Post: #26

I think guys are missing the point. we can now edit out potentially deadly diseases before the kid is even conceived. Pretty fucking awesome.

Post: #27

I remember not too long ago meeting someone who basically has shithaus genes, i.e. those that manifest themselves strongly enough to get a condition named after them. Really there are no discrete "conditions". The genes as a body have just deviated from the healthly center due to a lack of what keeps them there.

This dude was just so depressing to witness. It was just so dark and sad. I've complained bitterly before about common genetic defects that I possess, and dudes like this really put it into perspective. This guy will guaranteed never fuck a woman without paying a lot for it in cash. He'll never have a good life. And yet the poor fucker will go on struggling, trying to do something to escape his born-nightmare, as he was when I met him, and will never succeed. Really badly affected me that day -- I'm firmly in the self improvement camp and seeing no-hopers like that, who are already having death knocking at their door at such a young age, was horrible.

So something needs to be done culturally. This shit, genetic degeneration, is only going to get worse. Many here complain about hypergamy, but that's one of the few things that actually hold this shit naturally at bay. If not that, and if not "3rd parent genes", what else is going to hold it in check? Gattaca certainly isn't on the horizon, and everybody in the west would rather play the "genes mean nothing" lying game.

Unfortunately, thanks to those arseholes called the Nazis, for which we can also thank for 21st century pervasive leftism, any talk of general population genetics has been purged from the table. The left will do nothing but deny, and the right will do nothing but speak about "god" and "unnatural".

Something has to be done. If not direct genetic modifications (which I also feel is wrong), then something else of some kind. Gattaca style liberal eugenics etc. Nobody deserves to live like some of these bastards.

Post: #28

^ Build Rapture

Post: #29

(09-29-2016 07:30 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  .Unfortunately, thanks to those arseholes called the Nazis, for which we can also thank for 21st century pervasive leftism, any talk of general population genetics has been purged from the table.

Yes, the Nazis. The end all discussion, word.
They taught the Israelis very well apparently.

From:Israel's uncomfortable history of racial engineering

A little noticed 2011 book by academic Etan Bloom revealed that the father of Israeli sociology and a leading Zionist of the British Mandate named Arthur Ruppin, was a believer in eugenics. In 1919 he argued that the Jewish race should be “purified” and that it was “desirable that only the racially pure come to the land.” As head of the Palestine Office of the Zionist Executive (later the Jewish Agency for Israel), he put his purity schemes into practice, arguing that Ethiopian Jews should not be permitted to immigrate, because “they have no blood connection,” and arguing that Yemenite Jews should be brought only for menial labor.

Ruppin and his fellow travelers were able to influence the Zionist movement, tragically in retrospect, to view non-Europeans as a different caste and to back up their arguments with outdated theories of eugenists. For instance, Chaim Sheba, who became director general of the Health Ministry in 1950, argued, according to a 2005 report that “a high concentration of those ill in body and soul would jeopardize the future of Jewish community in Israel. To support his argument, he used examples from genetic theories which purported to show national gene pools weakened through a lack of genetic vigilance.” Sheba was influential in temporarily preventing Cochin Jews from immigrating. The communist newspaper Davar asserted that a community “with numerous sick, decadent, unrestrained elements will not withstand the social and security test.” Haaretz writer Arieh Gledblum claimed in 1950 that North African Jews’ “primitivism is unsurpassed…. They have little talent for comprehending anything intellectual” and “lack any roots in Judaism.”

Here is an article that appeared in Haaretz, itself which details Zionisms eugenic origins which predate Hitler and WW2. I will not paste because it is rather long:
Long history of Jewish Eugenics

Also, reported in Haaretz and other publications is the, ongoing untlil the last two years, forced sterilization of African Jews in Israel by the government, which resulted in the Ethiopian Jewish birthrate in Israel decreasing by 50%.

Still more evidence of extremely recent Israeli eugenics

Of course, it is all Hitler and the Nazi's fault.

The basis of being a Jew is an of itself is a form of eugenics. One can only be considered a natural-born Jew through one's matrilineal line. So this assures that Jewish males that wish their children to not be societal outcasts or half-breeds will not mate with Goyim females.

So, in summary: Jews and Zionists have been practicing eugenics long before Hitler and long after he was dead.

Post: #30

(09-29-2016 02:53 AM)Fortis Wrote:  I think guys are missing the point. we can now edit out potentially deadly diseases before the kid is even conceived. Pretty fucking awesome.

While I still think we're messing with nature, that is pretty amazing we've come so far that we can actually do this.

But making this mainstream just means more humans and more population increase in the world.

Maybe I'm just worried about the big picture, BUT if this is purely for weeding out disease - well I can live with that.

Post: #31

(09-29-2016 02:53 AM)Fortis Wrote:  I think guys are missing the point. we can now edit out potentially deadly diseases before the kid is even conceived. Pretty fucking awesome.

