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But what about us men? Are we not responsive to the environment?

When we see a hot girl in booty shorts, what is our initial reaction? imagining doggy style sex with her. without even getting to know her. Maybe we would go to what are now illegal measures to have sex if such measures weren't illegal, think about it, if we are willing to have sex with her without knowing her name, do we truly care about her, or her fertility?

When we approach with a gentle opener, women respond mean, like cunts. Why? because they see us as weak. So they have no use for us.

Think about or fat shaming efforts. We see an unworthy mate and attack them. Now, it is a tad different, as we attack an unhealthy narcissist while they attack a normal nice guy, but ultimately, the actions are the same. Attack the unworthy mate, the fat girl is useless to us.

Mystery said woman are bitches because they want to scare men off, but what if that is a natural form of reproduction?

If a fat girl approaches and we could say "fuck you you're fat, lose weight!" and not have consequences, would you do it? yes, most of us would. The fact is, we are animals, all this "morality" and "free will" is a myth, we are made to survive and reproduce, and I think there is a third need, to enjoy life.

While Roosh says our nature is to respond to signals females give off? Is that it? think of cavemen, did they employ a clown strategy, or did they use brute force to fuck girls? No, I am not saying rape is okay, far from that, but maybe we need to realize our innate nature.

S+R, Survive and Reproduce. A man looks at a woman for reproduction value to pass on strong genes, but a woman looks at a man for Survival value. In Ukraine this is key, since money is scarce, you see goo looking girls with fat rich guys, but what about America? women like looks. Why? because survival needs are is already met, so it is time to meet the Replication value.

The truth is this, while the true nature of women is dark, so is the true nature of men, and we are simply slaves to our nature. Slaves to the impulses that exist within our mind.

We are animals, nothing more, nothing less. While w may be evlved, we still have primitive origiins, and here is o escaping this. whether we like it or not

Post: #2

Quick, there is still time to fix the typos, title and last line.

Post: #3

bro..did you just have a conversation with yourself??

Post: #4

I'm having trouble understanding the point of this thread. Are you asking a question, or just pontificating? What's your deal?

Post: #5

Make your point in one sentence please so that we could easily disagree with it

Post: #6

In one sentence;

The true nature of woman is abusive if not socially constrained, but the same can be said about a man.

Post: #7

(11-15-2016 10:08 PM)StephCurrybeast Wrote:  In one sentence;

The true nature of woman is abusive if not socially constrained, but the same can be said about a man.

I disagree. I don't think they are abusive constrained or not. The womans biological imperative is to extract resources for the survival of her offspring. A mans biological imperative is a numbers game to spread his seed as often as possible.

If a woman's considered abusive in her extraction of resources its because the dude is a weak male and imo this is darwinism at its finest:
1)Maybe she takes him for all he's worth and he's left to die with nothing.
2)Even if he dies he reproduced with her his offspring will live on.
3)As a single mother she tries to find a new male.
4)Well trained males with game will take her but not the offspring or won't take her at all.
5)In either case her ability to attract a male (single mom) and the survival of the kid to find a new mate (Dad is gone) takes a hit.

In either case a woman's ability to attract a strong male for extraction of resources is not cruel or abusive it just is what it is.

Even in the extraction of all resources from a beta male she now has a kid and may have ruined herself from acquiring a more appropriate mate. She has proven her genes inadequate to pick mates correctly--Darwinism says her genes deserve to be wiped from the gene pool.
The male wasn't strong enough to manage the girl and protect/provide for himself/her/kid to the point that all resources are gone. With no resources he can't attract another mate.--Darwinism says his genes deserve to be wiped from the gene pool.

At the most important level the survival of the species is the most important biological imperative. If a male is unable to spread his DNA and the female is unable to pick males that increase the survival of the offspring they....deserve to be wiped from the gene pool.

You are either equipped to reproduce or you're not. Thats my take on it all.