Post: #51

(08-28-2016 02:03 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:30 PM)Gopnik Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 11:40 AM)Going strong Wrote:  So, receive a lesson in real, truthful, red-pill History: no other institution has done more to freedom of countries and people, harmonious development, global peace, arts and prosperity, like the Roman Catholic Church. It's a fact.

Would you mind expanding on this? How exactly is this a "fact"?

Simple. Without the Catholic Church, there wouldn't have been unity, progress and organization in Europe. Without unity, progress and organization in Europe, the world would have stayed a backward place (except maybe a few countries in Asia, like China, Vietnam, Thailand, or Iran, who had their own, old and enlightened civilizations)... The Catholic Church is inseparable from European History - and reciprocally -, and Europe is responsible for most of the technological and artistic blessings existing in the world, so... draw the conclusion.

Thankfully there has never been "European unity" despite tyrannical projects like the EU. In fact the EU of course we know is the old Rome...without the religious aspect...but same tyranny to impose unity on different peoples who DO NOT WANT unity. In fact the RCC is not responsible for innovation. It has been a hindrance to innovation. Just look at Catholic countries vs protestant countries....Science and rational thinking, progress, industrial and technological revolutions, FREEDOMS...culture and virtually no illiteracy. Now look at Southern Europe historically and the effects of popish catholicism are quite clear.

Post: #52

(08-28-2016 01:58 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:51 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:06 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 11:40 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-27-2016 06:30 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  the Catholic Church abducted children and MURDERED many, many people. As an institution, no other has done more damage to freedom and prosperity like the Roman Catholic Church.

The kind of damaging and hateful bullshit one hears from the dirty mouths of Femen activists. Not the serious, intelligent and documented data that one usually reads on this forum. Because, (real) History is not what MSM, Soros-funded universities, and your local Femen leader, taught you.

So, receive a lesson in real, truthful, red-pill History: no other institution has done more to freedom of countries and people, harmonious development, global peace, arts and prosperity, like the Roman Catholic Church. It's a fact.

Right, ok. So if a femen says 2+2 = 4 I have to automatically go ahead and say no, it's 5! That's the typical lack of logic you get in Spain, so no surprise here either.

I have no idea what "msm" teaches since I rarely watch TV or buy into the brainwashing...but that doesn't mean I have to accept barbarism as I see it and torturing a bull is barbaric. Sorry...but Spain is no paradise...and you sound like a hysterical chick when someone doesn't agree with her. Really. Grow up.

Reason I compare you with a Femen is, you do talk, word for word, like a Femen (quoting you, or is it Soros?: "the Catholic Church abducted children and MURDERED many, many people. As an institution, no other has done more damage to freedom and prosperity like the Roman Catholic Church "), on the Catholic church, but also on the "cruel, macho" corrida, "fascist" Rajoy, etc...

Now, back to your explanation: "So if a femen says 2+2 = 4 I have to automatically go ahead and say no, it's 5!".

Problem is, the Femen do NOT say 2+2 = 4, they say 2+2 = minus 8, and you repeat their twisted maths.

So, well, in the US they have a saying, If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck, so applying it to you: quacking like a Femen, you probably are (a sympathizer).

And now we know that you actually have Spanish roots! The plot thickens! Self-hatred in any case is very common in leftists. It's even at the core of their personality. Sad. Be proud, hombre, having Spanish blood, it's having the blood of fearless conquerors, of the heroes of Americas and the reconquista. Shed your MSM-induced shame of the greatness of your people. Shout Santiago, feel the pride of being a Spaniard!

How many times do I have to say I DO NOT watch or accept what the "msm" says? You are so tedious to deal with because you just keep repeating the same bs over and over again to see if somehow it will stick and you change my mind. It's not going to happen, you don't know Spain, you probably, MOST LIKELY don't have business experience here...and as for the self-hate...ON THE CONTRARY! Actually, it is most Spaniards who say I should NOT be proud of any heritage and instead embrace more the USA! So you see again what you are saying is just crap and you are making insane assumptions.

With regard to the Catholic Church, any serious historian will say the same. Catholic Church has been a negative force in the world, not anything positive.

By the way, the colonization of the Americas by Spain is nothing to be proud about. They were a disaster...and still are. How can anyone be proud of creating third world countries? Believe me, I used to put the Spanish flag and it was actually Spanish people who told me not to...that it didn't make sense for an "americano" to do that...so whatever. Spanish people DO NOT accept me as Spanish anyway so why bother? I learned that in the end, you really are from where you are respected and accepted as an equal or at least, left alone.

And no, I am not going to be shouting "Santiago" any time soon. I don't know if you are a troll or just simply trying to annoy me...but you really sound ridiculous. If any Spaniard did that they'd be the laugh of the town...and with good reason. What century are you living in? With that kind of attitude, of course you definitely are NOT going to be picking up women any time soon. Youd' scare them away with all that nonsense.

No hope for you son of Soros.

And by the way, very strange Spanish people you met along your way, never experienced someone with that amount of self hatred that you speak about, maybe you have been dealing all along with "gente muy rara", seems like a kind of talk that comes from Madrid feminist circles.

Post: #53

(08-28-2016 02:09 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 02:03 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:30 PM)Gopnik Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 11:40 AM)Going strong Wrote:  So, receive a lesson in real, truthful, red-pill History: no other institution has done more to freedom of countries and people, harmonious development, global peace, arts and prosperity, like the Roman Catholic Church. It's a fact.

