Post: #1

Today I approached this FLY chick in a grocery store, only to choke severally! My question is: Do you seasoned players still choke or is choking for you guys none existence factor?

Post: #2

Um... yeah. You're not gonna come off as Casanova on every approach. I'm always trying new things in my approaches and sometimes they fail miserably. Have I got slapped or a drink thrown in my face before? No, but I've been told to fuck off once or twice. Then there's also when I drink a bit too much, and all those approaches are shitty (IMO), although I have still got laid when I was wasted.

Now mind you I don't consider myself seasoned yet, but I do have a decent amount of experience.

Post: #3

(08-05-2011 11:51 PM)CJ Wrote:  Um... yeah. You're not gonna come off as Casanova on every approach. I'm always trying new things in my approaches and sometimes they fail miserably. Have I got slapped or a drink thrown in my face before? No, but I've been told to fuck off once or twice. Then there's also when I drink a bit too much, and all those approaches are shitty (IMO), although I have still got laid when I was wasted.

Now mind you I don't consider myself seasoned yet, but I do have a decent amount of experience.

Basically that's it.

Take a guy who fucks 100 girls a year; there's definitely a #101 out there that he tried but didn't get to fuck. People (and women) have 'types'; you're the meanest and the cleanest and crazy smooth, but maybe the honey you're chopping on doesn't like an aspect of your 'look' or 'swag' or whatever.

There is no universal level for women; where 100% of straight men find Candace Swanepoel attractive and would fuck her, there is no guy that 100% of straight women would fuck, just the way it goes. Such is the transient and nebulous nature of women's sexual attraction.

And yes, sometimes you get too drunk or too desperate; this is when you get sloppy, and when you get sloppy, you usually end up going home and fucking your hand.

Post: #4

Yep, i sure sucked last night

Post: #5

I'm not sure if I qualify as a "seasoned player," but I'll chime in. I don't choke, per se. But these things do happen to me, maybe you mean one of these:

I Get Lazy or Tired
I actually have a half-typed post on "Approach Fatigue," something that I experience quite a bit. I'll have a good potential approach (usually in the form of a day-game scenario, since I'm confining myself almost exclusively to that these days), but I just don't feel like mustering all of the energy it takes to do it. After a certain number of well-executed, very creative approaches, I'm spent for the day. Some days, I don't feel like working at all.

I Pussy Out When the Logistics Are Less-Than-Good
I don't want to admit it to myself, but deep-down, there are instances where the logistics are a little scarier than I'm willing to deal with. Don't get me wrong: I'm bold as fuck. But here and there, I just don't want to try to holler at a girl while she's ringing me up for a pack of gum and there's a line of 15 angry customers behind me with overflowing shopping carts. Maybe it was possible, but I often find myself cherry-picking for good logistics (not necessarily a good thing).

I'm Not "On"
This is probably the closest thing to choking that happens to me. I gather the energy, and find just the right the angle to approach, but then end up dropping my game with weak delivery or sloppy body language. Sometimes this is borne from fatigue (already approached several times that day and felt obligated by this hottie) or from just being "off."

I've pretty much eliminated what I would consider more obvious forms of choking (having my voice crack, having nothing to say, or starting to sweat). These other things, not so much.

Do any of these sound familiar to other cats?

Post: #6

Happens all the time to me. Most often because I haven't slept enough or overindulged on dinner (I consider myself a foodie) which means my energies are shot to shit and I can hardly work up the enthusiasm. I go home when that happens.

In a recent twitter post Roosh mentioned how he sometimes feels like he's going to work when he goes out to sarge. I never want to reach that point so I try to stop my self in good time.

