Post: #76

Chinatown is horrible. Full of families, asian tourist groups, and sports fanatics. I don't bother.

Post: #77

(08-21-2011 04:12 PM)Gmac Wrote:  Chinatown is horrible. Full of families, asian tourist groups, and sports fanatics. I don't bother.

True about the main spots, i.e. the street by the verizon center. But they're some spots of the beaten path that are pure money.

Post: #78

Guys I will finally come out and give my input on DC ...I live in Houston and have been going to DC every month for past 6 months...my best friend lives there in Arlington and we go all out for 2-3 nights while I am there...he just moved back from Detroit at start of the year and thinks DC is paradise comparatively....and i kinda agree....Here are my observations...and these are based on the following locales i have frequented i.e DC proper...Arlington and some Alexandria...

1. Girls are thinner in DC than most American cities. I travel for work and have been to 45 US states and every major town. In Houston(contender for fattest city every year in US)...an average woman is a 3.....in DC its probably a 5 ...

2. The flip flop academic is out of control even compared to Houston(where they have excuse of it being 110 everyday in summer). Difference is Houston girls actually get pedicures..even fat ones....I saw some nasty pieces in DC straight up....

3. Lots of plain janes in DC. which means good bodies but no tan and no make up or fashion...kinda reminded me of Colorado and UTAH ski towns in summer time...but mountain women have excuses that they are rock climbers/white river rafting guides and its a lifestyle....but if you are living in the capital and only ride a stationary bike ...whats your excuse?.....

4. Driving around during day time the view is not bad specially in Georgetown...even though most are tourists...

5. Lizards are definitely more educated/enlightened and dont have babies...they think they know it all which makes them only easier to manipulate...

6. Now for nightlife situatoin:

a. Lima...This is the reason I am posting as I had a couple of great nights at Lima....but me and my friends got there for Dinner at 8 and ate at the bar....possibly same week this photo was taken...then we went to the patio outside....i only ventured downstairs(where the dance floor is) to go to the restroom....the patio is 70%-80% females and its packed...we had a corner couch with view of street and held that position for 3 hours and just had women rotating on each side of us and plenty of 7s and 8s that we talked to and got numbers/made out. Its all sausages in that photo as all the women are on the patio trying to get fresh air and some peace. I cannot stress patio and cigeratte game enough for DC based on my experience.

b. Milanos. Ok both me and my friend are executives with expense accounts so we like this place. There is some 7 and 8 milfs there to get some dick....We got opened by a wasted group of 3 as they were leaving but they were so drunk I got turned off....it was just 9 pm on a thursday night. besides there were hordes of georgetown hotties we were eyeing on the patio....girls dressed like the bitches from the new port/huntington beach area in LA...with guys wearing pink shorts...(you get beat up in TX if you are a guy and wear pink shorts)...so this place is good...but again only patio....

c. Paolos. This is in Georgetown and same night as Milanos we picked up two waitresses from there and smoked weed with them that night...

d. Citron. Weeknight game is pretty good here...no patio but you can step out....and they have salsa lessons so ladies go there quite a bit....my friend pulls regular from here and i did too......lotsa columbianas and boricuas....but you got to get there for happy hour and stay to see situation...

e. Current. Sausagefest and bitch sheild 100%....reminded me of some places in Houston...

These are the only noteworthy ones...again I have only gotten one bang here but I dont live there and have 2-3 nights per month...but lots of fun and converations with lizards that had talent and potential for bang...

In summary I dont think DC compares to overseas or exotic destinations like Latin America or Eastern Europe but of folks coming from places like Houston Detroit KC Memphis San Antonio... pretty much anything out of west coast or east coasts hot spots....its an upgrade...

Post: #79

(09-10-2011 10:26 AM)satanova77 Wrote:  In summary I dont think DC compares to overseas or exotic destinations like Latin America or Eastern Europe but of folks coming from places like Houston Detroit KC Memphis San Antonio... pretty much anything out of west coast or east coasts hot spots....its an upgrade...

I would argue there's probably better ratios in clubs/bars in all the cities you mentioned (Detroit Memphis even Houston) than in DC. There's something about DC women/girls that makes them stay at home and not venture out to nightlife spots in the numbers that you see everywhere else. This creates real sausage fests that are only rivalled by something like San Diego, Denver, or Alaska, but not most normal American cities, regardless of how fat/trashy.