Would you mind expanding on this? How exactly is this a "fact"?

Simple. Without the Catholic Church, there wouldn't have been unity, progress and organization in Europe. Without unity, progress and organization in Europe, the world would have stayed a backward place (except maybe a few countries in Asia, like China, Vietnam, Thailand, or Iran, who had their own, old and enlightened civilizations)... The Catholic Church is inseparable from European History - and reciprocally -, and Europe is responsible for most of the technological and artistic blessings existing in the world, so... draw the conclusion.

Thankfully there has never been "European unity" despite tyrannical projects like the EU. In fact the EU of course we know is the old Rome...without the religious aspect...but same tyranny to impose unity on different peoples who DO NOT WANT unity. In fact the RCC is not responsible for innovation. It has been a hindrance to innovation. Just look at Catholic countries vs protestant countries....Science and rational thinking, progress, industrial and technological revolutions, FREEDOMS...culture and virtually no illiteracy. Now look at Southern Europe historically and the effects of popish catholicism are quite clear.

Without the Pope(s) that you (and the Femen, another coincidence) hate so much, there would be no Europe. Without the Catholic church and the Popes, Europe would have been islamized long ago. (SJW) Protestants have been useless in the historical, global fight against islamism, and still are.

Post: #54

(08-28-2016 02:13 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:58 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:51 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:06 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 11:40 AM)Going strong Wrote:  The kind of damaging and hateful bullshit one hears from the dirty mouths of Femen activists. Not the serious, intelligent and documented data that one usually reads on this forum. Because, (real) History is not what MSM, Soros-funded universities, and your local Femen leader, taught you.

So, receive a lesson in real, truthful, red-pill History: no other institution has done more to freedom of countries and people, harmonious development, global peace, arts and prosperity, like the Roman Catholic Church. It's a fact.

Right, ok. So if a femen says 2+2 = 4 I have to automatically go ahead and say no, it's 5! That's the typical lack of logic you get in Spain, so no surprise here either.

I have no idea what "msm" teaches since I rarely watch TV or buy into the brainwashing...but that doesn't mean I have to accept barbarism as I see it and torturing a bull is barbaric. Sorry...but Spain is no paradise...and you sound like a hysterical chick when someone doesn't agree with her. Really. Grow up.

Reason I compare you with a Femen is, you do talk, word for word, like a Femen (quoting you, or is it Soros?: "the Catholic Church abducted children and MURDERED many, many people. As an institution, no other has done more damage to freedom and prosperity like the Roman Catholic Church "), on the Catholic church, but also on the "cruel, macho" corrida, "fascist" Rajoy, etc...

Now, back to your explanation: "So if a femen says 2+2 = 4 I have to automatically go ahead and say no, it's 5!".

Problem is, the Femen do NOT say 2+2 = 4, they say 2+2 = minus 8, and you repeat their twisted maths.

So, well, in the US they have a saying, If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck, so applying it to you: quacking like a Femen, you probably are (a sympathizer).

And now we know that you actually have Spanish roots! The plot thickens! Self-hatred in any case is very common in leftists. It's even at the core of their personality. Sad. Be proud, hombre, having Spanish blood, it's having the blood of fearless conquerors, of the heroes of Americas and the reconquista. Shed your MSM-induced shame of the greatness of your people. Shout Santiago, feel the pride of being a Spaniard!

How many times do I have to say I DO NOT watch or accept what the "msm" says? You are so tedious to deal with because you just keep repeating the same bs over and over again to see if somehow it will stick and you change my mind. It's not going to happen, you don't know Spain, you probably, MOST LIKELY don't have business experience here...and as for the self-hate...ON THE CONTRARY! Actually, it is most Spaniards who say I should NOT be proud of any heritage and instead embrace more the USA! So you see again what you are saying is just crap and you are making insane assumptions.

With regard to the Catholic Church, any serious historian will say the same. Catholic Church has been a negative force in the world, not anything positive.

By the way, the colonization of the Americas by Spain is nothing to be proud about. They were a disaster...and still are. How can anyone be proud of creating third world countries? Believe me, I used to put the Spanish flag and it was actually Spanish people who told me not to...that it didn't make sense for an "americano" to do that...so whatever. Spanish people DO NOT accept me as Spanish anyway so why bother? I learned that in the end, you really are from where you are respected and accepted as an equal or at least, left alone.

And no, I am not going to be shouting "Santiago" any time soon. I don't know if you are a troll or just simply trying to annoy me...but you really sound ridiculous. If any Spaniard did that they'd be the laugh of the town...and with good reason. What century are you living in? With that kind of attitude, of course you definitely are NOT going to be picking up women any time soon. Youd' scare them away with all that nonsense.

No hope for you son of Soros.

And by the way, very strange Spanish people you met along your way, never experienced someone with that amount of self hatred that you speak about, maybe you have been dealing all along with "gente muy rara", seems like a kind of talk that comes from Madrid feminist circles.

Nope....think more business classes. I dont associate with feminist circles...so wrong again Sherlock. Most "respectable" business people in Spain do NOT carry the flag with pride and try to act as cosmopolitan as possible. Ask any English teacher in Madrid and see what they say about company classes. Of course trying to be cosmopolitan and BEING cosmopolitan are two different things.

