ICANN ban your DNS? Such a model is coming unless Donald takes control of ICANN back.

Donald Trump winning the election is the last straw and the crackdown on the web is underway. Of course new systems will develop, but they will be underground, at least initially. They will take a decade to scale.

Again, I stress taking the most anti-fragile approach possible if you decide to go public and I would suspect that you would lose a lot of money, at least for a while.

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Samseau should have opened this thread with my signature.

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It's also worth mentioning that for a time period, many members were calling on me in private to ban Samseau for his political and race opinions. It will a pile on that was persistent, but I met him twice and didn't believe he was trolling. My gut instinct told me he was legit.

Looking back, it's clear to me that he was in the process of publicly putting his world view together, and the product of that was a clear and powerful campaign to get Trump elected. I'm glad I listened to my gut.

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The Overton Window has shifted considerably in the past year and a half. Samseau opinions back then were shocking and fringe, now they're almost mainstream.

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^ What a bunch of snitchy bitches.

His opinions weren't that shocking I don't think, it is just people had become so ignorant (Tinder, porn, Instagram, jerking off, The Daily Show, and especially Craft Beer Cucks) that pragmatism seemed like mysticism to them. Still see it in liberal friends. Don't worry they will learn one day after eating each other, he who is least racist, sexist, anti-environment wins.

I hope they expanded their world view instead of feeling like a victim over internet posts (especially powerful ones that helped changed the world's trajectory).

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Samseau often takes what's in my brain and says it with far more brevity, eloquence, and brutal honesty.

Dude is a true inspiration.
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Excellent post and analysis man.

This forum has been a great influence on the lives of many men and it will be here to stay.

I will continue to do what I can to support the guys here by purchasing their products and supporting their projects. Samseau, that goes for you as well.

I'm not a prolific poster and I'm not sure we've ever spoken in a thread directly, however I've been on the forum a long time and you can be rest assured that I have gotten value from many of your posts. I have also carried the message to the outside world and converted many.

In terms of going public, I believe that is a choice that you can only make yourself. My only suggestion would be to make sure you have a 'fuck you fund' in place and like a poster above mentioned wait a bit until Trump has begun to serve.

Again, I wish you the best and will support your work in the future.
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(11-16-2016 01:53 PM)Roosh Wrote:  It's also worth mentioning that for a time period, many members were calling on me in private to ban Samseau for his political and race opinions. It will a pile on that was persistent, but I met him twice and didn't believe he was trolling. My gut instinct told me he was legit.

Looking back, it's clear to me that he was in the process of publicly putting his world view together, and the product of that was a clear and powerful campaign to get Trump elected. I'm glad I listened to my gut.


Although I do not agree with him a lot of times (and we came from ethnic backgrounds that hate each other), I would be very disappointed if he got a ban. I am glad that you listened to your gut.


And by the way, those guys that called for his ban are not better, at least in my book, than Anita Sarkesian and her degenerate ilk.

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(11-16-2016 11:18 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  Samseau,

I think you should wait until president Trump has been in office for 3 to 6 months before making a final decision to reveal your identity. At that point we will really know where things stand.

This would be the careful choice, but since when did being careful get any of us anywhere?

I'd say take the ballsy route and strike while the iron is hot.

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(11-16-2016 11:18 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  Revealing your identity is a bit like losing your virginity.
Once done, it can never be undone.

How many of us have regretted losing our virginity?

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