People have been saying this about DC for a long time on this forum, and I concur. For some reason it's very difficult here to get good female turnout in a regular, mainstream club. It could be that, since the median age is older in DC, older women don't like to party to the same extent as older men do. So there are all age groups of men, both young and old, who are ready to party, but a much smaller female age group, and that accounts for the discrepancy.

Or, another possibility is the presence of foreign FOB men here, mainly Latino or Indian, who are very eager to crowd the local clubs to dance, but their female equivalent (FOB women) is missing. I've never seen foreign Indian/Middle-Eastern/Hispanic chicks here, but the amount of lusty and desperate FOB men is astounding. Just last night at Ultrabar the sheer presence of those men skewed the ratio to 2:1.

I will take a trashier, but a 1:1 or below-1 crowd, to DC's frustrating sausage fests.

This is an example of what we have to deal with in DC on a regular basis. Now, this particular pic happens to be a bit extreme, but in general, the situation is very close to this, so it's somewhat accurate.

Post: #80

Avisitor you are right on ratio....I have been lucky i guess when I went out in DC.....never got to see the scene above......in Houston good ratio is never a miss...mostly in guys favor...just 200lb+ category with teenage sons thinking they deserve the best....just cuz they are nurses...and cuz their friends tell them..."girl you know you deserve bettaa"...

Post: #81

It may sound kinda funny, and I know lots of people won't buy this theory, but the time period when girls were most abundant in DC and when they were openly looking for guys, was when Bush was in office.

Of course, people in DC hate Bush, but it seems like the brief economic prosperity during 2004-2007 kept other men from coming to DC and staying in their local cities, which relieved the pressure on DC's ratio. As an added bonus, it looks like the social conservatism of Bush's era trickled down to most women and that atmosphere encouraged them to look for marriage and serious relationships, which meant that there was more eye contact from women and a more active mating environment. There was a baby boom in 2007, for those who don't know about it.

I consider myself a progressive and a liberal, but I won't exactly be saddened if a Republican wins the 2012 election, because it looks like men in DC stand to benefit from a Republican president--at least that's the pattern I've observed so far in relation to the dating market.

Post: #82

The ration for clubs in Washington is way worse than I thought. In North America a 1 : 1 ration in clubs are pretty rare(except for the exceptions like L.A.,Miami,NY). Europe is definitely a more ideal place for nightlife.

Post: #83

(09-11-2011 06:40 PM)Insignia Wrote:  The ration for clubs in Washington is way worse than I thought. In North America a 1 : 1 ration in clubs are pretty rare(except for the exceptions like L.A.,Miami,NY). Europe is definitely a more ideal place for nightlife.

Someone mentioned this before on this forum. Does anybody know why this is? It's almost like if you don't have strict door policy nightlife spots become flooded with dudes.

Do European countries have better ratios of women in general? Or do they just like going out more? I don't get it.

The sad part is DC once had favorable ratios at night even in bars with no door policy. Not so much the past few years.

Post: #84

@Rakishness

I remember someone once saying it has a lot to do with women in DC not going out as much as the guys. Women dont go out just to go out, they go out for "girls night out" or a birthday. Guys go out with the intention of just enjoying the weekend and/or getting laid, women, for the most part, dont seem to do this.

I've also heard a lot of feminists go on about not wanting to go out to bars or clubs because they dont want to be "ogled" and "approached" by guys. This rationale spreads to their friends and the pussy well drys up.

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Post: #85

(09-11-2011 07:13 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  @Rakishness

I remember someone once saying it has a lot to do with women in DC not going out as much as the guys. Women dont go out just to go out, they go out for "girls night out" or a birthday. Guys go out with the intention of just enjoying the weekend and/or getting laid, women, for the most part, dont seem to do this.

I've also heard a lot of feminists go on about not wanting to go out to bars or clubs because they dont want to be "ogled" and "approached" by guys. This rationale spreads to their friends and the pussy well drys up.

Although I can't say for sure these are the reasons why women don't go out, I can say that ABSOLUTELY this is true in DC.

I can only really speak for Arlington, but if you walk in the Whole Foods in Clarendon, or take a walk through Ballston during the day, the women are much much better.