Post: #55

(08-28-2016 02:15 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 02:09 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 02:03 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:30 PM)Gopnik Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 11:40 AM)Going strong Wrote:  So, receive a lesson in real, truthful, red-pill History: no other institution has done more to freedom of countries and people, harmonious development, global peace, arts and prosperity, like the Roman Catholic Church. It's a fact.

Would you mind expanding on this? How exactly is this a "fact"?

Simple. Without the Catholic Church, there wouldn't have been unity, progress and organization in Europe. Without unity, progress and organization in Europe, the world would have stayed a backward place (except maybe a few countries in Asia, like China, Vietnam, Thailand, or Iran, who had their own, old and enlightened civilizations)... The Catholic Church is inseparable from European History - and reciprocally -, and Europe is responsible for most of the technological and artistic blessings existing in the world, so... draw the conclusion.

Thankfully there has never been "European unity" despite tyrannical projects like the EU. In fact the EU of course we know is the old Rome...without the religious aspect...but same tyranny to impose unity on different peoples who DO NOT WANT unity. In fact the RCC is not responsible for innovation. It has been a hindrance to innovation. Just look at Catholic countries vs protestant countries....Science and rational thinking, progress, industrial and technological revolutions, FREEDOMS...culture and virtually no illiteracy. Now look at Southern Europe historically and the effects of popish catholicism are quite clear.

Without the Pope(s) that you (and the Femen, another coincidence) hate so much, there would be no Europe. Without the Catholic church and the Popes, Europe would have been islamized long ago. (SJW) Protestants have been useless in the historical, global fight against islamism, and still are.

Well I mean judging by many of your statements, why this fervor to fight "Islamism"? You sound very similar to a Muslim in many of your views: cruelty against animals, you defend the imposition of the Catholic Church just like they would defend imposition of Islam...you're not that that different from them. Read what you write.

Calvinists hated the Pope...they were far from being "femen". You really are infantile.

Post: #56

(08-28-2016 02:17 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 02:13 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:58 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:51 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:06 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  Right, ok. So if a femen says 2+2 = 4 I have to automatically go ahead and say no, it's 5! That's the typical lack of logic you get in Spain, so no surprise here either.

I have no idea what "msm" teaches since I rarely watch TV or buy into the brainwashing...but that doesn't mean I have to accept barbarism as I see it and torturing a bull is barbaric. Sorry...but Spain is no paradise...and you sound like a hysterical chick when someone doesn't agree with her. Really. Grow up.

Reason I compare you with a Femen is, you do talk, word for word, like a Femen (quoting you, or is it Soros?: "the Catholic Church abducted children and MURDERED many, many people. As an institution, no other has done more damage to freedom and prosperity like the Roman Catholic Church "), on the Catholic church, but also on the "cruel, macho" corrida, "fascist" Rajoy, etc...

Now, back to your explanation: "So if a femen says 2+2 = 4 I have to automatically go ahead and say no, it's 5!".

Problem is, the Femen do NOT say 2+2 = 4, they say 2+2 = minus 8, and you repeat their twisted maths.

So, well, in the US they have a saying, If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck, so applying it to you: quacking like a Femen, you probably are (a sympathizer).

And now we know that you actually have Spanish roots! The plot thickens! Self-hatred in any case is very common in leftists. It's even at the core of their personality. Sad. Be proud, hombre, having Spanish blood, it's having the blood of fearless conquerors, of the heroes of Americas and the reconquista. Shed your MSM-induced shame of the greatness of your people. Shout Santiago, feel the pride of being a Spaniard!

How many times do I have to say I DO NOT watch or accept what the "msm" says? You are so tedious to deal with because you just keep repeating the same bs over and over again to see if somehow it will stick and you change my mind. It's not going to happen, you don't know Spain, you probably, MOST LIKELY don't have business experience here...and as for the self-hate...ON THE CONTRARY! Actually, it is most Spaniards who say I should NOT be proud of any heritage and instead embrace more the USA! So you see again what you are saying is just crap and you are making insane assumptions.

With regard to the Catholic Church, any serious historian will say the same. Catholic Church has been a negative force in the world, not anything positive.

By the way, the colonization of the Americas by Spain is nothing to be proud about. They were a disaster...and still are. How can anyone be proud of creating third world countries? Believe me, I used to put the Spanish flag and it was actually Spanish people who told me not to...that it didn't make sense for an "americano" to do that...so whatever. Spanish people DO NOT accept me as Spanish anyway so why bother? I learned that in the end, you really are from where you are respected and accepted as an equal or at least, left alone.

And no, I am not going to be shouting "Santiago" any time soon. I don't know if you are a troll or just simply trying to annoy me...but you really sound ridiculous. If any Spaniard did that they'd be the laugh of the town...and with good reason. What century are you living in? With that kind of attitude, of course you definitely are NOT going to be picking up women any time soon. Youd' scare them away with all that nonsense.

No hope for you son of Soros.

And by the way, very strange Spanish people you met along your way, never experienced someone with that amount of self hatred that you speak about, maybe you have been dealing all along with "gente muy rara", seems like a kind of talk that comes from Madrid feminist circles.

Nope....think more business classes. I dont associate with feminist circles...so wrong again Sherlock. Most "respectable" business people in Spain do NOT carry the flag with pride and try to act as cosmopolitan as possible. Ask any English teacher in Madrid and see what they say about company classes. Of course trying to be cosmopolitan and BEING cosmopolitan are two different things.