Post: #7

(08-06-2011 01:01 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  I'm not sure if I qualify as a "seasoned player," but I'll chime in. I don't choke, per se. But these things do happen to me, maybe you mean one of these:

I Pussy Out When the Logistics Are Less-Than-Good
I don't want to admit it to myself, but deep-down, there are instances where the logistics are a little scarier than I'm willing to deal with. Don't get me wrong: I'm bold as fuck. But here and there, I just don't want to try to holler at a girl while she's ringing me up for a pack of gum and there's a line of 15 angry customers behind me with overflowing shopping carts. Maybe it was possible, but I often find myself cherry-picking for good logistics (not necessarily a good thing).

I'm Not "On"
This is probably the closest thing to choking that happens to me. I gather the energy, and find just the right the angle to approach, but then end up dropping my game with weak delivery or sloppy body language. Sometimes this is borne from fatigue (already approached several times that day and felt obligated by this hottie) or from just being "off."

I've pretty much eliminated what I would consider more obvious forms of choking (having my voice crack, having nothing to say, or starting to sweat). These other things, not so much.

Do any of these sound familiar to other cats?

These 2 apply to me. I need to work on the delivery now...especially when approaching girls that are in groups with other guys.

Post: #8

(08-06-2011 01:01 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  I'm not sure if I qualify as a "seasoned player," but I'll chime in. I don't choke, per se. But these things do happen to me, maybe you mean one of these:

I Get Lazy or Tired
I actually have a half-typed post on "Approach Fatigue," something that I experience quite a bit. I'll have a good potential approach (usually in the form of a day-game scenario, since I'm confining myself almost exclusively to that these days), but I just don't feel like mustering all of the energy it takes to do it. After a certain number of well-executed, very creative approaches, I'm spent for the day. Some days, I don't feel like working at all.

I Pussy Out When the Logistics Are Less-Than-Good
I don't want to admit it to myself, but deep-down, there are instances where the logistics are a little scarier than I'm willing to deal with. Don't get me wrong: I'm bold as fuck. But here and there, I just don't want to try to holler at a girl while she's ringing me up for a pack of gum and there's a line of 15 angry customers behind me with overflowing shopping carts. Maybe it was possible, but I often find myself cherry-picking for good logistics (not necessarily a good thing).

I'm Not "On"
This is probably the closest thing to choking that happens to me. I gather the energy, and find just the right the angle to approach, but then end up dropping my game with weak delivery or sloppy body language. Sometimes this is borne from fatigue (already approached several times that day and felt obligated by this hottie) or from just being "off."

I've pretty much eliminated what I would consider more obvious forms of choking (having my voice crack, having nothing to say, or starting to sweat). These other things, not so much.

Do any of these sound familiar to other cats?

These happen to everyone.

One thing that helps for me is when I have a friend with me. (Not to dual swoop though).

This at least give me an "audience" to preform for. And I can make my friend laugh.

If I have an audience, it can help energize me, and make me "on".

Post: #9

I always choke...almost every time; the trick is to make sure that you start choking as soon as you feel she is about to orgasm, or cum....START CHOCKING!!!!



Mixx

Post: #10

Your game reaches a level where it's not that you choke but you make basic mistakes that show you're either not on, as Tuth said, or not focused. You look back at the approach and realize that the mistakes added up and may have cost you something further.

If you're a newb then you will "choke" quite frequently, but that's part of the learning process and nothing to get worried about.

On the bright side, when your game is advanced, your choking will still be better than 99% of other guys.

Post: #11

(08-07-2011 02:53 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Your game reaches a level where it's not that you choke but you make basic mistakes that show you're either not on, as Tuth said, or not focused. You look back at the approach and realize that the mistakes added up and may have cost you something further.

If you're a newb then you will "choke" quite frequently, but that's part of the learning process and nothing to get worried about.

On the bright side, when your game is advanced, your choking will still be better than 99% of other guys.

Choke= too much work , too many doubts...Move on , she's not worth it.

Post: #12

(08-08-2011 08:57 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  Choke= too much work , too many doubts...Move on , she's not worth it.

True dat, I tend to choke when she is a half arsed lizard.