I agree that's fantastic.

What happens if there is a mistake? What if they accident my create some new disorder? That freaks me out.

Aloha!

Post: #32

(09-29-2016 08:58 AM)AboveAverageJoe Wrote:  Of course, it is all Hitler and the Nazi's fault.

Don't bring your neo-nazi, Hitler sympathizing shit here, thanks. That dumb angry shit can stay in the fucking trash can of human ideologies, with all luck.

The fact of the matter, for anyone with half a brain, is that Hitler and his ilk, with their "exterminate everyone in our way or die trying because we're better" monstrous attitude towards the world, is the single and direct precipitator of the fucked up situation we are now in. If that bastard had never been born every pale-face and his kind would have a much brighter future than he has now.

It's also specifically because of that psychopath that we can no longer have a discussion about anything in the realm of eugenics, good or bad. I dare you to go ahead and further defend that bastard here.

Post: #33

(09-29-2016 04:08 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(09-29-2016 08:58 AM)AboveAverageJoe Wrote:  Of course, it is all Hitler and the Nazi's fault.

Don't bring your neo-nazi, Hitler sympathizing shit here, thanks. That dumb angry shit can stay in the fucking trash can of human ideologies, with all luck.

The fact of the matter, for anyone with half a brain, is that Hitler and his ilk, with their "exterminate everyone in our way or die trying because we're better" monstrous attitude towards the world, is the single and direct precipitator of the fucked up situation we are now in. If that bastard had never been born every pale-face and his kind would have a much brighter future than he has now.

It's also specifically because of that psychopath that we can no longer have a discussion about anything in the realm of eugenics, good or bad. I dare you to go ahead and further defend that bastard here.

Where exactly in my statement do I make any pro-Nazi or pro Hitler statements?
You are exactly your own point that the words Hitler and Nazism are used only to control narrative and prevent realistic dialogue. Perhaps you should read my post again.

Post: #34

This thread about a magic baby made by a Chinese guy wound up being a Hitler argument.

I'm not taking his side, but wow, Hitler sure got people talking.

Aloha!

Post: #35

Please people be reasonable here!

This is a huge scientific breakthrough. The disease described is Leigh syndrome,between 20 and 25 percent of Leigh syndrome cases are caused by mutations in mitochondrial DNA. A mitochondrial disease is a disease that effects cell metabolism.Mitochondria is unique in the human cell biology. Mitochondria has its own DNA distinct from the rest of human DNA.

A short primer-The endosymbiotic hypothesis suggests that mitochondria were originally prokaryotic cells, capable of implementing oxidative mechanisms that were not possible for eukaryotic cells; they became endosymbionts living inside the eukaryote. Since mitochondria have many features in common with bacteria, the theory at present is endosymbiosis.(source Wikipedia)

So basically mitochondria were always "separate"from our"main" DNA anyway. These scientist took out "faulty" DNA and replaced it with"good" DNA from a third party. Theoretically in nature this already occurred millions of years ago when prokaryotic cells became endosymbionts with eukaryotic cells within our ancestors becoming mitochondria-only now it is being replicated in a lab(it is analogous to switching out a faulty catalytic converter in a car if you get my drift ).

There is nothing sinister or nefarious afoot here, just a huge scientific breakthrough being implemented clinically for the greater good of mankind. I for one, as a Geneticist and future practicing Physician, am thrilled at the prospect of less infantile subacute necrotizing encephalomyelopathy(Leigh Disease) and possibly no more genetic mitochondrial disorders ever. If all genetic mitochondrial disease go the way of Polio, I am good with that.

In closing fuck Hitler. He was a shitty military leader whose racial supremacy beliefs made him think the Russians were an inferior race and caused him to invade the Soviet Union-right before winter..... Winter in fucking Russia. His policy on Jews made Einstein,the best physicist of the era, leave for the USA-leading to the United States getting the Nuke first. He ended up fighting a war on two fronts, just like in WW1- and he had fought in WW1 and saw how they lost because-wait for it- they fought a war on two fronts.Lastly, Mein Kampf was bad prose.

Post: #36

Can we please compile an enormous and exhaustive list of everything the Nazis did, both reasonable and unreasonable, so we can move forward in history knowing that we're doing the exact opposite of everything they stood for?

For example as sourced here: http://www.johndclare.net/Nazi_Germany2_BBCnotes.htm

Quote:• Boys were educated differently. They studied science and mathematics and took part in a great deal of physical exercise.

I never realised that teaching boys science and mathematics as well as encouraging them to exercise was LITERALLY HITLER!1!!!

Post: #37

Hey guys. Don't derail this thread like the now infamous IQ thread in which I was an angry participant. Haha. Good times.

Post: #38

My point was there was eugenics before (and after) Hitler and many countries practiced it, Australia until 1939 for instance.