Again your making misconceptions. Not carrying the flag with pride is one thing, hating the flag is another.

I do not carry the Portuguese flag with pride, nor do I have to, I like many things about my country and hate many more, my country has done nothing for me, but certainly I am not ashamed to be born in a beautiful country and be a part of a tribe that has been proven to be brave and ingenious on the course of our history.
Citing JFK "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country".

Also I thought the "respectable" business people in Spain learnt English during their formation years...

Post: #57

(08-28-2016 01:58 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  By the way, the colonization of the Americas by Spain is nothing to be proud about. They were a disaster...and still are. How can anyone be proud of creating third world countries? Believe me, I used to put the Spanish flag and it was actually Spanish people who told me not to...that it didn't make sense for an "americano" to do that...so whatever. Spanish people DO NOT accept me as Spanish anyway so why bother? I learned that in the end, you really are from where you are respected and accepted as an equal or at least, left alone.

I wanted to check whether you indeed are a leftist militant, and probably a SJW, Baldrich, so, all I had to do is drop a line about the (Spanish) Heroes of the Americas... and of course, you had the (leftist, SJW) reaction I expected: an immediate reaction of hatred against the "bad white Spanish men who have nothing to be proud about". Of course, the Conquistadores are profoundly hated by all leftists, for what they were: male, alpha, European, warriors, brave, fearless, adventurous, sexually active. So no wonder you loathe them.

Bad, macho Spanish alpha men, shame on them:


...they just built empires with 300 soldiers and a few horses... "nothing to be proud of!!", sure...

A few things: you seem to know nothing serious about the Americas. Quoting you: "third world countries"!

Lol. Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, even Colombia, are you think third world countries!?

Far from it. Actually, the only parts of Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, and Colombia, that can be described as third-world, are those where descendants of the Spaniards (or say, Italians) are a minority. Where your Spanish ancestral blood still rules, the Americas are perfectly fine (Santiago, BsAs, Montevideo, Medellin, etc etc... you think Punta del Este and Bariloche or Vina del Mar are 3d world? lol!!)

Anyway, tell us more about your ancestry and your hatred of the Spaniards? Is it possible that you are, say, only half Spanish, and I don't know... half Bolivian? half Dominican I'd bet? Is it why you feel (rightly or not) "rejected" by the "fascist, conservative francoist" Spanish society? Why your insecurity about your Spanish roots, and this self-hatred? I bet the problem is not the "bad" Spaniards of Spain, but your own insecurity concerning your (Spanish, not-so-Spanish?) roots.

Post: #58

Going Strong you are trolling. You don't know anything about this guy, so why are you speculating about his race, and calling him a feminist?

Be a man and stick to rational argument.

Post: #59

(08-28-2016 04:01 PM)churros Wrote:  Going Strong you are trolling. You don't know anything about this guy, so why are you speculating about his race, and calling him a feminist?

Be a man and stick to rational argument.

I have heard so many dudes like Baldrich in Spain, that is why I can "speculate about his race", as you'd put it. (Also, Baldrich himself has been talking about his ancestry, with little clarity)

So, to sum it up, Baldrich sounds like the typical "non-White Latino" going to Spain, and of course complaining about the "closeness" of "fascistic" and francoist Spain, and the unbearable "Spanishness" of its inhabitants. Please.

Also, I do know enough about this guy, Baldrich, to call him a leftist SJW: he hates the Catholic Church ("which murders children", lol, wtf?), hates the Pope, hates the "cruel and macho" corrida, hates the "brutos" Basques, hates Rajoy, hates the Conquistadores, and imagines that South America is a thirld-world place because of the Spaniards "who stole the gold"... what more proofs do I need, to call him an archetypal leftist?

Also, churros, I don't reckon I liked your internet-warrior shout of "Be a man", directed to me.

Post: #60

From what I read, he seems more centrist-liberal. That doesn't equate to feminism. This corner of the internet has the unfortunate tendency to lump everything together.

I said be a man because identity politics is for bitches. You shouldn't be interested in his race, even if you disagree with him.

Post: #61

(08-28-2016 04:34 PM)churros Wrote:  From what I read, he seems more centrist-liberal. That doesn't equate to feminism. This corner of the internet has the unfortunate tendency to lump everything together.

I said be a man because identity politics is for bitches. You shouldn't be interested in his race, even if you disagree with him.

But if he is indeed a (like you say in the US) "non-White Latino", then his threads lose any general, applying-to-all, factual value. I mean, if he is a "non-White Latino", then his criticizing of Spain is not fair, it is just sour-grapes and jealousy (usual stuff among non-integrated and non-successful ones).

Also, what is this SJW stuff, churros? One has no right to be interested in other people's race, now?? I'm sorry, but knowing another poster's race allows me to analyze if his experiences would 100% apply to me, or a lot less. One's racial identity impacts one's experience when traveling, it's maybe a sad fact, but it's a fact, and therefore, knowing the OP's ethnicity allows me to better understand his experiences, and see what would, or not, apply to me if I were to travel in the same country (generally speaking, here).

Post: #62

The problem with your argument is that is that I can respond: where do you come from? And then reduce everything you say to personal interest. That's precisely what SJWs do with all this "privilege" nonsense. We should be supporting objective rational discussion, not stooping to their level.

If we're talking race dynamics for purposes of game, that's very different.

