Post: #1

Big hit translated from the native Russian.

I'm looking at the PDF's now, 2 pages in, and I hate the English Translation already. I'm hoping/guessing some of the flavor is lost in translation.

WIA

Post: #2

I have read Zelands reality transerfing, listened to his videos (both in russian) and applied it with great success. Good stuff. It works.

Post: #3

Sounds exactly like the law of attraction stripped of new-agey terms and replaced with pseudo-scientific terms for people who have a natural distaste for Eastern mysticism and prefer the language of science.
Tried to find out what transurfing is but even the guys purporting it can't seem to explain it.
Nothing new as far as I can tell. You can affect your reality, really?
It all comes down to visualization of success and manifesting that with the confidence that is required.
If you can conceive it and believe it you can achieve it. I have been telling my athletes this for years.
Any idea that can't be explained in a book and requires thousands of dollars and hours in coaching, lectures/sermons, workshops and certifications is almost always BS and I am always skeptical. It might as well be Scientology.
These people are just selling workshops and certifications to gullible people who don't have other skills to make money and are always looking for "the next big thing" to finally become successful. In these groups you will find ex-yoga teachers, personal trainers, massage therapists, Reiki practicioners, life coaches, etc. They all paid lots of money for some certification in "the next huge quantum paradigm shift" and are still broke and unsuccessful. Yet here they are again.
One could easily take the principles of Game and more broadly apply them to life in general-business, non sexual relationships, personal power, etc. call it some cool name like "transurfing", a terrible name by the way, and start charging people to learn it and charging them more to be able to teach it.
This is just multi level marketing without even manufacturing a product, just repackaging old ideas.
Kudos to the guy who is at the top making all the money but this is complete horseshit.

Post: #4

^^^

You don't need to take costly seminars to learn transerfing - most videos can be found in you tube for free at least in Russian. You can also learn from books - I bought a book for 3 euros. Still haven't read it all trough because i have listened to videos and basically know this stuff already.

The funny thing is that if you see it as some commercial plot then it is your reality and this knowledge will elude you.

You mention Game as comparison - you know there are many game denialists who also accuse Game as being scam to extract money from losers who pay for costly seminars and books.

I learned Game almost only from free material, maybe I bought some three or five cheap e-books - I haven't even bought most of the Roosh books. I am a total cheapskate when it comes to knowledge because there is so much free knowedge out there that I fell no need to pay. I learned game well and it works for me and has transformed my life for total investment of maybe 20-40$, mostly just free advice has increased the quality of my life dramatically. Maybe there are losers who pay thousands of dollars for workshops and seminars and still don't get it - but it is not my experience.

The same thing applies to transferring - maybe there is some costly workshop for losers -I don't even know - I took the free advice and bought a single book at and it worked for me.

Transferring is only superficially similar to the secret. The secret will work for some and will not work for others, because some people will do it right and others won't. Transferring will explain more in detail how to do it right, it will explain honestly limitations of this system and it will not pretend to be universal truth it will honestly recognize itself as just a model of the world that you can keep in your mind, not the way world works certainly. It just so happens that using this model of the world will bring you more success than using a model where you think that you cannot change reality and everything is determined already from big bang.

Transferring is among the most honest and practical systems of reality transcending that I know of.

We all live in the same world but I have came to conclusion that still each of us does live in his own separate reality. Some people do live in reality where Game does not work - they are smart analytical people - but you won't be able to convince them that Game works even if it totally works in your own life just like gravity does. Some people will insist that only money attracts women and they will create reality around themselves where all women are golddigers. Others will be so sure that only height and looks matter that their reality will mimic that belief. In this forum most of us players cannot understand these people and we label them trolls, but many of them are not. It is actually their reality.

Transferring explains this and transferring itself is under this rule. If you dont want it to be true then - so be it for you.

Post: #5

I quite liked the originator of these ideas in Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. Did make a big impact on my life.

Anyone got a link to an English PDF or good videos on it?

Post: #6

@Valentine

The audiobook is on YouTube.

WIA

Post: #7

@Mage thanks for the endorsement.

I dl'ed the video from YouTube, just need to strip the audio (and maybe chop it up)

Post: #8

@Mage. Seems like this would appeal to people who are fatalists and pessimistic. It goes without saying that you can massively influence our reality if one actually follows through with ideas as opposed to just having them. I am naturally attracted to this kind of reading which is why I have a pretty good idea of what it is. Your defnition essentially used the law of attraction and the secret as reference points and essentially said what I said. The law of attraction minus the new-agey terminology and replaced with terms from quantum and or classical physics.

I would be really interested, as I don't speak Russian, if one could post some coherent bullet points or steps, or a description of certain processes, the essential truths or assumptions of the mindset, etc. Kind of like the Four Noble Truths or something to that effect. If it can't be described and explained in a concise form then it sounds like a bunch of circular logic and buzzwords used to repackage said ideas. This sounds exactly like the quantum physics/law of attraction mash up that was What The Bleep Do We Know? Down The Rabbit Hole.





If you could, how would you describe Transsurfing and what is it?
I really want to know, skeptic or not.

Post: #9

I have got the impression that this is a kind of Tao Te Ching thinking style, or should I be mistaken about it...?

Post: #10

(10-03-2016 11:15 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @Mage thanks for the endorsement.

I dl'ed the video from YouTube, just need to strip the audio (and maybe chop it up)

Not sure if I understood your post - but if you need just the audio from a YouTube video, ClipConverter is a great tool: http://www.clipconverter.cc/

Just put the link to the video and select "MP3".

Post: #11

I have skimmed over his book and I have a problem with his very broad notion of a 'pendulum' as it is hard to distinguish it from my own drive or wishes or desires I am striving to realize, and his entire idea is to do exactly that: to discern one from another, and to see pendulums as external, inimical powers to be freed of. As an experiment, I have tried to think in his terms, and I have had the recurring problem: Is it me or is this a pendulum?

Otherwise there is a lot of psychological insight in his writings.

Post: #12

@WIA, give audacity a try for stripping the audio, you may like it.

Post: #13

A pendulum, a metaphore conceived in a physcial machine which needs constant energy feeding to move cyclicaly, has a Buddhist aspect to it: it is, broadly speaking, a project of desire, which does feed upon itself, living and growing with energy of human beings, but never providing a closure for them as itself it oscillates.

Where he parts with Buddhism is in his notion of active reality, a kind of living organism, which can provide you with unproblematic existence, if you know how to 'surf' it, it is not to disturb its internal structure but just to find openings in it for you to walk through. It is reality itself which gives you options, not you by shaping or creating them on your own. So, the idea is like to go through a jungle without a matchette and without getting a scratch

On the other hand, you could say that what he sees as external forces, i.e. pendulums, Buddhism sees as internal, for example in notion of 'Kleshas'. His underlying idea seems just to externalize a lot of our afflictions. But then the problem emerges: what is left for us, or of us to move through this external reality...?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleshas_%28Buddhism%29
One of the Kleshas is moha, ignorance: lack of discernment or not understanding the way of things; and this is also one of cornerstones of Zeland's system.

Post: #14

I always found interesting fact that Russia was always home of unusual but not necessary false ideas and teachings. What is more interesting is that even when the USSR was at its peak (with atheism as their official view of world) they had researched various parapsychological phenomena with which West was pretty much unfamiliar of downright hostile to the idea.
You can see today ex-hardcore Russian communists talking about Remote Viewing, or aliens and things like that. Only recently such ideas started to appear in the West.

Vadim Zeland is true representative of that "Russian view" on the nature of reality.