During carnival, I was just moving around not really seeing anything worth my spitting fiyah over then suddenly I saw an American chick with a helluva donkadonkdonk!
Now, I've been trying to wean myself off of the lizards with excessive ass but let a fiend get a reward hit!

I left my friends and went for her with reckless intensity.

Post: #13

When you are just starting off with Game, its normal to choke once in a while. But, after you've done a few hundred approaches you will get over it.

Post: #14

(08-06-2011 01:01 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  I'm not sure if I qualify as a "seasoned player," but I'll chime in. I don't choke, per se. But these things do happen to me, maybe you mean one of these:

I Get Lazy or Tired
I actually have a half-typed post on "Approach Fatigue," something that I experience quite a bit. I'll have a good potential approach (usually in the form of a day-game scenario, since I'm confining myself almost exclusively to that these days), but I just don't feel like mustering all of the energy it takes to do it. After a certain number of well-executed, very creative approaches, I'm spent for the day. Some days, I don't feel like working at all.

I Pussy Out When the Logistics Are Less-Than-Good
I don't want to admit it to myself, but deep-down, there are instances where the logistics are a little scarier than I'm willing to deal with. Don't get me wrong: I'm bold as fuck. But here and there, I just don't want to try to holler at a girl while she's ringing me up for a pack of gum and there's a line of 15 angry customers behind me with overflowing shopping carts. Maybe it was possible, but I often find myself cherry-picking for good logistics (not necessarily a good thing).

I'm Not "On"
This is probably the closest thing to choking that happens to me. I gather the energy, and find just the right the angle to approach, but then end up dropping my game with weak delivery or sloppy body language. Sometimes this is borne from fatigue (already approached several times that day and felt obligated by this hottie) or from just being "off."

I've pretty much eliminated what I would consider more obvious forms of choking (having my voice crack, having nothing to say, or starting to sweat). These other things, not so much.

Do any of these sound familiar to other cats?

I wish i could write it down like this. it hits the spot !
For as a traveling dude, No logistics means not having a placa of my own to take a girl. I almost don´t feel the need to go out and "sarge" because i know i´ll have no place to take the girl when things get heated up.

Post: #15

I have a question for dry spells..... should we just push through those things anyways?

Lazy or tired.... fuck it, my approach will suffer and I will have little chance but at least say "hello" and try to start a conversation

Logistics suck.... Do it anyways, it might be really awkward as in your in a crowded bus and there are two people in between you and the girl but try anyways??

I'm not On... do the approach while Off and let that shit go as far as it will.


Also I remember Roosh saying that when you are not in a bad mood you might as well not go out because you are wasting your time and the girls. Do you think for the sake of "work" (I mean working the game) and a dryspell you should do it anyways and approach while in a not so good mood and just hope it goes away?

Post: #16

Was thinking about that stuff today^. I've been off work the past two days and have ample time to go do some day game in stores or the campus that is only 5 minutes away but for whatever reason(most likely wanking it) I just dont feel the need to go pull some bitches.

Its been a couple weeks since I last got laid, i fear a dry spell will set in if I continue doing nothing

Maybe a pact to never masturbate again would be effective

Post: #17

I haven't released in about 3 weeks, and have dates set up for the next 3 nights. There is no rational part in my head right now. Foreseeing senseless escalation. Poor girls.

Post: #18

(08-10-2011 07:16 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  Maybe a pact to never masturbate again would be effective

Well, good luck with that......


Mixx

Post: #19

How often do you do it Mixx?

Post: #20

Two weeks? Three weeks? What the hell is going on here? I will hunt down pussy relentlessly after three days.

Post: #21

(08-11-2011 02:09 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  Two weeks? Three weeks? What the hell is going on here? I will hunt down pussy relentlessly after three days.

Damn been on a dry spell for months. Well, it was my choosing and doing upon quick reflection. Fuck it, I'm sick of jerking off to porn. I always get buyer's remorse anywho.

Post: #22

did you take a vow of celibacy?