Post: #63

Oh for fuck's sake. IM NOT "latino". My gut instinct was to ignore the troll "going strong" but now it's confirmed. He is definitely trolling. I have NO "Latin American" heritage. My heritage is 100% Spain -- Catalonia/Valencia/Galicia to be more specific. I have extremely white skin. This is really pathetic that it has to come to this but there you have it churros -- that's the "intellectual" level in Spain.

Post: #64

(08-28-2016 04:22 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 04:01 PM)churros Wrote:  Going Strong you are trolling. You don't know anything about this guy, so why are you speculating about his race, and calling him a feminist?

Be a man and stick to rational argument.

I have heard so many dudes like Baldrich in Spain, that is why I can "speculate about his race", as you'd put it. (Also, Baldrich himself has been talking about his ancestry, with little clarity)

So, to sum it up, Baldrich sounds like the typical "non-White Latino" going to Spain, and of course complaining about the "closeness" of "fascistic" and francoist Spain, and the unbearable "Spanishness" of its inhabitants. Please.

Also, I do know enough about this guy, Baldrich, to call him a leftist SJW: he hates the Catholic Church ("which murders children", lol, wtf?), hates the Pope, hates the "cruel and macho" corrida, hates the "brutos" Basques, hates Rajoy, hates the Conquistadores, and imagines that South America is a thirld-world place because of the Spaniards "who stole the gold"... what more proofs do I need, to call him an archetypal leftist?

Also, churros, I don't reckon I liked your internet-warrior shout of "Be a man", directed to me.

I'm probably a lot whiter than you, Bitch. I have NO Latin American heritage. You can meet me whenever you want...you'd probably be asked for papers by Spanish police (who by the way, are EXTREMELY racist).

Post: #65

(08-28-2016 05:02 PM)churros Wrote:  The problem with your argument is that is that I can respond: where do you come from? And then reduce everything you say to personal interest. That's precisely what SJWs do with all this "privilege" nonsense. We should be supporting objective rational discussion, not stooping to their level.

If we're talking race dynamics for purposes of game, that's very different.

Ok, you want some "post-racial" stuff? Here's one: we men of all races agree that Spanish women, as a whole and in general, are not worth the time necessary to game them, and are nothing exceptional to begin with.

I think on this we all agree: for men of all races, Spain is a bad place to pursue and seduce women. But for everything else, everything, Spain is great.

(Also, contrarily to what Baldrich said, Spanish women being kinda worthless to game, has nothing to do with "repressing catholicism"; it has all to do with 75% of them being not-that-beautiful, there's no need to look for religious or social reasons on this one...)

Post: #66

(08-28-2016 03:43 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:58 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  By the way, the colonization of the Americas by Spain is nothing to be proud about. They were a disaster...and still are. How can anyone be proud of creating third world countries? Believe me, I used to put the Spanish flag and it was actually Spanish people who told me not to...that it didn't make sense for an "americano" to do that...so whatever. Spanish people DO NOT accept me as Spanish anyway so why bother? I learned that in the end, you really are from where you are respected and accepted as an equal or at least, left alone.

I wanted to check whether you indeed are a leftist militant, and probably a SJW, Baldrich, so, all I had to do is drop a line about the (Spanish) Heroes of the Americas... and of course, you had the (leftist, SJW) reaction I expected: an immediate reaction of hatred against the "bad white Spanish men who have nothing to be proud about". Of course, the Conquistadores are profoundly hated by all leftists, for what they were: male, alpha, European, warriors, brave, fearless, adventurous, sexually active. So no wonder you loathe them.

Bad, macho Spanish alpha men, shame on them:


...they just built empires with 300 soldiers and a few horses... "nothing to be proud of!!", sure...

A few things: you seem to know nothing serious about the Americas. Quoting you: "third world countries"!

Lol. Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, even Colombia, are you think third world countries!?

Far from it. Actually, the only parts of Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, and Colombia, that can be described as third-world, are those where descendants of the Spaniards (or say, Italians) are a minority. Where your Spanish ancestral blood still rules, the Americas are perfectly fine (Santiago, BsAs, Montevideo, Medellin, etc etc... you think Punta del Este and Bariloche or Vina del Mar are 3d world? lol!!)

Anyway, tell us more about your ancestry and your hatred of the Spaniards? Is it possible that you are, say, only half Spanish, and I don't know... half Bolivian? half Dominican I'd bet? Is it why you feel (rightly or not) "rejected" by the "fascist, conservative francoist" Spanish society? Why your insecurity about your Spanish roots, and this self-hatred? I bet the problem is not the "bad" Spaniards of Spain, but your own insecurity concerning your (Spanish, not-so-Spanish?) roots.

I'm done talking to you. I'm not in the habit of debating with kids. Nope, not half Spanish...I'm 100% GALICIAN + VALENCIAN/CATALAN. Probably, I'm a lot whiter than you...but then again. I didn't expect any intellectual discussion from a troll like you.

Post: #67

(08-28-2016 03:43 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:58 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  By the way, the colonization of the Americas by Spain is nothing to be proud about. They were a disaster...and still are. How can anyone be proud of creating third world countries? Believe me, I used to put the Spanish flag and it was actually Spanish people who told me not to...that it didn't make sense for an "americano" to do that...so whatever. Spanish people DO NOT accept me as Spanish anyway so why bother? I learned that in the end, you really are from where you are respected and accepted as an equal or at least, left alone.

