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RE: buying (rental) property in Tokyo
I have one in Shinjuku. It just came available for rent again after 7 years and we had a hard time to fill it. We wanted more rent than 7 years ago, obviously, but the rental market in Tokyo is not that decent.
For the most part, people are FAR better off renting, especially considering more places are doing away with key money.
I even suggested doing away with key money, but in the end the management company found a guy so its occupied again. The key money essentially pays for the renovations, having the place empty during this time, changing locks, etc. So its not bad, but still an old world hangover that kicks the shit out of young people.
Mortgages are cheap in Japan, which is good because real estate doesn't seem to go up. This place is covered by rent, which is essential, but cash flow is not that much. I don't even make it back to Japan much these days, but considering I could rent a place in Daikanyama for $2k, and it would cost a million to buy, its not worth it.
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| 09-07-2016 11:36 AM |
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RE: Buying (rental) property in Tokyo
(09-07-2016 11:36 AM)Laner Wrote: I have one in Shinjuku. It just came available for rent again after 7 years and we had a hard time to fill it. We wanted more rent than 7 years ago, obviously, but the rental market in Tokyo is not that decent.
For the most part, people are FAR better off renting, especially considering more places are doing away with key money.
I even suggested doing away with key money, but in the end the management company found a guy so its occupied again. The key money essentially pays for the renovations, having the place empty during this time, changing locks, etc. So its not bad, but still an old world hangover that kicks the shit out of young people.
Mortgages are cheap in Japan, which is good because real estate doesn't seem to go up. This place is covered by rent, which is essential, but cash flow is not that much. I don't even make it back to Japan much these days, but considering I could rent a place in Daikanyama for $2k, and it would cost a million to buy, its not worth it.
Thanks for the info. I was thinking specifically of getting a place to rent on AirBnB to foreigners. I live in central Tokyo so managing it wouldn't be an issue.
Tourism keeps growing, and especially with the upcoming Olympics it seems like a good time to get in. I've had both friends and family come visit here and stay in places off AirBnB that weren't that great. Feels like there's opportunity if you can find the right place/location.
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RE: Buying (rental) property in Tokyo
This is where the growth will be, you are right.
I did suggest to family that we should go the AirBnB route, but in the end having a long term renter is more hassle free.
I always check out the short term, foreigner friendly places in Tokyo, especially in the Ropponggi- Hiro-o areas. Keep them close to the embassies and foreign friendly locations it shouldn't be too hard to keep the place going.
The downside is that AirBnB is actually very cheap in Tokyo. Perhaps the best value I have ever seen. This is something to think about as well. That might be an indication that Tokyo is in a prime time for a sudden rise in rental rates. Tokyo has certainly been under the radar for quite a while, and with so much focus having been on China lately, I think Tokyo and Seoul will have a little upswing in foreign investment.
As Europe starts to become headlines of fire and crime, I think Asia, with its very high levels of personal safety and harsh immigration policy, will have to pick up some of the slack which means they are in a good position to take only the best and brightest.
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RE: Buying (rental) property in Tokyo
If you don't mind me asking, what kind of mortgage/payment did you have on that place? Currently I'm paying just over 100,000 yen a month for my place that is centrally located.
I have a rough budget of 10 million yen to spend, though could definitely go higher. By doing some basic searches and reading articles like this I'm confident I can find something decent that would appeal to travelers.
A big advantage I see is that areas like Sanya/Okubo/Kinshicho/etc are undesirable and 'dangerous' for Japanese, but not so much for foreigners. The majority of people who come here have very little concept of Tokyo outside of Shibuya, Roppongi and the main spots. So I think a big selling point would be somewhere in a good location even if the neighborhood is not so great.
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