Post: #86

There's no reason for young girls not to go out--they're horny and they like the attention. But older women, it is true, will not go out unless there's some kind of special occasion or a girls' night out. What we may be witnessing is a decrease in the young population of DC. Someone mentioned that there used to be more college-age girls in DC in the past.

Post: #87

i wouldnt be surprised if we were losing some of the younger girls due to economic factors - less jobs, higher rents, etc

Post: #88

Thats why its essential to round up your game with both online and day game....with techonology and more acceptability of online dating the clubs and bars are losing their utility...at least for now....so the traps for lizards have to be laid accordingly...follow GMAC and El Mechanico's advice on online game...

Post: #89

That bar pic is disturbingly reminiscent of Moby Dick, with keen-eyes harpooners all about, and the White Whale in the middle.

Post: #90

(09-11-2011 06:40 PM)Insignia Wrote:  In North America a 1 : 1 ration in clubs are pretty rare(except for the exceptions like L.A.,Miami,NY). Europe is definitely a more ideal place for nightlife.

I don't think this is a valid comparison because in Europe, clubs aren't meant for romance. Europeans go to clubs to get hammered and rave to the music. In America, clubs are more of a social scene.

Post: #91

I think comparing American nightlife to European nightlife is apples to oranges. European nightlife varies so much from country to country, there's no way you can make a definitive statement. Just look at Roosh's experiences between Denmark and Poland.

As far as DC ratios go, the demographic of women DC attracts (politically active, hard-working, career-oriented) probably don't have much interest in going to clubs. It makes sense. They were the girls who stayed home and studied in college or became political activists in their free-time. The girls who put on short dresses and partied til' 6AM all went to NYC or LA.

And don't ever say DC's ratio is better than Detroit. Nightlife does not get any worse than Detroit. Ever.

Post: #92

(09-10-2011 01:10 PM)AVisitor Wrote:  

(09-10-2011 10:26 AM)satanova77 Wrote:  In summary I dont think DC compares to overseas or exotic destinations like Latin America or Eastern Europe but of folks coming from places like Houston Detroit KC Memphis San Antonio... pretty much anything out of west coast or east coasts hot spots....its an upgrade...

I would argue there's probably better ratios in clubs/bars in all the cities you mentioned (Detroit Memphis even Houston) than in DC. There's something about DC women/girls that makes them stay at home and not venture out to nightlife spots in the numbers that you see everywhere else. This creates real sausage fests that are only rivalled by something like San Diego, Denver, or Alaska, but not most normal American cities, regardless of how fat/trashy.

If Houston is better than DC than I am never stepping foot on DC soil. Houston is the worst city I've ever visited for women, logistics, nightlife, culture. Bar none and I've been to some pretty brutal places.

Post: #93

(09-12-2011 01:52 PM)PBateman Wrote:  If Houston is better than DC than I am never stepping foot on DC soil. Houston is the worst city I've ever visited for women, logistics, nightlife, culture. Bar none and I've been to some pretty brutal places.

My friend who does this stuff too told me that Houston is full out terrible. I really wonder if its even worse than DC or if its better.

Post: #94

Houston is way horrible....but shit Houston is considered armpit of America anyway...built on a swamp after dumping dirt on it....totally non walkable and logistical nightmare....I always say if you can laid here you can laid anywhere....(make it sound like diddy in welcome to atlanta remix)

Post: #95

(09-11-2011 07:13 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  @Rakishness

I remember someone once saying it has a lot to do with women in DC not going out as much as the guys. Women dont go out just to go out, they go out for "girls night out" or a birthday. Guys go out with the intention of just enjoying the weekend and/or getting laid, women, for the most part, dont seem to do this.

I've also heard a lot of feminists go on about not wanting to go out to bars or clubs because they dont want to be "ogled" and "approached" by guys. This rationale spreads to their friends and the pussy well drys up.

Solid point. But what about tourists? I know this city get's a lot of tourism especially when it's warm. Do they just stay inside the hotel room? I used to go to chinatown a lot and i'd rarely meet any tourists. Chinatown by itself has tons of hotels around.
It's almost like hot chics don't even want to visit DC.