I wanted to check whether you indeed are a leftist militant, and probably a SJW, Baldrich, so, all I had to do is drop a line about the (Spanish) Heroes of the Americas... and of course, you had the (leftist, SJW) reaction I expected: an immediate reaction of hatred against the "bad white Spanish men who have nothing to be proud about". Of course, the Conquistadores are profoundly hated by all leftists, for what they were: male, alpha, European, warriors, brave, fearless, adventurous, sexually active. So no wonder you loathe them.

Bad, macho Spanish alpha men, shame on them:


...they just built empires with 300 soldiers and a few horses... "nothing to be proud of!!", sure...

A few things: you seem to know nothing serious about the Americas. Quoting you: "third world countries"!

Lol. Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, even Colombia, are you think third world countries!?

Far from it. Actually, the only parts of Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, and Colombia, that can be described as third-world, are those where descendants of the Spaniards (or say, Italians) are a minority. Where your Spanish ancestral blood still rules, the Americas are perfectly fine (Santiago, BsAs, Montevideo, Medellin, etc etc... you think Punta del Este and Bariloche or Vina del Mar are 3d world? lol!!)

Anyway, tell us more about your ancestry and your hatred of the Spaniards? Is it possible that you are, say, only half Spanish, and I don't know... half Bolivian? half Dominican I'd bet? Is it why you feel (rightly or not) "rejected" by the "fascist, conservative francoist" Spanish society? Why your insecurity about your Spanish roots, and this self-hatred? I bet the problem is not the "bad" Spaniards of Spain, but your own insecurity concerning your (Spanish, not-so-Spanish?) roots.

Yep, Colombia is definitely third world LOL. If you don't think so that says a lot about you, not me. Argentina...you really think Argentina is a model to follow? LOL.

No Spanish country even has nukes or really notable scientists. FACT.

Nope,not half-Bolivian or Dominican...not even close. 100% Iberian peninsula and according to my DNA test...60% iberian, with a smattering of German, French and English. So, wrong again. You're wasting my time and everyone else's here.

Post: #68

(08-28-2016 02:32 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 02:17 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 02:13 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:58 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:51 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Reason I compare you with a Femen is, you do talk, word for word, like a Femen (quoting you, or is it Soros?: "the Catholic Church abducted children and MURDERED many, many people. As an institution, no other has done more damage to freedom and prosperity like the Roman Catholic Church "), on the Catholic church, but also on the "cruel, macho" corrida, "fascist" Rajoy, etc...

Now, back to your explanation: "So if a femen says 2+2 = 4 I have to automatically go ahead and say no, it's 5!".

Problem is, the Femen do NOT say 2+2 = 4, they say 2+2 = minus 8, and you repeat their twisted maths.

So, well, in the US they have a saying, If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck, so applying it to you: quacking like a Femen, you probably are (a sympathizer).

And now we know that you actually have Spanish roots! The plot thickens! Self-hatred in any case is very common in leftists. It's even at the core of their personality. Sad. Be proud, hombre, having Spanish blood, it's having the blood of fearless conquerors, of the heroes of Americas and the reconquista. Shed your MSM-induced shame of the greatness of your people. Shout Santiago, feel the pride of being a Spaniard!

How many times do I have to say I DO NOT watch or accept what the "msm" says? You are so tedious to deal with because you just keep repeating the same bs over and over again to see if somehow it will stick and you change my mind. It's not going to happen, you don't know Spain, you probably, MOST LIKELY don't have business experience here...and as for the self-hate...ON THE CONTRARY! Actually, it is most Spaniards who say I should NOT be proud of any heritage and instead embrace more the USA! So you see again what you are saying is just crap and you are making insane assumptions.

With regard to the Catholic Church, any serious historian will say the same. Catholic Church has been a negative force in the world, not anything positive.

By the way, the colonization of the Americas by Spain is nothing to be proud about. They were a disaster...and still are. How can anyone be proud of creating third world countries? Believe me, I used to put the Spanish flag and it was actually Spanish people who told me not to...that it didn't make sense for an "americano" to do that...so whatever. Spanish people DO NOT accept me as Spanish anyway so why bother? I learned that in the end, you really are from where you are respected and accepted as an equal or at least, left alone.

And no, I am not going to be shouting "Santiago" any time soon. I don't know if you are a troll or just simply trying to annoy me...but you really sound ridiculous. If any Spaniard did that they'd be the laugh of the town...and with good reason. What century are you living in? With that kind of attitude, of course you definitely are NOT going to be picking up women any time soon. Youd' scare them away with all that nonsense.

No hope for you son of Soros.

And by the way, very strange Spanish people you met along your way, never experienced someone with that amount of self hatred that you speak about, maybe you have been dealing all along with "gente muy rara", seems like a kind of talk that comes from Madrid feminist circles.

Nope....think more business classes. I dont associate with feminist circles...so wrong again Sherlock. Most "respectable" business people in Spain do NOT carry the flag with pride and try to act as cosmopolitan as possible. Ask any English teacher in Madrid and see what they say about company classes. Of course trying to be cosmopolitan and BEING cosmopolitan are two different things.

Again your making misconceptions. Not carrying the flag with pride is one thing, hating the flag is another.

I do not carry the Portuguese flag with pride, nor do I have to, I like many things about my country and hate many more, my country has done nothing for me, but certainly I am not ashamed to be born in a beautiful country and be a part of a tribe that has been proven to be brave and ingenious on the course of our history.
Citing JFK "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country".

