Post: #1

I'm curious about how you market yourselves.

One of the basic tenets of selling something is to make a virtue of necessity.
If it happens to be X, then X is great. Lemons to lemonade.

How do you turn the accidental details of your background into things that add value?

Post: #2

I'm not entirely sure what you are asking. What do you mean by "accidental details"? Like if you're black, playing up the big dick stereotype?

For example, I have very light brown hair and blue eyes. The majority of my ancestry is German. I more or less have the "Aryan look".

But I'm also 1/8th Native American. And none of my last few hookups have been white. The last three were a Mexican girl, black/Hawaiian girl, and Brazilian exchange student.

I've had a ton of luck joking about the "race card". Saying how white I am but can still call people racists because I'm 1/8th Cherokee. Joking about affirmative action, saying my brother only got accepted to a top school because he only checked the Native American box, you get the idea. I've also made jokes about how I could've been part of the Hitler Youth growing up based on my features.

Girls aren't offended and seem to be eating it up so far. It's congruent with my personality so it's easy to joke about race when you are with a girl who isn't the same ethnicity. I've noticed it makes them feel more comfortable because there is also a little bit of tension in the beginning when talking to a girl outside your race.

The whole "I'm colorblind" shtick about race is bullshit. Embrace the differences and stereotypes, accept that you come from different cultures, and enjoy it. I'm helping the Brazilian with English and she's going to teach me how to salsa.

Is that what you're asking about? Like in sales, reduce to the ridiculous. Make everything fun and you won't have any problems.

Post: #3

Not really. I mean playing up as opposed to laughing off.

Something like this:
http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2005/09/g-m...se-of.html

Quote:The first thing you must do with a Base of Operations is to find the right place. You’re going to want to be here at least 3 times a week, so having it close to your house is important. It should be high-end but not too high-end that it’s stuffy. You want a place that’s suit friendly. If you don’t have one of these restaurants in your neighborhood, then you need to move where you live. It’s important to play up the ethnic angle. If you’re a blond German guy, then a place that serves strudel and schnitzel might be good. If you’re Cuban, then a Cuban bistro is perfect. Italian trattoria’s or good French brasserie’s always work.

Accidental details: things you never chose about your background. A variation on the phrase "accident of birth."

Being able to introduce girls to things from your culture, sucking her into your world, where you are an authority and she is clueless.
Not a bad frame to operate from.
Even if you learned most of it from internet articles the previous month, by being a foreigner, one can have authority, carve out a personal sphere of influence.

Post: #4

Wrong frame of mind here.

Let's say you were gypsy and you were in Europe. There are huge negative stereotypes associated with those people in Europe.

You could play up the stereotype, and represent taboo to the girl, or you will have to minimize that to the girl. You can go in neutral, and then have her discover, gauge her reaction, and play with that.

Overall it's just weak sauce game because what's causing the attraction is basically an intrinsic trait as opposed to good game where the draw is the interaction you create with the girl, how you make her feel.

You want your behavior/personality and your effect on her to be the draw not your unchangeable external characteristics.

Remember tall dudes get dumped, and they get cheated on. The killer app for attraction isn't perpetual.

You don't want the game to be about you. Ideally you want it to be about this interplay you've created, secondarily about her.

You'll see a ton of newbie posts that are about how to brag, over the top or subtle, when the answer is "why are you focusing on yourself when the girl is right there?"

We black dudes have to deal with this constantly. Non black people have these insane ideas about what it means to be black, girls especially. (Girls include black girls as well. Plenty of black chicks think they know "black people" when they actually don't.)

Some guys play into one the stereotypes, some resist it, other guys can't fit into that at all. By playing that game essentially you're falling into the frame.

The better way to play it, is to know your shit. Bring it out sparingly and appropriately. But like being rich or whatever, it's just *a part* of who you are.

WIA

Post: #5

Generally good advice as long as you know what you pull off.

True story: I know a German guy who was able to rally a unit in the Vietnamese war that was refusing to fight. He had a strong German accent and used the stereotype from the World War 2 movies to his advantage, ordering the new NCO's to "Take that man away!" with a few men who randomly picked out and didn't like and telling the troops that "the Fuhrer would be proud of everyone!" while preparing for the right.

More or less worked. At first they thought he was exactly like the psychotic German officers from the movies and then they began respected him a few days later once they realized that his leadership had probably saved everyone's lives during the battles that followed.

Post: #6

Not sure there are any positive stereotypes of Englishmen... perhaps my accent? I have blue eyes too but that's a feature not a stereotype. That's made me realise that so is the accent. Maybe the English gentleman stereotype, although I doubt that exists anymore and the potential benefit if it did is marginal or possibly even a disadvantage.

Post: #7

I play the Spanish guy card a lot. Which is funny because I'm Spanish only on paper, I don't identify myself at all with the country or the culture. I've traveled too much for that stuff. But... no girl refuses to come over for homemade sangria!

Post: #8

Sometimes I act a little extra brash than I would abroad since I am American, that's about the closest thing.

I dance at parties also, which I suppose feeds into the stereotype that black people like to dance. I think dancing is pretty beneficial in general in terms of having fun and being social, so I'm sure I would still do it even if I were white or Asian.

Post: #9

(10-03-2016 11:02 AM)britchard Wrote:  Not sure there are any positive stereotypes of Englishmen... perhaps my accent? I have blue eyes too but that's a feature not a stereotype. That's made me realise that so is the accent. Maybe the English gentleman stereotype, although I doubt that exists anymore and the potential benefit if it did is marginal or possibly even a disadvantage.

Bad teeth.

Post: #10

(10-03-2016 03:07 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(10-03-2016 11:02 AM)britchard Wrote:  Not sure there are any positive stereotypes of Englishmen... perhaps my accent? I have blue eyes too but that's a feature not a stereotype. That's made me realise that so is the accent. Maybe the English gentleman stereotype, although I doubt that exists anymore and the potential benefit if it did is marginal or possibly even a disadvantage.

Bad teeth.

Haha! I would fit that stereotype but fortunately I had braces in my early teens so now my teeth are perfectly straight! Also, I seem to remember recently seeing that Americans actually have worse teeth due to eating more sugar, so we have that on them!

Post: #11

Do not know those feels

Post: #12

I inject my Russian culture into interactions with girls (and most people). For example, when a girls comes over, I tell her to take off her shoes because it is part of Russian custom.
1) that is a game strategy
2) it is actually a Russian custom

I wouldn't say I use stereotypes, but I do give them a taste of actual customs from a different culture.