(09-13-2011 09:04 AM)satanova77 Wrote:  Houston is way horrible....but shit Houston is considered armpit of America anyway...built on a swamp after dumping dirt on it....totally non walkable and logistical nightmare....I always say if you can laid here you can laid anywhere....(make it sound like diddy in welcome to atlanta remix)

Damn Houston must be rough. I have a few friends from the south that defend DC when I complain. I didn't know it was that bad down there.

Post: #96

as far as tourists go the kind of people who come here arent bachelorette parties or girls weekends who are DTF like in SoBe or Vegas, its Middle American families who are overweight and wearing fanny packs. You may have a little bit of luck with conventions if you can find the right convention (ie pharma sales reps) but most of the conventions and conferences are going to be filled w/lawyers, bankers, dentists, doctors, and business owners, all of which are predominantly male. there may be a few girls scattered in there but i wouldnt keep my hopes up.

Post: #97

As a Houstonian. I agree, Houston is pretty bad and I have traveled quite a bit. Moving in a few weeks and cant wait. DC cant be this bad inmo. It may though have something to do with being a minority regarding Houston.

Post: #98

(09-13-2011 02:37 PM)ea303 Wrote:  As a Houstonian. I agree, Houston is pretty bad and I have traveled quite a bit. Moving in a few weeks and cant wait. DC cant be this bad inmo. It may though have something to do with being a minority regarding Houston.

What sort of minority? From which group? What type of lizards do you prefer? Do you do well with lizards from your own minority group?

Post: #99

(09-13-2011 02:59 PM)Moma Wrote:  What sort of minority? From which group? What type of lizards do you prefer? Do you do well with lizards from your own minority group?

Im black.

I like women, all women. I dont have any real preferences but African Americans are typically tough because im not religious, dont subscribe to the American dream, love to travel, and a few other things. Basically Im an oddball.

At this point I do well with all women.

Houston is tough because

1. Its racially segregated, (enough of everything that you really dont have to mix)
2. It can be tough for Minorities to go to mixed spots.
3. African Americans tend to be slightly anti social when they go out (generally see and be seen, very little socializing).
4. Its a logistical hell hole (we have freeways stacked on top of each other, and Houston is bigger then some very small states).
5. People tend to marry young and the middle is hollowed out. Plenty of 18 - 22, not much 24 - 30, and plenty of divorced 30 somethings.
6. Still the South so most chicks are looking to settle down around 26-30, they have had their fun and are looking for Mr. Right or Mr. Simp.

With that said at 30, with the right car, a nice place, decent looks, and an ok job one can do quite well pumping and dumping 30 somethings or chicks looking to settle down. A few buddies do that now, and are quite happy. The lack of culture, and what not gets old though if you have been to and desire to live in a world class city. Also its hot as balls, the only places I have been that are hotter or as hot are Singapore, Kuwait, and Nigeria.

Post: #100

(09-11-2011 07:10 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

(09-11-2011 06:40 PM)Insignia Wrote:  The ration for clubs in Washington is way worse than I thought. In North America a 1 : 1 ration in clubs are pretty rare(except for the exceptions like L.A.,Miami,NY). Europe is definitely a more ideal place for nightlife.

Someone mentioned this before on this forum. Does anybody know why this is? It's almost like if you don't have strict door policy nightlife spots become flooded with dudes.

Do European countries have better ratios of women in general? Or do they just like going out more? I don't get it.

I've thought about this a lot and I don't think there's any clear answer. Almost every spot I go to has fewer girls than guys. And this extends way beyond things like bars and clubs. I even look at things on meetup.com like volleyball games on the beach which you would think in SoCal would attract a good amount of women but even those are cockfests when you look at the member list.

It seems that women just don't like to go out as much as men. Or at least they aren't as motivated. A lot of that probably has to do with the fact that men EVERYTHING men do is to increase their chance of getting more pussy so they are just more active out in the world doing things to find it. The same pressure doesn't exist for women. That's my best guess.

...and another thing I notice just from females I've known over the years. Women going out entirely depends on their friends all coming with them. There's almost no such thing as a woman just going out to do something by herself. Some guys here routinely go to bars by themselves, but a woman doing that is almost unheard of. Most women won't even go to a restaurant by themselves, yet alone do something like travel solo which men do all the time. If she can't rally up all her girlfriends to come with her(to feel "safe" and "rescue" her if some "creeper" tries to talk to her), she'd just as soon stay home.