Also I thought the "respectable" business people in Spain learnt English during their formation years...

Nope...not even the President here speaks English. Spaniards are TERRIBLE at languages, so wrong again.

Anyway, your diatribe about how proud you are to be Portuguese means nothing to me. GOOD FOR YOU. Now let's move on to the important points.

Post: #69

(08-28-2016 05:16 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  I'm 100% GALICIAN + VALENCIAN/CATALAN. Probably, I'm a lot whiter than you...but then again. I didn't expect any intellectual discussion from a troll like you.

Then why are you disrespecting, and even often hating on, your own country and bloodline, mocking the (obviously glorious) history of your own people?

Hombre, your people conquered, with their bare hands and guts, entire continents, ruled half of the world, and still are the number-one touristic destination in the world (having stolen this place from terror-hit France). Shouldn't you be proud? (The Spanish people have also given some of the best artists to the world, and the best sportsmen ever, from Nadal to Iniesta to Indurain)

Post: #70

(08-28-2016 05:27 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 05:16 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  I'm 100% GALICIAN + VALENCIAN/CATALAN. Probably, I'm a lot whiter than you...but then again. I didn't expect any intellectual discussion from a troll like you.

Then why are you disrespecting, and even often hating on, your own country and bloodline, mocking the (obviously glorious) history of your own people?

Hombre, your people conquered, with their bare hands and guts, entire continents, ruled half of the world, and still are the number-one touristic destination in the world (having stolen this place from terror-hit France). Shouldn't you be proud? (The Spanish people have also given some of the best artists to the world, and the best sportsmen ever, from Nadal to Iniesta to Indurain)

I'm not mocking anything. Just stating the facts. I'm done talking to you. You waste my time. Most Spaniards don't consider us the same people. I certainly would NEVER in my life consider a Castilian to be like me, or an Andalusian. You know jack shit about this country and your posts show it. Yeah sure, pride? Spaniards are the first not to be proud of the country. You simply don't get it. Many people here do NOT FEEL or WANT to be Spanish. Have you ever been to this country? You sound really ignorant.

Post: #71

(08-28-2016 05:23 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 03:43 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:58 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  By the way, the colonization of the Americas by Spain is nothing to be proud about. They were a disaster...and still are. How can anyone be proud of creating third world countries? Believe me, I used to put the Spanish flag and it was actually Spanish people who told me not to...that it didn't make sense for an "americano" to do that...so whatever. Spanish people DO NOT accept me as Spanish anyway so why bother? I learned that in the end, you really are from where you are respected and accepted as an equal or at least, left alone.

I wanted to check whether you indeed are a leftist militant, and probably a SJW, Baldrich, so, all I had to do is drop a line about the (Spanish) Heroes of the Americas... and of course, you had the (leftist, SJW) reaction I expected: an immediate reaction of hatred against the "bad white Spanish men who have nothing to be proud about". Of course, the Conquistadores are profoundly hated by all leftists, for what they were: male, alpha, European, warriors, brave, fearless, adventurous, sexually active. So no wonder you loathe them.

A few things: you seem to know nothing serious about the Americas. Quoting you: "third world countries"!

Lol. Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, even Colombia, are you think third world countries!?

Far from it. Actually, the only parts of Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, and Colombia, that can be described as third-world, are those where descendants of the Spaniards (or say, Italians) are a minority. Where your Spanish ancestral blood still rules, the Americas are perfectly fine (Santiago, BsAs, Montevideo, Medellin, etc etc... you think Punta del Este and Bariloche or Vina del Mar are 3d world? lol!!)

Anyway, tell us more about your ancestry and your hatred of the Spaniards? Is it possible that you are, say, only half Spanish, and I don't know... half Bolivian? half Dominican I'd bet? Is it why you feel (rightly or not) "rejected" by the "fascist, conservative francoist" Spanish society? Why your insecurity about your Spanish roots, and this self-hatred? I bet the problem is not the "bad" Spaniards of Spain, but your own insecurity concerning your (Spanish, not-so-Spanish?) roots.

Yep, Colombia is definitely third world LOL. If you don't think so that says a lot about you, not me. Argentina...you really think Argentina is a model to follow? LOL.

No Spanish country even has nukes or really notable scientists. FACT.

So, now you're giving me lessons on Argentina

To begin with, I think, and investors are now agreeing, that Macri's Argentina has a bright future and will soon be a model and heaven... But anyway, FYI, Argentina masters nuclear technologies and has had very notable scientists. Who do you think invented the peacemaker, for example??

Post: #72

(08-28-2016 05:35 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 05:23 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 03:43 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 01:58 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  By the way, the colonization of the Americas by Spain is nothing to be proud about. They were a disaster...and still are. How can anyone be proud of creating third world countries? Believe me, I used to put the Spanish flag and it was actually Spanish people who told me not to...that it didn't make sense for an "americano" to do that...so whatever. Spanish people DO NOT accept me as Spanish anyway so why bother? I learned that in the end, you really are from where you are respected and accepted as an equal or at least, left alone.

I wanted to check whether you indeed are a leftist militant, and probably a SJW, Baldrich, so, all I had to do is drop a line about the (Spanish) Heroes of the Americas... and of course, you had the (leftist, SJW) reaction I expected: an immediate reaction of hatred against the "bad white Spanish men who have nothing to be proud about". Of course, the Conquistadores are profoundly hated by all leftists, for what they were: male, alpha, European, warriors, brave, fearless, adventurous, sexually active. So no wonder you loathe them.

A few things: you seem to know nothing serious about the Americas. Quoting you: "third world countries"!

Lol. Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, even Colombia, are you think third world countries!?

Far from it. Actually, the only parts of Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, and Colombia, that can be described as third-world, are those where descendants of the Spaniards (or say, Italians) are a minority. Where your Spanish ancestral blood still rules, the Americas are perfectly fine (Santiago, BsAs, Montevideo, Medellin, etc etc... you think Punta del Este and Bariloche or Vina del Mar are 3d world? lol!!)

Anyway, tell us more about your ancestry and your hatred of the Spaniards? Is it possible that you are, say, only half Spanish, and I don't know... half Bolivian? half Dominican I'd bet? Is it why you feel (rightly or not) "rejected" by the "fascist, conservative francoist" Spanish society? Why your insecurity about your Spanish roots, and this self-hatred? I bet the problem is not the "bad" Spaniards of Spain, but your own insecurity concerning your (Spanish, not-so-Spanish?) roots.

Yep, Colombia is definitely third world LOL. If you don't think so that says a lot about you, not me. Argentina...you really think Argentina is a model to follow? LOL.

No Spanish country even has nukes or really notable scientists. FACT.

So, now you're giving me lessons on Argentina

To begin with, I think, and investors are now agreeing, that Macri's Argentina has a bright future and will soon be a model and heaven... But anyway, FYI, Argentina masters nuclear technologies and has had very notable scientists. Who do you think invented the peacemaker, for example??

There are many other places to invest. Just because a country is good for investment does NOT mean it is not third world. As for the rest of your comment, come talk to me when you grow up. When Argentina can compare to India (nuclear wise), come talk to me. The fact is that NO Spanish speaking country contributes much benefit to the world.

Post: #73

@Baldrich: I dont know your experience in Spain, i cant. But as an argentinian with spanish grandparents, Spain was more than welcoming to me, and no one treated me as a foreign. In the words of a security guard i meet in the Royal Museum in Madrid: "You guys, and the uruguayans are like the cousins you see often. The chileneans so-so. The rest are foreigns to us". So maybe you have spanish ancetry and talk with some castizo accents, but you are from the USA and the habits and mannerisms are notorious on you. Maybe is that why you are "El Americano".

Post: #74

(08-28-2016 05:31 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 05:27 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2016 05:16 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  I'm 100% GALICIAN + VALENCIAN/CATALAN. Probably, I'm a lot whiter than you...but then again. I didn't expect any intellectual discussion from a troll like you.

Then why are you disrespecting, and even often hating on, your own country and bloodline, mocking the (obviously glorious) history of your own people?

Hombre, your people conquered, with their bare hands and guts, entire continents, ruled half of the world, and still are the number-one touristic destination in the world (having stolen this place from terror-hit France). Shouldn't you be proud? (The Spanish people have also given some of the best artists to the world, and the best sportsmen ever, from Nadal to Iniesta to Indurain)

I'm not mocking anything. Just stating the facts. I'm done talking to you. You waste my time. Most Spaniards don't consider us the same people. I certainly would NEVER in my life consider a Castilian to be like me, or an Andalusian. You know jack shit about this country and your posts show it. Yeah sure, pride? Spaniards are the first not to be proud of the country. You simply don't get it. Many people here do NOT FEEL or WANT to be Spanish. Have you ever been to this country? You sound really ignorant.

Have you ever been to this country? Dude, I own property in Spain, have been countless times to Spain, and quite obviously speak fluent Spanish... Spaniards whom I know, are proud of Spain and their history. Obviously you frequent mostly self-hating and whining leftist Spaniards, whereas I frequent dignified "right-wing" Spaniards, that explains the discrepancy here.

Also, you should note the fact that calling other members "Bitch", as you did, is against forum's rules, and you've been suspended, already, in the past for breaking this very rule... just saying, parce, just saying... you might want to show some respect to the forum rules.

Post: #75

(08-28-2016 05:41 PM)Mekorig Wrote:  @Baldrich: I dont know your experience in Spain, i cant. But as an argentinian with spanish grandparents, Spain was more than welcoming to me, and no one treated me as a foreign. In the words of a security guard i meet in the Royal Museum in Madrid: "You guys, and the uruguayans are like the cousins you see often. The chileneans so-so. The rest are foreigns to us". So maybe you have spanish ancetry and talk with some castizo accents, but you are from the USA and the habits and mannerisms are notorious on you. Maybe is that why you are "El Americano".

Nope. In Spain my mannerisms are completely Spanish...nobody would ever dream of thinking I was born in the US. So, wrong. Argentinians here are not always welcome. I've heard comments from security guards calling your people liars and thieves. In fact when I moved to Spain back in 2003 one of the first things I was told by a doorman in my building in Madrid was to be "careful with South Americans, especially Ecuadorians and "putos argentinos de mierda" was his exact quote. So I'm sorry if I don't accept your experience as universal. Spanish people will openly discriminate and talk bad about other nationalities. Sometimes they don't do it to your face, but believe me, you are still "el argentino". Your grandparents are from Spain, my PARENTS are from Spain so I have a more direct connection and see how many of them think.